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Title: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: Hazyel on April 02, 2016, 01:26:59 PM
My computer is not safe at all. For wallet, i use coinbase. I only access it with a bootable USB stick (Ubuntu inside)
I'm yet to invest serious money on Bitcoin.
Any advice?


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: --Encrypted-- on April 02, 2016, 01:35:14 PM
not safe? then make it safe. and/or use hardware wallets like trezor. most hardware wallets are cheap and very easy to use.


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: Amph on April 02, 2016, 02:11:28 PM
use antivirus and antirootkit plus keystroke encryption, plus don't download random exe from the web, and you should be pretty safe


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: Mike8 on April 02, 2016, 02:21:28 PM
My computer is not safe at all. For wallet, i use coinbase. I only access it with a bootable USB stick (Ubuntu inside)
I'm yet to invest serious money on Bitcoin.
Any advice?

If your bitcoin will only sit, even paper wallets are ok.
Else hardware wallet wtg


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: bitdumper on April 02, 2016, 02:28:53 PM
Use Brainwallet , Paper wallet .
Be offline in infected computer while using  Brainwallet.
Use phrase that is uncommon and random.
Be aware of keyloggers.


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: Hazyel on April 02, 2016, 03:02:35 PM
I don't think i can ever trust a hardware wallet.
AntiVirus only makes you feel safe. There is no such thing as effective antivirus.

I will see how paper wallets works.
Thanks guys!


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: twister on April 02, 2016, 03:14:48 PM
My computer is not safe at all. For wallet, i use coinbase. I only access it with a bootable USB stick (Ubuntu inside)
I'm yet to invest serious money on Bitcoin.
Any advice?

Use Copay wallet, make 2of2 wallet, put one on your desktop, other on your phone and now even if your computer is infected, no hacker will be able to spend your coins without the other key, which is on your phone.

Or you can use Electrum cold storage on an air-gapped OS but it'll require some work making it safely and then you'd need to keep transferring your transactions back and forth to sign and spend them.


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: nejibens on April 02, 2016, 03:19:50 PM
My computer is not safe at all. For wallet, i use coinbase. I only access it with a bootable USB stick (Ubuntu inside)
I'm yet to invest serious money on Bitcoin.
Any advice?

Use the anti virus and scan your PC and delete all the malwares from your computer before accessing the wallet


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: Velkro on April 02, 2016, 03:47:14 PM
If you don't have knowledge about computer security your best bet is to invest in hardware wallet.


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: DodoB on April 02, 2016, 03:50:15 PM
Install a good anti virus to keep your computer safe,make sure you have no trojans and such,then use a solid wallet like MultiBit.


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: Herbert2020 on April 02, 2016, 05:09:09 PM
you are already using Ubuntu on your USB stick then why not completely switching to it as your installed OS, it is more secure than windows and you don't have to worry about antivirus if you are familiar with linux.


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: ElMoIsEviL on April 02, 2016, 05:56:05 PM
Maybe OP like to keep windows as his main operating system but OP you can still install linux on your hardisk as dual boot operatin system that is even quicker then the usb booting and it only takes like 40 GB


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: Xexen4 on April 02, 2016, 06:03:52 PM
safety depends more factors. the safest pc is offline soo if you are paranoid for security store your coins on paper wallet on safebox


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: leowonderful on April 02, 2016, 06:58:20 PM
safety depends more factors. the safest pc is offline soo if you are paranoid for security store your coins on paper wallet on safebox
No wallet is completely safe; if you are transferring bitcoin a transaction will be posted on the blockchain no matter what eventually. paper wallets are an economical way to store bitcoin safely, and you can easily access the keys for it in case it gets lost or burned, etc. hardware wallets are the safest and cost a lot, but if you plan on storing a large amount of bitcoin, for safety i would buy a hardware wallet.


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: defcon23 on April 02, 2016, 10:24:13 PM
My computer is not safe at all. For wallet, i use coinbase. I only access it with a bootable USB stick (Ubuntu inside)
I'm yet to invest serious money on Bitcoin.
Any advice?
if you haven(t a safe computer, i suggest you to use trezor hardware.. but the best thing to do , is : format your computer & install with a decent OS like ubuntu ..  ;)


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: btcbumpbot on April 03, 2016, 01:17:31 AM
I would buy trezor and definitely made my computer safe as was mentioned above.


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: Hazyel on April 03, 2016, 03:35:21 AM
Wallet paper it is then.

I wish i could leave windows behind me.
Switch completely is not ideal, windows have too many good softwares.
Linux and windows Partitions in the same HD will cause problems "eventually".
In time i will get myself a new computer. For now, another hd will do.

Thanks guys!


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: pooya87 on April 03, 2016, 04:00:28 AM
I would buy trezor and definitely made my computer safe as was mentioned above.

not all of us like paying ~100 dollars for a hardware wallet to keep our bitcoins, a wallet that can be created for free and secure. trezor is for those who have invested thousands of dollars in bitcoin and have little computer knowledge.


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: Pursuer on April 03, 2016, 06:12:21 AM
... with a bootable USB stick (Ubuntu inside)....

you are halfway to safety already.
do some changes to that USB stick OS:
- add persistent space to the Ubuntu inside
- change the USB disk's format to Linux specific so than windows can't recognize it.
- cut the internet by disabling network and don't allow it to connect to internet
- install a wallet that lets you easily set up cold storage an still use by signing and then broadcasting tx (I know Armory (full node) and Electrum (SPV) that does this)
- set password for the whole OS log in and also for the wallet and encrypt the folder it is on
- you can do many different types of encryptions and password setting if you like to be safer.

you can find how to do each of these steps by googling them, there are nothing complicated about them.


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: Avirunes on April 03, 2016, 06:28:05 AM
not safe? then make it safe. and/or use hardware wallets like trezor. most hardware wallets are cheap and very easy to use.

This is best of all. Also i think bootable Ubuntu disk is also good for the moment.

I don't think antivirus will work most of the time specially when virus defenitions are out of date.Moreover even if it is updated to the latest definitions ,antivirus might not be able to check a new virus or malware properly as it may not be in their definitions,but yeah thats rare case as antivirus throws update whenever a new virus or malware is spotted .


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: defcon23 on April 03, 2016, 08:06:58 AM
I would buy trezor and definitely made my computer safe as was mentioned above.

not all of us like paying ~100 dollars for a hardware wallet to keep our bitcoins, a wallet that can be created for free and secure. trezor is for those who have invested thousands of dollars in bitcoin and have little computer knowledge.
you are wrong dude..  concerning hardware wallets, trezor isn't the only solution: ledger wallet are pretty safe too, and for a ridiculous coast of 34 euros... so , as you can see...  8)

https://www.ledgerwallet.com/products/1-ledger-nano (https://www.ledgerwallet.com/products/1-ledger-nano)

and concerning this special part of your post :
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trezor is for those who have invested thousands of dollars in bitcoin and have little computer knowledge.
you're COMPLETLY wrong ! everybody can judge..  why "using by people with little computer knowedge"  ??  how can you say that? on what are you based your opinion? just for curiosity.. lol


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: defined on April 04, 2016, 12:51:13 PM
Wallet paper it is then.
You still need a safe computer to transfer funds.

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I wish i could leave windows behind me.
Why do you need windows?

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Linux and windows Partitions in the same HD will cause problems "eventually".
Dual boot is possible and should not cause problems unless a virus destroys all partitions. For that you make backups.


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: defcon23 on April 04, 2016, 03:04:14 PM
Wallet paper it is then.
You still need a safe computer to transfer funds.

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I wish i could leave windows behind me.
Why do you need windows?

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Linux and windows Partitions in the same HD will cause problems "eventually".
Dual boot is possible and should not cause problems unless a virus destroys all partitions. For that you make backups.
i confirm : you can use windows & linux on the same computer in dual boot : no problem;

however, if you use windows , its better to run your linux os in a virtual machine.  8)


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: Amph on April 05, 2016, 06:17:46 AM
Wallet paper it is then.
You still need a safe computer to transfer funds.

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I wish i could leave windows behind me.
Why do you need windows?

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Linux and windows Partitions in the same HD will cause problems "eventually".
Dual boot is possible and should not cause problems unless a virus destroys all partitions. For that you make backups.
i confirm : you can use windows & linux on the same computer in dual boot : no problem;

however, if you use windows , its better to run your linux os in a virtual machine.  8)

if the host is infected your screwed, and you're not safe with dual boot, either there are some exploit to spread the infection to another partition that is using another so

the only possible way is to have two ssd, and one only active at any time, so you must un-plug the power from the other, so it's not recognized


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: defined on April 05, 2016, 09:07:45 AM
if the host is infected your screwed, and you're not safe with dual boot, either there are some exploit to spread the infection to another partition that is using another so

the only possible way is to have two ssd, and one only active at any time, so you must un-plug the power from the other, so it's not recognized
If the host is infected you should format that host. Why would you want to be using an infected computer for any tasks?


Title: Re: Wallet / unsafe computer
Post by: Amph on April 05, 2016, 02:43:48 PM
if the host is infected your screwed, and you're not safe with dual boot, either there are some exploit to spread the infection to another partition that is using another so

the only possible way is to have two ssd, and one only active at any time, so you must un-plug the power from the other, so it's not recognized
If the host is infected you should format that host. Why would you want to be using an infected computer for any tasks?

the problem is that a good infection come undetected, until it cause problem but at that point is too late already