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Title: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: Gleb Gamow on April 02, 2016, 11:15:47 PM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oink%27s_Pink_Palace
Quote Oink's Pink Palace (frequently stylized as OiNK) was a prominent BitTorrent tracker which operated from 2004 to 2007. Following a two-year investigation by the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) and the British Phonographic Industry (BPI), the site was shut down on 23 October 2007, by British and Dutch police agencies. These music industry organisations described OiNK as an "online pirate pre-release music club", whereas former users described it as one of the world's largest and most meticulously maintained online music repositories. About a month before the shut-down, music magazine Blender elected OiNK's creator, British software engineer Alan Ellis, to their The Powergeek 25 — the Most Influential People in Online Music list. Alan Ellis was tried for conspiracy to defraud at Teesside Crown court, the first person in the UK to be prosecuted for illegal file-sharing, and found not guilty on 15 January 2010. Quote Web address OiNK.cd or OiNK.me.uk Slogan Because 'moo' just doesn't sound right. Type of site Private BitTorrent tracker Registration Free, Invitation only Owner Alan Ellis (aka Oink) Created by Oink (Modified TBSource) Launched 30 May 2004[1] Revenue Voluntary donations Current status Tracker forcibly shut down https://torrentfreak.com/oink-admin-found-not-guilty-walks-free-100115/ Quote “21 million downloads. 600,000-plus albums. £300,000. This was a cash cow, it was perfectly designed to profit him and it was as dishonest as the day is long,” said Makepeace. (apologize for the cache, otherwise a PDF download): http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GLAhO7IReggJ:www.business.gov.au/grants-and-assistance/Collaboration/CRC/CRC%2520Submissions/Panopticrypt%2520Pty%2520Ltd.docx+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us Quote Focus on CRC’s in which the industry can adopt the research outcomes. No public good CRC’s No Researcher control Build on existing research both domestically and internationally not on new science Increase funding to CRC’s to increase critical mass Reduce centre management costs. Too much of CRC grant goes towards CRC management Ensure there is a path to market Fund bids Alan Ellis The relevant part is the author's name, Alan Ellis. The question is who owns Panopticrypt Pty Ltd. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Steven_Wright Quote Wright was the CEO of the technology firm Hotwire Preemptive Intelligence Group (Hotwire PE), which planned to launch Denariuz Bank, the world's first Bitcoin-based bank, though it encountered regulatory difficulties with the Australian Tax Office and failed in 2014. Wright is the founder of cryptocurrency company DeMorgan Ltd., which received $54 million in tax incentives via AusIndustry. He is also the founder of the cybersecurity and computer forensics company Panopticrypt Pty Ltd. Is it possible that that's why Alan Ellis had to keep his identity a secret because he was under investigation at the time? Also, could Alan have borrowed the 21 million download figure for the maximum number of bitcoins that would eventually be created? Full disclosure: I'm currently under the weather and have been known in the past to post some crazy shit even when I'm not sick. Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: korsican-man on April 02, 2016, 11:44:27 PM The right answer is no one knows. Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: Gleb Gamow on April 03, 2016, 12:06:39 AM The right answer is no one knows. Interesting first post, bud. Are you Alan Ellis? Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: Gyrsur on April 03, 2016, 12:15:58 AM The right answer is no one knows. Interesting first post, bud. Are you Alan Ellis? NO, the force tells me that Alan Ellis isn't satoshi. Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: BARR_Official on April 03, 2016, 12:23:37 AM The right answer is no one knows. - Newbie account, but already claims to know all about satoshi - Clearly hiding secret information - He says that no one knows, but obviously satoshi knows, which means that he is speaking for satoshi - His name is korsican-man, and Alan Ellis has been spotted on the island of Corsica - Satoshi has posted in this topic http://www.1rtr.net/regtl/corsica1.jpg picture of Alan Ellis on Corsica Quote Alan Ellis in Corsica. During an adventure training “expedition” to canoe around the island. In the background are Marty Lawson, Kev Haque, Ned Kelly Oggy Saunders and Kev Warcup http://www.1rtr.net/images1.html Ned "Oggy" Saunders, abbreviated as N.S. = Nick Szabo Kev Warcup = Wei Dai (Kev and Dai both have 3 letters, Wei and Warcup both begin with W, a letter that validates in Base58 Bitcoin addresses) Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: bitkilo on April 03, 2016, 12:37:42 AM I'd say your grasping at straws on this one Gleb.
Your a good investigator but I this just seems like such a long shot. Keep it up, you will find him/her/them one day, maybe. Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: lolgato1 on April 03, 2016, 12:40:52 AM I wouldn't be lives anyone's satoshi nakamoto unless they sign from an old bitcoin address. If they we're hacked/lost then I won't believe until they provide decent proof. So I highly doubt that they are satoshi nakamoto
Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: Gleb Gamow on April 03, 2016, 01:03:26 AM http://niklasblog.com/?p=17471
Quote The evidence trail amounted to the easiest bust in the history of online piracy. On Tuesday, October 23, 2007, Ellis woke before dawn to prepare for another day in the IT pit at the chemical company in downtown Middlesbrough. He took a shower in his apartment’s shared bathroom, then returned to his bedroom, where his girlfriend, having spent the night, was still asleep. As he did every morning, he logged into Oink as administrator, checked the server logs, and read the overnight messages from his deputized lieutenants. Then the door slammed open and a dozen police officers swarmed into his room. All ten of Ellis’ bank accounts were frozen simultaneously. Across the country in Manchester, his father was inexplicably arrested as well, and charged with money laundering. Alan Ellis’ home computer was seized as evidence. So were the Holland servers, which contained the IP and email addresses of all 180,000 Oink members. Unlike the Pirate Bay administrators, Ellis had not planned for this contingency, and the torrents Oink served went dark. Alan Ellis decided then and there that a new money system had to be created based on his P2P music thingy where moneys would never be confiscated ever again. Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: alyssa85 on April 03, 2016, 03:07:01 AM Why does it matter who Satoshi is? Can't people respect his decision to step away from the coin and stay anonymous?
Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: Gleb Gamow on April 03, 2016, 03:21:41 AM I'd say your grasping at straws on this one Gleb. Your a good investigator but I this just seems like such a long shot. Keep it up, you will find him/her/them one day, maybe. I'll admit that it's possibly a long shot, but worthy of discussion nonetheless. Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: bitkilo on April 03, 2016, 03:30:35 AM http://niklasblog.com/?p=17471 Do you have any evidence at all that Alan decided "then and there" or ever that a new money system had to be created? Quote The evidence trail amounted to the easiest bust in the history of online piracy. On Tuesday, October 23, 2007, Ellis woke before dawn to prepare for another day in the IT pit at the chemical company in downtown Middlesbrough. He took a shower in his apartment’s shared bathroom, then returned to his bedroom, where his girlfriend, having spent the night, was still asleep. As he did every morning, he logged into Oink as administrator, checked the server logs, and read the overnight messages from his deputized lieutenants. Then the door slammed open and a dozen police officers swarmed into his room. All ten of Ellis’ bank accounts were frozen simultaneously. Across the country in Manchester, his father was inexplicably arrested as well, and charged with money laundering. Alan Ellis’ home computer was seized as evidence. So were the Holland servers, which contained the IP and email addresses of all 180,000 Oink members. Unlike the Pirate Bay administrators, Ellis had not planned for this contingency, and the torrents Oink served went dark. Alan Ellis decided then and there that a new money system had to be created based on his P2P music thingy where moneys would never be confiscated ever again. Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: X-ray on April 03, 2016, 04:02:19 AM Why does it matter who Satoshi is? Can't people respect his decision to step away from the coin and stay anonymous? no rules against it,if satoshi stay anonymous it's good,and if satoshi had been revealed,it's just happen,it'll give an affect to the market whether the price go down or rising who know,and why we're using bitcoin when we don't know the creator?Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: calkob on April 03, 2016, 02:45:46 PM I dont believe he is, and to be honest i would rather that the creator is never found. It could take attention away from bitcoin and even destroy it if it came out that the creator was a criminal or even worse a pedo or sumthin...... :-\
i am putting my money on it being the craig wright, but as i said i would rather not know. Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: lexuz on April 03, 2016, 03:17:54 PM I dont believe he is, and to be honest i would rather that the creator is never found. It could take attention away from bitcoin and even destroy it if it came out that the creator was a criminal or even worse a pedo or sumthin...... :-\ positive agree before he released bitcoin go to public i think he already keeping safe all information about him. i am putting my money on it being the craig wright, but as i said i would rather not know. all news tell the creator of bitcoin has been found but in fact "the creator of bitcoin is never be found" Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: ~Bitcoin~ on April 03, 2016, 03:48:42 PM Satoshi is most brilliant minded person i have seen till now so if anybody who can find him will take that position. So for this, its no he is not.
Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: quentincole32 on April 03, 2016, 05:20:38 PM Quote Alan Ellis is a Nationally Recognized Federal Criminal Defense Attorney in San Francisco and New York. searched on google and not found any related allan with bitcoin,so i think satoshi still mysterious and untraceable.browsing the picture and not found one person exactly,just some people with young age appear on my search engine site. Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: Gyrsur on April 03, 2016, 05:53:00 PM satoshi was one of the cypherpunks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk) probably at least 3 of them were involved:
Satoshi Nakamoto (was very familiar with HashCash and chose it as the basis of BitCoin) Hal Finney (early development partner of SN) Nick Szabo (text analysis of Bitcoin white paper leads to him, probably rewrote the white paper because the first published version was different and doesn't exist anymore) Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: Denker on April 03, 2016, 07:48:02 PM To be honest I don't give damn who Satoshi is or was.
He/they was/were the creator of that beautiful technology and now others continue to build it. That's all what counts, ongoing development and progress. Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: ajareselde on April 03, 2016, 08:15:16 PM Every now and then there's a thread about possible Satoshi, and my question is always the same ; what does it matter ?
Even if u find him(or her, you never know :) ) - what then ? It's obvious that the only thing creator wants is not to be known, so i think we should respect that. Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: 7788bitcoin on April 04, 2016, 01:14:29 AM Sounds like we have another candidate for Satoshi's real identity.
Maybe all these people are part of the group called Satoshi Nakamoto? They are all Satoshis. Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: Cateciva on April 04, 2016, 01:26:21 AM He's anonymous so I don't think it matters.
Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: CiaraB on April 04, 2016, 01:45:51 AM Sounds like we have another candidate for Satoshi's real identity. Maybe all these people are part of the group called Satoshi Nakamoto? They are all Satoshis. My guess would be Satoshi Nakamoto is actually a group of people. I find it hard to believe that one man came up with bitcoin. Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: Cashew on April 04, 2016, 04:25:42 AM Allan Ellis isn't Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi is a genius. He is making funny of you all that are searching him in computer-area most skilled men while he's either a 13 years old girl, God or a an A.I. from the future to prevent the extinction of the mankind !
Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: VPScreator on April 04, 2016, 05:18:15 AM why is everyone so curious to about nakamoto, guys better let it be secret
Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: Kakmakr on April 04, 2016, 05:37:10 AM I still say, it was not one person. If that theory is true, Alan Ellis could have been one of them and he might have suggested a decentralized option and a 21 000 000 coin cap. I also think Nick Szabo is also a member of that group of brilliant people. ^smile^
Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: Digital_Lord on April 04, 2016, 06:12:38 AM I just want to say , no one can say who is satoshi nakomoto. he is 100% anonymous. we even don't know that he is still alive or not.
and Alan Ellis is not satoshi nakamoto. Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: ctlaltdefeat on April 04, 2016, 06:33:30 AM To be honest I don't give damn who Satoshi is or was. i believe many peoples are same with you,just because satoshi have so long time become unclear mystery,we tired to follow and reveal who really he/she/they were.i'm also one of that people who dont care anymore who Satosh Nakamoto is,and i just say thank to him/them that have create great crypto currency.He/they was/were the creator of that beautiful technology and now others continue to build it. That's all what counts, ongoing development and progress. Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: simon66 on April 05, 2016, 01:52:39 AM I know who satoshi is, ran into him at 7/11, but I'm not tellin..
Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: Gleb Gamow on April 05, 2016, 01:54:14 AM I dont believe he is, and to be honest i would rather that the creator is never found. It could take attention away from bitcoin and even destroy it if it came out that the creator was a criminal or even worse a pedo or sumthin...... :-\ i am putting my money on it being the craig wright, but as i said i would rather not know. Alan and Craig worked together. Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: nuevo on April 05, 2016, 02:06:04 AM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oink%27s_Pink_Palace Quote Oink's Pink Palace (frequently stylized as OiNK) was a prominent BitTorrent tracker which operated from 2004 to 2007. Following a two-year investigation by the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) and the British Phonographic Industry (BPI), the site was shut down on 23 October 2007, by British and Dutch police agencies. These music industry organisations described OiNK as an "online pirate pre-release music club", whereas former users described it as one of the world's largest and most meticulously maintained online music repositories. About a month before the shut-down, music magazine Blender elected OiNK's creator, British software engineer Alan Ellis, to their The Powergeek 25 — the Most Influential People in Online Music list. Alan Ellis was tried for conspiracy to defraud at Teesside Crown court, the first person in the UK to be prosecuted for illegal file-sharing, and found not guilty on 15 January 2010. Quote Web address OiNK.cd or OiNK.me.uk Slogan Because 'moo' just doesn't sound right. Type of site Private BitTorrent tracker Registration Free, Invitation only Owner Alan Ellis (aka Oink) Created by Oink (Modified TBSource) Launched 30 May 2004[1] Revenue Voluntary donations Current status Tracker forcibly shut down https://torrentfreak.com/oink-admin-found-not-guilty-walks-free-100115/ Quote “21 million downloads. 600,000-plus albums. £300,000. This was a cash cow, it was perfectly designed to profit him and it was as dishonest as the day is long,” said Makepeace. (apologize for the cache, otherwise a PDF download): http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GLAhO7IReggJ:www.business.gov.au/grants-and-assistance/Collaboration/CRC/CRC%2520Submissions/Panopticrypt%2520Pty%2520Ltd.docx+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us Quote Focus on CRC’s in which the industry can adopt the research outcomes. No public good CRC’s No Researcher control Build on existing research both domestically and internationally not on new science Increase funding to CRC’s to increase critical mass Reduce centre management costs. Too much of CRC grant goes towards CRC management Ensure there is a path to market Fund bids Alan Ellis The relevant part is the author's name, Alan Ellis. The question is who owns Panopticrypt Pty Ltd. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Steven_Wright Quote Wright was the CEO of the technology firm Hotwire Preemptive Intelligence Group (Hotwire PE), which planned to launch Denariuz Bank, the world's first Bitcoin-based bank, though it encountered regulatory difficulties with the Australian Tax Office and failed in 2014. Wright is the founder of cryptocurrency company DeMorgan Ltd., which received $54 million in tax incentives via AusIndustry. He is also the founder of the cybersecurity and computer forensics company Panopticrypt Pty Ltd. Is it possible that that's why Alan Ellis had to keep his identity a secret because he was under investigation at the time? Also, could Alan have borrowed the 21 million download figure for the maximum number of bitcoins that would eventually be created? Full disclosure: I'm currently under the weather and have been known in the past to post some crazy shit even when I'm not sick. I think you're right... not about this but about a lot of other things. Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: PakistanHockeyfan on April 05, 2016, 02:13:35 AM why is everyone so curious to about nakamoto, guys better let it be secret The whole point behind Bitcoin is to keep occupants anonymous anyway. Why would anyone willingly attempt to go against that aspect by attempting to discover the psuedo behind the person who started it all? Where is the respect for the head founder? Title: Re: Is Alan Ellis Bitcoin's Satoshi Nakamoto? Post by: BigBos on April 05, 2016, 02:18:20 AM I do not think so. I think like that because no one ever knows who it is Satoshi Nakamoto, even the big players of bitcoin. I think Satoshi Nakamoto was someone very mysterious
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