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Ethereum IPO "Project" will soon go back to sub 1 dollar price, because there's not enough fools to maintain the price.
Whales have to dump before buywalls are being deleted causing a permanent downtrend similar to other failed altcoins.

This means ETH is dead.

BTC Soon Back To Sub 1 Dollar

/end the FUD

What is the basis of your forecast at $ 1 per Etner?
I agree only one that at the moment the price of "inflated".

&Too many hungry miners Need to sell

I am a miner. I will not sell below $10. In fact, I am also buying. The price will be $50 later this year.

Maybe it's just dump season for ETH but I don't think a market/coin like ETH will die that easily
I mean, look at LTC and DOGE, they have declined but for some reason they still survive

I am still not convinced by the project ETHEREUM but I think it would be good if there was a real development really cool for the community, where they say this is a business ponzi scheme but I have not been in it

note: ETHEREUM can never replace bitcoin

Ethereum soon back to $100.  Back to the Future.  Welcome to Quake Live.  Woohoo -  Excellent!

~CfA~

Every altcoin has same story
At launch : what a coin, the price goes up and up and up
Few months later : whales 🐳 need to get out so sell wall appears
The price comes down and we start with a new altcoin.
Remembered ripple it has the same story.

No body know about future and there is no Boby know price of ethereum even if for 1 minute later

We do not know the price of a coin in a specific time, but we will know the price range. The Ethereum price will be around 0.02 to 0.03 in the next few days.

I can see eth going back to the $0.50 range. Cant wait to see the reaction of the eth can do anything club when this happens. Nothing good ever comes out of investing in a IPO and the smart investors know this.

A hard down spike to $0.50 range is in the cards.
BTC went $1200 to $150, and ETH is going to run an even more wild version of the same pattern.

Being fair the dust will likely settle around $250M in market cap, but the noobies will refuse to be wrong, so we're going to hear about $9, $7, $5, $3 this is the absolute bottom then too the MOON! $125 ETH for months ... "ether" ... kids look up the definition ... some in the BTC camp are still high off 2013 fumes and buying the idea of $12500, $125k, $million/per bitcoin hype.

 
If the Ethereum price go down to $3 or less, I will try my best to buy as many as I can. The price could be $125 when PoS starts.

am i missing some zillion dollar eth/fiat exchange?
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/#markets

ETH has modest fiat exchange $2m/day and on a hot day at best

$9,875,000,000
that is the cap ETH needs to raise to hit $125

last chance to bail above $9 is this week kidds
;)

In your wildest fantasies

If the price drops below $9, it will be a very brief period, maybe just a few weeks. Then it will go back up.

Eth is the answer

and what will you do if they did not include Pos? After all, they themselves can not yet 100% safe to say about it.
This is just a plan ....

and what if they'll do it?

It will be interesting to see what the ATH of 2016 is going to be. The ETH price has been pretty stable at the $10-11 range for a while now.

At least the prices will hold in a certain range.
Is it bad?

I don't expect it to go much higher. We have had quite a good run.
It is going to be a slow grind downwards from now on.

The problem is that nobody knows the question.

It's a solution looking for a problem.

Whatever happens, you can either go long or short. The opportunity is always there.

How did you get that whale icon in there???

I agree with your points, and they've been proven over and over again and it's getting tedious.

After Ethereum consolidates around the 0.025 range for a few more weeks, it is time to go long from there.

It is not possible for the Ethereum price to be sub $1 in the future unless the Ethereum dies without development.

On the non-logarithm scaled chart, Ethereum broke down through the February pump support, and the next support is from the January support line which currently extends to about 0.0164 BTC ≈ $7:

https://dc-charts.com/chart_eth.php?ex=16&cu=0&tz=6&ar=1

On the logarithm scaled chart, Ethereum broken down through all support lines and there is no support.

Agreed. Ethereum is still in development now. With a lot of budget and the devs still active, Ethereum will not in sub $1.

The Etheruem price has dropped to $8. It is still in the downward channel. It could be under $10 for some time.

i think it is very possible that ETH will go down to $1 but i don't think it is going to happen soon, there is still a lot of pump going on in ETH and since it had a big market cap it take time to all those investors completely get out, but it going to happen

there's no "lot of pump" going on, it's gonna go sub 1 dollar like many people who believers call fudders, warned.

I think saying that ETH will go sub $1 soon are stretching it to be honest. that's 0.003BTC per ETH from 0.017BTC. it probably won't go that far. not soon anyway.

If Ethereum is a scam, the price will go to $0. But it is being developed actively, its price will go higher.

ether went up too fast and now needs time to stabilise. I think ether is going back to the $1 range or even less. For beta software it is extremely overvalued.

I think not ... I think the price will first at 7 $, and as soon as it goes on in the development, then the price rise again

If the price of Ethereum consolidates around $7 for the next 6 months, it is good for the price in the future.

Yes you are right, today we know the price range of ethereum, and we can buy on 0.02BTC then sell on 0.03BTC, that is simple way to trade  ethereum. Buy on support and sell on resistance.

The Etherem price is in a small range recently. But it might break up due to good news or down due to bad news.

I think this is almost the same with bitcoin story in the past. people also say that bitcoin prices will drop to a lower price, and vilify bitcoin. eth in my opinion is a good coin, maybe someday the price will compete with bitcoin, and I'm sure the price will not be $ 5

There are few things I am confident of when it comes to crypto, but Eth not reaching $50 this year is one of them.

Its pointless to make predictions like this, especially since the price is also somewhat tied to Bitcoin.

For the short term, I think its a good place for a short. I had expected ETH to rebound significantly but it has failed to do so far.

I'm buying for 5 cent in december 2017.
 ;)

Depens on what Vitalik still has in store... Any big announcements could push the price easily. As long as we cannot tell, everything's just speculation.

I think ETH has the resources to build connections among the big players, the question is if they can deliver on time (which should be possible with regard to their funds for development)...

The Ethereum projects have delayed many times. But it still deliver. So I have some confidence in it.

If the Ethereum price goes back to below $1, many people will be very said. It is the second $1billion coin.

It is doubtful it will go back to $1 anytime soon, too many miners have jumped on board with their (assumed) investments in hardware and infrastructure to simply give their Ethereum away. The cost to mine 1 ETH is approximately $1.40 based upon normal hash-rates and an electricity cost of $0.08 KWh, and this figure does not include any ROI on investments.

Based upon this and the fact that the mining difficulty is continuing to rise, I don't think will go much below $5.00, with $3.00 probably a pretty solid floor.

It's very possible but maybe not this year. The increase in supply probably will put ETH below $1 in the next couple of years.

Impossible. The ether fanboy Professional Googler AKA KeepDoing said.........well nevermind. LOL

The inflation of the supply of the new coins will be low. It will be less than single digit from next year.

I think the Ethereum price will not go below $2 again. It is lower than many people's mining cost now.

I will buy some if the price is below $5. That is lower than the mining in many parts of the world already.

i think the lowest Eth price is going to be more than $2 because it is above the pre pump pre hype price which seems like a more real price for Ethereum and then there is a chance of more pump and dumps after hitting the rock bottom because there will be more buy at that low price not here while the price is high.

It did oscillate between $1 and $0.75 for some time.
In any case, there is no sanctity to the $1 mark. It is just a round number in fiat terms.

yeah i know that. actually i double checked the price on my exchanger before posting this. that is why i said it is above the pre-pump-price.

after the dust settles the price is never going down to the last price($0.75-$1 in this case) it will become stable above that hence the $2.

although it is all speculation and all the numbers has room to wiggle!

The cost of mining is around $4 at present for many home miners. So I will buy when the price drops below $4.

You will wait a while before it goes near that. But no one can accurately predict the price of any coin. We just have to wait and see.

I think we can say that once a coin reaches this point with such traction, media attention, market cap, backing it is very unlikely to fail even if a major disaster happens like bitcoin was still alive (even though it dropped a lot) after Mt. Gox (I lost money too at that point)

well, you cannot compare any altcoin with bitcoin. they just don't fall into the same category despite the fact that they are both crypto-currencies.

but i get the point, although this "traction" you are talking about, from media and the community can only affect the price so much, then after that if there is not really anything useful with the coin and it can not move forward then it will begin dying, especially if people start losing money due to the pump and dumps.

I guess that is where things such as smart contracts such as Daohub/DigixDao play a role. I did the bitcoin/altcoin comparison because I think Eth aims to be a seperate entity in the future and exchange $ directly.

That is nice for trading if price of ethereum is fuctuatif. We can trade and make profit

The cost to mine a coin or investments in mining infrastructure will not prevent it from dropping in price. Demand is a determinant of price, and the cost to mine the coin has nothing to do with demand. If demand for the coin goes away, the price will drop, regardless of how much it costs to mine the coin.

Would you also say once a company reaches a certain threshold of value, it cannot fail either? Because that's a perfect analogy and multi-billion dollar companies going bankrupt is not an infrequent occurrence. I'm not saying Eth will fail. I'm just saying assuming it can't because of its current size is folly.

ETH will be $100 quite soon

The number of transactions on the Ethereum network continues to grow. The fundamentals of the network continue to improve, and it is seeing real, actual usage beyond just speculative trading.

Obviously the current price of Ethereum is far higher than its fundamentals would dictate, but the potential for growth on the network is still there and is slowly being realized.

If people think the hype train for Ethereum has ended, they are sorely mistaken. Right now, the network is very difficult to use and still aimed at developers. In the next release with the App store and a friendly UI that is aimed at consumers, you are going to see a massive level of hype coming.

I still think we are a year away. But good tech and even better price per ETH. It's not too late to join the ETH train.

I don't think that it will come back to $1, but there are some chances of its price decrease, but still I will say that the price will not come to $1, it will come back only to a limit of $5 and I think after that if it got some support from the public, then it will once again start to increase.

The price of Ethereum might dip to $5. But it will not decrease to 1 dollar. It will be dead before dropping to $1.

I ended up buying in right at the top of the last pump so good chance this is going to drop to a dollar soon. If i knew for sure it would go to $100 a coin i would go all in but cant say im that confident.

No ethereum is not going to dead but the actual reason for its lowering down is the halving of bitcoin, whenever the halving effects of bitcoin will continue the price of ethereum will continue to lower down and after that people will find that currency a cheapest currency to buy and hold for the future and after that people will try to increase its value.

I also bought some when the price was about $10. The price usually drop after I buy. I will buy some more if it drops further.

With the first successful DAO, and many DAO will follow. They will consume a lot of Ethereum and support its price.

But you need to be sure in which direction the price tends. Bullish or bearish. Otherwise you will not be very successfull. I personally tried to trade Ether but ROI was around 0.

Ethereum could go any direction atm...

The potential to go higher is more than to go lower. There is demand for the Etheruem in many practical usage.

Yup here's just 1 http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/deloitte-build-ethereum-based-digital-bank-new-york-citys-consensys-1557864

That is excellent news. It proves that the Ethereum can be very useful for the financial industry and beyond.

What's NPR?

It is a media organization stands for National Public Radio.

A thread designed to spread FUD is becoming a thread to hype Ethereum. That's pretty funny.  :D

It really helps a lot in the promotion of ETH whether the thread is positive or negative. Sometimes its good to have them both.

Fantastic news then. Ethereum is like the slow drip drip on the worlds conscious.

It is very amazing that Ethereum gets talked about in a national radio program. When it becomes more useful, the price will rise further.

When it becomes more useful. I'm still trying to figure out why it's any useful to begin with. (Compared to any other alt coin.)

Can't believe it's still being manipulated this high and highly...but such is crypto when whales wish to have something happen.

DAO will prob make ETH dump tho...how mcuh we'll see.

I don't think you'll see back to 350-650k range lol :(

I hope it will not happen, I am very happy to trade with ETH, it really made my benefit, but if it happens, will my stop using eth for trade purposes

Trade as in swapping out other crypto for Eth, or trade as in using Eth as a currency in transactions?

If this DAO fails, then the Ethereum price could be dumped to very low levels. But we will not know the results in several years.

Is it possible to have several independent DAO on the Etheruem network? So they can compete with each other.

I dearly hope something happens that drops it back to <1, then gets debunked as false, and it goes back up. My finances are snails, at doing large investments. I want more ether.

Still new to Eth system. What is DAO?

DAO = Decentralized Autonomous Organization.

Basically, It is a company with no head structure. So, no CEO/Board of Directors. Currently, people are funding the DAO with Ether to receive DAO tokens. With these DAO tokens, you can vote on various proposals that people put forward. The largest proposal so far seems to be Slock.It. Specifically, Slock.IT wants a proportionally amount of the Ether to fund their Slocks (Smart-Locks). You can get more information at Daohub.org. It seems that DAOs are now the new trendy things.

I guess you could say Bitcoin -> Smart Contracts -> Decentralized Apps -> Decentralized Autonomous Organizations. DAOs seem to be the new trendy thing.

The smart-contract source code for The DAO is open-source (https://github.com/slockit/dao), so I don't see why not.

Are you serious? I really don't understand why people open topic like this without giving any useful information.. Only fud!

Let's be clear, there is no difference between people that keeps saying ether will go under ground or price will skyrocket!

Give the information first advice or write your opinion next

Could we be witnessing one of the funniest continuation pattern on ethereum chart? A nice cup with handle  ;D

https://i.imgur.com/6Rqm5oy.png

The fact that we saw a decrease in ETH value since last week high on low volume could be a bullish sign.

Cup with handle is legitimate : http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:chart_analysis:chart_patterns:cup_with_handle_continuation

FUD is useful if you know how to read something useful into it. I use the level of FUD here to gauge whether or not it's time to buy.

Haha,

Is it time to buy then lol

Here's a specific description of dao:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-Rnz7TDQ2I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-Rnz7TDQ2I)

Tea cup still working

It's strong whales bots manipulation but yeah I think it'll dump more one day!!

I hear by summer it could go moon tho :(

The dumping may start probably after the DAO ICO..But I dont think it will bring down the price of ETH to 1$

The dumping might start early. The price dropped from $15 to $12 now. It might drop a bit further.

As long as it does not drop below $8, it is profitable to mine for most people. But it is much less profit.

But you need to consider the rising difficulty. The difficulty doubles every 3 months for the last few months.

DAO tokens are basically in place of a board, so it doesn't actually appear to me to be any different. There are still people voting to control it, except the "board" will be controlled by the richest people instead of people who are elected and can be replaced if they do a bad job at managing.

Good god, that didn't explain anything. Just some guy saying "real world" a bunch of times and not saying anything useful or providing any examples.

But most people do not vote. The DAO will be controlled by the shareholder who vote and there is no director.

But that's kinda my point. That system is just pay-to-play. Only the richest people will have any say, and their say will be amplified 1) because they have the most money, and 2) because if not everyone is voting, there aren't enough other people weighing in to lessen the impact of the rich folks. The "directors" then are by default the people with the most money.

The Ethereum price is still over $11 at the moment. It has dropped from around $14. It will not go to $1.

The mining cost is around $5 for many people. These are the supporters of bitcoin. The price will not drop below it.

agree,i think eth is strongly supportet and it will not make such a huge drop

If there is no big bad news relating to the Etheruem, I believe the Ethereum price will be above $10.

I remember that there was crowd fund raising of Augur, the prediction market. When will that go alive?

There is 2:14 of my life I will never get back.

Dont waste your time with that video

I think we'll see one more last spike and a very heavy dump on that one. Bearmarket after that.

I do not think so, We will see many many spikes in the future, there is good development of the Ethereum itself.

A bear market is impossible with ethereum. It's generating too much news. This dao drama is only likely to generate a lot of interest in eth

Hyperinflation will take over once everyone did buy their bag. At one point buyers run out, that's when the bloodbath happens and there will not be a recovery to old highs. Maybe you can keep the hype going for another month or two but at one point it's rolling over. Thinking 'it's going up forever' will produce a devastating loss to the person thinking that way.

That's a pretty flimsy case for never having a bear market. Lots of things generate news. News is rather worthless, buyers are what matter. Bitcoin generates far more news, but that didn't keep it from crumbling to from $200 from $1200. Only the hype about the halving has managed to bring it back to 40% of it's high point.

Yah, I think only news is not enough to drive the price higher. We need good development of the platform and many usages.

the biggest driving force that can drive the price high is hype and i believe that ethereum has exhuasted that resource enough that there is nothing left in it to push theprice up. although you never know with eth since it is being controlled by the dev team that have the largest amount.

It depends on how useful the smart contracts are - if they show potential then more investors will come in, if not then you may be right.

The Ethereum is unique due to the built in smart contract platform. If nobody uses it, the value will be zero.

Going back to 1 dollar is almost impossible when there are so many banks behind it. I feel the price will stagnant and may even go down a little.
There will be corporations using Ethereum but the supply is simply too huge for the coin to sustain such high value.

No, better than hype is utility. If the coin is useful and fulfills a market function, it will be worth more long term. Hype is temporary. Utility is forever. (Or until it's not longer useful.)

And to be clear, the hype is about Eth's utility. It's just that no one can even explain to me what the utility is. That's why I'm not taking it seriously.

The price of eth right now are still reducing and i think more traders right now are converting into bitcoin.. because of price increase.. and i think this is the beginning of the price increase for bitcoin so better to convert altcoin into bitcoin to make more profit once the price will hit 600 soon..

In March i would have said (did say), under $1 soon.

But the ETH has played its cards right, and stands to trade like the BTC bubble, so likely an instant crash to $2ish range, just a stab for those connected at the exchanges, then solid trade at $9, $7, $5, $3, $2 for +12m bear slide down ... then a new hype we hit bottom run to $5-$7 then reality slide to $2-$1 for years 2018-2020.

The charts of BTC, LTC, ETH are basically the charts of any other shit coin, inflationary gravity eventually kicks in, but they have extra long market cycles. (like 2-3years)

I have different opinion. The bitcoin chart is quite good. The price is rising after 6 months of consolidation.

The level of FUD on these forums is simplistic

The bitcoin price was pumped in 2013 by the Mt Gox willy the Robert. I think there is no such case in Ethereum.

Thats just not possible. Even in the worst scenario it will fall only to 5-7$ then Rise above 15$

I agree with this. The cost of mining for most home miners is about $5 to 8. So that could be the bottom price.

The cost of mining is rising fast. That is main because of the mining difficulty rise 100% every two months.

Markets don't work that way.
Think of the crude market. Prices dipped below cost of production for most of the suppliers.

I am sorry to say, but mayor pump was from china!
and you just need to look at Polonix and ask yourself whats are those ETH boots doing, remember mtgox debacle, pls google it if you forget and then look again @eth at polonix, know that smart contract are not used at all, ETH is heavy premined and centralized and to the math!

Sure I am not saying it going down to 1$ but it will drop and soon

Why have Ether exchange volumes fallen off the cliff in recent days? Wouldn't that usually indicate a correction is around the corner. That said, no way it goes to sub $1 imho. Maybe temporary fall to sub $10

This SOON sounds like the old Josh Garza soon. Could be a long time.

You are right. It seems the Etheruem will not drop below $1 in the next 5 years or when there is still PoW mining.

bitcoin bull market and lisk?  The price is holding up surprisingly well.

Maybe when the founders liquidate it'll drop

There is actual too much money already invested in Ethereum, why should it drop back to 1 USD? I would rather see a strong 10 USD barrier. The DAO will create a lot of down pressure for the next months.

The people who invested in the Ethereum will want the Ethereu to succeed. They will support the development.

I invest in Ethereum indirectly. I mine the Ethereum. I have spend some money in the mining equipment. So I want it to succeed.

I do the same. But I also sell some Ethereum to buy the bitcoin. I think the bitcoin could be more safe.

It is OK to sell some Etheruem to buy bitcoin as the bitcoin price will also rise. It is better not to sell Eth for fiat.

done will go eth tonight when breaking this H&S pattern. 0,01 btc down from the necklace which is around 0,00246 so target 0,00236 around

I actually think that the price of Ether is too hypervaluated, by I don't think we will see prices of 1 dollar for ether. I guess it can drop to half the price it has atm. Or I could be wrong and it can surpass the bitcoin price in a few months :P

Is anobody confident that this can happen?

You said this 2 months ago.

Now look at your predictions. ..you're a monkeys ass and should be banned from ever being allowed to post on bct.
A bunch of fat, pimple faced basement dwellers

I like to read peoples predictions. I like it even more when their talking about shit which they have no idea about and their predictions are wrong.

The line in my ETH chart seems to be pointing upward.

I set a limit order to sell some Ethereum at 0.026. It has not been hit. The price has been below it for some time.

If the Ethereum price goes back to $1, the graphics card market will be crashed. There will be 120,000 280x cards equivalent dumped.

People buying Eth don't care what it costs to mine. No one is going to bid extra dollars for something because it has a certain production price. The cost of production is not the price floor.

Its a relevant factor not a floor.

The Ethereum price dropped from $20 to $12. The difficulty of mining is till rising? Do these people have very cheap electricity?

Probably do. Didnt someone say the current mining price is sub $8 still? So even at $12 the profit is still there.

It's still profitable to mine and hodl ETH. Ethereum wasn't attacked. Gud time to buy more ETH.

The Ethereum price is rising at the moment. It seems some people still have some confidence in it. It is about $13 now.

It might drop again to $10. It depends on the implementation of the soft fork to prevent the hacker to take away stolen funds.

More than 75% of the miners want to soft fork accroding to one vote. So it could happen. but I am not sure about hard fork.

Well i am expecting for ethereum and now i am still waiting for ethereum price will crash in 1 usd..
But for now according to  price chart ethereum still fighting and i think they can recover all trust from other people..

The ETH community are pulling together and some of the smarts minds are working on a solution. It's reassuring to see and hear such community spirit.

I am very surprised. Why did not these smart guys plug the hole before the attack? There was no spirit before?

There is a fantastic community spirit. Compare that with the fractured BTC one. The hole was highlighted and a resolution was being implemented but by making all this aware the attacker decided to move first.

Because the attack was not obvious. Even after it was seen still took a couple days to fully understand.

Is the hole already plugged? Will we not have such problem when people do the DAO split again. I want the problem to be solved.

If the hacker knows a method to freeze the stolen funds was being worked on, why wouldn't he liquidate the coins as quickly as possible before that could happen?

Does it imply that the Ethereum is still quite robust, there is not many bugs in it to be exploited by the hacker?

I don't think the ETH price will crash to $1 in the near future, at the moment it is $14+ and it is going good in the most popular exchanges, we understand it was a big crash but i don't think that it will drop so much as $1, i think that it is profitable for the miners more than bitcoin sometimes.

I hope it will not go below $1. It depends on the solution of the DAO crisis and how the locked Ethereum are dealt.

'denial' is over - now is 'fear' - 'capitulation' much later. 1$ (and lower) is eventually realistic.  

$1 is equal to 0.0016BTC and it is really a small amount comparing with the price now at 0.02BTC, not even 10% of the current price. I think that the price will stay 0.015+ for a while because it is going good even though the recent 'hacks'.

No, I don't think it does. He's already completed the hack. Obviously, he knows if he holds the Eth, it will become worthless if they effectively isolate or freeze the stolen Eth. So the logical thing to do is to liquidate the holdings to either USD or btc or any other asset that can't be frozen before his stolen Eth is locked out of his control.

The price of Ethreum depends on the solution of the DAO attack. If the problem is solved satisfactory, the price will rise.

It is very difficult to be too confident on the Etheruem team now. They have a bug in the soft fork software.

Ethereum is not going back to $1. I think that Factom is to data what Ethereum is to smart contracts and the two projects will work together as Factom will be anchoring into Ethereum.

Things like this is why Ethereum is not going anywhere. We have Bitcoin for one thing then Ethereum and Factom etc for different use cases.

If the soft fork is not implemented properly, there will be a big dump of the Ethereum so after 10 days time.

I have some Ethereum. If the soft fork is implemented properly, the price will rise. I might buy more.

It all depends on the success of the soft fork now. Strange, we still do not have a version for the soft fork.

I also feel strange. We do not have the news about the soft fork. But there is dicusssion about hard fork now.

The Ethereum devs should probably pt out some information about their forks really soon, because they're destroying the value of Ethereum over this if I am reading the market correctly. It is currently sub $10, and it doesn't look like there is a lot of upwards momentum to counter the market bears right now.

The sooner they do something the better (if they haven't already), because this is just bad news on more bad news for the value of ETH.

All time low since ipo (May/APR 16) was less than $7.50.

- If Ether goes down, then the possible hacker is losing too
- The best solution is to show some respect and give those coins back -> then soft fork

If the Ethereum price drop to that level, and bounce back, that could be a good sign for the future price.

The Ethereum price is fluctuating around the $11 level at the moment. People are uncertain about the future.

I think it is better to enter the Ethereum market after the halving. If the stolen DAO is returned, it will rise.

ETH imposible down until price one dollar, except bitcoin price down , posible eth down 1dollar,
eth down 1dollar, if bitcoin down price until $300

If Ethereum drops to this level, below it at least, this will actually be a sign of extreme loss of confidence in this asset. Even from the speculative camp. It's been holding 9 with all this uncertainty, to lose two additional dollars on stale news would be surprising but not impossible. This DAO shit has shown me anything is possible  ;D Specifically if it pops back up, Id be wary of the dead cat.

Ethereum is a hedge against the bitcoin as they are different. If the eth survives, when the bitcoin down, it will up.

In your last statement, I think you are on mistake, as the fast is that, we use bitcoin for different use cases and ethereum for only one use, people invest in ethereum only to invest for future, while for bitcoin there are a number of services and a number of onlne stores providing services and products with the payment of bitcoin.

HF confirmed. So stolen ETH will now be rightfully unstolen.

Consensus vote from the ETH community.

No, I don't think so because unfortunately all these new altcoins have never had a real value behind their prices, and they have just been supported by mere speculation. So I am convinced that these same professional (and even newbies) speculators will continue supporting this devalued coin for long, despite its potential great risks involved.

the miners heart was hurd!

If the price does not drop and the difficulty does not increase, it is still profitable for most miners now.

If the hard fork is not very successful, the price will drop a lot. We hope the code to be tested properly.

That is my hope as well. But the price of Ethereum is dropping at the moment and there could be bad news.

How is it "unstolen" exactly? Is this similar to a software rollback in the blockchain somehow?

I think the "hacker" should come out and reveal himself and sue the miners who hard fork the blockchain.

i think eth will reach $100

You, sir, need help.  You won the most delusional comment of the day! CONGRATS!

The $1 mark for me seems too low. I bet the first 2 days after the hf (if it's successful) will be the best ones to buy, huge dump from the refunded eth will occur. Regarding the upcoming months I see it stabilizing at around $6.5 to $8. The competition for 2nd place behind bitcoin is too big now (lisk,waves,nem,ardor,sia,fct,steem,...) and eth got already a big hit ... it's up to the others to win the battle,not on eth anymore.

That could be true. It is better to observe now. If there is an up trend after the hard fork, then buy.

I agree with you ethereum is now going to decrease each day, and that day is not away when etherum will be at $1 , But I am still confused that at that time people will sell their coins or will buy more and will collect more and more.

When eth finally does hard fork i think we are going to lose it completely,  below 1 dollar is easy.  I don't think many people expect it to survive,  i sold out most but have a little left that i cant be bothered transferring into an exchange so i will just leave that and see what happens.

Are you guys sure about this, i mean ETH < 1$? Is something like that even possible?

Eth market cap is  $ 859,485,012 you think that will be burned by DAO, actually i think Eth will at first grove up and than mby smal dump but about 8$ not 1,
Weak hands was leave already

The price of Ethereum could go anywhere. So far, the solution to the DAO hack is quite good, so the price could rise.

The Ethereum price is around $12 at the moment. It has risen below $10 from a few days ago. Let wait and see.

We just need to wait for 2 to 3 days to see the effect of the hard fork. The voting results so far favour the hard fork.

After the DAO exploit ethereum has ben losing grounds. Now I don't trust it and many others are now seeking to find another coin or project that can offer the same features but without the same flaws

If you do not trust it any more, it is better to sell it and do not care about it and waste time in the forum.

That is right. Too many trolls in the Ethereum thread. If they do not agree with hard fork, they can spend some money to mine not to fork.

Some people are mining the old chain at the moment. But the hash rate is quite low. They can get a lot ether.

Almost nobody is mining the old chain now. Most miners are mining the longest chain. So the hard fork is over.

iam not follow you say
you advice sell because ETH price prediction 1dollar
iam buy is price 0,016 and eth up iam sell in price 0,019 in much profit
thank you ethereum

hahah you are luky bro... hahahha   ;D
0.003 x ........  so TS nice predict for ethereum up for 1 dollar

The Ethereum Classic or ETC price is sub 1 dollar at the moment. If it is 51% attacked, its price will be lower than 0.1.

The old chain is still in tact ("Classic Ethereum"), and people mining on it may be able to get a lot of (Classic) Ethereum, but it is also virtually worthless by comparison to Eth, so not really very compelling.

It does seem to me that the people running Eth sold out and violated one of the core ideals of crypto, which is that you don't seek to undo transactions by rolling back the blockchain and forking it. But with that much money on the line for them, it's no wonder they sold out. All that idealism about what Eth was and could be was just a front. In the end, special interests ruled the day, and the only thing that can be guaranteed with Eth going forward is that if certain people lose money or it's politically expedient to do so, the directors of this currency will use consensus voting for their own gain.

look eth now more strong and the price stable at 0.02 above, we will see reach 0.03 at this week

I predict an attack on ETC by the weekend.

If the ETC price keep on rising, the hash rate will also rise. So it is more difficult to 51% attack the ETC.

The ETC hashing rate is about 19% of that of the ETH. It is quite difficult to attack it at the hashing rate.

It is about 10% of the ETH now. The hash rate is also 10% of the ETH. When the price drops further, the hash rate will also drop.

I think they missed the bus on this. By that time, total hashrqte may have grown to a point where a majority attack isn't feasible. Also, the sentiment towards ETH would only hurt the price. We aren't even going to talk about the second fork madness.

Expect a major 51% attack on ETC this weekend. I'm calling it folks. Better to get out of ETC while the exits are still clear.

I think now it will not go back to $1 , as the price of it is now better and going to a higher value after hard fork, Now it is not a possibility that it will reach to 1$ but we can start trade with it , but for shorter time not for longer.

I don't think ripple lasted as long as ETH in the market before going down...

If true an attempt to destroy peoples wealth is as low as it gets. The original DAO thief and members of the ETH community who might support this idea have a lot in common.

I do not think the major attack will happen before the Ethereum Foundation sells it ETC and the ETC price crashes.

I don't think there will be a 51% attack on ETC (at least in the near term), and I think the announced attack last week was a clever ploy to bring in more hash-rate and attention (money) to the chain.

At the time of the announcement of the impending 51% attack, the ETC hash rate was already going down on its own and not many people were paying attention to the ETC (non-forked) chain at all. Once the 51% post hit Reddit, many people took notice who weren't even paying attention before. This brought additional hash-rate over as some people simply like to take sides on something and wanted to help prevent this attack, and at the same time many more people became familiar with the non-forked chain and its potential. The price/hash rate ratio was also very favorable where early/clever miners could jump on the ETC chain and make more money, thus drawing even more attention, resulting in higher prices, perpetuating the cycle.

Now the real question is why. My suspicion is this is a clever ploy to get enough interest in the ETC chain to spike the price high enough/long enough for those with big bags to dump at a sizeable profit. On this level it appears to be working. Now the question is will the price and interest remain high enough, long enough, for the ETC chain to take on a life of its own.

I suspect within the next week or two we will see a substantial correction on the ETC price bring it sub .001 again. Once this happens we will also see a substantial decrease in hash-rate (as only the most true believers will mine at a loss for any length of time) and at this point it would open up the avenue for a 51% attack. If ETC can survive the next month or two will determine its long-term fate of either going into the dustbin of history or become a viable standalone coin of its own.

The OP was at April 05, 2016, 07:05:41 AM. That is almost 4 months after. The ETH is still over $10.

Well, I guess if the price decreases eth it is a natural thing, but if it goes down very far, I think the best thing is to sell it. but now I only want to see statistics price, if in the near future eth actually back at the price of $ 1, I think it is bad news for people who have a lot of eth, but for now, we do not need to rush to sell all eth we have

They are worse than the "hacker" by a long shot. All the "hacker" did was prove how smart contracts aren't ready yet but they didn't care and let all that money flow into the DAO. Then they pussy out and bailout. ETH deserves death and ETC deserves to shine. If someone tries to attack ETC, don't forget that there are bigger whales in BTC that make the whales in ETH look like fish so you better play it fair.

cnLedger on Twitter: "Chandler Guo on Wechat: 180 degree flip on ETC 51% attack"

https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/759673791387611137

Hopefully eth price does drop further and ETC goes up to where ETH is at at the moment.  I think soon enough both are destined to fail but at least hopefully i can squeeze the last bit of profit out of it that i can.

i agree, ethereum still has some life left in it so it is not going to die this soon and will continue to stay up but the massive drop will happen eventually. also for now it seems like the most attention is on ETC but it is too risky at the same time.

Ethereum has got a life after hard fork, and I think now it does not have any chance to go to sub $1 , and ETC is copying ETH, I cannot say that it will have any future as it does not represent a unique image but just a copy of ETH and competing ETH.

You appear to be confused ETC is not copying ETH.  ETC is ETH!  Its exactly the same ETH that existed before some people of questionable moral tried to HF their fuck up away.  Basically it the chains continuation with the HF never happening.

If anything is a copy of ETH its ETH HF version itself.  The have taken the original ETH chain which is now known as ETC (the ETH chain that didnt stop).  Altered some transactions they didnt like and pretended they never happened and started a new chain.

The best solution to this whole fucking mess would be that ETC should have been given the code ETH and the morally bankrupt hardforkers should tace had to get a new code to describe their new coin.  Because its no longer ETH.

ETH will drop because of ETC taken but it will not definitely go to 1 dollars unless the ETH foundation abandons the coin. ETC is just hype at the moment unless they can work on something exciting.

Well, I guess it's not as easy as ETH prices will drop to $ 1 for ETC. Well, it could be the price of ETC to be high, but I guess it will not affect the ETH, because I think people only spend their extra money for ETC. I'm sure the price will not be able to exceed ETC ETH in the near future

It is quite difficult for the ETH and ETC coexist. One of them will go below $1 or even less in the next few months.

How is ETC copying ETH? ETC is the original, unaltered chain. ETH is the corrupted version of ETC after the special interests changed the rules to roll back the money they lost. ETC was ETH before ETH changed itself.

It sounds essentially like this hardfork was a successful 51% attack. You have a group of people who control a majority of the mining power, and they decide to alter the blockchain (which is supposed to be immutable - that's the entire point of it) and essentially edit out transactions they don't like to return coins to certain people (a double spend!) and continue on in a new chain that renders moot the previous blocks. But in this case, we're calling this a good thing? Violating the core principle of blockchain-based crypto is a good thing? How far have the leaders of ETH fallen that they can violate the most important principle of crypto and view it as the right thing to do?

The people now has interest in it, and they are investing in there, but I don't think that it will be beneficial like it was before, it will give some profit to its users but I do not see any long life of it, I do not see any base of it in the future.

I am wondering if the ETC will have enough development in the future. It might be just a pump and dump coin.

Too much wishful thinking. It might drop but it won't go to $1 at least not overnight.

If you read the https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/, you will find most developers will be 100% on ETH.

I read that. If these guys confirm that they will support only the ETH earlier, we would not have this problem now.

see if you still say that if it drops to $5, $4, $3 etc. It is human nature to panic when something is going down.

That is right. I think the Ethereum will be used widely by the smart contract business. So the value could rise.

Yes, it's not going away anytime soon, by the contrary, price could rise because there are real projects building on top of it. So far most DAPPs indicated they will continue to use ETH not ETC.

From the comments on the reddit, most developers will only support the ETH but not the ETC in the future.

So it is possible that the ETC will become obsolete or it can just copy the codes from the ETH development.

Yes, it will have to. ETC is the legitimate chain, ETH is the corrupted chain. But all the developers are behind ETH, so ETC will have no proper development unless it copies what ETH is doing. And it will have to to stay relevant.

The ETC has to have developers or service providers to provide service on its chain, without them, it will not work.

Yes and at the moment it looks like it's not happening. Price is going lower and the momentum is fading away. The twitter account has been inactive seen August 2nd.

hahahahah... eth back to 1 dollar and bitcoin too back 1 dollar. jsut wait world War 3  ;D

Some bitcoiners want to the Ethereum to be dead so that the bitcoin can be the only major crypto currency.

Sour grapes I guess. It's not realistic just because you want it to be.

Without the funds from the bitcoiners, the ETC price will not be that high. I think there will be no market for it either.

That is right. Most of the developers said they will support the Ethereum ETH exclusively, so not many people will use ETC.

actually during world war 3 the btc  would probably rise dramatically in value. Unless of course all of civilization is destroyed

When ww3 happens, you will know bitcoin, eth are shits, noodles, bread and rice are real good things. :'(

That is possible as bitcoin is the universal money. It is like gold, not like the fiat issued by a single country or entity.

The Ethereum could also be a good money in the time of turmoil. It can also be used by business in the trouble times.

Will you have internet or computer during the World War 3? LOL, maybe we won't because power will be lacked

The Ethereum price is quite stable after the fork. Its price has risen over the last two weeks. So it has good support.

The Ethereum price is actually rising against the ETC. That means many people are deserting the ETC to buy ETH.

So far you are correct, but ETC may also recover sooner or later.

If the Ethereum Classic has a lot of money to support the further development of the ETC, the price could also rise a lot.

I heard some rich bitcoin owners bought a lot of ETC in the beginning. But they might not have enough money now as the price of ETC has dropped a lot.

I think it is now good and not going down again, a little pumps and dumps are there but we cannot say that it will be at $1 again.

Now the time has gone when we are in the wait that the price of bitcoin will come down to $1, now it is going good some people including me are in doubt but still a lot of people are of the view that the future of eth will be more better.

We are actually talking about the Ethereum at the moment. So the mention of the bitcoin could be just a typo.

This is true and i strongly agree with you, Altcoin have the same story and we all commonly experiencing it all the time when we  join  ICO and  invest a little  bit to a  newly  developed coin when it hits exchanges  the price continuously to go up and suddenly dump  so bad and   sell walls  are there already same as you said.

Coinye is 'dead'. Sadly ETH isn't going away for a long time. I still don't believe how 'Ripple' is above Litecoin, goes to show, people will trade these developer enriching hypecoins long after they've had their day.  :-\

I do not think the Ethereum price will go below $1. There will be a Ethereum Conference in the next few days. There could be a price pump.

I will wait for the day, but it seems very unlikely, cuz even litecoin is much higher than 1 usd, how can eth be sub 1 usd?

i think is accident is eth price down until one dollar much people can cry

Doubt it. Speculators just aren't going to let that happen. Don't see ETH dominating Poloniex volume anymore though so it might decline in price long term as more and more wish to look for other opportunities.

The Monero has the largest volume in Poloniex. I think the whales are accumulating the ETH now, when they have enough, they will pump it.

eth ethereum this big community
you can see volume transaction in poloniex this high
so i think this community will guard ethereum not super dump until reach price one dollar every one ethereum

1 dollar is very likely if only the entire Ethereum team including Vitalik have abandoned this project.

that's right mate if the dev itself abandoned the project i guess it can go down to 1$ but as long as the dev keep holding on and making its move i believe eth will stay behind btc.

That could be true. I think the developer will sell long before the Ethereum price drop below 1 dollar. They might do it when the price is $4.

very dificult can ethereum down until price reach one dollar
and no big news, ethereum big problem is imposible ethereum down until 1 dollar
this now community ethereum and solid use and trading ethereum

When do you think the Ethereum price will go down to 1 dollar. There is a prediction long time ago, the price is still higher.

What I see in poloniex is that ethereum is on the top of most traded coins in the last 24h

So the price is more than $12 (~0.02+) and to go to one dollar is impossible for now.

Thank you...

yeah there is a very nice pump going on right now and it is a very good opportunity to make some money from this coin.

but i think ethereum is doomed eventually especially with bug after bug which is being found in the code, it nearly looks like a swiss cheese these days full of holes.

Definitely not doomed yet, what if the price goes back at $20 level?

The 20$ are only a matter of time  :)

Now you buy ETH or not?

It could be a good time to buy the ETH.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/microsoft-marches-further-into-ethereum-blockchain-service-cryplets-enclaves-1582440

In the year since it publicly announced backing for Ethereum via the Azure Cloud Blockchain-as-a-Service (BaaS), Microsoft has been busy.

Taking to the stage at DevCon2, Marley Gray, who heads the Ethereum BaaS on the Azure project, pointed out that he had to do some horrible things to get Microsoft to agree to sponsor it last year. "This year it was really easy. And a lot more money."

Gray introduced Bletchly V1, Microsoft's blockchain network management system and "Cryplets", a middleware approach to providing tools for enterprise using blockchains released in June this year. Cryplets are a new building block which enables communication between the blockchain and external data sources; it's an area of intense concern to enterprise customers, noted Gray.

"All of our enterprise customers are trying to figure how to realise this distributed network promise. We are going to see this in healthcare, media, supply chains is huge. Cryplets is our catchall for capturing this stuff in the cloud," he said.

Gray said there are lots of missing points that businesses want, and Microsoft has identified a few things such as identity, existing systems integration, managing the life cycle of keys, for example. The overarching goal for Microsoft has been not just trusted data, but trusted execution, he added.

"It's something in enterprise that's paid a lot of attention to. How do you get clean separation of concerns in your code? So doing things at specific times or intervals, doing things based on triggers – you can have market watches. You also want to be able to use IP or algorithms that you have and still get the benefit of distributed ledger technology."

So Microsoft has been looking closely at oracles; the way external data can been introduced to smart contacts to "wake them up" and make them do stuff. "How do you get real world data in there – secure data for secure execution?

Gray said Cryplets does this by default. But it goes beyond into secure execution and Microsoft's BaaS is striving to create a "Cryplet fabric" that is easily consumed by developers.

"There is a lot of infrastructure we are building to wire this up. You will be able to discover Cryplets out in the market place, make reference to them, declaratively state what you want to do and have the infrastructure just work. Cryplets manage the entire security envelope.

"What you get is this sealed trust envelope with a three tier signature architecture. This can be taken further using a smart contract rather than an existing database. The user is declaring the data they want to keep track of and the stored procedures for updating that data.

"The Cryplet can run off-chain and you can scale it vertically to every single node. This is attractive to consortium networks where for example you have a bank and a hedge fund want to share some pricing algorithm that has to be kept secret; that can be run on the Cryplet, but still get the benefit of distributed ledger technology."

"But you might say, I can write this on my own – why would I use Azure to do this?"

Gray said in the future, Microsoft will provide secure "Enclaves" at the level of silicon, on the chip. "The advances in silicon, in hardware for security, namely Intel SGX, creates Enclaves. It's an area of the chip itself where you can have code and have data run that is tamper resistant.

"It's the chip itself that is tamper proof; you can't poke into it, or interrupt it. It provides full attestation at the CP level, built in the Enclave to run in the Enclave. You want scale, security, attestation – you are trying to get that big contract with a bank, let's say.

"If you can make rock solid guarantees that your code is running in a secure, isolated container, in the cloud, and recorded into the blockchain – it gives you a level of security that you can't really get anywhere else at scale. You can deploy this with Azure."

A 26-page white paper has been released by Microsoft on Cryplet innovations, added Gray. "We are now building this. So you can't start using it today but you can read the paper and start planning the apps it will allow you to develop."

That is right. After the big whales accumulate enough Etheruem in the next few months, the price will rise above $20.

If you check the recent price of ETH then you can see that the price has been changed +10% and it is a good move from ETH traders.

To see it on 1 dollar I really doubt and ETH is also listed on coinbase which makes a good reputation.

Thank you...

Do we look at the same chart ? :p ETH/BTC is snot saying the same. And I guess Ethereum is more linked to BTC than to DOL.

http://nsa37.casimages.com/img/2016/09/23/160923114844652042.png

Every coin and every sensitive system has bugs and these are fixed when they are found immediately.

Ethereum was good in the early stages when the price was much lower and then was just keeping increasing.

I don't think that ethereum got doomed because of this but since it has a greater price now means something good is happening.

Could you tell me how much vulnerabilities were found on Windows ? hundreds. maybe thousands.
And Bill Gates is still the second richest man in the world.

When you say that even windows is buggy that means that nothing in this world is perfect.

And so the the ethereum is, because the technology trending is going fast and those who work on security get the highest salary.

That is right. Windows has been around for more than 20 years and still has many bugs. The Ethereum is good enough.