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work in progress
ps ... prefer the old moniker ... MRO (Monero)


_{principle 1}
general advice is to accumulate
Doge LTC MRO UNO as you can, when you can, almost at all times
<sub>EDIT: ETH too now ... it is a major trader, plus learn the USDT pairs

principle 2</sub>
Use LTC and Doge as liquids  (move with general btc price trends)
<sub>EDIT: use XMR too now ... has moved above Doge in volume/capital

principle 3</sub>
Use XMR as part liquid & as part store of value ($1 basis)
moot XMR now has cleared $1 forevermore and has higher cost/day due to emissions .. so XMR shifts fully to p.2


_{principle 4}
Use UNO as cold storage offline store of value ($3.00 basis)/(o.oo5ooooo satos basis) .. if under that BUY!!!

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Bitcoin inflation per day (USD):$2,350,476
http://bitcoinblockhalf.com/
https://bitinfocharts.com/

The Shitcoiner's Guide to Shitcoin Logic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430839.0
Lies Bagholders Tell Themselves https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1059045.140
Bitcoins are a prisoner's dilemma and not possible to beat adaptive alt coins https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1449592.0
the now inescapable conclusion that it has failed https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-resolution-of-the-bitcoin-experiment-dabb30201f7
Better metric for altcoin ADOPTION marketsize than manipulated marketcap&volume? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1426481.0
total trading volume summarized http://cryptocoincharts.info/coins/graphicalComparison
Tales from the trading floor of the Bitcoin markets by r0ach https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1455386.0
my honest question to all anons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1438311.msg14669148#msg14669148
[ltc] To remember WHY Litecoin is a good investment https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1339992.msg13671770#msg13671770
[ltc] Litecoin IS Bitcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1590080.0
[ltc] Litecoins market cap pretty consistent at around 2% of Bitcoins https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430685.0
[ltc] Litecoin is showing nice stability  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1431798.0
[LTC] TX speed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1551868.msg15597339#msg15597339
[LTC] Litecoin Speculation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1452558.0
[doge] Why Doge coin is bad February 12, 2014 by sPoeTniK  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=461360.0
[doge] Predicted Price of dogecoin? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443771.0
[doge] Re: Dogecoin  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1488784.msg15011812#msg15011812
[doge] When Dogecoin halving? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1526275.new#new
[XMR] Monero Speculation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.0
[XMR] Monero Improvement Technical Discussion https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1139756.0
[XMR] https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/hall-of-fame
[XMR] rpietila Monero Economics thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702140
[XMR] rpietila Altcoin Observer  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624223.0
[XMR] Why the bitmonero/monero Ninjalaunched Cripplemined Fastmine matters  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1435385.0
[XMR] THE RISE AND RISE OF MONERO  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1595182.0
[XMR] The Truth About Monero's Risto Pietila (rpietila XMR) - warning https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=793787.0
[uno] The case for merge mined coins  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1505824.0
[uno] WHICH COIN HAS THE LOWEST ANNUAL CREATION INFLATION ?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1531387.20
[UNO] price per kilo <<guess-o-matic >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1577545.0
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[PPC][XPM] Peercoin/Primecoin Weekly Updates https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114994.0
[xXx] [NSFW] adult coins https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1428899.msg14601176#msg14601176
[xXx] [NSFW] Sexcoin Art Thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=432074.0
[AUR] Auroracoin market observer .. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1067036.0
[XVG] Verge - Speculation & Discussion  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1366103.0
[HYP] Let's take a closer look at HyperStake SCAM  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830958.400
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[eth] The Ethereum Paradox https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361602.0
[eth]  How many Ether will be produced? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1413322.msg14608316#msg14608316
[eth] Ethereum is a billion dollar bubble https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1395886.msg14177530#msg14177530
[eth] Eth bubble has popped - Will you be left a bagholder? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430553.msg14469158#msg14469158
[eth] End Of Ether  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1450985.0
[dash] Dash: The Future Internet Of Money? NOPE! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430587.msg14483588#msg14483588
[dash] Why the darkcoin/dash instamine matters https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0
[dash] SCAM Darkcoin instamine 2 millions DRKs (50% of darkcoin in circulation) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

next PUMP : 25.03.17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1840861.msg18337276#msg18337276  Uno Spring Rally CALLEd x2 overweekend  ;)

markets:
https://poloniex.com/exchange#usdt_xmr
https://bter.com/trade/xmr_cny
https://c-cex.com/?lpm=usd&p=uno-usd

https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_xmr
https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-XMR
https://hitbtc.com/exchange/XMR-to-BTC

https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-uno
https://bleutrade.com/exchange/UNO/BTC
https://c-cex.com/?p=uno-btc

https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_ltc
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=XMR_LTC
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=UNO_LTC
https://c-cex.com/?p=uno-ltc

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=XMR_DOGE
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=UNO_DOGE
https://bleutrade.com/exchange/UNO/DOGE
https://c-cex.com/?p=uno-doge

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=XMR_UNO
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=BTCD_UNO
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=BLK_UNO


https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_nxt
https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_maid
https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_dash
https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_xdn
https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_blk
https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_btcd

LTC_DOGE
https://c-cex.com/?p=ltc-doge
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=DOGE_LTC
bleutrade.com bleu delisted their LTC market
https://novaexchange.com/market/LTC_DOGE/

resources:[UNO][XMR][doge]

[UNO] http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/unobtanium/#markets
[XMR] http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monero/?markets=all#markets

[UNO] https://www.reddit.com/r/unobtanium
[XMR] https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMarkets/

[UNO] https://twitter.com/unobtanium_uno
[XMR]

[UNO] http://www.unobtanium.uno/
[XMR] https://getmonero.org/home

[UNO] http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/coins/unobtanium
[XMR] http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/coins/monero

[XMR] http://chainradar.com/xmr/blocks
[UNO] https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/#!overview (https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/#!overview)

[UNO]
[XMR] https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero

--[XMR]--
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monero_%28cryptocurrency%29
http://monero.org/
https://mymonero.com/
https://forum.getmonero.org/ (official)
https://monerotalk.org/
https://minergate.com/pool-stats/xmr

--[ doge]--
http://dogecoin.com/
https://dogechain.info/
http://dogepay.com/
http://www.doges.org/
https://www.reddit.com/r/doge
https://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin
https://twitter.com/DogeTheDog

vitals:

inflation
Holding Costs of Daily Inflation / Network Expendentures

BTC   3600/day >> $420 >>> $1512000
ETH  28800/day >> $11.50 >>$0331200
LTC  14400/day >> $3.25 >>  $0046800
XMR 9600/day >> $1.50 >>>  $0014000
DSH  1567/day >> $7.20 >>> $0011282
PPc   9709/day >> $0.45 >>> $0004369
DOG  600k/day >> 54satos >>$0003400  == 7.92 BTC
UNO  003/day  >> $2.75 >>>  $0000009 == 0.02 BTC
^{estimates April 1 2016}

annual rate
BTC   >>> 8.87%
ETH   >>>
LTC   >>>
XMR   >>>
DSH   >>>
PPc   >>>
DOG   >>>
UNO   >>> 0.37%

http://bitcoinblockhalf.com/
http://www.thehalvening.com

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hash rate

Using M = Sent avg. per hour, H = Hashrate (normalized) (https://bitinfocharts.com/):

Coin |	Relative Adoption |	Ratio |	Adoption-adjusted Market Cap
1.Bitcoin	6.5×10¹²	1	$6.4 billion
2.Namecoin	8.6x10¹⁰	1/76	$85 million
3.Ethereum	6.6x10¹⁰	1/99	$65 million
4.Litecoin	1.3x10¹⁰	1/500	$13 million
5.Dash	9.8x10⁹	1/663	$10 million
6.Blackcoin	7.4x10⁸	1/8784	$0.7 million
7.Dogecoin	6.1x10⁸	1/10656	$0.6 million
8.Auroracoin	5.8x10⁶	1/1120690	$5,931

^{*UNO has the same tech as NMC (Merge mined with BTC), and pulls about the same hash as peer, but can scale to NMC levels given adoption by major pools.}

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nodes
https://c-cex.com/?id=ws&shownodes=uno


https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_289920.jpg
plotting muddy are thoughts of
rewind foxes are reversable they are
orchid yesterday was blue
soprano cafe is dirty
atlas girth is fatness
truth vampire soprano is he not?

you need to recheck XMR average daily emission. I think your mistake was wrong interpret fork.

Monero (XMR)
Network Hashrate: 25.67 MH/s
Block Reward: 13.1771
Blocks: 1,021,236
Block Time: 1.00 minute(s)
http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/coins/monero

18974.88 xmr/day
^{for today}

daily emission are not fixed but vary, correct?
by diff?

got links to "XMR average daily emissions"?

The block time is 2 minutes, it used to be 1 minute. Meaning, there are 720 blocks per day (used to be 1440).
The total emission was not touched - the block reward was readjusted according to the change of the # of blocks.

yah, for real?, talk to coinwarz XMR, such unprofessionalz ;D
okay OP stuff updated, yah!

edit:
Block reward = (M - A) * 2-20 * 10-12
XMR will produce 15.48 million out of the total possible 18 million Monero in only 4 years
@ 11,6M now

shiitty graphics inc.
PRESENTS

clue #1
https://i.imgur.com/FDXy39U.jpg

clue #2
something that invests in both A&B and balances the in between ;)
https://i.imgur.com/hkAdvAN.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/YAMhiZ4.jpg?1https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_17501.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/vz7ufLe.jpg?1
_{http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2731/4298934427_2a506c39f7.jpg http://imgur.com/zSwrbr2
ex. http://coinoindex.com/}

Here is a doc with the emission:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qXi7zUSIh7F6UuSuhOryyFbHEy_LJuym3I3neAga_2s/edit?pli=1#gid=239466694

This hasn't been adjusted yet to 2 minutes, but for inflation percentages that shouldn't matter.

clue #3

Bitcoin
not included
not needed
but you can still liquidate to btc
quickly ;)

clue #4

a wheel within wheels within wheels
https://i.imgur.com/EjYohRv.jpg?1

clue #5
https://i.imgur.com/NeL9Uhw.png
programmable money, somewhat, but more about instantaneously transformable, so a core principle is best encapsulated with the term "ShapeShift" 

clue #6
https://i.imgur.com/JWQzRaX.jpg?1
decentralized, redundant, robust, multifaceted

yes BTC is still integral but not imperial
https://i.imgur.com/ph9JlnQ.jpg?1
it will demand to be the center of attention
but smarter eyes will route around ;)

clue #7
Yarrrrrrrbitrage
https://i.imgur.com/Peq0Jju.png?1
(just let the BOTs do the quick thinking)

clue #8

a is like b yet not the same as b; and c differs from both a AND b; yet they all share similar properties; thus confusion.

A: currency
B: stock
C: store of value

https://i.imgur.com/I65acgH.jpg

A: asset (as in liquid currency)
B: business (as in they bring in the bucks :: business plan)
C: capital (as in keep your money preserved)

clue #9
no vape
https://i.imgur.com/Ta9U727.jpg?1
functional / working / trading

clue #10
peace of mind portfolios
https://i.imgur.com/1mKbXhT.jpg?1
work within the Golden Triangle 8)

the idea is now basically fully revealed.  
there is no get rich quick hot stock.  
but there is the ability hold and store wealth (and it scales nicely) (and you can use XMR to be discrete).
and you can still trade in 'the market' outside of the BTC base pairing.

A: monero & doge for liquidity assets (some LTC when the time/price is right)
B: business stock ... any coin that directly trades for XMR, DOGE, or UNO
C: store of value (cold storage offline) UNO

So let's put this debate to bed before it even happens ...

If you are in BTC Maximilist camp.  Great.  Goood for you :D
Then please just politely move along.  You have your thread above, and many others.

To any one else, in the not sure camp, do your own due diligence, do your homework.  Ask TPTB_need_war or Spoetnik and I am sure they'd be happy to tell you 101 reasons never to buy an Alt coin.    

Please keep in mind this is the "Altcoin Discussion" section.  And this thread hopes to provide some wise direction for Alt coin buyers that seek the best of the better.  Not the hottest quickest buck, aka the next big pump/dump, just solid Alternatives to bitcoin.  More specifically the intent is to frame a strategy of investing that allows for a decoupling from BTC in price discovery, and yet maintain a pool of liquid reserves.

re: Why I am decoupling from bitcoin (and suggest you could too)

1.   The Network is consolidating not expanding.  
2.   Inflation, it continues at horrific levels until long after I am dead, dust, and long forgotten.
3.   I'd rather have a 0.1% stake in an investment, than a 0.0000001% stake.
4.   I am a contrarian investor, deal with it.
5.   You can have the penny and the bun.  

On point 2
Yes BTC might hit another hype cycle and thus it might then hit another NEW HIGH pricing level.  But can anyone confidently say BTC can hold +$5000/coin over the next 2 mining eras (2016-2024)?  It is a ridiculous amount of capital to continuously raise.  And if you not sure please workout the numbers.  So it is a classic tale, the up side is not all that much, the down side likely not much either.  The best thing for BTC is that it has reached equilibrium numbers, yet contains enough risk/reward to attract more and more capital to play at the price discovery tables.  To be king of liquidity does not necessitate +$5000/coin, and BTC must be stable enough to transmit $money from A-B, going thru another craze will likely turn away real merchant adoption that is slowly entering the waters (you know Visa/Mastercard/Paypal levels).

On point 5.
There are a growing number of 'Alts' that have enough liquidity for a semi-active investor ... say Sunday traders ... to move fair sized chunks instantly ... LTC to BTC or BTC to XMR ... traders can already trigger actions.  And the hope here is to spark a few more fluid channels like DOGE to XMR.  Point is you can go back to BTC on a whim ... you don't need to time the market nor plot a way to unwind a position ... there are alternative options for your liquid reserves.

re:  play the market

investing below XMR (top 30 ... at least the top 30 this week)

EMC  /uno
PPC  /uno
TIPS /uno
DASH /xmr
BCN  /xmr
NXT  /xmr
MAID /xmr
NMC  /uno
RBT  /uno
RBY  /uno
GRC  /uno
DGB  /uno
GAME /uno
BLK  /uno
DCR  /uno

*Now I am not suggesting all or even a few of these coins are one's you ought invest in.  I am saying if you want to buy any of the coins listed, well you could do it with XMR or UNO.  All of these coins can connect sans use of BTC.  Is this a kind of superNET?  Is this bigger than BTS?  Could it be a crypto 2.0 project?  It already connects to NXT and to MAID, it will likely connect to more 2.0 projects in time.

Now include Doge ;)

thus you get ETH /doge

And the doge nearly triplicates the inter-connected-ness ... super fluid properties are possible ... and LTC base pairing is not forgotten in the model ... and the BTC based trading is not going to disappear.

https://i.imgur.com/INCzTav.jpg?1

UNO, DOGE, LTC, XMR all have direct trading pairs .... see the triangle .gif  a few posts below to get a visual picture ;)

the Top10s (base pair markets)

R.I.P. ripple
There once was a fledgling XRP base pair market.  It died with Cryptsy.  Let the dead be and stay dead.

ETH has a base pair market?  XEM has a base pair market?  Steallar has a base pair market?

BTC, LTC, DOGE, and XMR are the Top10s that do have known base pair markets!

BTS is still trying, but it is something completely different from the sort of model being constructed here.

I seem to have forgotten one of the Top 10 in market cap ... hmmm  ;D

re: $usd


I suggest caution with C-Cex. Yet I have no issue with their service.  Just that this is crypto  ;)

But there is now a means to store value in UNO and then exit directly to your paypal, and that means the ability to convert to cash at most any ATM on the planet.  This is a new option for those that play crypto/fiat trade pairs.

With the LTC, DOGE, XMR liquidity you can trade large $$$ sums and take positions in almost any major fiat.  So back to the 'shapeshift' concept ... rapid conversions from fiat to crypto and back are possible via direct trades.  

For parking fiat UNO is perfectly designed to maintain fiat evaluated market caps, just make sure to buy around the 90day average, you can think of UNO as a kind of CD, and offset fiat for 60-180-360 days.  

LTC, DOGE, XMR are not designed for longterm market cap gains.  Yes they could see huge gains in their market caps, but they, like BTC, have high inflation.  So they could drop their spot prices and yet hold capital levels and increase Liquidity.  

A B C

Assets provide liquids (LTC, DOGE, XMR)
Capital stores dollar denominated value (UNO)

 

re: CNY

http://www.btc38.com/trade.html?mk_type=cny&btc38_trade_coin_name=doge

btc38 is the largest doge market by volume
and it is priced in CNY

https://i.imgur.com/8AVHXwA.jpg

ltc is likely to establish fair volume trade to all major forex markets.

xmr obviously is best served to focus on a $usd market first.

uno is not looking to great volume driven markets, but will likely be less attached to BTC based evaluation and more tied to $USD evaluation. 

prime channels

doge/ltc  ... whom has that market?
mrc/ltc ..... https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_ltc  *THIS is the #1 xmr traded pair ;)
uno/ltc ..... whom has that market?

*because, simply LTC has the most capital, so using as a center post for fluidity is an obvious choice
thus; prime channels are the three corners of the LTC triangle offense.  

^{**prime channels would be top right triangle in .gif below}

exhibit A
https://i.imgur.com/xVMtsjc.jpg?1


You could play any of four triangle offenses, the center coin would be the one you hold most confidence (thus most investment) in.

**The 5th man is still BTC, you don't pass the ball to him often, but if needed you can. (like I said BTC is not going away)

***Note the lack of channels that connect any of the potential offensive strategies to the Ripple or ETH markets ... there are none ... remember that clue about no vaporware ;) ... stick with functional / working / trading(base pair coins) ... :D ... for the ETH fanboy club already in tears ... don't worry there is the outside play option via ETH /doge pairing.

clue #10 ... wealth storage long game strategy

You can set base camp at any of the 5 coins thus given.
And you pass the ball to the other 4 corner players.

You can store value in which ever coin you're the biggest fan.  But the smart suggestion is to use the coin with the least amount of inflation to act as your reserve bullion aka base camp ... that would be the bottom right triangle strategy ...   ;) ;) ;) ... also the center piece in the above super awesome .gifs!

The Council™ has NOT issued seals of approval for:
DOGE
XMR
UNO
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F1z3oy89.png&t=557&c=Qqh8ip5GzYnA5g
but it maybe likes
Litecoin
Prime Coin
see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=843802.0 for fine print

dream team
https://i.imgur.com/cWvvrRM.png?1

vol. april 15

btc $ 50,872,800
eth $ 12,981,000
xrp $     192,039

ltc  $ 1,210,500    
xmr  $ 398,528
maid $ 212,454
doge $ 125,706    
dgb  $90k    

https://i.imgur.com/AlUw8jD.jpg
dream team is @#3 if me math works ... my condolences XRP ... rust in peace  ;D

Hah Good job on this setup man. It is brillant and I agree on pretty much all the "dream team" coins. Those are the ones Ive mostly been mining. I just wish I knew more or had more hands on experience with mining my own coins with my own power instead of cloud... I've never done it but have been wanting to buy a descent miner and start myself. Bitcoin has been on a pretty stable rise the past few days but I believe thats also due to alot of "shitcoins" losing their connections to the blockchain permanently causing slot of people to sell of their coins for something they know is holding and should stay stable. Any help or advance you could shoot me even in a PM or not; don't matter. Just really enjoyed your post.

Thanks ShakeyBakey.

Yes looking to build something that is more stable or at least the ability hold MA value with reasonable certainty.  A fair balanced investment in the dream team aims to do just that.


there's example of a very conservative portfolio but it fits within the XMR/Doge/UNO/LTC mode of investing

my suggestion is a bit more 'controversial' on investing in the BTC

i say, "No!"
now i still need to hold a little for price discounts that might appear in the BTC to XMR/Doge/UNO/LTC markets
but in general i am invested in XMR/Doge/UNO/LTC not BTC

for BTC investing is for the super passive investor, and those guys bought in at $1100 and they will need to sit on that 'investment' until 2052.

now you might be a BTC trader (which differs from BTC investor)
in that case you will need 2 portfolios:
  -portfolio BTC/fiat/forex/futures day trading
  -portfolio XMR/Doge/UNO/LTC wealth management holdings

https://i.imgur.com/h3G8xCF.jpg?1
= dream team

5th Man:

btc
$usd
cny
gold
euro
jpy

whatever post you want quick exposure to yet has very deep liquidity, basically the Big10 of the forex markets.
you can go big on one or blend if you must  ;)
but your principle motive is the have a big center player, he doesn't move fast or jump high, but is powerful.

the higher triangle
https://i.imgur.com/sB9UNum.png?2
if you've got 100s of $millions to play with
sure go big on BTC, ETH

the higher triangle : market suggestion

LONG
BTC $460 until $525 if you a believer ($495 if you a conservative/low risker)
LTC $3.90 until $4.25

SHORT
ETH

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doge ? don't have strong indications
XMR hold ... buy under $1
uno hold (or if you want to pick up +500 kilos snappy like now is a great time)

general advice is accumulate
Doge LTC MRO UNO as you can almost at all times

but at this moment
making a big move into BTC/LTC and out of ETH seems to be the mainstream trend
but you will need to time well  ;)

UNO lolz
got some dump bucket head

anyone with game and +3BTC
you ready to rock?

hit LTC
PnD
hit Doge
PnD
hit XMR
PnD
hit UNO
HOLD

wait for the next apttern  8)

the triangle : uno/xmr/ltc/doge : Core4
https://i.imgur.com/h3G8xCF.jpg?1

BUY BUY BUY BUY

but UNO is super cheap BUY until $2.10
(why because BigVern just dropped about the next 10 years of mining production on the market)
in between the up spike and down spike is the fact that we took control of 15k of UNO that Vern placed on bittrex, so we screwed his PnD, now he is dumping coins left and right (DMD got hit too!)

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BTC looks to be in a holding pattern between $420 and $450
it will be a while before it runs at breaking $450

dumping a large chunk of BTC into the4(uno/xmr/ltc/doge) for just 10 days is an easy +10%
and you can jump right back to BTC

*BigVern might have the loot to turn the LTC/Doge markets (Dash too) so watchout kids!

UNO $1.60 > $2 since suggestion.

Re: Most undervalued coin?

I have the solid opinion that UNO is the most undervalued, but that's my thing, and not everyone wants bitcoin level security with nearly nill inflation, cool.

So I agree.  If you want a super easy big gainer with deep liquidity. LTC is a fair bet.  It may take 2 more years but testing $5 is going to happen, topping off at $20 could happen, really up to China.  But of the Core4, LTC is going to deliver the least gains ... yet it offers the best liquidity.

change of opinion

ETH now included

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange/?market=UNO_ETH
+ltc/eth, doge/eth

;)

Now there is multi-directional super liquidity [btc, ltc, eth]
the higher triangle
https://i.imgur.com/sB9UNum.png?2
is fully operational

xmr / eth pair is the only incomplete piece! (and not really needed)

for fun:

watch the XMR/DASH pair @ polo
https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_dash

nice indicator between the 2 lead anons

*in general DASH is basically blacklisted from the investment strategy ... see the premine
**However if you consider the premine and just use Dash aka DuffyBucks as a means to move value, in and out quick, that's okay ;)  but holding Dash for and length of time and you run great risk.

https://i.imgur.com/Z16KWAB.gif

the dirty dozen upgraded
==============

BTC ETH LTC
DOGE XMR UNO
ppc nmc dgb
rdd black xpm
==============
rookie squad
FTC clam emer decred vrc Q nova
btcd diem nxt maid qora

ALT decentralized on/off ramps
https://bitsquare.io/

“ETH”, “Ethereum”
“DAO”, “DAO”
“LTC”, “Litecoin”
“XMR”, “Monero”
“NMC”, “Namecoin”
“DASH”, “Dash”
“SDC”, “ShadowCash”
“NBT”, “NuBits”
“NSR”, “NuShares”
“PPC”, “Peercoin”
“XPM”, “Primecoin”
“FAIR”, “FairCoin”
“SC”, “Siacoin”
“SJCX”, “StorjcoinX”
“GEMZ”, “Gemz”
“DOGE”, “Dogecoin”
“MKR”, “Maker”
“BLK”, “Blackcoin”
“FCT”, “Factom”
“NXT”, “Nxt”
“STEEM”, “STEEM”
“BTS”, “BitShares”
“XCP”, “Counterparty”
“XRP”, “Ripple”
“XEM”, “NEM”
“ANTI”, “Anti.cash”
“VPN”, “VPNCoin”
“MAID”, “MaidSafeCoin”
“YBC”, “YbCoin”
“CLOAK”, “CloakCoin”
“EGC”, “EverGreenCoin”
“VRC”, “VeriCoin”
“ESP”, “Espers”
“XVG”, “Verge”
“MYR”, “Myriadcoin”
“MXT”, “MarteXcoin”
“GRS”, “Groestlcoin”
“IOC”, “I/O Coin”
“SIB”, “Sibcoin”
“CRBIT”, “Creditbit”
“BIGUP”, “BigUp”
“XPTX”, “PlatinumBar”
“JBS”, “Jumbucks”
“PINK”, “Pinkcoin”
“OK”, “OKCash”
“GRC”, “Gridcoin”
“MOIN”, “Moin”
“SLR”, “SolarCoin”
“SHIFT”, “Shift”
“ERC”, “Europecoin”
“POST”, “PostCoin

+93.75 % for the week

well played xMR well played

i feel very sooth sayer today ... https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange

much appreciation tripleHexxx Industriesss ;)

all zoso,

https://poloniex.com/exchange#usdt_xmr

rubber meets the road right there

{crypto}{dasrk}
---------------
{fiat}$

ETH only has DAO market.
game over.

More Layers of inter-connected-ness via XMR

https://www.coinpayments.net/supported-coins
https://shapeshift.io/#/coins
https://changelly.com/rates
http://newbium.com/

Like anon-y-ness-ism?

1. store value in UNO
2. shapeshift direct via XMR/UNO pair
3. mix at https://xmr.to/
4. pay anywhere accepting BTC

http://moneroblocks.info/richlist
https://i.imgur.com/4DidW7B.png
https://i.imgur.com/gQlj9Oy.png

Schaubild 1: Zentralisierungsgrade
https://img1.steemit.com/0x0/https://www.steemimg.com/images/2016/08/17/schaubild1a8a4.png

Doomsday Altcoin

Go Mo!

More volume than ETH + ETC combined ... w00f!

1    Bitcoin Bitcoin    BTC    $ 9,211,639,492    $ 581.91    15,829,980    $ 72,005,200    -0.14 %    -0.52 %    1.04 %
8    Monero Monero    XMR    $ 56,893,116    $ 4.47    12,730,643    $ 16,755,300    -1.67 %    -7.11 %    107.00 %
4    Litecoin Litecoin    LTC    $ 186,115,681    $ 3.94    47,251,154    $ 8,749,290    -0.05 %    1.90 %    8.68 %
2    Ethereum Ethereum    ETH    $ 921,471,452    $ 11.06    83,292,337    $ 5,699,430    -0.29 %    0.19 %    0.49 %
6    Ethereum Classic Ethereum Cla...    ETC    $ 123,083,856    $ 1.48    83,264,347    $ 5,613,470    -2.04 %    -6.18 %    -17.40 %
11    Factom Factom    FCT    $ 25,167,605    $ 2.88    8,753,219 *    $ 3,435,030    -1.20 %    3.98 %    35.14 %
3    Ripple Ripple    XRP    $ 214,375,292    $ 0.006028    35,562,073,617 *    $ 1,344,930    0.07 %    0.44 %    -1.70 %
7    Dash Dash    DASH    $ 87,628,403    $ 13.10    6,686,894    $ 1,283,870    0.58 %    -2.43 %    3.77 %
70    Novacoin Novacoin    NVC    $ 848,910    $ 0.577422    1,470,172    $ 1,148,860    -0.48 %    -3.43 %    -7.58 %
10    Lisk Lisk    LSK    $ 28,341,800    $ 0.283418    100,000,000 *    $ 1,024,780    5.88 %    11.41 %    8.56 %
13    Nxt Nxt    NXT    $ 21,341,437    $ 0.021363    998,999,994 *    $ 263,221    -1.06 %    -7.24 %    -26.39 %
5    Steem Steem    STEEM    $ 139,438,261    $ 1.14    122,596,020    $ 247,441    0.54 %    -7.28 %    -24.54 %
12    Dogecoin Dogecoin    DOGE    $ 23,904,923    $ 0.000226    105,737,501,093    $ 234,537    0.28 %    -0.30 %    -8.93 %

What a nice collection of links.. I'm going to go through this thread thoroughly when I get some time..

Suggested the Mo @ around $1.25 ...

;)

UNO is poised for a breakout now ... lead, follow, or get out of the way ... so far XMR is leading the pack.  More volume than LTC even ETC!!

XMR LTC UNO DOGE (5th man still needed)

nice and nifty


https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?baseMarket=XMR
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?baseMarket=UNO

Case for LTC

+new dev hired
+some Anon project from Colby

LTC is dead
https://litecoin.org/
releases new website

lol LTC new website looks like every other shitcoin bootstrap website. 

Also, UNO chart looks like shit and apparently it's about to get delisted from Bittrex. 

Also, I also liked MRO better, but am dealing with XMR ok.

was @ $1.10 now @ $2 ...shit?... are you high on monero?

UNO generated over the next 365 days ...

ave: 0.96 kg /day

XMR has $110000/day overhead
UNO has $2/day overhead

I was just looking at the last year and a half or so in BTC terms (on bittrex), which is how I generally think about alts, but you're right, the market is pretty steady in dollar terms over that same time I would say:
https://i.imgur.com/zuZRMER.png

cool stuff
https://www.litevault.net
https://liteaddress.org/

slug shyness algebra pistons were injury powder hospital cage toilet dusted hitched cage
https://mymonero.com

https://ethereumclassic.github.io/
cc1d01b87e6d2285cee254b10dd9016749c596df119d78ddcaf715d4e98c7443
0x11cEbE5b529e568Af2D3A858D6049B159E5B822c

https://www.dogevault.com/
Announcement

We regret to announce that on the 11th of May, attackers compromised the Doge Vault online wallet service resulting in wallet funds being stolen.

After salvaging our wallet we have ascertained that around 280 million Dogecoins were taken in the attack, out of a total balance of 400 million kept in our hot wallet. 120 million Dogecoins have been since recovered and transferred to an address under our control.

It is believed the attacker gained access to the node on which Doge Vault’s virtual machines were stored, providing them with full access to our systems. It is likely our database was also exposed containing user account information; passwords were stored using a strong one-way hashing algorithm.

All private keys for addresses are presumed compromised, please do not transfer any funds to Doge Vault addresses.

Doge Vault.
Posted 15/05/2014

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/unobtanium/#markets

i believe it is time for XMR to demonstrate a re-bound.

FUCK YOU DASH ... rally.

that is all.

moving to principle#4 ... see OP


XMR looking to hold +$20, or better DAZSH is all downhill from here on out.

Start thinking TX speeds.  DanistheMan, still.

Principle #4 realized, this weekend, the bar may or or may not be raised, likely $5 or under is time to stock up for the next 6 months, by fall cycle will likely get UNO to $10 as base value.