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$8-$9 before going back to  $10-$12+

..then to the moon $25+!  ;)

Zero because it's a closed entropy permissioned ledger (just like all PoS coins), which means it's distributed but not decentralized, so it's technically more like a shareholder owned business.  Except there are usually laws about trading shares of a company, so it's more like some type of illegal security (with a kinda flaky security model like all PoS systems).  It really has nothing in common with Bitcoin at all.  Even if you want a shareholder owned business and not a decentralized system, it's unable to scale to offer any commercial viability for it's services.  

Federated chains are not decentralized either, but they usually have high performance.  You have to take a hit in performance to move from federated to decentralized.  Eth is neither federated or decentralized, so it has the cons of both systems and none of the benefits.

I think you should rethink a little more about security differences if it comes to POS/POW. There is literally no difference of buying half of the coins or half of the mining capacity if it comes to a coin with a high market cap. POS with forging is the equivalent to interest in your bank account and so its a good way to go...
Mining is perfect for a fair distribution method. Its also fine, if we find a way using the mining power for calculating useful things, but the waste of the SHA shit is for the ass...

I do not think the Ethereum has reached the bottom yet. If the price stay around 0.02 for 2 to 3 months, then it is the bottom.

Ethereum to me looks like one of the most manipulated coins anyway, i wouldn't be surprised if it goes way lower, and then a few more
pumps and dumps, just to make profit for large holders. If you are thinking of investing, i would advise you high caution.

Mining is a waste of Electricity and no fairness - POS is the way to go for a good healthy network and fairness. Everyone can keep their wallets staking but not all people that can buy expensive mining rigs and keep mining forever.

Now everybody want to see LISK released. This might be even better pump and maybe historically highest prices for some alts, in comparison to other similar projects, or maybe LTC , DASH who knows, trading already started (token trading) with very good volume.

I would hope it goes back to $5 levels, ETH has been good so far for me.

Cant agree more. $5 seems reasonable for ETH

Probably we will see many pumps and dumps with this project, because this is way for making money.
 If drop significantly i will rejoin, but till then i'm in others related and even better projects.

Wrong.  No matter how you try and spin it, closed entropy systems are permissioned ledgers that aren't decentralized.  Distributed yes, but not decentralized or permissionless.

If you don't understand why, read this thread:

IOTA - Permissioned ledger Russian extortion scheme

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1414866.0

I agree with the first line of your post. I guess it's time to buy it, and it will go back to $12 soon. However I don't see the value of ethereum anywhere closer to $25 in at least upcoming 3 months.

Ethereum is not a POS coin and it had a fair distribution. It has some serious design flaws in my opinion but it's as decentralized as Bitcoin is. Why do you think it's not a decentralized currency ?

Does Bitcoin scale ???? Right now the blocks are full and in 2-3 months it's going to be much worse...   

Unless you live in a cave, it's been known forever Eth is converting to PoS.  Eth was designed solely as a cash grab, and you can't have an IPO for a PoW coin and then leak mined coins after (investors don't like being diluted), so to make as much money as possible, they used PoS because you can't IPO with PoW!


Just wrote about that topic 5 seconds ago:

Why 5$? Why do not 10-12$? Many people go to buy Lisk, and forget for some time about popular last month ETH  ;)

5$ for sure whatever comes next depends on new hype/news

ppl are going for lisk, which is at the hype just like the ETH pump before. ETH can go further lower at any time.

This, exactly this.

ETH is such a manipulated market.  Some whales drop in and start a pump and then all the little fish say, ME toooo, I fear missing out!!  Next thing you know the volume soars even more while the original whales start selling.  It still has a long way to go down, I'm sure there will be more pumps along the way to rip the money from silly bad traders

0.00000001 btc.  That's the bottom.   Don't know when it's going to hit it but I suspect it's the target price of a lot of the altcoins.  I'm not sure that eth is as shitty as the rest of them so I may be off by a few orders of magnitude.

https://i.imgur.com/SsaMy7h.png?1
bull trap wrapping up
bag holders will be moving from 'denial' to 'fear'

winter is coming ... long long bear market for $ETH
there will be a bear feast down in the valley of Despair (-$2)

What else could we expect from eth?! Some people was talking aboit eth pumping and dumping but people didn't believe it. Now eth is going down slowly, people are cooling after a big game. I agree that people are looking for new coins to invest and eth looks like forgotten for now. LISK stole attention from eth and I don't believe eth will rise again. Chances for that are very low, but not impossible.

I see some people talk about eth going on 2 $, if eth comes to that point next one is 1 satoshi. I don't believe that ethereum can rise from ashes like a fenix.

Ethereum is a premine and IPO scam. So $0.01

And as every investment this one will be squeezed for Btcs multiple times.
Probably we can expect PnD schemes till end of halving story of Btc. Same will happen and with Lisk.

Since quite a lot of big players are involved in ETH (MS, JP Morgen etc) I suppose ETH will come back again and gain steadily in value...

Around $2-3.  Where cost to mine is slightly lower then the exchange price.  Possibly even lower, leading to a shrinking mining network and POS oblivion..

Come on guys ETH is having a bad week end as most of the altcoins ...

This is how ico functions, at the first we have pump then few days after even better one and everyone stay astonished. But soon after this when plenty of orders are placed, dump will happen. And after this we can see few small PnD but never as was the second!

I'd say somewhere down around 0.015 BTC or about $6 is where it will bottom out, might even touch $5 for a bit. This will scare out most people into giving up and selling their $10 ETH for half price before the slow pump begins again. This will probably happen in fits and starts as they will need to shake out people on both sides, bears and bulls enough first before next pump. This will probably occur over several months and I am sure we won't see returns to previous highs anytime until well after the BTC halving has come and gone.

and 24 hours later you are about to be shown up as not having a clue about calling anything lol.

ETH has risen to fast, so a normal "heavy" correction, nothing more.
Maybe it will go down a little more, but ETH is here to stay and become a large player.

Everyone telling "it's a scam" or something like this, just don't -want- to open their eyes!
Are there really people who thought this would keep rising and rising? Come on, that's not how it works...

I suggest to ignore words of r0ach. He is famous of talking bullshit that he doesn't believe himself as proven in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1414866.msg14339679#msg14339679 and below (he didn't have balls to put money where his mouth was).

Short term bottom: 0.016'ísh

Long term: zero.  I have not seen anything of value created with ethereum.  Only a betting.... ehmm predictionmarket dapp - Augur, which is nothing special in itself.

 

I think we are going to 0.01 and will stay there for some time probaby. But we can still expect pump from project.
 But now is very high risk, so if you considering to invest place orders lower and you can earn on correction..

funny Genesis Mining still charges 4400 USD for a 100 MH , 1 year ETH mining contract , LMFAO

Why not link to the first post so people can read through the entire thread and realize you put up no argument to counter those facts.  It's a permissioned ledger extortion scheme.  I've noticed you've been posting a lot of pro-Eth shilling comments even though it's also an obviously broken system with a similar IPO cash grab.  Is this because you're invested or both Russians?

That my post quotes the OP, so it's enough. You can keep making excuses but I wouldn't pay much for your words now.

I am pretty sure the dip to 0.0176 was the bottom now we will just float around 0.02 for a long time.

It will go lower when BTC will seriously start to pump in the next 5-7 days

Highly possible, let's see how it goes when BTC pump starts.

Will rebound in 5-15 days off .01  probably hit .022 fizzle then slowly drop down over a prolonged bear market before it gets a chance at testing it's true worth again.

*yawns* Still waiting.  ::)

Whales are on vacation i believe, but they can return and surprise us all. This is what i like most,
you can earn many times, only on one coin if you wait. And if you are smart not to listen others.

I am waiting until $ 4-5, and i will buy then sell on $8-9 i think that is more rationable :D

Can you reverse the order? You can borrow the Ethereum and sell at $9. Then you buy back at around $5?

so many people burning theirselves ... when margin calls...

I trade never use margin because that is dangerous, our emotion will become unstable and that will make lost on trading.

Rules in trading: don't let your emotion interfere. That's why when trader open a position, they already know when they will exit, no matter what (down or up).

i can see ethereum be worth at the $10 range and go up and down like a jump rope with the price but i don't see how it can rise up to some high prices like $25+ as OP is suggesting.

SOL  :D ;D

Keep bumping my old topics more thanks!  ::)

Pew pew pew..

http://i67.tinypic.com/2a0m3qh.png

Off by a buck aye.

0.02 look very solid know, i think that is the bottom, not going lower another time after vitalik dump, now it's heading to 0.03