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Title: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: adamstgBit on February 11, 2013, 03:35:07 AM
The time to tell your 'friends' about bitcoin is OVER
Fuck them if they cant understand!
It is now time to get greedy and garb as much coins as you can while you still can...
The US government is "cracking Down" on SR.... they may win this battle, but we all know they will lose the war!
Its almost over!
Time is now!
http://www.bitmit.net/en/img/logo_bitcoin2.png
BUY BUY BUY


....  ;D


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: Rothgar on February 11, 2013, 03:43:14 AM
Did you cover your short Adam?


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: knight22 on February 11, 2013, 03:55:00 AM
What's your source on the cracking down of SR?


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: Rothgar on February 11, 2013, 03:58:24 AM
One guy from Australia got busted at customs.  He bought enough to be a dealer. 


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: zoinky on February 11, 2013, 04:02:36 AM
A dealer getting busted is much different than gaining any more information on the where abouts of DPR or any SR servers.


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: solex on February 11, 2013, 04:04:20 AM
Did you cover your short Adam?

My theory is that Adam was the last person to sell all his coins after the 2011 crash, and made the low $1.994 print.

Still wants the price to come back to $1 so he can load up and double his money!  :)


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: adamstgBit on February 11, 2013, 04:13:53 AM
Did you cover your short Adam?

My theory is that Adam was the last person to sell all his coins after the 2011 crash, and made the low $1.994 print.

Still wants the price to come back to $1 so he can load up and double his money!  :)

lol, no.

first bought at 0.75, 25$ wroth OMG I HATE MYSELF
i sold at 12 and bought back at 13 on the way down.... OPS
then i tripled my holdings at 3
bought more at 5.
sold some at 15 and 12, bought back at 10
sold at 13.50 & 20
now all my play money has been squeezed out and all i have left is paper wallets, a mining fund (HIM), and some coins waiting to jump in S.DICE at 0.005x

that's the jest.. my trading history is about 500 trades... ( did a lot of day trading at one point... scraping profits off the spread  )

its been fun, but now its almost over ;)


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: chriswilmer on February 11, 2013, 04:22:49 AM
What I really like about this thread is the shared frustration of trying to convince friends and family that bitcoin are a good idea. My favorite response so far:

Chris: "Have you heard of bitcoins?"
Friend: "No, I don't play World of Warcraft."



Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: adamstgBit on February 11, 2013, 04:37:39 AM
What I really like about this thread is the shared frustration of trying to convince friends and family that bitcoin are a good idea. My favorite response so far:

Chris: "Have you heard of bitcoins?"
Friend: "No, I don't play World of Warcraft."



i can usually get people to think its interesting, but when it comes down to it, people feel its to risky and "can't afford it".

i did get my GF's grand mother to buy some... shes had been playing around on the stock market... so she understood the high risk high reward aspect... shes sitting on ~20BTC and will NEVER sell, or at least shes been able to hold back from selling so far...  every time i see her i offer to buy them :D


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: lucif on February 11, 2013, 05:35:49 AM
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when will this rally cool down or get a good smack down?
Rally from what $ low?


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: adamstgBit on February 11, 2013, 05:43:37 AM
Quote
when will this rally cool down or get a good smack down?
Rally from what $ low?

2 5 13   ???


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: lucif on February 11, 2013, 06:21:45 AM
Stop point of wave from ~$13 in my oppinition is from $24 to $32. Probably from $24 to $27.


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: byronbb on February 12, 2013, 04:08:55 AM
Would not be surprised to see a run at the so called "all time high" followed by a solid dump designed to trap bears.


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: BIGMERVE on February 12, 2013, 04:43:49 AM
https://i.imgur.com/1v58ZuH.jpg


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: Spaceman_Spiff on February 12, 2013, 04:50:09 AM

haha, hilarious


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: Spaceman_Spiff on February 12, 2013, 04:54:20 AM
first bought at 0.75, 25$ wroth OMG I HATE MYSELF
i sold at 12 and bought back at 13 on the way down.... OPS
then i tripled my holdings at 3
bought more at 5.
sold some at 15 and 12, bought back at 10
sold at 13.50 & 20
now all my play money has been squeezed out and all i have left is paper wallets, a mining fund (HIM), and some coins waiting to jump in S.DICE at 0.005x

that's the jest.. my trading history is about 500 trades... ( did a lot of day trading at one point... scraping profits off the spread  )

its been fun, but now its almost over ;)

Hell, that seems like a good overall ride to me...


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: sublime5447 on February 12, 2013, 04:57:04 AM
What I really like about this thread is the shared frustration of trying to convince friends and family that bitcoin are a good idea. My favorite response so far:

Chris: "Have you heard of bitcoins?"
Friend: "No, I don't play World of Warcraft."


Ya I get that frustration when I first learned about it I loved it, now that I see how it works I wouldn't recommend BTC to close friends or family. I would rather they hold their wealth in tangible assets. Like silver or real-estate.

I did get my dad to set aside some money for LTC though.


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: arepo on February 12, 2013, 11:02:43 AM
http://s11.postimage.org/ihr7qhkoj/chart5.png


the last time we re-entered the overbought (red) after crossing the centerline but not reaching blue, there was a significant correction.


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: cypherdoc on February 12, 2013, 12:20:52 PM
The time to tell your 'friends' about bitcoin is OVER
Fuck them if they cant understand!
It is now time to get greedy and garb as much coins as you can while you still can...
The US government is "cracking Down" on SR.... they may win this battle, but we all know they will lose the war!
Its almost over!
Time is now!
http://www.bitmit.net/en/img/logo_bitcoin2.png
BUY BUY BUY


....  ;D

Methinks you're about to lose it  :P


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: Monster Tent on February 12, 2013, 12:28:19 PM
One guy from Australia got busted at customs.  He bought enough to be a dealer. 

He was an idiot and didnt even try to cover his tracks.


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: Jaques on February 12, 2013, 12:41:19 PM
What's your source on the cracking down of SR?

yeah, source please!


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: Jaques on February 12, 2013, 12:47:36 PM
Would not be surprised to see a run at the so called "all time high" followed by a solid dump designed to trap bears.

that's what i expect, bumpy run-up just a bit above ath and then a big bear-trap ...
fibo-retracements may help to find a good re-entry point then ...


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: paulie_w on February 12, 2013, 01:58:17 PM
agree with the guy with the big text, even if he is totally annoying


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: adamstgBit on February 12, 2013, 05:32:21 PM
95.7% think price will continue to go up
20% think price will reach 1000, b4 it crashes.

lol wonderful!

 ;D


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: cypherdoc on February 12, 2013, 05:36:30 PM
95.7% think price will continue to go up
20% think price will reach 1000, b4 it crashes.

lol wonderful!

 ;D

otoh, you're getting further and further behind.  it'll take an epic crash just for you to get back in under your average selling price.


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: cypherdoc on February 12, 2013, 05:47:03 PM
otoh, you're getting further and further behind.  it'll take an epic crash just for you to get back in under your average selling price.

It is unfortunate that he didn't actually short... just sold some of his own holdings. Feeling the pain of a real short would do him good imo.

i was meaning to comment on that.  it is irritating to hear him say he's "short".

i did read the debate on "short" vs "long" and i know what some mean when they say you're short by virtue of the fact that you're not long. 

but that leaves out another investment term that is often used and that is being "flat".  meaning you don't have any position at all which is what Adam really is.

you're absolutely right, if he was really short, he'd be more than just crying right now.


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: adamstgBit on February 12, 2013, 06:17:33 PM
otoh, you're getting further and further behind.  it'll take an epic crash just for you to get back in under your average selling price.

It is unfortunate that he didn't actually short... just sold some of his own holdings. Feeling the pain of a real short would do him good imo.

i was meaning to comment on that.  it is irritating to hear him say he's "short".

i did read the debate on "short" vs "long" and i know what some mean when they say you're short by virtue of the fact that you're not long.  

but that leaves out another investment term that is often used and that is being "flat".  meaning you don't have any position at all which is what Adam really is.

you're absolutely right, if he was really short, he'd be more than just crying right now.

I sold some, thinking if the market ever takes a turn for the worse, i will have some money to buy in low and reduce my avg price... because i believe in bitcoin, no matter what the price is doing.

whats irritating is hearing that FOR SURE bitcoin will be worth way more next year no matter what happens... its not true... speculative bubble will pop if bitcoin doesn't grow as expected... while alot of people here are blinded by $_$, I put away my emotion long ago, and understand the risk is HUGE! ... and make no mistake... I'm in deep!


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: solex on February 12, 2013, 08:27:57 PM


whats irritating is hearing that FOR SURE bitcoin will be worth way more next year no matter what happens... its not true... speculative bubble will pop if bitcoin doesn't grow as expected... while alot of people here are blinded by $_$, I put away my emotion long ago, and understand the risk is HUGE! ... and make no mistake... I'm in deep!

It is good to know that you still have a healthy holding.
I only found out about bitcoin in Dec 2012. It was Christmas eve and I was looking for a card and saw a mag with a bitcoin on the cover. Didn't even buy it, just made a mental note to research it. Fortunately I was able to load up in early Jan.

There will come a time (which might already be here) where early adopters who got in at a low average price, will never improve on that average price. Like those who bought Apple shares at $20. So the only continuing options are to just sit back and enjoy the ride, or to increase one's holding during significant dips.


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: sublime5447 on February 12, 2013, 08:47:38 PM
otoh, you're getting further and further behind.  it'll take an epic crash just for you to get back in under your average selling price.

It is unfortunate that he didn't actually short... just sold some of his own holdings. Feeling the pain of a real short would do him good imo.

i was meaning to comment on that.  it is irritating to hear him say he's "short".

i did read the debate on "short" vs "long" and i know what some mean when they say you're short by virtue of the fact that you're not long.  

but that leaves out another investment term that is often used and that is being "flat".  meaning you don't have any position at all which is what Adam really is.

you're absolutely right, if he was really short, he'd be more than just crying right now.

I sold some, thinking if the market ever takes a turn for the worse, i will have some money to buy in low and reduce my avg price... because i believe in bitcoin, no matter what the price is doing.

whats irritating is hearing that FOR SURE bitcoin will be worth way more next year no matter what happens... its not true... speculative bubble will pop if bitcoin doesn't grow as expected... while alot of people here are blinded by $_$, I put away my emotion long ago, and understand the risk is HUGE! ... and make no mistake... I'm in deep!

You are smarter than the rest, so much blind faith around here. The risk is huge and this thing is coming right back down. 27-31 would be my guess. Of course it can go higher there is no telling how long people will believe a lie. If you are in truly deep like you say I would think about selling soon. Just my 2 cent.

It is going to be hard to time the top. There will be lots of crying soon. First denial the accepted then hissy fits.

I believe in the idea of btc ( it is truly a beautiful idea) I just dont like the execution. It needs stable, real, market, pricing and it needs to be treated as currency not a commodity. I will say it one more time BTC is in a bubble the price is way out of line.


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: piramida on February 12, 2013, 10:16:36 PM
It needs stable, real, market, pricing and it needs to be treated as currency not a commodity. I will say it one more time BTC is in a bubble the price is way out of line.

Yeah, preferably centrally governed, right? Welcome to the actual free market, stop jumping to silly conclusions, just observe if you are not participating.


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: sublime5447 on February 12, 2013, 10:51:06 PM
It needs stable, real, market, pricing and it needs to be treated as currency not a commodity. I will say it one more time BTC is in a bubble the price is way out of line.

Yeah, preferably centrally governed, right? Welcome to the actual free market, stop jumping to silly conclusions, just observe if you are not participating.

I participate. I Sell btc and yes I am for the free market. Btc is not a free market it is a manipulated market. BTC temporarily enjoys a monopoly, that will change. The same people who cry about the gold and silver manipulation are manipulating the btc market. Soon... It will crash soon. And we will see who is not participating. I am in digital currency for completely different reasons that the community on a whole. I am in it because I believe in it can be a force for good for all the world. I am so crazy I think it can topple government, financial industries and stop war (very crazy I know). Most of this community doesnt know their ass form a hole in the ground and are in it because they are greedy, selfish, speculators. I am in it to change the world whether or not make a ton of money.
BTC is a free market you cant even get f!@#ing BTC.     


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: Herodes on February 12, 2013, 10:53:36 PM
Most of this community doesnt know their ass form a hole in the ground and are in it because they are greedy, selfish, speculators.

Hehe, experience told me that if you start pointing a finger, then you will soon have 3 fingers pointed at you. :)


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: Crypt_Current on February 12, 2013, 11:01:33 PM
Time is now!  Garb as much as possible!  Then afterword, everyone just clam down.


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: notme on February 12, 2013, 11:12:55 PM
It needs stable, real, market, pricing and it needs to be treated as currency not a commodity. I will say it one more time BTC is in a bubble the price is way out of line.

Yeah, preferably centrally governed, right? Welcome to the actual free market, stop jumping to silly conclusions, just observe if you are not participating.

I participate. I Sell btc and yes I am for the free market. Btc is not a free market it is a manipulated market. BTC temporarily enjoys a monopoly, that will change. The same people who cry about the gold and silver manipulation are manipulating the btc market. Soon... It will crash soon. And we will see who is not participating. I am in digital currency for completely different reasons that the community on a whole. I am in it because I believe in it can be a force for good for all the world. I am so crazy I think it can topple government, financial industries and stop war (very crazy I know). Most of this community doesnt know their ass form a hole in the ground and are in it because they are greedy, selfish, speculators. I am in it to change the world whether or not make a ton of money.
BTC is a free market you cant even get f!@#ing BTC.     

And there it is.  Now that I know where you stand I can relate to most of your frustration with the bitcoin community.

I'm just not sure why the infrastructure is giving you such trouble.  I have been here for quite some time so it seems easier than fiat banking to me.  I would be interested in hearing some constructive ideas on how those of us that can build these things can make it easier for nontechnical users.


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: piramida on February 12, 2013, 11:26:24 PM
It is already becoming too simple. my non-techie friends in various parts of the world bought coins with no hand-holding in a matter of hours (first time), given a link to a local exchange. It for sure is an order of magnitude simpler than getting a bank account.


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: adamstgBit on February 13, 2013, 12:11:37 AM


whats irritating is hearing that FOR SURE bitcoin will be worth way more next year no matter what happens... its not true... speculative bubble will pop if bitcoin doesn't grow as expected... while alot of people here are blinded by $_$, I put away my emotion long ago, and understand the risk is HUGE! ... and make no mistake... I'm in deep!

It is good to know that you still have a healthy holding.
I only found out about bitcoin in Dec 2012. It was Christmas eve and I was looking for a card and saw a mag with a bitcoin on the cover. Didn't even buy it, just made a mental note to research it. Fortunately I was able to load up in early Jan.

There will come a time (which might already be here) where early adopters who got in at a low average price, will never improve on that average price. Like those who bought Apple shares at $20. So the only continuing options are to just sit back and enjoy the ride, or to increase one's holding during significant dips.

I agree with you,
I'm just hoping for the best, while preparing for the worst...


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: vssa on February 13, 2013, 07:05:09 AM
The time to tell your 'friends' about bitcoin is OVER
Fuck them if they cant understand!
It is now time to get greedy and garb as much coins as you can while you still can...
The US government is "cracking Down" on SR.... they may win this battle, but we all know they will lose the war!
Its almost over!
Time is now!
http://www.bitmit.net/en/img/logo_bitcoin2.png
BUY BUY BUY


....  ;D

Who is selling?(lol, this kind of buying enthusiasm is my q to sell  :o )
Not bad for those who bought big amounts at 2-4 USD;

http://www.btcwallet.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/bitsell.png

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131065.700;topicseen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131065.700;topicseen)


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: arepo on February 14, 2013, 01:52:29 AM
http://s11.postimage.org/ihr7qhkoj/chart5.png


the last time we re-entered the overbought (red) after crossing the centerline but not reaching blue, there was a significant correction.

you were warned.

http://s8.postimage.org/y6ge87yg5/stochrsi_bulltrap.png


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: humanitee on February 14, 2013, 01:54:51 AM
http://s11.postimage.org/ihr7qhkoj/chart5.png


the last time we re-entered the overbought (red) after crossing the centerline but not reaching blue, there was a significant correction.

you were warned.

http://s8.postimage.org/y6ge87yg5/stochrsi_bulltrap.png

Man, we corrected a day of gains. You are such a prophet.


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: arepo on February 14, 2013, 01:58:32 AM
Man, we corrected a day of gains. You aregot such a prophetprofit.

i guess you didnt have your bids in position? :P

i don't think you'd be complaining.

plus, the knife reached almost to $21. thats a lot more than a few days' gain.

edited


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: humanitee on February 14, 2013, 02:01:22 AM
Man, we corrected a day of gains. You are such a prophetfit.

i guess you didnt have your bids in position? :P

i don't think you'd be complaining.

plus, the knife reached almost to $21. thats a lot more than a few days' gain.

Lol, nice play on words.

I'm not selling until we pass the all time high. I think if ever there would be a time for a correction, it'll be there. Last stand of the bears for a while.
My GA's were saying sell but I don't believe anything in a bull market this strong.

If you caught the bottom, I'm happy for you! I wouldn't call this a "correction" though.


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: arepo on February 14, 2013, 02:16:31 AM
the knife signals the correction. the knife itself is just profit-taking/panic-selling, yes.


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: humanitee on February 14, 2013, 02:19:09 AM
Call it whatever you want.

It bounced down for like 15 minutes.


Title: Re: [poll] - when will the rally end?
Post by: CurbsideProphet on February 14, 2013, 02:40:45 AM
Man, we corrected a day of gains. You are such a prophet.

Hey, we're all stocked up on those!  ;)