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Title: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: alyssa85 on April 11, 2016, 01:40:18 PM
http://bitcoinist.net/bitcoin-and-divorce-a-match-made-in-heaven/

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There appears to be a new weapon in the battle for divorce by vindictive estranged partners: bitcoin. Yes, it turns out that bitcoin is causing a bit of a stir in the legal community. In many countries wealth isn’t divided equally based on how much a person earns, but how much is contributed to the marriage. An example of this is a man with a hefty income and a wife who acts as a housewife who raises the kids and does the housework – a feminist’s nightmare, but sadly a situation that is still prevalent in today’s society – will be entitled to equal funds as it’s considered by the judge that they have both contributed evenly to the marriage: his funds and her time and effort in raising kids and keeping a house. This has led some desperate men (and women) to seek ways to hide their money and that is where bitcoin has stepped in.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: knowhow on April 11, 2016, 02:00:00 PM
Well never thinked about it but how to hide money into bitcoin without the wife knows lol,usually they know your payment ammount if something isnt there she will ask where it is.I dont mind to share with my wife she knows i have some bitcoin but that doesnt mean she will want them,but well sure if a divorce happens she can ask for it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: lumeire on April 11, 2016, 02:01:34 PM
Today hiding from money from your wife, tomorrow money laundering.  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: tobacco123 on April 11, 2016, 02:13:33 PM
This is really not the right way to use bitcoin. This will only make bitcoin a bad currency with prevent the mainstream adoption.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: SFR10 on April 11, 2016, 02:31:54 PM
I doubt this is actually applicable since nowadays, they monitor all the income (at least in my country) and even if someone decides to hide all of his wealth into BTCitcoin, there will still be evidence of his/her earnings left for judges to check. The only way is as if someone earns BTCitcoin directly, without anyone noticing it (and if the government he is in, doesn't ask as well).


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: DimensionZ on April 11, 2016, 03:40:41 PM
This is a very smart way to conceal what money you are making from your partner. Of course people who receive salaries from government jobs can't apply to this but people who are self-employed or own a private business can very easily hide most of their cash online if they give their accountants false data.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: SpanishSoldier on April 11, 2016, 03:56:07 PM
Today hiding from money from your wife, tomorrow money laundering.  ;D
I think, there are brighter aspects we should discuss about.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: Denker on April 11, 2016, 03:59:40 PM
Yes ok Bitcoin can be used to hide wealth from your wife. :D
Ever heard of marriage contract? A good made and fair contract and there will be no issues after divorce!


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on April 11, 2016, 04:13:17 PM
Haha brilliant! Sounds like a great idea to hide savings, stocks etc that the wife may be aware of. I wonder how many people have done or are planning to do this?



Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: gabmen on April 11, 2016, 04:20:29 PM
Haha brilliant! Sounds like a great idea to hide savings, stocks etc that the wife may be aware of. I wonder how many people have done or are planning to do this?


to be honest with you I'm in right now I'm buying bitcoin w/out my wife knowledge hahaha, so when she checked my bank account or wallet she won't see anything and I'm doing trading right now and earning from it by doing buy and sell alt hahaha. what a brilliant idea OP.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: Kprawn on April 11, 2016, 04:27:34 PM
What they not saying is... once the court determine that the kids have to stay with the ex-wife, she use the sympathy of the burden to look after the kids as a excuse to milk the

ex-husband. Some of these husbands can hardly make a living, because the wife is taking huge chunks from his pension and his salary. If they cannot get more money for the kids,

the milk the medical funds and claim for more benefits than the medical fund provide and then the husband has to pay for that. I will do the same, if I had to go through a divorce

and then wait until the kids are out of her house and then give the money to them. It is survival.. not necessity to put kids in private schools and you know you cannot afford it. 


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: BellaBitBit on April 11, 2016, 05:00:55 PM
Today hiding from money from your wife, tomorrow money laundering.  ;D

Dying laughing here!


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: ptcmadam@yahoo.com on April 11, 2016, 05:06:30 PM
Really laughing  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: defined on April 11, 2016, 05:20:14 PM
You can do the same using paper money. Hiding money from your spouse can also be in gold, paintings, boats, or anything else that has value. Using bitcoin is only a new method to do the same thing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: AtheistAKASaneBrain on April 11, 2016, 05:21:33 PM
Actually this could settle a lot of problems and solve the issues of a divorce thanks to smart contracts, it would be clearly stated in the contract just in case you get divorced, so the money will do exactly what the contract says approved by both parties.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: Slowturtleinc on April 11, 2016, 05:53:27 PM
There are plenty of legit ways to hide money with the right lawyer,its the every day guy that does not expect the divorce coming and by the percentages thats most of us dudes.
Bitcoin could be considered a rainy day savings for when you get your ass ripped out in a divorce for sure.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: countryfree on April 11, 2016, 06:23:13 PM
It's a pretty sad way to use BTC but I'm not surprised. If you can use BTC to hide money from governments, you can also use it to hide money from your wife.

You tell your wife you've lost money playing poker with friends, but you buy BTC anonymously via Localbitcoins instead...
(Those who didn't know how to do it can send me a tip. I've always been good at hiding money.)


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: BitcoinSupremo on April 11, 2016, 07:57:02 PM
Haha brilliant! Sounds like a great idea to hide savings, stocks etc that the wife may be aware of. I wonder how many people have done or are planning to do this?



Well I am regularly doing it, although I don't have a husband yet :) but yeah I hide my earnings in Bitcoin in case one distant day the government will be after me (hopefully this will never happen) but a husband is an opportunity so better safe than sorry.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: Junko on April 11, 2016, 09:08:02 PM
Haha brilliant! Sounds like a great idea to hide savings, stocks etc that the wife may be aware of. I wonder how many people have done or are planning to do this?



Well I am regularly doing it, although I don't have a husband yet :) but yeah I hide my earnings in Bitcoin in case one distant day the government will be after me (hopefully this will never happen) but a husband is an opportunity so better safe than sorry.

Yes! It's never too early to start squirreling away monies and hiding it from your future spouse. You'll thank yourself later. You may think I'm just being facetious, but I am not. I'm not married, nor do I plan on getting married anytime in the near future, but after seeing what a good friend of mine has been going through with his marriage, I'm thinking this might be a good idea.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: BitcoinBlackjack on April 11, 2016, 09:15:49 PM
You can do the same using paper money. Hiding money from your spouse can also be in gold, paintings, boats, or anything else that has value. Using bitcoin is only a new method to do the same thing.

This is true. And bitcoin is definitely a new tool in hiding money from someone including your spouse


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: Slowturtleinc on April 11, 2016, 09:21:32 PM
Lets face it equality is still not on par and the husband is expected to pick up the slack. How many ladies are shacked up but refuse to get remarried because they may lose their ex's monthly payments.
Something has to balance out the system and you talk to to many guys paying out to see all the money going into a car and the kids getting nothing. Being raised by a single mother I know those payments would have helped but he claimed to have snorted his house up his nose and thats how he got around ever paying out.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: Wapinter on April 11, 2016, 09:22:20 PM
The courts can ask to make a declaration that no party has any hidden bitcoins and if they later found to posses some,they will be punished ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: alyssa85 on April 11, 2016, 10:08:12 PM
Don't do this if you have children guys! Every man has a responsibility to make sure his kids are fed and clothed and educated and do him proud as they turn into fine adults.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: --Encrypted-- on April 11, 2016, 10:13:24 PM
Don't do this if you have children guys! Every man has a responsibility to make sure his kids are fed and clothed and educated and do him proud as they turn into fine adults.

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Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: Slowturtleinc on April 11, 2016, 11:11:34 PM
Don't do this if you have children guys! Every man has a responsibility to make sure his kids are fed and clothed and educated and do him proud as they turn into fine adults.

Thats a blanket statement though,every one wants kids to have a great upbringing and have no issues. It kind of falls into the same thinking that people should stay together for the kids. Its a nice idea but not practical on a real level. This is not a attack on women either because men are now falling into this dubious activity of living off their ex as the wage gap equals out and women potentially move past with their higher odds at higher education.
My dad my 1-2 payments life time but was able to record 3 conversations on the phone to stay in the Country and not be deported. He made contact after that only on his dying bed so I think I know a little about not having that significant parent in the picture. It sucks but I also see the flip side of guys that could not keep their pecker in their pants and have multiple kids with multiple women or the guy that made more money when they seperated but now makes far less and still has to make those same lump sums. Its a messed up system and the emotional aspect of kids bites into the issue.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: gentlemand on April 11, 2016, 11:17:11 PM
And with a teeny tiny amount of sniffing around they can find your sending tons of money to Bitcoin exchanges. That's unless you're taking out mounds of cash and meeting sweaty men in coffee shops for months on end.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: knowhow on April 12, 2016, 12:10:50 AM
This dont affect the bitcoin at all,since its one use of bitcoin hide or protect your money at bitcoin avoiding governements and banks to control it,soo its just an extra option to use and not to follow.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: Evildrum on April 12, 2016, 02:00:29 AM
This dont affect the bitcoin at all,since its one use of bitcoin hide or protect your money at bitcoin avoiding governements and banks to control it,soo its just an extra option to use and not to follow.

Can you be more non commited to the topic, why bother posting crap like this? You brought nothing to the discussion.
And with a teeny tiny amount of sniffing around they can find your sending tons of money to Bitcoin exchanges. That's unless you're taking out mounds of cash and meeting sweaty men in coffee shops for months on end.

You got something against sweaty men?
Its easy create a conpany that you pay a set anount with invoices. Once money is sent to account, take it out by bitcoin. You can pile the cash for once a year meet up or be lucky to have btc atms around your way.
A famous hockey player moved to the tropics till his kid was 18 and he no longer needed to pay. Not cool but lots of ways to dodge the system.



Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: Kakmakr on April 12, 2016, 06:16:03 AM
Don't do this if you have children guys! Every man has a responsibility to make sure his kids are fed and clothed and educated and do him proud as they turn into fine adults.

You can still feed your kids and give them a good education, without your wife living in luxury. Some of these women see this as a free lunch and a opportunity not to work. They become ladies of leisure on their previous husbands expense.

They also use their children for leverage to get more money and are running to court every time he gets a bonus or a increase. As one of the previous posters have said, Bitcoin is not the only method to hide money from your spouse and this is not to say that only husbands can do this. The woman can also hide money from their husbands. ^smile^

I agree, look after your kids and spoil them, but do not allow your ex to spoil your life. After all you are not married anymore.   


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: cluit on April 12, 2016, 06:18:27 AM
Using different wallets may give some favor in hiding money from your spouse and thus saving it for your future.  If your spouse comes to know about it, it could result in divorce and they will claim that Divorce is due to bitcoins.  ??? ???


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: vrm86 on April 12, 2016, 07:26:19 AM
You can do the same using paper money. Hiding money from your spouse can also be in gold, paintings, boats, or anything else that has value. Using bitcoin is only a new method to do the same thing.

This is true. And bitcoin is definitely a new tool in hiding money from someone including your spouse

I would say, that cash is more reliable in that purpose, as bitcoin is still quite volatile. What if someone successfully hides his money from his wife, but BTC market price fluctuations will just take everything  :D ?


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: freshman777 on April 12, 2016, 07:45:06 AM
Staying out of marriage saves you from many a trouble, you don't have to marry to bang a pussy.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: pereira4 on April 12, 2016, 12:36:33 PM
This dont affect the bitcoin at all,since its one use of bitcoin hide or protect your money at bitcoin avoiding governements and banks to control it,soo its just an extra option to use and not to follow.

Can you be more non commited to the topic, why bother posting crap like this? You brought nothing to the discussion.
And with a teeny tiny amount of sniffing around they can find your sending tons of money to Bitcoin exchanges. That's unless you're taking out mounds of cash and meeting sweaty men in coffee shops for months on end.

You got something against sweaty men?
Its easy create a conpany that you pay a set anount with invoices. Once money is sent to account, take it out by bitcoin. You can pile the cash for once a year meet up or be lucky to have btc atms around your way.
A famous hockey player moved to the tropics till his kid was 18 and he no longer needed to pay. Not cool but lots of ways to dodge the system.



That's freaking crazy, having to resort to living some remote place filled with nasty mosquitoes just to avoid alimony specially as a rick hockey player? why not just pay and get done with it.
And even if you wanted to do that, normal people doesn't have the resources to move somewhere. You can't compare a rich athlete with tons of options with the average worker.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: gentlemand on April 12, 2016, 12:43:35 PM

You got something against sweaty men?

A famous hockey player moved to the tropics till his kid was 18 and he no longer needed to pay. Not cool but lots of ways to dodge the system.


Yes. I'm one of them myself.

That hockey player tale is loathsome. He chose to insert his winkle into a feminoid. She sure as shit didn't have the option of running away and skanking him.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. The only way I'd have kids is with a friendly lesbian and I knew I was terminally ill.



Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: defined on April 12, 2016, 01:05:06 PM
This is true. And bitcoin is definitely a new tool in hiding money from someone including your spouse
How about international travel? You have to declare any cash above $10000 when you fly to the USA for example. And you can have a very small wallet hidden anywhere in your phone, laptop or back pocket containing much more money.
Do you now have to declare the bitcoins you have on your laptop when you travel?


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: gentlemand on April 12, 2016, 01:16:48 PM

How about international travel? You have to declare any cash above $10000 when you fly to the USA for example. And you can have a very small wallet hidden anywhere in your phone, laptop or back pocket containing much more money.
Do you now have to declare the bitcoins you have on your laptop when you travel?

Bitcoin isn't cash.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: nielaminda on April 12, 2016, 01:24:19 PM
Don't do this if you have children guys! Every man has a responsibility to make sure his kids are fed and clothed and educated and do him proud as they turn into fine adults.

Having a divorce doesnt mean that you will not be responsible you just need to take of the weight on your shoulder that your spouse is giving you so that you can live a happy life.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: lanmao on April 14, 2016, 06:10:30 PM
BTC is innocent.
Using the same tool , different people used have different effects




Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: Slowturtleinc on April 14, 2016, 08:02:22 PM
Its usually the women that end the marriage legally what the guy did or didnt do aside, it means they have recieved legal counsel.
Thats important because their ducks are usually all in a row when the divorce starts for both parties.
A potential slush fund is a way to protect yourself from being homeless. Guys end up tossed from the house by the law by women claiming threats or they move out on their own, which is a big nono for getting your fair share.
Its a tricky world and love is blind, support bitcoin! ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: Patatas on April 14, 2016, 09:16:59 PM
I still don't understand how bitcoin changes the situations anyway.The articles is based on gender inequality,emphasizes more on men and women powers using the terms such as "feminist".Assuming men wanted to save the money hiding from their wives,there already exists a number of way to do that before bitcoins came into picture.Simple example would be an alternate savings accounts.Agree that bitcoin has changed the game but not for long until it becomes very popular at a level where wives' would keep the private keys of their husband's wallets!  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: freshman777 on April 14, 2016, 09:35:46 PM
Now all we got to do is make this information public to husbands of the world for Bitcoin to go to the moon. I'll personally inform a few of my married friends of this option.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: Evildrum on April 15, 2016, 05:49:10 PM
I still don't understand how bitcoin changes the situations anyway.The articles is based on gender inequality,emphasizes more on men and women powers using the terms such as "feminist".Assuming men wanted to save the money hiding from their wives,there already exists a number of way to do that before bitcoins came into picture.Simple example would be an alternate savings accounts.Agree that bitcoin has changed the game but not for long until it becomes very popular at a level where wives' would keep the private keys of their husband's wallets!  ;D

Its really amazing how many guys work all week and hand the cheque over to wifey and let her spend it as she wants.
Always get a kick out of the ones that allow their wives to dress them and bust a gut when I see them wearing identical jackets. Will never forget being out with some buddies after work,work guys! We where sitting at the bar and his phone kept ringing because he was not on his way home. Next thing you know she had driven all the way downtown and was standing over him telling him he would have to find somewhere else to sleep tonight and she took his car keys and left.
He went on a tear and ended up at a dive bar,waking up in the alley still drunk. So she taught him a lesson I guess.
Still got her standing there in a huff till he noticed she was there,talk about drama I do not need in my life.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: defined on April 15, 2016, 06:00:11 PM
I'll personally inform a few of my married friends of this option.
You want to sell them bitcoins and take their wife?


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: Slowturtleinc on April 15, 2016, 08:21:04 PM
Courts are changing but not fast enough to make a fair and balance playing field in the court of law.
Till both parties have equal representation and rights we really should be looking for alternatives to hide money away in a divorce.
If she gets the house and you get the car,guess where you are living?


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: nanonymousx on April 16, 2016, 05:42:44 AM
Courts is asking all assets, including bitcoins/litecoins and so on. Converting wealth into bitcoin is a fact hiding asset from court, I don't see why this is helpful.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: Evildrum on April 16, 2016, 06:30:53 PM
Courts is asking all assets, including bitcoins/litecoins and so on. Converting wealth into bitcoin is a fact hiding asset from court, I don't see why this is helpful.

The courts would need to know you had bitcoin in the first place and the only way they know that is through the person divorcing you. So if you keep a slush fund say 3 months pay in bitcoin and she/he does not know,no harm.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: kanazawa on April 18, 2016, 01:52:18 AM
Well.. Women (usualy) won't give a damn to "new" things.. I don't think it's bad at all, but sometime you need to get in the bar really heavy to talk shit to someone... That"s where come friends,etc.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and Divorce: A Match Made in Heaven?
Post by: DimensionZ on April 18, 2016, 05:10:42 AM
If your wife doesn't know that you were keeping a Bitcoin wallet somewhere I don't know how her lawyer or the court would be aware of that if there are no records of money going there. Maybe if she hired a detective to investigate into your financials or something you could be caught red-handed but I highly doubt it.