Title: Best online wallet for EUR->BTC and instant send Post by: pythonimus on April 13, 2016, 11:13:31 AM Hi,
whats the best online wallet which has a balance in EUR and where you can buy BTC instantly and also send it right away. I'm doing mostly "mini" transactions from 1€-10€ and don't want to keep BTC or any other fiat currency except EUR. Now I'm using uphold, where I can deposit EUR, then buy BTC and send it to a BTC address. This service is nearly perfect except the mining fee I HAVE TO PAY is as high as 0,2€ (0.0005BTC) on any transaction... Coinbase is not available in Germany and Circle converts all deposited EUR in USD/BTC... Is there a service like Uphold which does not force you to pay the full 0.0005BTC on any transaction? Thanks! Title: Re: Best online wallet for EUR->BTC and instant send Post by: LTU_btc on April 13, 2016, 01:43:28 PM Hi, You can try Spectrocoin.ccom wallet, they accepts this currencies: USD, GBP, EUR, RON, PLN, CZK, GEL, BTC. https://spectrocoin.com (https://spectrocoin.com)whats the best online wallet which has a balance in EUR and where you can buy BTC instantly and also send it right away. I'm doing mostly "mini" transactions from 1€-10€ and don't want to keep BTC or any other fiat currency except EUR. Now I'm using uphold, where I can deposit EUR, then buy BTC and send it to a BTC address. This service is nearly perfect except the mining fee I HAVE TO PAY is as high as 0,2€ (0.0005BTC) on any transaction... Coinbase is not available in Germany and Circle converts all deposited EUR in USD/BTC... Is there a service like Uphold which does not force you to pay the full 0.0005BTC on any transaction? Thanks! Title: Re: Best online wallet for EUR->BTC and instant send Post by: Shibashi Dogemoto on April 13, 2016, 01:48:49 PM Hi, whats the best online wallet which has a balance in EUR and where you can buy BTC instantly and also send it right away. I'm doing mostly "mini" transactions from 1€-10€ and don't want to keep BTC or any other fiat currency except EUR. Now I'm using uphold, where I can deposit EUR, then buy BTC and send it to a BTC address. This service is nearly perfect except the mining fee I HAVE TO PAY is as high as 0,2€ (0.0005BTC) on any transaction... Coinbase is not available in Germany and Circle converts all deposited EUR in USD/BTC... Is there a service like Uphold which does not force you to pay the full 0.0005BTC on any transaction? Thanks! I see you have already discarded circle because they convert your deposited EUR in BTC, but why should that be a problem? They convert your FIAT into BTC, and that's the whole point... The fact that they show the amount of USD at current conversion rate is merely a GUI-"problem". When you want to buy something using BTC, the ammount due is almost always shown directly in BTC at the payment page, so as long as your circle account shows the amount of BTC you should be OK. Or am i missing something? Disclaimer: i have a circle-account, but i've never purchased bitcoins using circle myself... Maybe there's something i'm missing here... Title: Re: Best online wallet for EUR->BTC and instant send Post by: aleandromagno on April 13, 2016, 02:04:36 PM I think the best and the most safe is Coinbase now. You must just check if your country is supported: www.coinbase.com
Title: Re: Best online wallet for EUR->BTC and instant send Post by: LTU_btc on April 13, 2016, 06:05:26 PM I think the best and the most safe is Coinbase now. You must just check if your country is supported: www.coinbase.com He said that Coinbase is not available in Germany.Title: Re: Best online wallet for EUR->BTC and instant send Post by: Olaf on April 13, 2016, 06:09:56 PM Well every tx id needs to add on a miners fee.
OR else you`ll wait forever for your block to be found and have zero confirmation time. I was about to mention about bitcoin debit cards, but not sure it`ll help since you need btc to start with.. Title: Re: Best online wallet for EUR->BTC and instant send Post by: aleandromagno on April 13, 2016, 06:56:33 PM I think the best and the most safe is Coinbase now. You must just check if your country is supported: www.coinbase.com He said that Coinbase is not available in Germany.Sorry, i miss it! But what a surprise that is not available in Germany!! :o Then try https://cryptopay.me - you can make SEPA EUR deposits (USD, GBP and BTC as well) here they still make plastic debit cards giveaway: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1384807.0 Title: Re: Best online wallet for EUR->BTC and instant send Post by: pythonimus on April 13, 2016, 08:43:16 PM I see you have already discarded circle because they convert your deposited EUR in BTC, but why should that be a problem? They convert your FIAT into BTC, and that's the whole point... The fact that they show the amount of USD at current conversion rate is merely a GUI-"problem". When you want to buy something using BTC, the ammount due is almost always shown directly in BTC at the payment page, so as long as your circle account shows the amount of BTC you should be OK. Or am i missing something? Disclaimer: i have a circle-account, but i've never purchased bitcoins using circle myself... Maybe there's something i'm missing here... Most things I pay with BTC are in EUR. If the price is X€ the merchant will tell me the price in BTC and I will buy BTC for X€. I dont want the EUR/BTC, USD/BTC and EUR/USD fluctuations in these transactions. You can try Spectrocoin.ccom wallet, they accepts this currencies: USD, GBP, EUR, RON, PLN, CZK, GEL, BTC. https://spectrocoin.com (https://spectrocoin.com) What are the fees there? Is this "Transfer from SpectroCoin wallet to any bitcoin wallet"-fee in addition to the miners fee? Well every tx id needs to add on a miners fee. OR else you`ll wait forever for your block to be found and have zero confirmation time. I was about to mention about bitcoin debit cards, but not sure it`ll help since you need btc to start with.. Yes, but not 0.0005BTC for every transaction. Sorry, i miss it! But what a surprise that is not available in Germany!! :o Then try https://cryptopay.me - you can make SEPA EUR deposits (USD, GBP and BTC as well) here they still make plastic debit cards giveaway: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1384807.0 Cannot find anything about exchange fees or fees while sending BTC. Are there any? Title: Re: Best online wallet for EUR->BTC and instant send Post by: aleandromagno on April 13, 2016, 09:28:14 PM Sorry, i miss it! But what a surprise that is not available in Germany!! :o Then try https://cryptopay.me - you can make SEPA EUR deposits (USD, GBP and BTC as well) here they still make plastic debit cards giveaway: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1384807.0 Cannot find anything about exchange fees or fees while sending BTC. Are there any? You can find all fees here - https://cryptopay.me/bitcoin-debit-card (scroll down) For sure there is no fee for deposit BTC. Title: Re: Best online wallet for EUR->BTC and instant send Post by: equator on April 13, 2016, 10:04:56 PM If you want to buy in Euro-Btc and send it to your wallet address, then you can try with coinbase.com site as their are some users who are dealing in Euro payment also. Other then that i dont know much about the online exchanges as mostly i have seen they are having only USD and what you said like the transaction fee is high.
Title: Re: Best online wallet for EUR->BTC and instant send Post by: btccashacc on April 13, 2016, 11:51:11 PM hi there why not to try https://spectrocoin.com they support many curencies including eur, i've got free virtual credit card from them and balance in eur, you can request the debit card so you can cashout your money anytime you want
Title: Re: Best online wallet for EUR->BTC and instant send Post by: pythonimus on April 18, 2016, 03:04:46 PM Seems like https://cryptopay.me is the best way to go for me.
Although it is not perfect. Pro:
Con:
All in all its still cheaper than uphold for small transactions: Uphold: 3,01€ + 0,19 miners fee = 3,20€ Cryptopay: 3,04€ + 0,03€ overpay + 0,03€ fees = 3,10€ Title: Re: Best online wallet for EUR->BTC and instant send Post by: pythonimus on July 08, 2016, 01:39:47 PM Its getting worse and worse...
Upholds mining/network fee is now at 0.3€!!! And Cryptopays bad exchange rate + overpay sums up to 0.2€ (+0.03€ exchange fee)... With this, I can just switch back and pay creditcard or paypal fees... Title: Re: Best online wallet for EUR->BTC and instant send Post by: fiscorcle on July 09, 2016, 02:39:20 PM it would be probably hard to find one service with all features you desire unless you want to hold your bitcoins on exchange, maybe you should use more services and use the good features of each.
selling bitcoins: xapo for sending BTC without fees to Bitonic.nl -> sepa buying bitcoins: iDeal/MisterCash/Mybank -> Bitonic.nl -> xapo Title: Re: Best online wallet for EUR->BTC and instant send Post by: aleandromagno on July 09, 2016, 08:27:44 PM it would be probably hard to find one service with all features you desire unless you want to hold your bitcoins on exchange, maybe you should use more services and use the good features of each. selling bitcoins: xapo for sending BTC without fees to Bitonic.nl -> sepa buying bitcoins: iDeal/MisterCash/Mybank -> Bitonic.nl -> xapo Probably only combination of services will be good for you ^^ But one more word about cryptopay.me - I use their Bitcoin address like a mixer. Everytime i can generate new address to deposit, and when I'm sending Bitcoin from cryptopay wallet (is free, i mean withdrawing is without fee) and already is mixed ;) Title: Re: Best online wallet for EUR->BTC and instant send Post by: fiscorcle on July 10, 2016, 12:20:00 AM it would be probably hard to find one service with all features you desire unless you want to hold your bitcoins on exchange, maybe you should use more services and use the good features of each. selling bitcoins: xapo for sending BTC without fees to Bitonic.nl -> sepa buying bitcoins: iDeal/MisterCash/Mybank -> Bitonic.nl -> xapo Probably only combination of services will be good for you ^^ But one more word about cryptopay.me - I use their Bitcoin address like a mixer. Everytime i can generate new address to deposit, and when I'm sending Bitcoin from cryptopay wallet (is free, i mean withdrawing is without fee) and already is mixed ;) Title: Re: Best online wallet for EUR->BTC and instant send Post by: Newcoins2020 on July 13, 2016, 09:45:12 PM it would be probably hard to find one service with all features you desire unless you want to hold your bitcoins on exchange, maybe you should use more services and use the good features of each. selling bitcoins: xapo for sending BTC without fees to Bitonic.nl -> sepa buying bitcoins: iDeal/MisterCash/Mybank -> Bitonic.nl -> xapo Probably only combination of services will be good for you ^^ But one more word about cryptopay.me - I use their Bitcoin address like a mixer. Everytime i can generate new address to deposit, and when I'm sending Bitcoin from cryptopay wallet (is free, i mean withdrawing is without fee) and already is mixed ;) I've tried bitonic a while ago but the fees are quite high. They get their price from kraken so if you have an account there it's cheaper and easier. Title: Re: Best online wallet for EUR->BTC and instant send Post by: imissyou on August 11, 2016, 07:41:10 PM your mean market placed exchanger or wallet
is support Fiat money is i think exchanger is the best market placed exchanger kraken but not instant send maybe your must seach equal xapo wallet is reputable wallet and support exchange advcash you can try but not instant send and not wallet |