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Title: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: hl5460 on April 14, 2016, 10:22:49 AM
Gavin Andresen will do an AMA on 8btc, 19PM(GMT+8), 21st April

https://i.imgur.com/doZ2FVd.jpg


Please leave your questions in the following link. (English question will be translated into Chinese)
http://8btc.com/thread-31877-1-1.html

More about Gavin's story could be found on the documentary movie The rise and rise of bitcoin


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: RealBitcoin on April 14, 2016, 10:25:12 AM
Interesting, perhaps he can answer about the hype that is going on around bitcoin classic.

I heard there was some backdoor meeting between miners and classic.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: hl5460 on April 15, 2016, 04:39:00 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4erzud/ama_gavin_andresen_on_8btc_scaling_bitcoin_april/


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: Kakmakr on April 15, 2016, 05:31:41 AM
He has most of the bigger Bitcoin merchants convinced that Classic will be the best solution for their problems for about 3 months, and now he is shifting his attention to the miners. If he can get their support, Classic will be the next hard fork.

This whole thing are playing out like a election campaign for a new president. I see some similarity between him and Trump at the moment. ^hmmmmm^


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: pooya87 on April 15, 2016, 05:34:30 AM
He has most of the bigger Bitcoin merchants convinced that Classic will be the best solution for their problems for about 3 months, and now he is shifting his attention to the miners. If he can get their support, Classic will be the next hard fork.

This whole thing are playing out like a election campaign for a new president. I see some similarity between him and Trump at the moment. ^hmmmmm^

haha, it is so funny because i was just about to ask this question about why he is doing in on 8btc.com which is a Chinese platform and it doesn't even have an English version (at least i cannot find any switch to En on their first page). then i saw your reply and now i know 8)


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: Risackwpsp on April 15, 2016, 05:57:49 AM
who cares?


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: hl5460 on April 15, 2016, 07:13:34 AM
He has most of the bigger Bitcoin merchants convinced that Classic will be the best solution for their problems for about 3 months, and now he is shifting his attention to the miners. If he can get their support, Classic will be the next hard fork.

This whole thing are playing out like a election campaign for a new president. I see some similarity between him and Trump at the moment. ^hmmmmm^

haha, it is so funny because i was just about to ask this question about why he is doing in on 8btc.com which is a Chinese platform and it doesn't even have an English version (at least i cannot find any switch to En on their first page). then i saw your reply and now i know 8)

China have too many miners and speculators to be ignored.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: Boosterious on April 15, 2016, 09:12:33 AM
Gavin Andresen will do an AMA on 8btc, 19PM(GMT+8), 21st April

https://i.imgur.com/doZ2FVd.jpg


Please leave your questions in the following link. (English question will be translated into Chinese)
http://8btc.com/thread-31877-1-1.html

More about Gavin's story could be found on the documentary movie The rise and rise of bitcoin
after all gavin give to us,and then he trying to build his reputation back,its funny. and we are never forget about what he said about bitcoin death,and i think not many people about this.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: GermanGiant on April 15, 2016, 09:19:11 AM
He did a previous AMA here - https://forum.bitcoin.com/ama-ask-me-anything/i-m-gavin-andresen-bitcoin-geek-ask-me-anything-t1990.html

Will he reply in Chinese this time ?


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: Denker on April 15, 2016, 09:23:49 AM
That guy is a joke!!!!Attentention whore and big manipulator and schemer!!The way he speaks, behaves and laughs on stage is so fake!!
I'm waiting for his whiny rage quit to be honest!
That's all you need to know!


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: antirack on April 15, 2016, 10:02:24 AM
why he is doing in on 8btc.com which is a Chinese platform and it doesn't even have an English version

8BTC.com has been around for a VERY LONG time, with very serious Bitcoin supporters.

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8BTC.com was like a sloop when first established in 2011. It was not before too long that 8BTC received the first donation from QQagent, the moderator of the Chinese sub-forum of Bitcointalk, as well as the Chinese translator of Satoshi’s Bitcoin White Paper.

From this 2013 article:
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/the-pirates-of-8btc-implement-the-idea-of-distributed-autonomous-corporations-1383165373



Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: Zarathustra on April 15, 2016, 01:21:39 PM
That guy is a joke!!!!


You are a joke; a late adopter nobody with an 'opinion'.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: countryfree on April 15, 2016, 02:52:32 PM
That guy is a joke!

If he is, so is BTC. M.Andersen has been the public face of BTC for many years, and he's probably the most respected BTC developer, only behind the unknown Satoshi. Sometimes, I wish he would still be in charge, there would be less of the governance problems BTC's going through.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: hl5460 on April 18, 2016, 04:24:50 AM
He did a previous AMA here - https://forum.bitcoin.com/ama-ask-me-anything/i-m-gavin-andresen-bitcoin-geek-ask-me-anything-t1990.html

Will he reply in Chinese this time ?

We have translators and volunteers to help with the translation.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: 7788bitcoin on April 18, 2016, 04:34:02 AM
He did a previous AMA here - https://forum.bitcoin.com/ama-ask-me-anything/i-m-gavin-andresen-bitcoin-geek-ask-me-anything-t1990.html

Will he reply in Chinese this time ?

We have translators and volunteers to help with the translation.

Thanks for organising this. Will the question and answers in Chinese be translated back to English? Hoping to find out what are the current concerns that Chinese miners and bitcoiners have on Bitcoin Classic.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: hl5460 on April 18, 2016, 05:35:38 AM
He did a previous AMA here - https://forum.bitcoin.com/ama-ask-me-anything/i-m-gavin-andresen-bitcoin-geek-ask-me-anything-t1990.html

Will he reply in Chinese this time ?

We have translators and volunteers to help with the translation.

Thanks for organising this. Will the question and answers in Chinese be translated back to English? Hoping to find out what are the current concerns that Chinese miners and bitcoiners have on Bitcoin Classic.

Yes, Qs and As will all be translated into bilingual form.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: tuvok007 on April 18, 2016, 05:45:29 PM
He"s an awesome guy,saw him on cnbc or cnn couple a months ago.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: RodeoX on April 18, 2016, 05:56:41 PM
That guy is a joke!!!!Attentention whore and big manipulator and schemer!!The way he speaks, behaves and laughs on stage is so fake!!
I'm waiting for his whiny rage quit to be honest!
That's all you need to know!

Something you need to know is Gavin. I doubt you have ever met him or have any inkling about coding. So how would you know?


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: stan.distortion on April 18, 2016, 06:08:36 PM
That guy is a joke!

If he is, so is BTC. M.Andersen has been the public face of BTC for many years, and he's probably the most respected BTC developer, only behind the unknown Satoshi. Sometimes, I wish he would still be in charge, there would be less of the governance problems BTC's going through.

+1, the guy got Bitcoin through it's toughest phase. I'm sure there will be a long list of key people to Bitcoin in the years to come and that list starts with Satoshi, then Gavin. Good bloke, hope the AMA goes well.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: Slowturtleinc on April 18, 2016, 06:33:22 PM
Will there be a copy of this stored somewhere to read in English?
Was going to ask for video but realized that would be a no go.

Interested in what comes out of this because I really have not used core yet but plan to when I use a new setup and the issues around it seem to be big.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 18, 2016, 06:35:33 PM
Andresen's credibility was sacrificed long ago, let's not forget that the XT/Mike Hearn episode was actually begun by Andresen on his blog, and involved both Andresen and Hearn tag-teaming. And when 2MB/Hearn failed, Andresen played turncoat again by joining the next 2MB failure. Fail fail fail.


Who cares if he committed other peoples good quality code for a few years, it all comes across as a long term confidence trick to turn Bitcoin against itself ("Gavin tried so hard, but even 500 terabyte blocksizes couldn't solve Bitcoin's problems"). Murder, but all with the best of intentions, of course. ::)


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: trashman43 on April 18, 2016, 08:05:18 PM
frankly i'm getting tired of acting like we need to keep walking on eggshells around this. he should simply be ostracized.

gavin is fucking scum.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 18, 2016, 08:18:52 PM
gavin is fucking scum.

No! Say it isn't so!

Didn't you hear about the time he pretended to be Satoshi to collect some meaningless award? How could such a super-fun-guy dressed up in his lab coat and coke-bottle glasses possibly be against Bitcoin? Gavin Andresen is the most insidious force levelled against Bitcoin that exists today, he's just been playing a psychologically sophisticated "long game".


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: broseph on April 18, 2016, 10:05:12 PM
Why would anyone want to ask him questions without the possibility of other experts debunking his opinions inmediately. Sounds like it's just another platform for him to sell some Bitcoin Classic.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: Gyrsur on April 18, 2016, 10:07:30 PM
just ask if it's true.

In addition to Bitcoin industry executives, such as the CEOs of Blockchain and Coinbase, at least one developer attempted to convince miners to increase the block size limit via BIP 109. According to sources, that developer was Gavin Andresen, who authored the improvement proposal.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=224


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 18, 2016, 10:15:53 PM
Interested in what comes out of this because I really have not used core yet but plan to when I use a new setup and the issues around it seem to be big.

Gavin has nothing to do with Core, he's part of a rogue team that is pretending to "fix" Core..... oh no wait, now that particular coup attempt failed, he's promoting himself as a Core developer again. And endorsing all the technologies in the Core roadmap. Except when he's promoting 2 MegaBloat Classic to 8btc.com, that is ::) Must get confusing, pretending to be and think so many contradictory things, eh Gavin?


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: broseph on April 18, 2016, 10:25:18 PM
Interested in what comes out of this because I really have not used core yet but plan to when I use a new setup and the issues around it seem to be big.

Gavin has nothing to do with Core, he's part of a rogue team that is pretending to "fix" Core..... oh no wait, now that particular coup attempt failed, he's promoting himself as a Core developer again. And endorsing all the technologies in the Core roadmap. Except when he's promoting 2 MegaBloat Classic to 8btc.com, that is ::) Must get confusing, pretending to be and think so many contradictory things, eh Gavin?

Not so confusing once you are accostumed to doublethink! BigBlocks are doubleplusgood!


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: hl5460 on April 21, 2016, 09:21:21 AM
2 hours away from the AMA. over 60 questions have been raised.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: Red-Apple on April 21, 2016, 09:28:51 AM
2 hours away from the AMA. over 60 questions have been raised.

how can the rest of us who don't know Chinese can follow the AMA and maybe ask questions?

it is strange to me because i have always seen AMA on reddit and only in English, a language that most of the people in the world use whereas Chinese will restrict it to a small portion of people!


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: Gyrsur on April 21, 2016, 10:13:42 AM
any link between Gavin and this?

https://petertodd.org/2016/mit-chainanchor-bribing-miners-to-regulate-bitcoin

Gavin is on the salary list of MIT, right?

uhm wait. he visited NSA in 2011 and immediately after this SN disappeared?

by the way. it seems Gavin is not unexperienced with backroom deals:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=224


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: hl5460 on April 21, 2016, 11:09:55 AM
2 hours away from the AMA. over 60 questions have been raised.

how can the rest of us who don't know Chinese can follow the AMA and maybe ask questions?

it is strange to me because i have always seen AMA on reddit and only in English, a language that most of the people in the world use whereas Chinese will restrict it to a small portion of people!

We have seasoned translators attempting to bridge the east and the west.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: hl5460 on April 21, 2016, 11:10:47 AM
any link between Gavin and this?

https://petertodd.org/2016/mit-chainanchor-bribing-miners-to-regulate-bitcoin

Gavin is on the salary list of MIT, right?

uhm wait. he visited NSA in 2011 and immediately after this SN disappeared?

by the way. it seems Gavin is not unexperienced with backroom deals:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=224

Could you please post the question to the thread: http://8btc.com/thread-31877-1-1.html


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: Gyrsur on April 21, 2016, 11:16:40 AM
any link between Gavin and this?

https://petertodd.org/2016/mit-chainanchor-bribing-miners-to-regulate-bitcoin

Gavin is on the salary list of MIT, right?

uhm wait. he visited NSA in 2011 and immediately after this SN disappeared?

by the way. it seems Gavin is not unexperienced with backroom deals:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=224

Could you please post the question to the thread: http://8btc.com/thread-31877-1-1.html

where is the interface in English language?

link?

im not able to ask the following because of this interface in Chinese language only:

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hello gavin, can you spend some words on this:

"In addition to Bitcoin industry executives, such as the CEOs of Blockchain and Coinbase, at least one developer attempted to convince miners to increase the block size limit via BIP 109. According to sources, that developer was Gavin Andresen, who authored the improvement proposal."

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/supporters-of-mb-bitcoin-blocks-unable-to-convince-miners-to-hard-fork-in-beijing-meeting-1461004264

thank you!


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hello gavin, are you involved in the MIT ChainAnchor Project at MIT in any way?

https://petertodd.org/2016/mit-chainanchor-bribing-miners-to-regulate-bitcoin

thank you!

anyone able to assist?



EDIT: sorry I have to correct something.

Gavin visited the CIA not the NSA.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6652.0


there is also no prove that this event forced SN to disappear. maybe SN disappeared earlier. but it seems the last email from Gavin to SN was about the CIA visit. SN never responded ever again.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113609.0


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: lumeire on April 21, 2016, 12:26:03 PM
Is there a video documentary for this? I'd like to check it out a bit.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: alyssa85 on April 21, 2016, 01:24:36 PM
He has most of the bigger Bitcoin merchants convinced that Classic will be the best solution for their problems for about 3 months, and now he is shifting his attention to the miners. If he can get their support, Classic will be the next hard fork.

This whole thing are playing out like a election campaign for a new president. I see some similarity between him and Trump at the moment. ^hmmmmm^

C'mon! He's not Trump. And he's done more to help BTC than anyone apart from Satoshi.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: Gyrsur on April 21, 2016, 01:28:09 PM
He has most of the bigger Bitcoin merchants convinced that Classic will be the best solution for their problems for about 3 months, and now he is shifting his attention to the miners. If he can get their support, Classic will be the next hard fork.

This whole thing are playing out like a election campaign for a new president. I see some similarity between him and Trump at the moment. ^hmmmmm^

C'mon! He's not Trump. And he's done more to help BTC than anyone apart from Satoshi.

he/they failed hardly!

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/supporters-of-mb-bitcoin-blocks-unable-to-convince-miners-to-hard-fork-in-beijing-meeting-1461004264


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: pereira4 on April 21, 2016, 01:40:30 PM
Interesting, perhaps he can answer about the hype that is going on around bitcoin classic.

I heard there was some backdoor meeting between miners and classic.

What hype? Classic is dying every day. Gavin Andresen tried to convince the chinese miners to raise the blocksize and he failed. Also there are rumors that Core related people were kicked out of the meeting or simple entrance was forbidden for them. Why this secrecy? Maybe they didn't want contrarians to their blocksize increase policy?


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: Bitcoinpro on April 21, 2016, 02:29:43 PM
Gavin what country do you view as the most favourable to Bitcoin :)


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on April 21, 2016, 04:03:39 PM
thx for the long AMA, good stuff.


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: Denker on April 21, 2016, 04:18:28 PM
any link between Gavin and this?

https://petertodd.org/2016/mit-chainanchor-bribing-miners-to-regulate-bitcoin

Gavin is on the salary list of MIT, right?

uhm wait. he visited NSA in 2011 and immediately after this SN disappeared?

by the way. it seems Gavin is not unexperienced with backroom deals:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=224

I've asked this myself as well.
And to be honest it wouldn't surprise me!
Imo Gavin is shady as hell! Everytime he does some presentation or giving a talk somewhere I have the feeling he is acting!
The way he speaks, his faked laughter and so on. It doesn't seem to be natural imo.



Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: btcusury on April 21, 2016, 06:00:30 PM
Gavin Andresen was Satoshi's biggest mistake.

He may have started as a "chief scientist" (whatever that means), but now he is the Chief Saboteur, a bankster and statist bootlicker.

Gavin tells Satoshi he'll be visiting the CIA, and Satoshi disappears... Nothing strange there.

Seemingly fake demeanor too. We can only speculate on motivations, but his actions speak for themselves (except to his unthinking followers who are looking for a "leader").


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: Kprawn on April 21, 2016, 06:57:41 PM
The guy got a taste of some power and influence and now he is on a power trip... He underestimated the support he had, when he teamed up with Mike Hearn. I guess there were more haters than

admirers for Mike Hearn and that caused XT to fail. He quickly jumped ship on XT and then created something more acceptable to the average Bitcoin user. {Classic} in the hope that he might gain

some favor and get back into the driving seat. The miners can possibly be his last chance to get back in the Bitcoin bus.  ::)


Title: Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April
Post by: pawel7777 on April 21, 2016, 09:27:37 PM

Questions and answers translated:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p3DWMfeGHBL6pk4Hu0efgQWGsUAdFNK6zLHubn5chJo/edit?pref=2&pli=1

Thanks to cnLedger
https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/723156199777046529