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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: remotemass on February 13, 2013, 02:35:57 PM



Title: Idea for a gambling game - Satoshifactor Game
Post by: remotemass on February 13, 2013, 02:35:57 PM
Every participant tells his bitcoin address, putting as much money as he wants - that are hidden till the last second.
The number of satoshis that you put is multiplied by the number of satoshis you are left with at the last second.
If the result from that multiplication is the greater one you win all money that was put on that game and the Casino gets only 2-3% of it.
Even the Casino can play but there are no guarantees that he will win as all participants are listed after the draw.
 


Title: Re: Idea for a gambling game - Satoshifactor Game
Post by: marhjan on February 13, 2013, 03:01:08 PM
Ok...  seriously...  is this supposed to be English??  You're perilously close to being the first one on my ignore list here


Title: Re: Idea for a gambling game - Satoshifactor Game
Post by: remotemass on February 13, 2013, 03:06:12 PM
You are welcome to translate it to an English of your preference  :D


Title: Re: Idea for a gambling game - Satoshifactor Game
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on February 13, 2013, 11:47:22 PM
If you could explain it and want to hire me to make it PM


Title: Re: Idea for a gambling game - Satoshifactor Game
Post by: remotemass on February 14, 2013, 03:31:03 AM
Let me try to explain it all better:

Anouncing a domain that redirects to a website with this game behind a tor onion but instead of the .onion in the link, using the link with .tor2web.org instead of .onion, so that it can be accessed in any browser without tor.

Could be a domain like: Satoshifactor.com , I would be advertising the domain, not the website that it would redirect to, and so wouldn't need to be liable for the site.

The game is very simple and the site would only need to tell instructions and the bitcoin address of the game:

Every participant sends bitcoins to the bitcoin address of that game, and participations are made public only at the end of each game, that runs every time 5 bets are made.
The number of satoshis that you send is multiplied by the number of satoshis you are left with at, at that address.
If the result from that multiplication is the greater one you win all money that was bet on that game and the Casino gets only 2-3% of it.
Even the game owners could bet, although it would have the slight advantage of knowing in advance the other bets at stake but still there would be no guarantees that it would win as all participants would be listed after the draw, and the five bets of each game are placed with too fast giving little space for the game owners to decide, even with automated bots. And maybe we could actually provide a way of keeping bets secret also to us so that.


Title: Re: Idea for a gambling game - Satoshifactor Game
Post by: payb.tc on February 14, 2013, 03:47:59 AM
Let me try to explain it all better:

Anouncing a domain that redirects to a website with this game behind a tor onion but instead of the .onion in the link, using the link with .tor2web.org instead of .onion, so that it can be accessed in any browser without tor.

Could be a domain like: Satoshifactor.com , I would be advertising the domain, not the website that it would redirect to, and so wouldn't need to be liable for the site.

The game is very simple and the site would only need to tell instructions and the bitcoin address of the game:

Every participant sends bitcoins to the bitcoin address of that game, and participations are made public only at the end of each game, that runs every time 5 bets are made.
The number of satoshis that you send is multiplied by the number of satoshis you are left with at, at that address.
If the result from that multiplication is the greater one you win all money that was put on that game and the Casino gets only 2-3% of it.
Even the Casino could play, although it would have the slight advantage of knowing in advance the bets at stake but still there would be no guarantees that it would win as all participants would be listed after the draw, and the five bets of each game are placed with too fast to give much time for the Casino to decide, even with automated bots. And maybe it could provide way of keeping bets secret even to himself so that he wouldn't have such advantages of knowing bets in advance.

so if i have an address that contains 1 trillion satoshis (10,000 BTC) and send 4 satoshis, my score is 4 trillion, so in order for someone to beat me, they need to have a higher score?

people who own 100 btc or less would have almost no chance

how could this remain a secret? the site would have to use a different deposit address for each person, otherwise people could look up the game in the blockchain before sending their bet.


Title: Re: Idea for a gambling game - Satoshifactor Game
Post by: remotemass on February 14, 2013, 04:06:24 AM
Yes, it would work like that with higher 'score' you would win.

Like is some sports where players will only play with those with about the same weight, you
could have different games, for different ranges.
But those with more would be able to participate in any range less than theirs, of course.
The concept of the game is to attract people to take their money from banks to have more chances in these games, maybe playing in group, cooperating for their group to have more chance.

Because every game is made of 5 bets only, you would have little space for using blockchain information, even using automated bots.
But to make it more fair you could multiply the score of the first bet by five, of the second by four, third by three, and fourth by two... or use other factors that were found to be more fair, like multiplying each by the number of seconds that each other player took to place its bet.



Title: Re: Idea for a gambling game - Satoshifactor Game
Post by: remotemass on February 14, 2013, 04:35:05 AM
But maybe better would be that your score from the multiplication would determine your chance, your chance of winning would be your score divided by the sum of all scores including yours. The number of bets of each game would be adjusted according to how popular the game was. 2-3% of the bets would be for the game.


Title: Re: Idea for a gambling game - Satoshifactor Game
Post by: lightlord on February 14, 2013, 04:49:57 AM
This wouldn't work, I don't think anyone would play it or become popular at all.

Why not make it a chance thing. For example Guy A puts 10,000 BTC into address 1
Guy B puts 100 BTC into address 1. Guy B gets a 100/10,100 chance of winning everything.
Guy A has a 10,000/10,100 chance of winning, ETC.

So everyone gets a chance, just the more you place the more likely.
This would prevent problems of one person putting insane amounts and always winning
100% of the time, instead any person that puts any amount would always have some chance of winning.

My two cents.