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Title: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on April 15, 2016, 05:34:18 PM
How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages

Imagine for a moment that everybody’s front door has the same key. Now imagine that the police have a copy of that key, and can saunter into your living room to poke around your belongings while you’re out, and without your knowledge.

https://motherboard.vice.com/read/rcmp-blackberry-project-clemenza-global-encryption-key-canada


Hey apple, you are next!


Title: Re: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: Evildrum on April 15, 2016, 05:37:40 PM
Another black eye for blackberry so much for them being able to turn the ship around and become relevant again.
The truth is all of these companies to do business allow these types of backdoors,read this a well back and for some reason its kind of talked about like it may be the case,it is the case!


Title: Re: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on April 15, 2016, 05:38:37 PM
i guess that is their end.


Title: Re: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: Evildrum on April 15, 2016, 05:43:40 PM
The main selling feature was encryption for them,so its a pretty good nail in the coffin.
Kind of sad,I know a guy that wants to retire that heavily invested in RIM because his brother was working for them and promised they where about to fly. Sure a lot of Canadians have them in their portfolios just hoping they return to even for them to drop the stock.



Title: Re: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: spazzdla on April 15, 2016, 07:22:39 PM
this is gg for blackberry


Title: Re: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: Fortify on April 15, 2016, 10:22:01 PM
You can bet most of the "Five Eyes" countries had this sort of access to supposedly totally encrypted communications, BlackBerry made a deal to get into the Indian market as well. They did lead in security for a long time, it was their ultimate selling point and it looks like Apple is trying to walk that path now.


Title: Re: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: Slowturtleinc on April 15, 2016, 10:40:47 PM
You can bet most of the "Five Eyes" countries had this sort of access to supposedly totally encrypted communications, BlackBerry made a deal to get into the Indian market as well. They did lead in security for a long time, it was their ultimate selling point and it looks like Apple is trying to walk that path now.

Apple will never be transparent enough for my likings,need some cell phone almost made with bitcoiners in mind. Would be awesome to have a phone set up that you could make sure had no fishy stuff going on.


Title: Re: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: machinationus on April 15, 2016, 11:15:50 PM
"using a single “global encryption key” that’s loaded onto every handset during manufacturing."

too bad they don't have Bitmessage for this phone

Seecrypt

ricochet DOT im


Title: Re: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: BitcoinBlackjack on April 23, 2016, 01:18:21 AM
It seems as if Apple is refusing to put in backdoors which is why they were in a very public court battle against the FBI a few weeks ago!


Title: Re: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: Barbut on April 23, 2016, 01:22:51 AM
It seems as if Apple is refusing to put in backdoors which is why they were in a very public court battle against the FBI a few weeks ago!

Who knows, maybe they gave it already and now they just make mask for that. Don't believe in anything they say.


Title: Re: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: BitcoinBlackjack on April 23, 2016, 01:25:43 AM
It seems as if Apple is refusing to put in backdoors which is why they were in a very public court battle against the FBI a few weeks ago!

Who knows, maybe they gave it already and now they just make mask for that. Don't believe in anything they say.

Yeah it's definitely true. Even Edward Snowden was mentioning that the NSA already has full access.


Title: Re: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: Spoetnik on April 23, 2016, 11:47:02 AM
Ya this is bad !

I am not too surprised but disgusted the RCMP would do this.
I get they need to do their investigations but law requires getting warrants etc.
That is like getting a warrant for every person in Canada but a dozen guys are being investigated.

I also had heard a couple years ago a News Story about how the RCMP / CSIS
has implemented spying in public places for phones / WIFI in places such as Airports
..on behalf of the request of the USA.

Conspiracy ?
Nope.. The Canadian govt admitted it 100%

This new tech digital age is sickening.
I am appalled at how Govts think they have the right to spy on people freely.


Title: Re: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: Slowturtleinc on April 23, 2016, 06:26:21 PM
This new tech digital age is sickening.
I am appalled at how Govts think they have the right to spy on people freely.

Freely, you can move to any country that doesn't spy on it's people...

Well that seems plausible but which Countries are we talking about that do not spy on their people?
The chances that you find one are slim and when you do they are most likely a small Country,meaning that their bigger neighbor is spying for them.
Would love to see a list of the top ten or five places to live for personal freedom. Not even sure who would be on that list.


Title: Re: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: Chris! on April 23, 2016, 09:18:46 PM
First of all, this happened in 2010. Lol.

This has already been going on with every platform, Apple has had a ton of press on this in the past few weeks. I'm not sure where "You're next apple" is coming from.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2016/02/26/apple-android-blackberry-phones-what-cant-hacked/80935692/
 (http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2016/02/26/apple-android-blackberry-phones-what-cant-hacked/80935692/)

Anyways, there's a lot more to the story.

"For BlackBerry, there is a balance between doing what's right, such as helping to apprehend criminals, and preventing government abuse of invading citizen's privacy, including when we refused to give Pakistan access to our servers. We have been able to find this balance even as governments have pressured us to change our ethical grounds. Despite these pressures, our position has been unwavering and our actions are proof we commit to these principles."

“privacy commitment does not extend to criminals,”



John Chen, BlackBerry CEO


Are you saying you would have withheld information on terrorism from the government, for your principles on privacy? Wow.
http://crackberry.com/john-chen-says-blackberry-stood-our-lawful-access-principles-while-assisting-canadian-police-2010
 (http://crackberry.com/john-chen-says-blackberry-stood-our-lawful-access-principles-while-assisting-canadian-police-2010)
If you're trying to say that Apple has better security than BlackBerry, I think you might need to do a quick Google search on that.

https://usa.kaspersky.com/internet-security-center/threats/android-vs-iphone-mobile-security#.VxvioDgpDZt (https://usa.kaspersky.com/internet-security-center/threats/android-vs-iphone-mobile-security#.VxvioDgpDZt)


Title: Re: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: Spoetnik on April 24, 2016, 07:46:46 AM
This new tech digital age is sickening.
I am appalled at how Govts think they have the right to spy on people freely.

Freely, you can move to any country that doesn't spy on it's people...

Any suggestions ?

Like what ones are known fro NOT ding that ?
And are not the arm-pit of society full of Talibans and & ISIS insurgents etc.


Title: Re: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: spazzdla on April 24, 2016, 11:47:14 AM
which Countries are we talking about that do not spy on their people?

That's sort of my point. I think Spoetnik would be better off leaving Planet Earth entirely.

Your point is like saying 5000 years ago to the jews you are better off leaving earth as there isn't a master that won't whip you.

It's moronic.


Title: Re: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: shanerc563 on April 24, 2016, 05:13:45 PM
I disagree with all of this, but at the same time, I have a completely different theory as to what privacy truly is.  If you are texting something to someone, you need to understand that this may be seen by a third party.   


Title: Re: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: Evildrum on April 26, 2016, 05:50:37 PM
I disagree with all of this, but at the same time, I have a completely different theory as to what privacy truly is.  If you are texting something to someone, you need to understand that this may be seen by a third party.   

Agree but why cant we have this privacy without some one exploiting loopholes to make us naked time after time?
Its getting to the point that we are chasing a elusive white whale that may never be available in the world today.


Title: Re: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: samlanhan1 on April 26, 2016, 06:22:06 PM
Is there even a way to make sure your 100% private while using technology?


Title: Re: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: spazzdla on April 26, 2016, 07:02:18 PM
Is there even a way to make sure your 100% private while using technology?

Kind of, if you are connected to the web the answer is no though. 

IN a faraday cage, no web connection one could do stuff with out the world knowing. This is how one should create bitcoin wallets... and then destroy the computer on which your passphrase was written.


If you wanted to send a message you could get a sha-256 encryption program, run it on an offline computer, burn the message to a CD and then send the message on your online PC.  Other person would need to decrypt on an offline comp or your passphrase is compromised.


Easiest way to think about it: if you are connect to the web the gov and hackers are watching everything you type/create and copying it to their servers.


Title: Re: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: Chris! on April 26, 2016, 07:58:19 PM
Is there even a way to make sure your 100% private while using technology?

Easiest way to think about it: if you are connect to the web the gov and hackers are watching everything you type/create and copying it to their servers.

That and the micro chips in the toothpaste and cameras in your underwear drawer. There's no getting away from the go'erment. They want our precious metadata, so they can sell it to apps then they can ask for permissions for 'Camera' so they can spy on us more. It's all in front of us people... Open your eyes!


Title: Re: How Canadian Police Intercept and Read Encrypted BlackBerry Messages
Post by: Spoetnik on April 27, 2016, 02:16:52 AM
http://i68.tinypic.com/2lji88l.jpg

If Blackberry and the US government want to take pictures of me taking a shit ?

NO PROBLEM just make sure you upload it to www.ratemypoo.com after.