Bitcoin Forum

Going back with my thoughts when i didnt know anything about cryptos: i was a developer for an online MMORG and one guy came up with the idea to integrate Bitcoins as "inworld" payments system. Well...my "profane" thoughts and feelings were like: "bitcoin is the kingdom of dark, unlegal affairs..." or "seriously you asking me to let my money run over someone else computer?" or again "lol i will never put any of my cents over something that would nightly disappear..." etc etc  :-\
But you know...when you sow the right seed...and make someone know about something...they will never be able to "ignore" what they seen  8)
Said that, i'm sure you all remember those days when you started to google about bitcoins, to research, ask, wonder...etc etc. I spent a lot of months doing that, even sporadically during my boring/lazy time. Downloaded propably tons of shit, wallets, virus, unfinished works, githubs, tested faucets, lost money, started my own shit-nodes and so on till nowadays and all the activities i actually do with Bitcoin and my life :D
So no, when i registered my account at bitcointalk...i wasnt exactly a noob: when you "decide" to register an account at bitcointalk you have spent prolly the last weeks of your life trying to get the shit out of your brain about Bitcoin and its alts and you have propably a lot of missing sleep time on your shoulders :D
So welcome noobs! I'll call you "mate" by now ;D

Newbies are not newbies in one another sense also.Most of the newbies account are alt of some established member.They pretend to be newbie and most of the time bump the thread of their main account :D

you can find out if they are pure newbie or not by check their history psot, mostly newbies posted in off topic or games section only to get their activity's point,
anyways i remember when i was newbie, i typed faucet first and it was funny exprienced, i stoped when i realized that i will never be rich if i just stucked on that method, and it's obviously wasting my time but it's very good way to learn about bitcoin

I'm still using a faucet, does that make me a newbie? (obviously, lol). I don't have any other way of getting bitcoins since I don't have considerable talent so I'm just doing faucets.

Its not always important that someone having an account with newbie rank is a newbie in bitcoin as well.
Maybe someone started using bitcoin before years but wasn't using this forum before and just joined it and he becomes a newbie here.
But mostly now a days, people are straightly coming towards this forum without reading or knowing anything about bitcoin, they just hear from somewhere that there is a forum where you can earn money as bitcoin so they just create an account start with here, so they are the real noobs.

When I was being introduced by my friend about bitcoin, i didnt believe bitcoin at first, after a few explanation and some proof i tried to do faucet, after i was tired using faucet,my friends introduced me to gambling using bitcoin and give me some bitcoin to do trading and gambling after i finished all my coins, my friends introduced me to this forum, so when i was register as newbie, i already has experience with bitcoin so i am not a newbie

Why exactly you didnt have faith/belief in Bitcoins? I meant, my concerns were:
Do you remember why you were recalcitrant to Bitcoins?

Not the way you think.The newbies cannot be associated with how much bitcoins you earn or you have in your wallets.Its about having insights of the technical background of bitcoins or cryptocurrencies in general.If you have sound knowledge of bitcoin core,blockchain,and other concepts you're above average.As long as this forum,you should be aware of the rules and regulations here.Follow them and instead of buying accounts ,let your rank grow with time.

i was like this at first too, it was mostly because it sounded too complicated and the person who first told me about bitcoin described mining as "solving a mathematical formula and getting paid to do it i mean what the F. it was good that i didn't run away screaming!

p.s. you used a big word like recalcitrant that i had to use google for and then say unlegal instead of illegal :D

So what are you trying to say here? The people that are marked as 'newbies' are not newbies? If so, then you're wrong. Additionally, there are a lot of users that are 'senior' and/or 'hero' members which I would mark as newbies. Just knowing what Bitcoin is and having a surface understanding of how it works does not make you a 'non-newbie'.

I agree. Many of us here, including me, know little about Bitcoin even if we are here long enough to be called "seniors" and such. That's what's good about this forum, you can learn a lot here and become a real expert with time. )

Account sales are responsible for those senior accounts who behave like newbies.  ;D
But I agree with the OP that people have a reluctance to register at new sites. They register only after some browsing and after they become comfortable with it.

They are not responsible, they are just part of the problem.

Not necessarily; that's a hasty generalization based on a small amount of evidence.

There's nothing wrong in admitting it. The problem is when people who don't really know their 'stuff' start spreading it to others and then it causes a chain of misinformation.

The information found on the forum is not adequate to become a 'real expert'.

Awesome post I can fully identify myself with.
Before I registered here and started posting I was doing lots of research about what Bitcoin is and how it works.
I tried out several wallets, checked out almost every video available on youtube, reading blogs etc.
I guess this is some kind of process many of us went through here. :)

Agree with you, people usually won't come to Bitcointalk before they truly know what is Bitcoin. I myself spend more than 3 months on faucet before finally I decided to register an account here, it was a funny experience.

haha true . Even I used to post about faucets and tried to get clicks for some Paid to Promote things, now all of that seems so lame . It was so difficult for me to get btc at that time , I was very happy when i could see i received 20k sats from microwallet .

Just a quick question... Did you eventually incorporate Bitcoin into any MMORG? ...If the answer is yes, which one? I used to play the text versions of these games and they are

highly addictive, once you get into it. I always wondered where I would have been, if these games were monetized with Bitcoin and how much money I would have had, because

my logged time on one of those were 678 days. There are huge potential for people to monetize these games, even the old text versions like Batmud. Sorry, I went off topic there..

The best newbies are the once that start out at the bottom and work their way up to the top.. Not the account buyers, jumping in at the middle.  ::)

A cromulent five-dollar word you got there, Sir Brah. Makes no sense in the context, but otherwise quite embiggening.

Good observation. I had already mined more than 20 btc before I found bitcointalk.

Then it was almost a year before I posted. I didn't want to sign up, partly because I didn't want to be a "newbie". It wasn't until I NEEDED to say something to defend someone else, that I opened an account.

Then after a long time and five stars later I realized that my anonymity could be compromised by posts on bitcointalk. So I walked away. Kinda like what Satoshi probably did.

Then I made a new account and started posting again.

And now this post says too much about myself so I'll probably delete it and start over again! Haha!

But yeah - newbies are not (all) newbies.

Very well said :)
In fact, when I first time heard about Bitcoin, friend suggest me right away to register account here and start to learn about bitcoin on this forum.
So, this forum really helped me a lot to understand bitcoin much better but still I can't say that I know everything.
I'm still learning so, in this case, I'm still newbie or student :)

as proof.. the very same person who i quote. has been a member for 3 years. even managed to attain the ranking of being a moderating staff of this forum. and in that 3 years he has failed to even learn that the main bitcoin implementation he loves so much bitcoin-core, is infact not wrote in java (http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2016/01/17#l1453062298.0), which he did not even know.

without even reading a line of code or white papers or even github. he still had to ask someone, after 3 years....

i feel sorry for all them people that blindly believe his words simply because he has staff as his rank

summary:
the ranking of this forum is meaningless.

Ah, i always assume people i talking to are intelligent persons so i didnt consider cheaters indeed. I'm mostly thinking about "brand new to bitcoin" than "forum newbies".

Agreed. Simple Machines Forum admins know your last IP > http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/SMF2.0:Members

LULZ ;D i had to use google to find the right term to use as well since in my native language it is a very common term.

Bows at Lauda: "Brand new to bitcoin" is mostly what i meant

Reluctant! That's the term i should use!

Opensim and yes i managed to integrate Bitcoin in the code. The problem is confirmation awaiting time is not applicable to an online virtual world...sux!

those are not real newbie either, you can count real newbie on the finger of one hands here, there are user with 50 account at least

Why did you incorporate it on-chain? Why not just make all transactions within the game off-chain, or even in a fantasy currency and have them convert it or sell it on-chain?

We had a whole sub-economy with it's own currency... you buy that currency with real money { In this case Bitcoin} and then trade in and out of that? Stuff like mithril or

silver coins and things like that. You could even link it with with a 3rd party service like Xapo and have no hassles with the confirmations? I am looking for a good MMORG that

incorporates Bitcoin {NOT a Alt coin} ... If anyone knows of any, please contact me.  ;)

I found this forum in 2013 through a link in an article in Wired. Back then, this was the place to find out more about BTC. These days noobs head straight over to reddit for bitcoin info. It seems to me that reddit has better and more current into than this forum (though this forum is still #1 for alt information).

Well, the average user (if you consider yourself as one) does not really know exactly how the underlying technology works in detail. If you understand the basics and some of the concepts of 'medium-complexity', then it is enough.

This is just supposed to symbolize users that a new to this forum (if you mean the rank "brand new").

yup,rude people will give semothing like that,like not care and afraid or maybe disguisting to bitcoin,but honestly i have massive respect friend to me,they never ever underestimate bitcoin,they just dont know about it,and not want to know about it.

It is fairly obvious that a lot of the accounts are copies of other members, there is a fairly large number of people using this forum, but a lot of those people make new accounts so they can make that easy money.

So many new accounts here are alts, as has already been said.   The sig campaign motivation I don't mind so much, though spam is a big problem.   It's the farming and selling of trusted accounts that's the problem.   Too many scammers around here pulling that shit.

I found this forum after I had heard about Bitcoin on a technical blog I was reading back then. Google search engine spewed out this as the number one result and my journey into Bitcoin began here. I was a complete newbie when I registered. I didn't know jack shit about what to do to set up my first wallet, how to do transactions etc. Then after reading up around on the forum I managed to run my first Bitcoin miner on my AMD laptop and actually got some coins from it. Those were the times  ;D

Not all newbies are a noob or didn't know anything about Bitcoin. Some were just an alt account, some were indeed owned by a newbie that has no knowledge about Bitcoin at all, and many others type of newbies. People in this forum are being judgemental to newbies because most of them are created with the intention to scam others., but not all newbies are 'bad' IMO.

To be honest, claiming satoshis from faucets was very profitable and can indeed make you rich back then, but I am too late, though. I started fauceting back in 2013, and I can earn 0.01 BTC or so per hour from faucet alone. It's worth it, but now I can barely make 0.01 BTC within a day. The faucet is still profitable if you have a lot of referrals, TBH.

It's very hard to spot genuine newbies any more. Most of the people here on the forum have an army of alt accounts sucking dry the signature campaigns. Now there is a new breed of newbie gamblers with a shitload of sock puppet accounts participating in the games and predictions threads because it's easy cash for them and that's more than they could earn in 1 month's time from signatures. Sometimes the shitshow is just plain obvious lol.

You are right but we here referring to newbies to forum not newbies to bitcoin.Even if Satoshi create an alt here and join forum,he would be newbie his expertise in bitcoin notwithstanding ;)

I guess OP is saying that every user that joins this forum at first they are ranked as newbies but not all of them are really newbies in bitcoin but they are newbies on this forum. Many of them are regular users of bitcoin from years but joined this forum now so they are marked newbies.
But now a days mostly users are newbies joining this forum just for earning bitcoins. They just hear it from somewhere about the forum and the opportunities of earning so they just open an account and start asking questions like "how to earn bitcoins fast and free" or "how to earn free bitcoins on this forum" etc.

Yeah, we used to mine our Bitcoin. Or trade fiat for it. Elwar has said many times that if people want to earn Bitcoin they should get a job.
It is still very newbish to think that Bitcoin is so unreal that you can magically earn it easier than fiat.
You'd get more money waiving a banner in the street than selling your signature space to some campaign.

It is a dead giveaway when the first post of an user is in a signature campaign thread. It is highly unlikely that a new user managed to go to the services board and find a campaign which accepts newbies.  ;D

Sure. Caveat:
-Can't turn yourself into 20 people waving banners in the street. Can post from 20 accounts.
-Waving a banner in NYC might pay better, but not in Yerevan.

Most "newbies" are just QuickSeller.   ;)

I do agree with your points and had a similar path in terms of getting into this forum, at a very late stage when compared to the time, I get to know BTCitcoin itself (just in general and not a pro user). I used to mine using multiple GPU's back in late 2011 and tried some faucets when I had the time (along the way), then got real busy with college and after a failure to one of my GPU's after a week of mining, I never re-invested again and sort of didn't use BTCitcoin up until I graduated. Then a year after my graduation, I red from a different website that, this website is the best site to put my Faucet rotator link and as result, I did it back in June,2015 and slowly I found out that this forum is actually more than just that  ;)