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As we so nod like newbie don't have any trust rating at the start
But so so get negitive ratings early into the tar on here
Shy is that and do his can a newbie grow hid trust so  ore members will trust him

Hope someone can answer this for me

Thanks in advance

#1 no reputation loans
#2 dont try to buy trust
#3 unless you have collateral, dont try to get a loan until your account is worth something
#4 having a good trust rating is overrated, be someone youd like to trade with and people will trade with you again.

Go way to step in the muck is make it clear you do not speak English that well and ask for a loan within 20 posts.
Its usually pretty easy to read and no one here is going to take pity on anyone and give them a solid.

I would take Shorenas post to heart and start fresh with a new account.

Newbie cant be trust for Services, Auctions etc

 :-\ what?! Could you try and ask that again and maybe we can help a little more with your question? If you're asking how to be trusted then all you need to do is be honest and helpful in the community.

we started on a flat rating.   but as time passes by with how we manage our reputation here, individuals will come to know us by that.  the more we do communicate or have a dialogue is the more we expose our true identity hence by if being always neutral will keep us on the flat rating?  usually trust is how we present ourselves in the community.  always be relaxed when on the keyboard because this what we are all about.  being cool. :)

First of all, you need to work on your English so people can understand you better.

Then you need to be honest and helpful as it has been said and others will be willing to give you a helping hand even if your trust rating is on zero.

Do not attempt to scam people, nemesis has a way of catching up on this forum.

I would change rule number 3 into: Have a valueable collateral which can be easily sold by the lender and is worth around 110-120% of the loan amount. Do also not give collateral to the lender first, since they might scam u. Always use an trusted and reliable escrow!

You've heard about the pot and kettle, right?  Having said that, I think I agree with what you wrote.  There's way too much of this crap on this forum.

There are some sort of things about which I would like to recommended you NOT to follow because these are DON'T(s) only . Please do not

1. trade with persons having negative trust unless you are sure you would not get spammed with negative trust .

2. tell people about an offer that no longer works .

3. trade with reversible payment systems being a newbie .

You want a newbie to be able to hide his trust so members will trust him? Oh dear, no. Even if the admins implement that, people in here will never trust a newbie in Selling goods, Loans, and Auctions (basically everything that involves money). Simply because if they will trust a newbie, then scammers will only make tons of newbies to change their identity.

But because you are not able to hide trust ratings right now, the best thing you can do is do nothing that will make your trust rating become negative. But sometimes even if you don't do anything bad or even if you follow the rules of this forum, there's still a chance that you'll get a negative reputation. I personally had a negative rating from DT members once because of false accusations of some trolls. I didn't even do anything.

Basically just don't post or support any ponzi websites here. Don't try to do some loans without collateral. Don't try to do good things for the sole purpose of getting positive feedbacks on your account. Search for the rules of this forum for the other details but those I mentioned are the most used reasons why people gets a negative reputation.

Don't looking for trust, the trusting will come to you if you are honest. Keep it be natural.

To put it in simple words, avoid doing anything reprehensible and dishonest and you'll be good. Read the guidelines posted at the top of evry section before doing anything and you should be fine.

I'm a newbie. I hear many people talk about having trusted feedback left from doing trades. I appreciate that the best way to gain trust is to be an active, positive part of the community. But specifically what I'm asking about as a new bitcoin enthusiast is the trade part.

1) But what does this actually mean doing a trade.
2) Could someone give an e.g or list some different ways there are of doing trade?

Thanks in advance.

1. Doing a trade means having a successful transaction with someone. If the deal was smooth enough, the buyer or the other party is likely to leave a positive feedback on your account.

2. Here are the things I can think of right now:
(a.) Trading alt coin with someone.
(b.) Currency exchange BTC>USD (or any other currencies)
(c.) Offering services like web design, signature & avatar design
(d.) Offering an escrow service
(e.) Lending money or successfully paying a loan on the or even before the agreed date of payment.
(f.) Buying and/or selling of digital and/or non digital goods.

Thanks for the clear and concise answer.
I think that's the first time - I've asked a question & had a completely 100% spot on reply,
which leaves me needing no more further Qs to clarify
 ;D

On the off chance I may have your expertise further.

1) I'm having real troubles with the watch board facility – does it work?
I've tried i) selecting Add posted-to topics to watchlist.
ii) Adding board Id to watch board for e.g for this thread I added 1444844.0 it came back Invalid board.

2) How do I view my posts, if they haven't received new posts, for e.g. I may want to scroll back to find a relevant quote or if I'm reviewing/checking some info from my threads?

3) Is there a way of returning to my last posts in a thread? For e.g. in the instance a topic is particularly hot & there are pages of replies or if I do not check forum for a few days? I can click on view my recent posts, but unless I make a note of the page where I left the post I may have to scroll back pages in some threads to find relevant replies.

Any input highly valued thanks.

You can click Profile -> Show the last posts of this person. If you want to see all the posts of someone else click their name then Show the last posts of this person. This should resolve a lot of your issues. The watch board seems to only show watched topics that have been replied to. You can edit and see what threads you're watching though.

Thanks. I'm a little embarrased because I discovered that about a week ago & then completely forgot about the facility  ???
Don't think I would have remembered without your guidance though so thanks again.

1 last Q: where if anywhere can I see specific threads that I started as 'show posts' just shows all threads that I've posted including but not exclusively those I started.

Do you want us to give you a link where you can see the unread threads that has your reply in it? Well, it's on the top left of your webpage. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=unreadreplies (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=unreadreplies). You can see the unread thread that you started there as well as the threads that you have unread replies.

Thanks - No I was looking specifically of a way of keeping an eye on threads that I had specifically started myself.
Other than marking as unread. The best method I have found is simply book marking them in a folder on my browser.

I have 2 other questions for any knowledgeable out there:
1) Is there any way of being alerted via email/phone or any other method that lets me know someone has reponded to my thread?
2) If  someone leaves me a negative feedback then they decide it was unwarranted, is it possible for that person to delete there feedback if so how?

That's right, what to do to begin with zero confidence.

But such negative comments so get here early into tar, tar very important

He was shy and he did a novice can grow his trust our members will trust him

Compliment at the best

Most new members now get negative trust for some reason.
Even check mine, and you will see there were two people that were annoyed that a Jr Member knew better and wanted to offer his opinion.
Strange, you can never get information back from what is messaged to shese people.

It is usually good to try not to stand out in the first few weeks of joining, once you do someone will find something wrong - a reason to give you negative trust - as this is what the members appear to have turned to.

Also, the mods and admins don't appear to remove negative tust of mae much of an effort to help resolve these issues that are created.

Yep, there's a delete button if you've written a feedback on someone. Negative trust from non-DT members doesn't actually matter that much. Unless they've put a solid proof on the reference link. It'd be more likely that a DT member would also put a negative trust on you and that will make your account completely worthless.

From non-DTs it still matters.
I treat all members the same when judging a user's trust before doing a trade.
A user that has legit negative trust from a non-dt member will be treated in the same way to a person that doesn't!

Did you really read my post? I did say that "Negative trust from non-DT members doesn't actually matter that much. Unless they've put a solid proof on the reference link." Usually the victim just open a thread in scam accusation boards and post the solid proof there. The DT members will then put a negative trust on the accused user. Even if a non DT member puts a negative trust on someone, the trust rating will remain neutral. That's why a DT member is needed.

Yes, but I think that a DT member that posts trust without a reference should have their rating considered similarly to a non DT member.
What you said is true that all members that add solid proof should be considered equally to DT trust scores. However, all DT membermay not give a user direct negative or  positive reputation as a result so this should not be relied upon. Also, it is more likely for people to get negative trust than positive trust so it is harder to judge people based on their trust reputation.

The trust system is very arguably flawed, and because of DT there is nothing balancing "good" and "bad" DT members. Even though, if the DT is DT, then you WILL get red and you will be untrusted. It's pretty bs, but it's life. Most people don't bother to check why they were - repped, so most of the time they get flamed in threads for "shut up you're a red trust person".

And now my part.

If you're going to learn anything in this forum, tread carefully. Don't do foolish things that will get you untrusted. Although newbies are often not trusted and just generally looked down upon with many things, don't let that bring you down. Look around before posting something here if you're unsure that it'll get you in trouble. Even if you do get negative trust, there must be a reason and usually, if it isn't too bad, you can work it out with whoever gave you the negative trust from DT.

You learn from experience, and eventually if you stick around long enough, you'll get the hang of the forum and like it a lot more. It's just getting past the first few ranks.