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Title: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: evoorhees on February 16, 2013, 06:27:34 PM

And then this just happened...

https://i.imgur.com/BauxIzs.png

https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/302844443223023616 (https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/302844443223023616)


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: jojo69 on February 16, 2013, 06:32:18 PM
jesus


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: Melbustus on February 16, 2013, 06:36:03 PM
2.5M registered users for Mega in the first two weeks (link (http://techcrunch.com/2013/02/07/kim-dotcoms-mega-gets-a-full-time-ceo-to-build-out-its-2-5m-user-base/))....not bad


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: evoorhees on February 16, 2013, 06:36:41 PM
But weren't there other resellers that did the same thing a while ago...

One other re-seller was accepting BTC. But this is news because Kim Dotcom just tweeted it to a quarter million followers, and will certainly talk about it more. This is him finally endorsing bitcoin, which the world has been waiting for.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: tbcoin on February 16, 2013, 06:41:24 PM
old news ;D

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136646.msg1517247#msg1517247

But is nice that he post it in his twitter (fed up with the insistence of some)


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: robocoin on February 16, 2013, 06:41:56 PM
I wait for one of his dramatic press conferences. Then...  :D


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: jojo69 on February 16, 2013, 06:42:13 PM
Ahhhh, it all becomes so clear now

Dotcom himself is the deep pockets that have relentlessly driven us up from 13.

Now, his ready cash exhausted, he makes this announcement and sells into the resulting rally...

BRILLIANT!


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: imanikin on February 16, 2013, 07:01:45 PM
...
Now, his ready cash exhausted, he makes this announcement and sells into the resulting rally...
...
Hope you are right! There will be money to be made in either case.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: ShadowOfHarbringer on February 16, 2013, 09:05:52 PM
THIS IS MADNESS !
Onslaught rally comes in 5...4...3...

WE ARE ON FIRE !!



Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: Rob E on February 16, 2013, 09:17:32 PM
You didn't put " Holy shit??" in you're title? That's what i thought when i first read the news on twitter. This is huugee. . I mean every body knew mega upload i mean fark fark redit. This is a huge pr for bc.  Actually after this news i doubt if the exchange will go down much.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: marcus_of_augustus on February 16, 2013, 09:52:17 PM
Ahhhh, it all becomes so clear now

Dotcom himself is the deep pockets that have relentlessly driven us up from 13.

Now, his ready cash exhausted, he makes this announcement and sells into the resulting rally...

BRILLIANT!

... except all his assets are mostly still frozen by the FBI under Proceeds of Crime type laws. He has been living on the goodwill of others since January last year.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: vdragon on February 16, 2013, 10:01:46 PM
This is the kind of push BTC needs. If only other hosters would look a little bit into the future


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: giszmo on February 16, 2013, 10:13:47 PM
But weren't there other resellers that did the same thing a while ago...

One other re-seller was accepting BTC. But this is news because Kim Dotcom just tweeted it to a quarter million followers, and will certainly talk about it more. This is him finally endorsing bitcoin, which the bitcoin world has been waiting for.

… fixed that for you ;D


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: Gestas on February 16, 2013, 10:15:31 PM
And like all things bitcoin you pay a fee for the privilege of using bitcoins.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: Severian on February 16, 2013, 10:18:17 PM
And like all things bitcoin you pay a fee for the privilege of using bitcoins.

There are fees for getting in and out of any currency market.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: 01BTC10 on February 16, 2013, 10:19:36 PM
May all others file-sharing websites massively follow this trend!


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: gusti on February 16, 2013, 10:19:39 PM
Not mean to be negative, but bitvoucher exchange rate is horrible.
At current prices, you will end paying $14 for a $9.99.- worth subscription ...


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: marcus_of_augustus on February 16, 2013, 10:40:00 PM
And like all things bitcoin you pay a fee for the privilege of using bitcoins.

For whiners and grinches like you the fee is doubled.

Bitcoin Nazi says: NO BITCOINS FOR YOU!


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: Gestas on February 16, 2013, 11:05:41 PM
And like all things bitcoin you pay a fee for the privilege of using bitcoins.

There are fees for getting in and out of any currency market.
Yeah which means that Mega doesnt really accept bitcoins, they accept USD but allow their reseller to exchange bitcoins for USD seamlessly instead of using an exchange.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: Crypt_Current on February 16, 2013, 11:17:02 PM
This has been a thing for a few days at least; check my signature


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: herzmeister on February 17, 2013, 12:05:25 AM
don't wanna poop the party, but isn't this MEGA + Bitcoin thing a bit overrated?

I feel MEGA is only interesting for a handful of warez groups. For most every-day users the 50 free GBs are enough.

And establishment-conform corporations will choose other, more conform providers of cloud services.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: Zangelbert Bingledack on February 17, 2013, 02:38:41 AM
Anyone care to wax poetic on the significance of this development?


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: cypherdoc on February 17, 2013, 03:08:21 AM
don't wanna poop the party, but isn't this MEGA + Bitcoin thing a bit overrated?

I feel MEGA is only interesting for a handful of warez groups. For most every-day users the 50 free GBs are enough.

And establishment-conform corporations will choose other, more conform providers of cloud services.

yeah, but MEGA is extremely high profile.  so whether you think adoption of Bitcoin is a good or bad thing by MEGA, at the very least its another major news event for Bitcoin.  which in my opinion, is a good thing.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: btcinstant on February 17, 2013, 03:37:39 AM
Cool stuff!


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: notig on February 17, 2013, 05:42:00 AM
Does anyone else get the feeling that bitcoin is just a little too powerful for it's own good.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: Fuzzy on February 17, 2013, 07:36:48 AM
Does anyone else get the feeling that bitcoin is just a little too powerful for it's own good.

It's becoming a little too big for certain special interest groups to ignore anymore, but that was inevitable, and some might say the very purpose of bitcoin itself.

Bitcoin only gets better as it gets bigger, so I wouldn't say it can ever be too big.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: Liquid on February 17, 2013, 08:29:16 AM
This is good news up up goes the bitcoin price pls  :D


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: Puppet on February 17, 2013, 10:53:22 AM
Yeah which means that Mega doesnt really accept bitcoins, they accept USD but allow their reseller to exchange bitcoins for USD seamlessly instead of using an exchange.

Precisely.  A quick check on Mega's site reveals no mention of the word bitcoin, I only see Paypal, visa and the like. This is no different then amazon "accepting bitcoin"  just because www.spendbitcoins.com allows (edit: allowed) you to buy amazon vouchers with bitcoins. Okay, and the CEO tweeting about it, which admittedly would be big news if it were amazon's CEO, but its not.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: pof on February 17, 2013, 12:02:32 PM
Not mean to be negative, but bitvoucher exchange rate is horrible.
At current prices, you will end paying $14 for a $9.99.- worth subscription ...

It's 9.99€, not 9.99$.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: gusti on February 17, 2013, 12:13:35 PM
Not mean to be negative, but bitvoucher exchange rate is horrible.
At current prices, you will end paying $14 for a $9.99.- worth subscription ...

It's 9.99€, not 9.99$.

You are right. Still 5% more expensive, either.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: Technomage on February 17, 2013, 12:25:55 PM
This is big news. Much bigger than the Reddit news, even. Kim Dotcom is such a high profile guy. I think that Bitcoin is actually becoming the default currency of the Internet.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: Zangelbert Bingledack on February 17, 2013, 12:40:11 PM
It's still important to note that none of these big sites accept BTC directly. It has turned out so far that payment processors like Bitpay and Coinbase are critical infrastructure to take the burden of legal risk, competency handling Bitcoin, and exchange rate volatility off the merchant's shoulders. This also suggests that there is great profit opportunity in starting competing payment processors/gateways, and we may see venture capital flowing in that direction.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: Technomage on February 17, 2013, 12:56:58 PM
It's still important to note that none of these big sites accept BTC directly. It has turned out so far that payment processors like Bitpay and Coinbase are critical infrastructure to take the burden of legal risk, competency handling Bitcoin, and exchange rate volatility off the merchant's shoulders. This also suggests that there is great profit opportunity in starting competing payment processors/gateways, and we may see venture capital flowing in that direction.

Good point. I believe this will always be the case. Bitcoin is a complex technical animal at its core, it will be more efficient for most companies to outsource the technicals to companies that know their stuff. As long as that market remains a free market and competitive, it is a good thing. I also believe that market will become even more competitive in the future.

I can't even see how that market could not remain a free market since Bitcoin itself is a free to use technology.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: herzmeister on February 17, 2013, 02:01:40 PM
It's still important to note that none of these big sites accept BTC directly.

that's just an implementation detail of those sites though.

should Bitcoin become popular enough so that they can spend them themselves for hardware etc, they will less and less need those payment providers.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: Technomage on February 17, 2013, 02:19:34 PM
It's clear that more and more merchants will want bitcoins directly since the payment processors have much cheaper rates if there is no fiat conversion. As Bitcoin fulfills its potential as the currency of the Internet, this will definitely happen.

It still doesn't change the fact that payment processors will be used because they offer so much, for so little. Doing everything yourself can be a pain in the ass.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: marcus_of_augustus on February 17, 2013, 08:53:34 PM
It's still important to note that none of these big sites accept BTC directly.

that's just an implementation detail of those sites though.

should Bitcoin become popular enough so that they can spend them themselves for hardware etc, they will less and less need those payment providers.

Yep. In the longer term big sites might have a sys admin and a payments (bitcoin) IT personnel and do away with a banking/accounts flunky or two ... accepting bitcoin directly.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: tvbcof on February 18, 2013, 12:29:16 AM
don't wanna poop the party, but isn't this MEGA + Bitcoin thing a bit overrated?

I feel MEGA is only interesting for a handful of warez groups. For most every-day users the 50 free GBs are enough.

And establishment-conform corporations will choose other, more conform providers of cloud services.

Just as a point of reference, I never gave a damn about warez (in part because open-source software just works better for me and I don't have interest in movies or music.)  I also have never had an more involvement in anything criminal than the average person and have no plan to...under our current laws...or at least those laws which are publicly known.

Mega and Bitcoin are equally (and highly) important to me on philosophical grounds.  It is debatable about what I am politically, but I am definitely anti-fascist and anti-totalitarian.

Corporate issuance of dept/money and massive, pervasive, and wholesale surveillance of populations are two things which really trouble me.  Bitcoin and the implementation of cryptography popularized by the Mega (hopefully  family of) products are giant steps forward in my opinion.  These two are several of the most important developments of the last decade in my opinion.



Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: BitPay Business Solutions on February 18, 2013, 05:10:14 AM
It still doesn't change the fact that payment processors will be used because they offer so much, for so little. Doing everything yourself can be a pain in the ass.

Yep :)


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: Puppet on February 18, 2013, 07:13:08 AM
It still doesn't change the fact that payment processors will be used because they offer so much, for so little.

Hmm.. assuming the merchant wants dollars in his account, Bitpay will cost him 3% (1% to accept the coins, 2% to convert them to dollars on his bank account). Credit card companies actually often charge less and even paypal is (considerably) cheaper if you have enough volume.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: caveden on February 18, 2013, 07:37:25 AM
I feel MEGA is only interesting for a handful of warez groups. For most every-day users the 50 free GBs are enough.

I have this feeling too. But then again, there's no such a thing as a free lunch, so how are these 50GB going to be payed for? I suppose that, as for everything else "for free" on the web, it's going to be payed via advertising. But then again, if his advertisers use traditional payment vehicles, what's to stop the financial blockade?

If only Mega was large enough to convince some major web advertisers to start dealing in Bitcoin....  ::)

It's still important to note that none of these big sites accept BTC directly. It has turned out so far that payment processors like Bitpay and Coinbase are critical infrastructure to take the burden of legal risk, competency handling Bitcoin, and exchange rate volatility off the merchant's shoulders.

I believe these companies should start looking into what it takes to handle their clients pay rolls (is that the English term for the process of paying your employees?).
Like, allowing employees to choose to receive, say, 10% of their salaries in Bitcoin. Then automatically tunneling part of the Bitcoin revenue the company has into Bitcoin salaries for their employees, making less exchanges against fiat and thus saving on fees for its client.
Also, these Bitcoin-specialized companies could handle the legal challenges, if any, that paying salaries in Bitcoin would represent.

I think that would speed up Bitcoin usage quite a bit.


Title: Re: Kim Dotcom Announces Bitcoin acceptance on Mega!
Post by: tvbcof on February 18, 2013, 08:05:54 AM
I feel MEGA is only interesting for a handful of warez groups. For most every-day users the 50 free GBs are enough.

I have this feeling too. But then again, there's no such a thing as a free lunch, so how are these 50GB going to be payed for? I suppose that, as for everything else "for free" on the web, it's going to be payed via advertising. But then again, if his advertisers use traditional payment vehicles, what's to stop the financial blockade?

If only Mega was large enough to convince some major web advertisers to start dealing in Bitcoin....  ::)


A working cloud storage facility with strong privacy options is very compelling to many.  When I've made use of cloud storage in the capacity of a designer working for a corporate entity, I implemented my own encryption scheme which works like Mega because I felt it was not responsible as a business to do otherwise.  It was highly tedious and costly (my wages as an engineer) to do so however.

If Mega expands their suite of offerings I doubt that they will have any difficulty attracting well paying customers who have the same legal concerns that I do.  The key is to stay in business long enough to reach that point, and 3x10^6 users is a strong hand.

I say again that Mr. Dotcom seems to be about as highly a skilled player/fighter as I've seen.  Even though I'm not a gamer I found it pretty impressive that he managed a top rating out of so many people...whether he cheated and intimidated or not...  That alone should have been a clue to the MPAA and their subordinates in the government not to fuck with him.  I only hope that he is very careful in his aviation related activities.  Unfortunately I cannot tell him to ask Paul Wellstone why.