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So everyone is saying to hold as much bitcoins as possible to get some nice profit during halving.Now i know trading is zero sum game so how everyone who is holding will be profitted during halving?
What are the after effects of halving? Can we see  $250 again?

No.

Unless there are some shady shts going on, there won't be any price dumps again.

Bitcoin is doing fine, and building up slowly.

The block halving is more likely to make the price go up instead of down. That's why a lot people advice others to keep holding. Just the probability of seeing the price go up makes people want to hold their coins. After the block halving I think the price will go down because people will secure their profits when the price has gone up.

everybody was expect that after halving the prices will increase and that's why they are suggest to bitcoin users to hold their bitcoin if they want to get more profit but i think people had only speculate regarding these because nobody else will can be predict the correct prices will really increase after halving

Yes nothing is guaranteed what will happen at the halving, as anything is possible, and no can be 100% sure whether it will go high or fall back, but everyone believes that price will go higher.

We just hit 250 USD recently. I do not know how much will the halving helps but I am certain that it would increase Bitcoin rate.

Not everyone will earn profit from Bitcoin in general, those who bought Bitcoin at 1000 USD for example, will take sometime to recover their lost.

trading is a sum zero game only in the sense of the total result, but there are surely those that are making profit out of it

i can not see 250 anymore, especially because it would kill bitcoin mining after the halving

i think that it is impossible for the price to go that much down, at least at the moment, because the price of the bitcoin is being pumped because of an upcoming halving event

im pretty sure that nearly all peopel that are buying bitcoins at the moment will make decent profit after a month or two because the price will jump to the big numbers when people start buying like crazy

Everyone and their grandmother's will profit, EXCEPT you. Oh, and we will see 250 again, guaranteed.

everyone will profit from bitcoin... except the fool who will pay for all of this :)

I really doubt that we would ever see below $380 again, unless there is some mass manipulation of the price happening.

I am holding for the halving, but we still have to wait and see what will happen with the halving, since there are very few historical records to go off of.

if there is a pump then surely people will sell and the price will come back down. but even if there is a big dump by all the stupid holders , even then the price will not reach $250

as an example you can check the last big rally of bitcoin to $1100 the price didn't fall down to $1 after the bubble burst.

Why is that guaranteed?

Halving will cut block reward in half. Intead of 25 it will be 12,5 coins for one block.
If demand stays the same or grows the price will sooner or later rise as less coins can get dumped on the market from minder's side.
This is a very simplified explanation.
Price can go down to 250 theoretically. But how likely is it? This to happen there must be some serious issue/incident.

Theoretically, when everyone starts to hold on to bitcoins, there is less transactions done and bitcoin value might go down and after the halving, if everyone started dumping/selling their bitcoins, the price would surely go down. $250 is overestimating it imo. It is possible that bitcoin might go down as much as $350. Well, we're never sure what will be the effects of the halving.

Yes I think we all gonna make profit by the bitcoin if everything from the halving will go like it has been planned.
The future of the bitcoin is just so good in my opinion.

Thats because back in 2012-13 people knew it was a manipulated growth on the buy orders on the first exchange.

Also what help sustain the price after mt.gox fell was bitstamp who held the actual real price at that moment of time $300 less of whatever it said.

I think anybody who is invested in Bitcoin NOW will profit as the price will continue to rise now over the next years

There will not be a fall anytime soon because of all the hype behind the halving and we all know that bitcoin's value is contrasted by the good news in the media regarding it. So everybody is forced to think that when this happens that it's value will skyrocket which could be false. We all just have to wait and see. The ones who are literally banking on this, will be the losers and the ones who held out will be buying up coins like mad. You wait and see.

Yes I think everyone will make profit because the bitcoin has such a good future in my eyes, if you think about the halving it will already be enough.
Its just a matter of time before the halving is coming, and most likely we will gonna make a lot of profit with it.

I made money buying Litecoin before its halving and selling after it rallied. However, its price continued rising after I sold, so I bought back in just before its price went back down. My losses were bigger than my gains due to my crap trading skills. I'm sure other crap traders will have the same experience during the Bitcoin halving, and lose more than they win.

Halving is just a trend in bitcoins that can either increase/decrease the price of bitcoins. Litecoins lost during halving and the price reduced a lot. We can possibly reach $250 but as of now, the price is increasing and I don't want it to drop which may lead to a panic situation among sellers.

everyone who refuses to step away from the shackles of government banking cartels issued currency and the financial enslavement that comes with it will pay for it. Along with hose who engineered that whole scam.

remember that if you're here, because at some point you have decided to dump and escape in your fiat warehouse, then you might not really profit from bitcoin

you should aim at using bitcoin directly one day, only when that day come you will profit big with bitcoin, and when i mean big, i mean really big, so big that your entire family's generation will live without working

i may not be certain about how high bitcoin price is going to go. but i am hundred percent certain that we will never see $250 again.
these days that are going to last for a couple of more months we will only witness the rise of bitcoin. it is slow now but soon i think a big rise will come.

I wouldn't say "certainly." Rather, the proper word to use is "most likely" that we would not see $250 again.
I'm just suggesting margins into our use of words because bitcoins aren't really completely unpredictable such that there could be an unfortunate event that may happen in the future that would enable us to see $250 again, but given the current situation, an event like that is most likely not gonna happen. Well, let's all just hope for the best.

Everyone will profit from bitcoin if everyone uses bitcoin. That means their savings will not disappear due to inflation.

I think if you stay holding the bitcoin these days and you wait on the halving everyone can make profit with the bitcoin for sure.
Of course no one knows what the halving will bring us but most likely it will be good.

This situation sounds alot like buy the rumour sell the news which is to say that markets can be ironic in their movement.   The block halving is well flagged and could be that the price leads lower after that event not long term but over weeks or months.

This would be normal activity in a distributed market so thats what Im expecting



Presuming bitcoin is more efficent then normal that could be true.   Security and integrity is the main thing and I guess it compares well on transactional costs too

Yes, it is true. but you also need to be careful. bitcoin is currently quite easy to get, even for a beginner. but so many charlatans out there, they are also trying to take bitcoin you got. one way to get the advantages of bitcoin is register sites faucet

It can go up or down after the halving, nothing is for certain, but based on the facts you have to make a decision whether to buy now or not and the fact is the supply of bitcoin is going to cut in half and therefore for miners to continue mining profitably the price has to stay the same and/or go up.

Predictions are only ever predictions. Take everything with a grain of salt.

Those words are hollow coming from somebody who doesn't buy bitcoin with fiat, but who "earns" bitcoin only. You aren't risking shit.

As you know everybody was expect that after halving the prices will increase and that's why they are suggest to bitcoin users to hold their bitcoin if they want to get more profit, but this can turn upside down

So bitcoin can learn something of it's lessacessor  :D
Litecoin halving made people lose out what they thought they would gain from their halving.
Sounds like a revelation of what might happen here with bitcoin.

If everyone is making money, then no one is making money -myselfbtc

There is no way for EVERYONE to make money. It just cannot happen because it simply does not work that way. Someone will buy the ATH (or in this case, the top of the rally) and therefore, they cannot profit.

/thread

This is too common a tale. Trading is difficult.

well i've actually invested in the mining equipment(in fiat money), by using the first coins that i've generated, all started from zero in my case

i've started with a single gpu and that gpu, has gave to me plenty of coins

and anyway i was forced to begin without fiat, because i had no money...

Bitcoin savings will not disappear due to inflation ;)

personally i got good profits from bitcoin, i think everyone will be profited, if not it is only the human mistake because humans will be more greed and invest in methods where they lose their money otherwise bitcoin is beneficial to all.

really does not guarantee halving will make the prices really rise. but if continually advised people buying and holding for halving, it is not likely people will panic buying and this is likely to make prices rise ;D

I think everyone have felt profit from bitcoin although slightly due to little or big it's depends on your courage while doing trade bitcoin.

You want to see real profit? Or you want to just make a short term buck or two?

Simple laws of supply and demand say that when supply is less than demand, price goes up.
Think of that like a see-saw.

Bitcoin new coin supply will be cut in half, roughly around mid July, i believe.
Ergo, the price goes up.

Magic!!! Everybody profits!!!

But wait..hold on! Bitcoin is a complex enough market...in that it is a bit unpredictable.

If everyone is expecting profit...and everyone buys bitcoins... and everyone is waiting for X to happen, once Y happens...

Nobody can actually predict that. Because we EXPECT something.. (esp. in the bitcoin market) is absoulutely NO guarantee it will happen.
In fact, bitcoin has a habit of doing the opposite of what is expected of it and usually with unexpected timing..  

I don't expect miracles with the halving event. Maybe top out around $650
In fact, i expect pumps and shake outs and many people will sell... and when all the weak 'just here for a quick buck, but sorry wifey, i lost our money' guys are shaken out.. then the real rise up starts.
Be careful.

Edit: I think that if you are taking a longer-term view, say, 3+ years, now would be a good entry point. I expect the real fireworks to start 3-6 months after the halving. I myself have bought a bit more this week and have sent more cash to Stamp last night.

Halving is just a trend in bitcoins that can always increase the price of bitcoins and so it will do this time..

every one can make profit with bitcoin especially if there is a pump. i hope when halving is happen, the rate will increase  ;D

For everyone that is inside Bitcoin to profit, there must come money from outside. There must be people who are not into bitcoin buying bitcoin for the price to raise and be sustainable over the long term.

Yep free markets never move straight, more like a river winding its way down the valley.  You can predict direction from gravity and such things but not the exact course at any time.   
I agree long term its likely up but only if bitcoin is useful to the world, it might be replaced or redundant in comparison to other digital currency products and that is a real possibility.  If more people find it useful then yep halving suggests we might even double but who knows what the correct average price for the doubling is, so much speculation and 'investors' but its the real users who decides value imho

Right. Well, typically the majority expects something but they rarely do anything to provoke the aforementioned event. I bet that many [maybe 80%] of the people who state that the halving would double the price [I personally find this claim to be ridiculous] still have less than 1 BTC in their main wallet. I bet that they still possess with them a certain amount of doubt in the future of bitcoin and are afraid of investing in it.

I myself also have this doubt, and hence though I believe the price will rise, I do not expect it to go to such inane levels.

I would not consider just the absolute number of bitcoin held but bitcoin used and revenue not just capital. If someone operates a shop of bitcoin and turns over a dozen bitcoin then I wont argue with them even if they only hold half a coin themselves personally.   The actual users have far more clue if this currency will continue to be successful and more useful then alternatives, all the speculators just know the exchanges markets possibly

You can not assume that all people are holding their coins and trade volume will be zero. This is not true at all. Check any exchange site and you will see the trading volumes are rising not decreasing
And about 250 ? It does not seem to happen again

I expect a little bull run, but then there will be people taking their profits, bringing the price down again a little bit. It's inevitable.

The more sharp the uptrend will be, the more "losers" there will be, too. Because high volatility means that the price also can go down fast, and people will panic faster than if there is only a slow uptrend. That is more true for new members of the community which tend also to have too high expectations for the bubble peak.

So the most "win-win" outcome, with the smallest number of "losers", I can imagine is a slower uptrend. I remember that in the early 2013 uptrend there was a group that wanted to achieve just this - they wanted to sell if the price went up too sharply, so the bubble would not overheat. They failed, as we all know the bubble overheated totally and the April 11 (?) crash was very sharp (266 -> ~100).

Trying to remember back then, apparently I was here :D    Yes it was kinda slow over the summer, I wondered if it would ever pick up.   there was some clues of price accumulating strength then the autumn it was a ramp up to impossibly high levels, that really was a spike out of nowhere to me and in of itself created news and exposure for bitcoin.   I think that spike was partly related to mt gox and its weird accounting.
People didnt predict that but there are reasons behind moves, its not all speculators

A normal exchange will restrict large price differences on the upside not just against crashes.  I think its the Chicago board options exchange that requires increasingly large amounts of margin up front on commodities when the price is volatile, its what broke the silver market in the eighties.  Its actually healthy to stop price spikes, btc has no such controls afaik

There aren't going to be winners without at least some losers. Not EVERYONE will profit from bitcoin, but in the coming months, we can assume at least an increase in price thanks to some people's losses or "investments" in bitcoin. Eventually when the price surges to high levels, there need to be buy orders for "suckers" to lose and generate profits for the sellers.

If your smart about it's use and know how to save it and not fall for any schemes that can take your bitcoin. Then yes you easily can be quite profitable using it. If you know the rules of making it  ;)

it's true, because if a someone never get profit from bitcoin, it looks like they will stop using bitcoin.
bitcoin users more, therefore bitcoin it is very profitable.