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I wonder why hackers keep going hunting for newbie or people without knowledge and they get the majority of the times something like 10-20 Bitcoins, I can understand thats a good sum but I want to give them a suggestion.

Why don't you go after ponzi scams, which are showing their paying address. Cldmine, topmine now show us their paying address in their latest transactions, you can get 200-300 BTC from them if you are experienced enough and do  us all here a big favor remove ponzies and their supporters. I hope someone of them reads this.

We should all do something against them, apparently warning people has miserably failed so far.

But tell me what difference those it make?
Ponzi money are in fact ordinary users BTC so hacking ponzis would be stealing from
normal people. You right about giving a lesson to pyramid organisers but not at cost of
participants, they risk enough already.

Any participant is helping pyramid organizers so they too deserve to learn a lesson to stay away from those websites. They are no ordinary users rather than ponzi helpers and promoters, so yes the hacker should get all the money of HYIPS, ponzi , cloud mining scams, so at least these websites would not pop up like fungus after the rain.

Well, ponzi providers would take the money... though there are hackers that are ethical and with that there would be a chance that the original investors are lucky and get part of their money back.

Well... hackers normally are ethical. They don't like those harming hackers and name them crackers, because they destroy. I wonder if those crackers name themselfes hackers because they want to have some honour or something.

Simply because most hackers are hacking not for money but for justice. They don't need 300BTC in real life at all. Try watching V for Vendetta, and Who Am I. They fight for the society in a very silent way. They aren't greedy at all. I believe that's the ethics that most hackers have.

thats the case for those who don't need money. but for those who need budget and real jobs, they would certainly want such the problem however is erase their tracks and avoiding getting away with it. its not that simply as far as i know. those who do something that isn't right is going to pay for it.

That's not what he meant with hackers. Those hackers he mean don't have a problem finding work. They have experience and can offer it. Those going to the dark side mostly don't come out of their pool. These crackers are mostly scriptkiddies that found it cool to read that you can steal money by hacking. They try free scripts and start from there.

Well... naming those hackers can't be changed back anymore I guess. So the name gives the real hacker community a bad name too.

Pretty sure most hackers wouldn't risk their identity just to have a 'good budget' or smth. Most of them are content if they can eat 3 times a day and see that their family is living well. They don't go outside that much, thus, they're not gonna be needing tons of money.

And also let's just assume that a hacker hacked a ponzi website and earned 300BTC out of it. If he withdraw this large amount of money or even if he withdraw small chunks of this money, the government will still wonder where did he get those money. The government will try to observe what he does for living and stuff. You know my point in here, I don't have to explain any further. The government will find out about that money and will also find out that he/she is a hacker.

Hackers probably wouldn't take that risk. :)

You need a lot more than a bitcoin address to "hack" someone.

Ponzi owners are probably hackers themselves and therefore know better how to protect themselves from the other hackers and the truth is hackers/thieves don't have a conscious, if they did they'd not do this to anyone in the first place, so what you're trying to do in hopes they have a change of heart is just a fool's dream. It don't make no difference to them whether you're good or bad. If they see a vulnerability/hole in your security, they'll take it.

Thats what I am asking, I don't care if they have a heart or not, just telling them what to hack, they get the money ,we stay clear of these ponzies which keeps popping up like fungus after the rain and take a large chunk of BTC from newbies or unexperienced persons. But I know this sound like a no answer call as it takes a whole lot more to hack a website, still they have hacked exchanges, so they can hack these websites too.

Fatanut



I'm not sure what hackers you know but it sounds like you have some image of kind of hackers from movies in mind. :D In fact real hackers are security experts. They get paid pretty well for finding security holes and offering such services to businesses. For example.

Why should he withdraw that amount? And even if he did... you did not really think this through. There are so enourmous many ways how he could hide everything... if he would be catched for such things then he probably wasn't the smartest one.

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I doubt crackers would run ponzis. Well, maybe some noob script kiddie but not the pros. It's simply way too much work and no real return in most cases.

Most of the ponzi sites put their large sum of money in offline wallet and never use it as they will likely run away if they have to pay large amount to their investors. So they put small amount in hot wallet for daily small transaction which is enough. So ponzi are in safe side from hackers compared to shapeshift.io like exchanger which have to hold lot of coins to meet daily exchange demand in hot wallet and got hacked recently.

The real hacker will find big target not small target maybe the answer for your question, they are a new hacker. they real hacker will stolen big money in every the mission.

Oh, I see. So the hackers from movies/TV are not that of an expert or the smartest ones. You guys @SebastianJu @zenitss have a pretty good point which made me think that I'm wrong in any possible angle. ;D

Hackers in the movies are just doing stuffs like breaking into smth big but they don't withdraw any money and stuff.

As i see it, most hackers dont have the mood to do such a thing, to go and "chase" some scripties...

They dont have any "real" motive to do that, because they "care" to infentrate the system deeper in more advance systems.

But, imho, the motive is big and strong.If "you" are a hacker you dont want to call your society "crackers" or having some of them inside your circle...I guess... ::)

So, what better motive/ cause to put a line between them and all the others? 8)

As for the money, just make an airdrop in the community...Easy, fast, anonymous solution... ;D 8) 8)

I am of the opinion that should ban all sites double bitcoins which is here

A lot of people lost money on these sites and double the creators of the double sites station on social networks and in some forums showing off how much are incredible to steal bitcoins the members of this forum

I even found myself already some scammers who came to this forum and created large double sites, then stole all bitcoins members

  today these scammer are showing off in some forums

It has a double scammers who created 17 sites of which 4 of them were very popular here in the forum and this scammer is proud to have earned a lot of money robbing people

we must banish all these sites double

This is what white-hackers are for. But what's in it for them? Are you going to pay the hackers to hack the system and repay investors? Are you going to let the hacker steal from the ponzi operator? So the investors still don't receive any compensation? Only if someone had the capability to hack and the drive to hack a ponzi without any payment, would this work.

Well, when they would keep the funds then the hacker would be the bad guy in the game because every investor would say he has stolen the funds and not the ponzi provider who did not yet proof his scammy character. On top the ponzi provider could claim he is not at fault.

In fact it is a liked excuse for scammers that their service was hacked. Often enough they only faked the hack and kept the bitcoins.

You can hack the site but it doesnt mean you can steal their money and lol you cant hack with just payment address

You don't need to hack site. You can simple do SQL injection after change address and queue in index field. That's reason we doesn't use PHP and databases at all. Because too risky.

For noobs how to :)
http://www.pakhackermaster.com/search/label/Google%20Dorks#.VxvSapSOGdU

Edit. Best solution is to design payment processor as standalone embedded device and program microcontrollers directly
and separate it from web totally.

Regards.

I would like to see hackers try and take a shot at Etherpyramid, its a ponzi made via smart contract on the etherchain. Send one ether and receive 2.9 ether in time.

hacking the site doesnt change the fact that the money is already gone, unless they are a bunch of robin hoods who would want to look like heroes and send the money manually to people who invested
but i dont really think thats how the real world works