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Legendaries do not have any special advantage over a Hero member. So, why not have a dedicated sub-forum for them ? The forum can be hidden from others like Staff forum. Alternatively, it can be made read-only for others.

Thoughts ?

What benefits does this provide to anyone?

This is an open forum made so everyone can see/reply to any threads or topics.  I wouldn't want to be a part of any "Hidden" forum section if i were Legendary. Seems kind of boring to me.

There is already the donators sub-forum which is essentially dead and I can't see a Legendaries sub-forum going any different. What might be interesting is a sub-forum for default trust. There are often issues which require discussion about inclusion or exclusion and at the moment the only way to communicate is to PM 10 people and spam everyone's inboxes when anyone replies. A sub-forum may organise this differently.

I do not think it would be active and see no point to it. What would we discuss in that sub compared to everywhere else? Obviously, us Legendary users are better than any Hero or underlings, but we do not need a sub to prove it  :P

Currently, the forum is full of low quality posts. The same question is being answered by 10 or more people for signature payment. These things wont probably happen in Legendary forum. People will get to see more knowledgeable, in-depth conversation and will learn a thing or two about bitcoin.

I think, this will be different because lots of Legendaries are still active as opposed to donators.

I think thats a good idea. It should be read only to everyone though to keep things transparent.

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What would be legendary only topics though?

There are pros and cons for it being public. For example discussing CiTM in the public before he was overthrown got you disavowed from DT and negative trusted. People can be unwilling to speak out at their own risk and also propagates people using smurfs.

Without a common topic just being leggendary is kinda wide open.  Some posts might be posted there that would help others... so you might be hurting other forums by limiting who can post/see.

I see at end of day it turning into a offtopic area.   I don't think we really need it in any way.  Sure would be neat to have a private forum...  but long term I'm just not sure it would be good for the forum.  Or if it will even be active.

Why wouldn't that same thing happen in a DT-only subforum? You mean a subforum for DT1 and DT2 members, right?

I think it would be bizarre to have a subforum dedicated for one user's (two if you include QS but he's not in DT) scheming.

This was already suggested at least once. The issue here is what would be discussed in the sub (everything? Which would be a horrible mess) and potential inactivity. There as a legendary-only self moderated thread which was used for testing purposes in the German section (basically, a bot was used which deleted any posts from non-legendary members). There was inadequate activity to justify a single thread (however, it could be due to lack of legendary members that speak German). Now, if you are really interested in this idea OP, then you could open a self moderated thread in the Off-topic section just for legendary members and see how it goes.

Well CITM (and those in his trust list) would have been able to see threads about CITM, so having a private DT sub would not have changed this.

Except that I have never left negative trust because someone was speaking out against me.

Having a DT1 sub would be pretty useless as there are not very many of us. I suppose maybe a DT2 sub might be somewhat useful to discuss ratings, but then again not sure it would get used much.

I was referring to your attempts to remove people from DT and to re-add yourself.

Except in my case of course.   ;)

The negative feedback you left for me is such grasping at straws, it's obvious it's for speaking out against you.

I'm sure there are a dozen others who would post the same, if anyone cared what you thought anymore.

That's true, maybe he wouldn't have tried to go out all guns blazing if he hadn't been called out publicly (several times).

If someone will create a special sub-forum for Legendaries, please disable signatures and avatars on it, to me it even better.

The signature restrictions for different members can be changed to give benefits to legendary members.
Right now hero and legendary are almost at par.

I disagree. Most of the signature spam comes from members with lower ranks. It is quite rare to see a legendary member with really useless posts.

I'm certain that it would not have much activity. I also disagree with this because it could feel like DT members are having "backroom deals" for the remaining members (since they technically "control" trust ratings).

But over time all those accounts will all become Legendary too. I have thought about a board where there's no signature shown or posts made in there don't apply towards post count. Maybe people could be whitelisted into it posting in it. Think it would probably be easier to just restrict signatures to higher ranks like Hero or Legendary or just get rid of them all together though to be honest. Something really needs to be done. Said it before but it wont be long before the only people posting here are those from the Philippines/Indonesia etc on their ten alt accounts regurgitating the same old shit over and over again.

They do have special advantage in their signature as far as i know. Dividing us from the Legendary won't help the community grow. Lets say the admin allows it, what do they have to talk about besides the ones in the open forum? would they have the advantage to which they'd be notify during the start of ICO?

Giving them a separate sub-forum is not the same as 'dividing' them from the other members.

There might be a higher chance for actual discussions without the spam seen from lower ranked members.

It's not like people don't do this already via PM and other means of 'private' communication, right? ::)

Anything from block size controversy to Lightning Network implementation, but with less noise and more rationality. Right now, bitcoinTalk.org, forum.bitcoin.com, /r/bitcoin, /r/btc all are full of chaotic newbies. A Legendary, who has spent a significant amount of his online life in bitcoin related discussions, will most likely be far less chaotic than a random newbie.

Maybe rather than based on ranking there could be a subforum where you could 'vote in' only certain people that you would like to be part of the sub-community.

Alice, Bob and Hercules all decide to open a group thread/subforum.

Bill wants in. Alice an Hercules both accept his request and he's now part of the group. You always need at least 50% of the current group to agree (or have a few set people that can vote, say the 3 originals) and with enough votes they can also get kicked out.

This would be a good way to converse with like-minded people without the worry of random signature spammers coming in with there terrible 'lol. Ya. Mining is good and such. I can has a bitcoin in a 2 yearses with the little aunt miner version 200.0.1.'

Voting of any kind does not work on here when there are people running multiple accounts.

You can do that with a self-moderated thread to some extent. Not sure if adding more complication (voting) on top of it would make it any better. There is no lack of confirmation bias already in the forum.

I wonder why OP is so concerned about this though! You have a long way to go before entering Legendary BTW.

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Best solution would be to create a thread with self moderation.
It'll eventually keep newbies away.

Only time I use self moderation is in my reviews.  As everytime some try to use it as a hardware sales (it's mean for support), or they just like to spam it.    I personally don't care newbie or legendary as long as they bring good information/posts.  So I don't see a huge reason for trying to be just legendary.

It would create like a "club" that really would do nothing.   I cant think of any topic I have I just want to limit to legendary accounts.  Normally I enjoy talking to all levels, and all parts of the world.  And I enjoy helping and talking to new people... so that could be why I don't see reason to have legendary board.

Other forums have this section or sub forum for Moderators and Admins where they can discuss what action needs to be taken and what are the thoughts of other Moderators and Admins and it's also a good section to police its own ranks. However, those section in other forum can only be visible to Moderators and Admins only to protect the them from members with issue and to avoid further drama.

I dont think the rank matters in this regard. There are less legendary users, but not everyone with a high rank knows what they are talking about.

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This forum has a mod only section as well -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=3.0

The suggestion is to open a subboard for the highest user rank and I question that it would do anything for anyone.

In the next few weeks or months I'll become a legend. Is my opinion more worthy than a full or senior member? Hmm. No. I've just lurked here for longer. But a special forum might inspire some quality discourse for others to learn something from.

That or it may inspire spammers to step up their game to get to the Legendary board faster.

I actually like the idea.  There are so many pathetic scam attempt threads (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1446538.0) and account sales threads (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1445177.0) around here, it is surely discouraging intelligent conversation as valuable users stop wanting to sift through a haystack looking for the needle.

They'd have to be some very dedicated scammers but I suppose they're out there. Sold account would get sniffed out pretty rapidly I would've thought.

There is most likely always going to be some sort of con(s). We just have to weight the pros against them. You can't really 'step up your game' as a required amount of time needs to pass in order to achieve the Legendary rank.

They usually do, yes.

Sometimes, they are discovered too late.
I am thinking of master-P's account (although there is some debate about whether it was sold or not).

This might be new forum stuff, but maybe just add an option to hide all/show only posts from specific user ranks.

The person who scammed behind master-p's account was the original owner of the account. However he sold his master-p account a few months after creating it, only to buy it back later at a higher rank only to start farming trust on it.

I don't think it is usually glaringly obvious when a high level account is sold and I don't think a legendary only sub will help with that