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We see Primedice and we see rollin model which in my opinon the most creative by now ,
Give more ideas to completely new game ..

Maybe use the voucher as fastdice or lower house edge
Sorry just curious what purpose you created this thread ? you want to make a site Dice

Yeah, you must have a bigger capital to promote your dice site to the market first
Than thinking your design in my own opinion :)

You want to make a new gambling game, you should look at this thread it has a nice idea.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1440452.msg14582663

this can be good but that site looks akward

Bitsler is good example how bitcoin dice should be

make it unique put some design like girls holding the dice or make it virtually moving
almost all dice games have the same looks so might invest with the design and creativity
for me and make it sure that you have a big bankroll before starting it.

Thanks gyo9i, we are working hard for it.

William

That site looks really good in terms of UI / UX but there is nothing creative there, just copy from PrimeDice and changed a little bit.

The main diffidence I found is for deposit and withdrawal they need just 0 confirmation but personally never tried to deposit or withdraw yet. Apart from that their free faucet money is also slightly better then other competitor and finally they have a flash mode, which can bet around 50 bets per second. But this how much helpful for gamblers, I don't have any idea.

In primedice and rollin, if you bet 50%, you either choose 0 to 50 or 51 to 100. I want to choose 25 to 75. Like if you want to bet 90% you either choose 0 to 10 or 91 to 100. I want to choose in between.

About the withdrawal. Put option to withdaw to paypal/moneygram/neteller/western union.

We need new dice game with make it diffrent and unique
dont seems like other dice site. But Deposit and Withdrawal Instant
Invest option with many as cryptocurrency.

agree with that,so far primedice and rollin.io become role model of bicoin dice game,and they have good effort to make promotions,giveaway and active in this forum will give them many benefit.

i see there is a dice site , one year ago with invest option . but im forget which site , bcoz im not bookmark it

There is bubblesbit on moneypot which is the most unique dice game imho, they have different design where players can see bubbles moving up while betting till the bubbles burst hit the multiplier.

Setting withdrawal services is not easy task.
The reason no Bitcoin related casino (I am not sure about FIAT operating casinos out there) is not using PayPal and other corporate centralized services etc. as their payment processor service is because it is not possible from the legal point of view. For example if you are US Citizen and you use PayPal to fund your online casino account you can be prosecuted as online gambling is illegal in the US.

Simpler, lower house edge, great promo and ither stuffs that other dice sites don't promote. You gotta have those if you want your dice game to be more popular than those who are already popular today. I have seen a couple of dice but I agreed that none beats PD.

House Edge is not always the key for making your Dice site ultra popular.
People tends to ignore HE for most of the time if House Edge is around 1% then they don't care if it is 0.1% or 1%.
There are multiple legit Dice sites I know with 0.1% House Edge and they are not the biggest and well known.

All you can do is to make or find someone to make it from scratch, use better UI, less house edge, faster rolls and last but not the least a lot of promotion and giveaways to attract crowd's attention. It'd be hard but you can create a space for yourself if you do it right.

As for the bitsler mentioned above, haven't tried it yet but I see they're accepting 0 confirmation deposits? Don't know why anyone would do this, that's like asking to get robbed.

You make it with simple desaign, fair play,  deposit and withdrawal very fast and invest option LTC, DOGE and, ETH

Provably Fair system is implemented in every serious gambling service nowadays - I think it is sufficient way of checking if site is totally 'fair play'.
And I feel that as for deposit we need to can't have 0 confirmation system anymore as it leads to exploits with double spending.
Same with withdrawals - sometimes a security check is needed if we are talking about higher bets.

Try making a dice game where the user can see a 3D dice rolling. Just an idea though, instead of just seeing pure numbers in dice game, try making it 3D as if the user is really rolling a physical dice. :D

While this concept of fully 3D animated Dice is alluring. I feel like majority of gamblers don't care about flashy graphics, they want solid, secure and fast experience.
This concept will be probably only good to entice newer players and only for a while, until they will bored with repeating animations. In the end I don't think that cost of developing 3D game will be returned in profits.

Just an idea though to attract new and/or more gamblers. I bet a little touch of 3D is better than having those dice sites that only have letters and numbers.

well you can try accepting many cryptocurrencies instead of only bitcoin, implementing faucets for people to try :D lowering the house edge can make a difference too ;D maybe you can create a random giveaway like after 5-10 minutes a player from a game ID will receive a amount of bitcoin despite small but it should at least want them to earn more :D

If you are want to get start with dice game than it must be unique and made from scratch, graphics and user interface is also very important it must simple and easy to use, low house edge and some interesting promotion will bring some good result toward this new business.

I thought dice game had perfect is not necessary to add something maybe you just change the design, layout. And more important if you build dice game site with transparency fair bet.

Yes I agree with every post here so far. There are way way too many dice games. Most casinos have other alternative gambling games to not make people bored.

All dice games are provavbly fair anyways so it won't make much difference. Avoid dice websites for now and try something new. Like binary options

Throwing a giveaway that frequent can only be done if your gambling site has tons of players and a bunch of big players AKA whales. Otherwise, you're gambling site is destined to go bankrupt.

the intervals between each giveaway should be random and it must suitable with the fund he has to have for the giveaway. For example, $4 worth bitcoin ever 1-3 hours

Why everyone always the graphics and houseedge? I dont think that it will affect much although it is a simple one for graphic and low housedge? They will set it to the 1% lowest that is the standard one as I know and why do I say that it wont affect much because house edge only apply on long run which mean long run you will end up losing too so it will not affect that much

You just said 5-10 minutes and now you're saying 1-3 hours? I understand your point that giveaways may have a chance to make the gamblers bet more frequent. But given that 5-10 minutes of giveaway, people will make tons of dummy accounts and stay online in that gambling site and wait for one of their dummy accounts to get a giveaway. This will be a passive income for them.

But if the giveaway is considerably low to the point that making dummy accounts wouldn't be worth the effort, that shouldn't be a problem for the owners. However given that if the giveaway is considerably low, that wouldn't attract many gamblers at all.

The biggest problem with creating a new dice idea is that you need to somehow be trustworthy enough and have enough of a bankroll to attract whales.
With a 1% house edge, most sites will struggle to stay afloat. The huge spenders will generally go to established places (JD/PD)

For you to be able to make any new dice game, you have to be willing to run on almost no profits for some time as most people putting in money won't even come close to the amount of money you lose by giving away things to try to get new users.

Most giveaways are low to the point that making dummy accounts isn't worth the effort. For example, primedice gives away 0.000002, which is a bit under a tenth of a cent.
As far as I know, giveaways offer people a way to test out the site before putting in any money of their own. Maybe to see if they find using the site fun before they deposit any actual BTC.

can they make enough dummy account to win the odds? The solution to solve the problem is quite easy I have to say: captcha(quite ineffective), prohibit VPN, proxy, or you can combine with mail verification to make sure there wont be any dummy accounts.

Yeah a giveaway is good PR for an extra campaign. I would advice to add several campaigns at the same time and assign several persons to handle those campaign.
Else their time get flooded and users will lose faith.

Mail verification might work but I think phone verification is much better because apparently, one person can hold tons of gmail accounts.




If it's considerably low then there's no point in hiring a programmer for an automated giveaway because it wouldn't lighten the gamblers' mood at all. Like, if a gambler just lost all his money. And then he got chosen as a 'lucky' winner of the giveaway that has a prize that is considerably low, that might just piss the gambler. Thus, making him leave the site completely. Just an IMO though. Giveaways should be helpful in getting back what a gambler has lost.

Why we don't have opportunity for speeding time of dice play, for example if you want to play 100 small bets why do i need whole minute for this job? Also we would be very happy if have chance to more influence on flow of automatic bets..For example if you losing, to automatic stop after default number is reached..Not when you lost everything..

There's this feature 'Stop betting when max bet reached' in BustaBit and in Primedice, that helps stop the bot from betting tons of money especially if you're doing martingale.

But anyway, if you can do some basic programming, you can easily do that 'after losing certain amount of money' in BustaBit. Not to advertise or smth, just my experience. I don't play on other betting sites that much. But I think there are dice sites that enables users to write their own script as well. Some dice sites might already have that in their auto-bet options. :D

I cant agree more with you my friend ;D anti proxy and VPN might be a cheaper solution to this as phone verification requires you to send a lot of international message which can cost you a fortune.

If you make a site that's Bticoin related and it's anti privacy (and by anti privacy I mean anti proxies, anti vpn, anti tor... you name it) it's always going to get bad rep amongst its users because Bitcoin is about privacy, so it's always recommended that when you are making the design of a site, it will be compatible with proxies.

As I know that Yobit is using those to stop users from spamming it and many are still using. In my opinion, people will have no problem with it at all. Proxies and VPN mostly is for spamming and cloning. I know Yobit is just one example but it's still need considering here

Yup, a gambling site does not depend on the latest innovations/the latest games, but it depends on the manejemen Site and they do have a large bankroll. If that's all you can do is sure you'll have a popular site. But if you want to beat the popularity of PD then you must have a unique thing that is not owned by the PD.

I think it's most common to put captcha in claiming free bits or satoshi. Email verification that only accepts the legit email providers would be nice as sometimes, email verification can be bypassed by using trash mail providers.

we are talking about giving away to a random member every few hours so captcha here is to preventing abusers from cloning account to increase the odd to win. yes legit email providers only can someone limit the ability that they will create tons of account ;D

I think this is not an innovation and was more to provide security in a bitcoin free so there isn't a lot of fake accounts with it anyway. An innovation is indeed necessary but an innovation requires a needs someone around the us as well as gambling, we should be looking for an excuse to do innovation and we must ask what case gamblers that haven't they get and after that we are just looking for a way out to find a new innovation

maybe this may be not an innovation. But this can be an idea that can help create a new dice game. This is just still an idea so there, of course, will have many problems needed to be solved. An idea that can both attract gamblers and save owner's money is quite hard so yep I am still suggesting here :D

if you are looking for ideas about a new game then you are better looking for a new game and not dice, there is just a lot of different dice sites that are actually good too.

but if you design a good game other than dice and be the first person to do it then you will have an edge because you will be unique.

Using multiple altcoins in your site might be the excelent choice, you must have unique features that really different than pd or rollin, like instant deposite or withdrawal, giveaway and unique promotion, eye catching site, responsive either on pc or mobile and so on , good luck

I would love to learn more about zero house edge or negative house edge. If the house edge is stated like below doesn't that mean the owner will lose the money or lose a lot of money

Seeing how Dice players are mostly about speed betting and and have zero lag policy during bets. I think 3D Dice would be a waste of effort.
Thrill of hit or miss your bet is enough for most of us. I don't want to wait until animation is done just to see how my rolls are.

It is really hard to make a new game because of dice. There are quite a few sites that have tried and created games that are different and have many unique features but people still prefer to play dice, if that attitude changes at some point then maybe we will get some new and innovative games.

i don't think it is going to lead the house to lose. house edge just gives the house slight edge to win more. with 0 house edge if i am not mistaken the win chance of 2x multiplier will be 50% instead of 49.9%-49.5% so the only difference is the 0.1-0.5% change but there is still 50% chance you lose and house takes your money.

The thing is that the house edge is taken every time you bet.
Without a house edge, the house will still stagnate in the long run or will end up with an overall loss with a negative house edge.

The only reason gambling sites can make profits despite having such small house edges of 1% is the law of large numbers, wherein eventually, profit is expected. 0 to negative house edge may be possible as a short term idea but will always fail in the long run.

Yes that's true however I am pretty sure gambling sites can still make a good living with 0% house edge. They would still make money because of people's emotions, HOWEVER people would cheat and use bots instead which would benefit the 0% house edge.

Negative houseedge still would be a good promo .

I will love to see multiplayer games.

this is a very good suggestion.
but it only benefits the players not the owner of the dice site.
if i am not mistaken primedice use to have a p2p game where you could invite another person to bet against you but they stopped it and removed the option from the site. i think it was because of no house edge there and no profit for the site.

With this i have mentioned, you have much more chances, and losses are smaller.
I have found few bots for Primedice bat i had some problems with configuring it properly. But i doubt anyone will integrate this into their platform.

Multiplayer in Casino only could be done with proper matchmaking, because there is risk of players working together and exploiting the system somehow.
And it is as you said multiplayer dice not really benefit the House, unless casino will tax games or withdrawals/deposits somehow which can be pretty interesting if it was something like 1%.

i doubt if OP can get any good ideas out of this topic that works for him.

because if someone has an idea in this field which is good then they would use it themselves to make money and not share it with others.

anyways i think you should not think about dice anymore and plan on creating other gambling games.

I would like to also see some sort of multiplayer competitive game that's simple and fun. Battlecoin was a great approximation of this concept, too bad that they stopped the development and now the development is frozen until the developer can find more time and money for it. I would like some arcade type fighting game or a racing game in also arcade style.

actually i didn't see any good idea for new dice sites because basically all dice sites was like almost similar and also almost same but i think if you will made new dice sites you can emulate from those sites

I love simple concept so when I accessing the site, it will not cause loading or lag.
And the most important is the dice absolutely trustable and not cheating.

Maybe add new atmosphere like adding background music or rolling sound effect ( you may have disable option if people do not want to use it )

I see Primedice as a leader in this kind of business so i believe they will be very interested to hear what users
would like to do or see on their platform.. Normally they won't do something on their harm.