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Title: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Severian on February 18, 2013, 07:40:16 AM
From reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/18pjw4/bitcoin_the_best_tools_have_more_than_one_purpose/). I like #7.

Bitcoin is:

1.) a currency
2.) a distributed and verifiable public ledger
3.) a payment processing network
4.) a triple-entry accounting system
5.) a store of wealth
6.) a cryptosig creation and verification device
7.) a personal offshore bank account

If you can think of anything else that Bitcoin is, please add it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Mike Christ on February 18, 2013, 07:42:09 AM
a key to the cuffs


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Melbustus on February 18, 2013, 08:07:55 AM
8.) The first monetary system to credibly offer perfect information to all participants


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Bit_Happy on February 18, 2013, 08:35:41 AM
An amazing, revolutionary, sustainable new type of Ponzi scheme.   :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Lethn on February 18, 2013, 08:38:11 AM
9. The greatest form of peaceful protest ever devised


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: smoothie on February 18, 2013, 08:43:39 AM
10. A color
11. An element


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: payb.tc on February 18, 2013, 08:47:17 AM
12) a way of life


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Severian on February 18, 2013, 08:54:31 AM
13.) a revolutionary means of storing and accessing dynamic information.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Akka on February 18, 2013, 08:56:12 AM
14.) A Religion


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Severian on February 18, 2013, 09:51:39 AM
14.) A Religion

True, in an odd way.

The word "religion" is thought to be derived from religare, meaning to bind fast. The root of the form also gave us "liege", "allegiance", etc. The Sanskrit word dharma means both "law" and "religion". What we call ancient religion in Asia, Egypt and elsewhere, the people of the time would have just called law.

Everyone using bitcoins is agreeing to be bound by certain laws of mathematics. We're all economically bound to the same laws by using Bitcoin.

Historically, whoever issues the money gets treated like a minor god. The Roman emperors and the various chairmen of the Federal Reserve prove the point. The first mints were temples and the word for "money" even comes from the temple of Juno Moneta, moneta being Latin for "mint".

Bitcoin removes the temptation to godhood as there is no issuer. It might be the most revolutionary thing about the tech.

Damn...sorry for the rant.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Endgame on February 18, 2013, 10:51:10 AM
15.) A global distributed computing project.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Killdozer on February 18, 2013, 02:59:02 PM
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The first monetary system to credibly offer perfect information to all participants
How do you figure?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Saturn7 on February 18, 2013, 03:04:14 PM
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The first monetary system to credibly offer perfect information to all participants
How do you figure?

Everybody has a copy of the blockchain?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Gabi on February 18, 2013, 03:26:08 PM
9. The greatest form of peaceful protest ever devised
I love this!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Severian on February 18, 2013, 03:54:52 PM
9. The greatest form of peaceful protest ever devised
I love this!

Me too. It could be also be seen as:

16.) The first consensual economic system


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Littleshop on February 18, 2013, 04:09:43 PM
17 ) The in game currency for the internet.  (or just "the currency of the internet")


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza on February 18, 2013, 04:11:13 PM
18.) Fun


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Killdozer on February 18, 2013, 04:39:27 PM
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Everybody has a copy of the blockchain?
So? You still don't know which accounts belong to whom, and sometimes you don't even know things like which part is the change and which is payment.
Pretty far from "perfect information".


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Vandroiy on February 18, 2013, 04:39:40 PM
19.) The world's largest internet security experiment


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Severian on February 18, 2013, 04:45:54 PM
So? You still don't know which accounts belong to whom, and sometimes you don't even know things like which part is the change and which is payment.
Pretty far from "perfect information".

But we all know whose coins are whose after the transaction. That's all the perfect information we need.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Killdozer on February 18, 2013, 04:47:51 PM
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But we all know whose coins are whose after the transaction. That's all the perfect information we need.
How do you know that? Does the recepient's name magically appear in the block chain?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Severian on February 18, 2013, 04:51:35 PM
How do you know that? Does the recepient's name magically appear in the block chain?

You can get that functionality, sure:

http://blockchain.info/tags


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Severian on February 18, 2013, 09:03:55 PM
Per Tony Gallippi: (http://www.pymnts.com/briefing-room/PYMNTS-International/2013/02/How-Owning-Bitcoin-Is-Owning-An-ETF-On-The-Whole-Bitcoin-Space/?utm_campaign=how-owning-bitcoin-is-owning-an-etf-on-the-whole-bitcoin-space)

20. ) "Bitcoin, the currency and the payment network, is itself an Exchange Traded Fund (ETF) on the whole bitcoin space."


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: johnyj on February 18, 2013, 10:13:17 PM
21.) A blackhole


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Melbustus on February 18, 2013, 10:13:25 PM
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Everybody has a copy of the blockchain?
So? You still don't know which accounts belong to whom, and sometimes you don't even know things like which part is the change and which is payment.
Pretty far from "perfect information".


No. Who's paid whom is not the monetary system. Monetary systems are typically primarily defined by the money creation and distribution properties, which ARE *perfectly* known in bitcoin. Other systems may purport to offer near perfect information (eq, a gov that says "we will never devalue our currency"), but obviously such declarations are not credible. Even the gold standard had an imprecision component in that it can't be known how much is going to be "discovered" or "mined" in any given future timeframe.

To be more clear for those who may not correctly intuit the term "monetary system":
Bitcoin is the first monetary system to credibly offer perfect money-supply dynamics information to all participants.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: knight22 on February 19, 2013, 12:45:13 AM

To be more clear for those who may not correctly intuit the term "monetary system":
Bitcoin is the first monetary system to credibly offer perfect money-supply dynamics information to all participants.

This


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: grondilu on February 19, 2013, 03:37:07 AM
22) a distributed timestamping system


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: MashRinx on February 19, 2013, 04:27:02 AM
14.) A Religion

True, in an odd way.

The word "religion" is thought to be derived from religare, meaning to bind fast. The root of the form also gave us "liege", "allegiance", etc. The Sanskrit word dharma means both "law" and "religion". What we call ancient religion in Asia, Egypt and elsewhere, the people of the time would have just called law.

Everyone using bitcoins is agreeing to be bound by certain laws of mathematics. We're all economically bound to the same laws by using Bitcoin.

Historically, whoever issues the money gets treated like a minor god. The Roman emperors and the various chairmen of the Federal Reserve prove the point. The first mints were temples and the word for "money" even comes from the temple of Juno Moneta, moneta being Latin for "mint".

Bitcoin removes the temptation to godhood as there is no issuer. It might be the most revolutionary thing about the tech.

Damn...sorry for the rant.


I stand....educated.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: goldlyre on February 19, 2013, 05:30:11 AM
23) An Aladdin's Magic Lamp in the 21st Century


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: Killdozer on February 19, 2013, 02:14:42 PM
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Bitcoin is the first monetary system to credibly offer perfect money-supply dynamics information to all participants.
Yep, this formulation is much better.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: TheButterZone on February 20, 2013, 01:20:39 AM
The Sixth Element.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Is:
Post by: netrin on February 20, 2013, 01:30:29 AM
14.) A Religion

Everyone using bitcoins is agreeing to be bound by certain laws of mathematics. We're all economically bound to the same laws by using Bitcoin.

We do not _agree_ to be bound by mathematics. It is only because many have tried and failed that we have confidence in our understanding of the mathematics.