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Title: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: crazy-igzo on April 26, 2016, 01:39:44 AM
hey guys.
I really appreciate it if anyone tell me why BTC is rising, and why the altcoins are being dumped. how are they connected? is the btc mining difficulty augmenting a factor?
should I abandon the altcoins for now?
thanks ;)


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: nikelad on April 26, 2016, 01:55:01 AM
Probably it is the upcoming halving. Just like  the event of litecoin halving last year. It is normal. Bitcoin and altcoin's price movement are in the two directions.


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: jt byte on April 26, 2016, 03:51:44 AM
Probably it is the upcoming halving. Just like  the event of litecoin halving last year. It is normal. Bitcoin and altcoin's price movement are in the two directions.
This especially and the selling off of bitcoin in droves. It just hit $470 on my price ticker and should be $475 by morning if it keeps up like this.


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: mookid on April 26, 2016, 04:09:53 AM
hey guys.
I really appreciate it if anyone tell me why BTC is rising, and why the altcoins are being dumped. how are they connected? is the btc mining difficulty augmenting a factor?
should I abandon the altcoins for now?
thanks ;)

It's a difficult question to answer. Bitcoin transitioned from being an asset used to buy things to an investment opportunity. Traders populate the exchanges, they see Bitcoin as a mean to gain profit, I don't think this a bad thing, but I do believe that this makes the price movements erratic, more volatile, and sometimes it doesn't even track or follow the fundamentals (news about the Bitcoin ecosystem, core protocol, bad PR, etc).
It is also sad to see people holding onto bitcoins as if by using it they are losing money.
If you really want to support the bitcoin movement, buy some, save a part, and start spending it to buy things or pay for services.


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: h3rlihy on April 26, 2016, 04:12:15 AM
It's impossible to actually nail down exactly what has caused this recent significant growth in price. But I personally preferred the stability


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: Herbert2020 on April 26, 2016, 05:12:28 AM
you should have asked why bitcoin price was stable, the rise was inevitable and that is why it is happening. and as for altcoins, which one do you mean is getting dumped?

it is a different reason for different coins, for example eth which has a lot of hype and was the biggest for the last couple of months is being dumped because it was a pump and dump coin and even the developers are dumping and getting out.

as for others, you have to say which one you means so i can help you figure it out.


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: Amph on April 26, 2016, 05:41:27 AM
combinations of good news, like the upcomign segwit, the upcoming bitcoin payment for steam, the halving etc, it's all about the hype for soemthing that make you exited, this is true everyhwere, trading is not excluded

but i guess only the fish do trade with emotions...


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: ingenuity on April 26, 2016, 07:03:25 AM
combinations of good news, like the upcomign segwit, the upcoming bitcoin payment for steam, the halving etc, it's all about the hype for soemthing that make you exited, this is true everyhwere, trading is not excluded

but i guess only the fish do trade with emotions...
Im waiting for the bitcoin payment in steam, And also bitcoin halving,,


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: crazywack on April 26, 2016, 07:07:44 AM
Low volume rise might be caused by a lack of bitcoins being sent to sell by miners as they are anticipating a price rise with the halving.

A combo of this, development on the network, good news.

Alts get dumped every time BTC goes up. Simple as that... People want to take gains on BTC so sell out of alts. True traders buy more alts when these dumps happen.


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: 1Referee on April 26, 2016, 07:14:15 AM
It's the block halving that makes people buy some quick coins as they see the price is still sitting below $500 at the moment. Altcoins have had enough shine last months, especially ETH. People cash them out as they want to hold Bitcoin.


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: tiggytomb on April 26, 2016, 07:15:39 AM
To pinpoint an exact reason would be hard, probably the halving coming up, news of Steam and I think Bitstamp just got their EU wide license so all of this could be the reasoning.

As far as the altcoins I would imagine that people would be dumping their coins to get some bitcoin ahead of the halving.


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: ricardobs on April 26, 2016, 11:27:59 AM
One probable reason would be that people are starting to hoard in bitcoins because of the stigma that bitcoin value is expected to go up by the time of the halving.
Another is because of bitcoins being integrated in many businesses and platforms in the world.


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: Scream on April 26, 2016, 11:30:42 AM
Bitcoin increased the possibility for halving effect and why altcoins dump? because people move to trade bitcoin, when bitcoin prices are rising. IMO


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: crazy-igzo on April 26, 2016, 11:02:59 PM
Probably it is the upcoming halving. Just like  the event of litecoin halving last year. It is normal. Bitcoin and altcoin's price movement are in the two directions.
This especially and the selling off of bitcoin in droves. It just hit $470 on my price ticker and should be $475 by morning if it keeps up like this.
I think it will keep going up, to hit 500$ and more. which mean I should get rid of my Altcoins and minimize my losses. and wait for the bitcoin rise to stabilize. then buy Altcoins when they are cheaper and wait for them to hit a high price.


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 26, 2016, 11:09:44 PM
Probably it is the upcoming halving. Just like  the event of litecoin halving last year. It is normal. Bitcoin and altcoin's price movement are in the two directions.
Ehhhh, don't know about this.  I do think there's a relationship between btc and all the shitcoins but I suspect that it's not a simple one.  And I'm not convinced the price movement of late has anything to do with the halving.  If movement happens before the event, it is being priced in.  And who's to say that that hasn't already happened??


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: crazy-igzo on April 26, 2016, 11:10:40 PM
hey guys.
I really appreciate it if anyone tell me why BTC is rising, and why the altcoins are being dumped. how are they connected? is the btc mining difficulty augmenting a factor?
should I abandon the altcoins for now?
thanks ;)

It's a difficult question to answer. Bitcoin transitioned from being an asset used to buy things to an investment opportunity. Traders populate the exchanges, they see Bitcoin as a mean to gain profit, I don't think this a bad thing, but I do believe that this makes the price movements erratic, more volatile, and sometimes it doesn't even track or follow the fundamentals (news about the Bitcoin ecosystem, core protocol, bad PR, etc).
It is also sad to see people holding onto bitcoins as if by using it they are losing money.
If you really want to support the bitcoin movement, buy some, save a part, and start spending it to buy things or pay for services.

I have the same way of thinking, holding bitcoin would give more profits, in a matter fact it is not sad, if i had bought BTC when the price was 409$, and now the price is 470$ I would gain more profits, I do agree with them. but who am I to say that you are not right I'm just a Newbie. btw I don't think I'm going to spend any :P not yet anyway.
but  i really don't get why the Altcoins price is drooping.


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: mixan on April 26, 2016, 11:12:56 PM
Thought I saw it hit $477. But now it is back down to $466 when I sold some. It can only mean that it is not at a stable price yet, just wait for a week or until April is done.


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: crazy-igzo on April 26, 2016, 11:16:29 PM
you should have asked why bitcoin price was stable, the rise was inevitable and that is why it is happening. and as for altcoins, which one do you mean is getting dumped?

it is a different reason for different coins, for example eth which has a lot of hype and was the biggest for the last couple of months is being dumped because it was a pump and dump coin and even the developers are dumping and getting out.

as for others, you have to say which one you means so i can help you figure it out.

so ETH is going down for good.  ???
so many coins are going down not just ETH btw, Maidsade for exemple, according to the chart. I don't know if the coin is being dumped. but it's going down.
and before that FCT had huge fall.


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: Quartx on April 26, 2016, 11:17:57 PM
Well for many, altcoins are simply quick ways to get fast profits and exchange to BTC. Say u buy xcoin for 0.000001 each with 0.5 BTC, a pump by fakers to 0.0000015 would get u a profit of 0.25. With the halfing near, people are dumping enmass to get back into BTC before halfing and so they can get cheap altcoins after that for the repeated cycle


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: crazy-igzo on April 26, 2016, 11:21:24 PM
combinations of good news, like the upcomign segwit, the upcoming bitcoin payment for steam, the halving etc, it's all about the hype for soemthing that make you exited, this is true everyhwere, trading is not excluded

but i guess only the fish do trade with emotions...

trading needs research, I agree. but trading now is hard, with all these unpredictable prices.


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: crazy-igzo on April 26, 2016, 11:23:30 PM
Low volume rise might be caused by a lack of bitcoins being sent to sell by miners as they are anticipating a price rise with the halving.

A combo of this, development on the network, good news.

Alts get dumped every time BTC goes up. Simple as that... People want to take gains on BTC so sell out of alts. True traders buy more alts when these dumps happen.

that's the idea I guess. buy more when it's cheep.


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: maokoto on April 26, 2016, 11:31:50 PM
Ummmm never thought of buying some more alts when BTC goes up. I guess that I will try to apply that. Thanks.


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: bitboy11 on April 27, 2016, 12:02:52 AM
What's causing the pump?
Speculation my friend. :P


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: zimmah on April 27, 2016, 01:43:10 AM
hey guys.
I really appreciate it if anyone tell me why BTC is rising, and why the altcoins are being dumped. how are they connected? is the btc mining difficulty augmenting a factor?
should I abandon the altcoins for now?
thanks ;)

the trust in bitcoin has returned a bit since segwit and other developments show that scaling is not an issue.

Also, there is some FOMO (fear of missing out) with people who held altcoins, they expect bitcoin to rise because of the halving (or because of people anticipating a pump before or after the halving) and want to be on the rocket before it takes off, assuming it does take off.

and probably other reasons.


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: wedatin on May 04, 2016, 07:02:11 AM
hey guys.
I really appreciate it if anyone tell me why BTC is rising, and why the altcoins are being dumped. how are they connected? is the btc mining difficulty augmenting a factor?
should I abandon the altcoins for now?
thanks ;)

the trust in bitcoin has returned a bit since segwit and other developments show that scaling is not an issue.

Also, there is some FOMO (fear of missing out) with people who held altcoins, they expect bitcoin to rise because of the halving (or because of people anticipating a pump before or after the halving) and want to be on the rocket before it takes off, assuming it does take off.

and probably other reasons.

I also think the SegWit is the cause of the recent mini pump. Although that price rise is short lived. It proves people are still watching.


Title: Re: what's causing the BTC surge.
Post by: Yesterdam on May 17, 2016, 06:26:38 PM
The Etherueum and the bitcoin is a good trading pair. When the Etheruem is high, you sell for bitcoin, vice versa.