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Title: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: Johnny00 on April 28, 2016, 12:46:22 PM
litecoin will drop as well but will the other altcoins rise? I feel bitcoin price will drop, just a matter of time.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: merelcoin on April 28, 2016, 12:49:08 PM
litecoin will drop as well but will the other altcoins rise? I feel bitcoin price will drop, just a matter of time.

Most altcoins cannot be bought directly. You need to buy BTC and exchange your BTC for alt's (there are a couple exceptions to this rule tough). In my opinion, this means that when bitcoin drops, the actual USD or € value of the altcoin will drop to, eventough the exchangerate BTC/ALT might rise, the actual price will most likely plummet and follow BTC.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: Johnny00 on April 28, 2016, 02:23:26 PM
Are you invested in anything?


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: SharkCoinerHD on April 28, 2016, 02:25:34 PM
Most altcoins are bought with bitcoin, so if bitcoin goes down it'll take the alt coins with it.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: HeroCat on April 28, 2016, 02:30:20 PM
Bitcoin is stable, it can not crash so easy. A lot of BTC mining farms are working around the clock, and BTC have worldwide coverage.  ;)


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: fortunecrypto on April 28, 2016, 02:34:07 PM
litecoin will drop as well but will the other altcoins rise? I feel bitcoin price will drop, just a matter of time.

Just what all experts are predicting how much bitcoin price increase will be this year you are predicting it to go down,what made you come out with that prediction I don't think it will go down this year any year but not this year


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: Johnny00 on April 28, 2016, 02:41:37 PM
i'm a fan of the technology but it's still trying to decide if store or wealth or used as currency. 90% of the board think bitcoin will jump after July but just like the stock market, when everyone is going one way the market takes it down.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: klarki on April 28, 2016, 04:27:55 PM
Dear, and why you have decided that the price of Bitcoin will fall?
you possess information that is not available to others?
I'm just wondering where those conclusions, I would like specifics.
But many of us, on the contrary expect growth in the near future.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: Ultrabat on April 28, 2016, 04:39:37 PM
litecoin will drop as well but will the other altcoins rise? I feel bitcoin price will drop, just a matter of time.

Most altcoins cannot be bought directly. You need to buy BTC and exchange your BTC for alt's (there are a couple exceptions to this rule tough). In my opinion, this means that when bitcoin drops, the actual USD or € value of the altcoin will drop to, eventough the exchangerate BTC/ALT might rise, the actual price will most likely plummet and follow BTC.

There some markets based on altcoins. For example, in Poloniex, you can buy several coins with Monero.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: Red-Apple on April 28, 2016, 04:45:19 PM
litecoin will drop as well but will the other altcoins rise? I feel bitcoin price will drop, just a matter of time.

i have said this before about other altcoins going down because of bitcoin rising. now this is just reverse:

in my experience there are only a handful of altcoins like LTC that will be affected by bitcoin price and the rest are doing their thing, and even if they get affected it will be small.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: crossabdd on April 28, 2016, 04:48:00 PM
litecoin will drop as well but will the other altcoins rise? I feel bitcoin price will drop, just a matter of time.
some of which I have seen and experienced, whereby when the price of bitcoin down, altcoin prices always rise and vice versa when the price of bitcoin increases, price altcoins decreases.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: Nxtblg on April 28, 2016, 09:54:47 PM
Most altcoins are bought with bitcoin, so if bitcoin goes down it'll take the alt coins with it.

Yep: that's exactly what happened in the latter half of '14 and moreso last year.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: Snail2 on April 28, 2016, 10:00:21 PM
litecoin will drop as well but will the other altcoins rise? I feel bitcoin price will drop, just a matter of time.

No. All alts are almost pegged to bitcoin. There are no alt what have a real word economy behind it, what would make it independent. If bitcoin drops everything else will go down as well.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: kiklo on April 28, 2016, 11:14:29 PM
litecoin will drop as well but will the other altcoins rise? I feel bitcoin price will drop, just a matter of time.

No. All alts are almost pegged to bitcoin. There are no alt what have a real word economy behind it, what would make it independent. If bitcoin drops everything else will go down as well.

Nope,   :)

BTC could disappear tomorrow and ALT coins with strong communities would continue on.
LTC & Doge would immediately become the main trading pairs instead of BTC, and not because they hold anything special,
it is just they already have Fiat trading pairs setup , so they would be switched to the quickest.

Crypto Revolution is underway, it does not matter if one falls, another will takes it's place quickly.  :D

 8)
 

VIVA CRYPTO REVOLUTION  :D
http://38.media.tumblr.com/5649ef3b48513cfa6f6d2965ff800597/tumblr_inline_n87aa36p1W1qz65iu.jpg


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: BitcoinNational on April 29, 2016, 10:16:12 AM
https://i.imgur.com/sIBLO69.png


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: Amph on April 29, 2016, 10:35:19 AM
so you think that bitcoin will drop, after it increase by 100% from 200 since months? you are not doing a good prediction, there is basically zero chance that it will drop, there are more chance that it will stay there or it will increase a bit


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: Johnny00 on April 29, 2016, 10:36:14 AM
so you think that bitcoin will drop, after it increase by 100% from 200 since months? you are not doing a good prediction, there is basically zero chance that it will drop, there are more chance that it will stay there or it will increase a bit

Market correction


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: Wapinter on April 29, 2016, 10:38:08 AM
Most altcoins are bought with bitcoin, so if bitcoin goes down it'll take the alt coins with it.
In that case wouldn't price of bitcoin go up?Dont we have to pay more btc to buy same amount of bitcoin?


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: r0ach on April 29, 2016, 10:51:01 AM
What a shit thread.  This "Goldcoin" guy is claiming he's Satoshi, and another lunatic is hyping broken PoS scamcoins claiming BTC could go to 0 and alts that were designed from the ground up as scams wouldn't.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: arbitrage on April 29, 2016, 10:57:59 AM
Who promised to us that will BTC survive or become new world currency? Actually everything related to bitcoin is based on beliefs and expectations.. This can be very dangerous because people investing real money (savings or similar). But we are safe for now, and probably in next few years.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: Pitchblackroom on April 29, 2016, 11:15:37 AM
Altcoins are generally dependent on Bitcoin, even Ethereum which is lauded as a currency that has no real Bitcoin backing had funding via Bitcoin.
So, really if the entire ship sinks it will take down everything with it unfortunately.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: jethrorn99 on April 29, 2016, 05:51:00 PM
Altcoins are generally dependent on Bitcoin, even Ethereum which is lauded as a currency that has no real Bitcoin backing had funding via Bitcoin.
So, really if the entire ship sinks it will take down everything with it unfortunately.
ETH living alone as the biggest cryptocurrency... i cant even imagine it.

The market of altcoin will crash if bitcoin crashes.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 29, 2016, 06:05:54 PM
litecoin will drop as well but will the other altcoins rise? I feel bitcoin price will drop, just a matter of time.

Most altcoins cannot be bought directly. You need to buy BTC and exchange your BTC for alt's (there are a couple exceptions to this rule tough). In my opinion, this means that when bitcoin drops, the actual USD or € value of the altcoin will drop to, eventough the exchangerate BTC/ALT might rise, the actual price will most likely plummet and follow BTC.

There some markets based on altcoins. For example, in Poloniex, you can buy several coins with Monero.
Yeah, I'd like to see more of that--not Monero specifically, but I'd like to see more pairs trading.  But with all the altcoins on the market, man.  The trading would be pretty thin initially.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: Doamader on April 29, 2016, 07:34:32 PM
Altcoins are generally dependent on Bitcoin, even Ethereum which is lauded as a currency that has no real Bitcoin backing had funding via Bitcoin.
So, really if the entire ship sinks it will take down everything with it unfortunately.
ETH living alone as the biggest cryptocurrency... i cant even imagine it.

The market of altcoin will crash if bitcoin crashes.

If the bitcoin crashes, it means some wrong fundamentally. So all the cryptocurrencies will also crash.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: BitcoinNational on April 30, 2016, 08:12:24 AM
What price is crash?  $300? $200?


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: kiklo on April 30, 2016, 09:00:23 AM
What price is crash?  $300? $200?


In the Stock Market
Markets are generally thought to have crashed when prices drop by 10 percent or more in a given day.

So technically a BTC @$450, would be considered a crash if it loss $45 in 1 day.

However BTC is more volatile than stocks, so I would speculate it would have to lose 50% or more in 1 day for people in the forums to consider it a Crash.  :)
So anything ~$225 and below.

 8)

FYI:
Even if a crash to ~$225 , BTC Marketcap would still be over 3 Trillion Dollars, so that would not be the end of them.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: BitcoinHodler on April 30, 2016, 11:27:06 AM
litecoin will drop as well but will the other altcoins rise? I feel bitcoin price will drop, just a matter of time.

first of all i have to say that bitcoin price is not going to drop, corrections yes, shake down of weak hands well yes to that but drop no.

and as we saw from the recent shake down the litecoin price came back down from 0.009 to 0.0083 and now it is stuck and waiting for the rise again.

so i guess that answers your question on how it is going to react to any change in bitcoin price.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: arbitrage on April 30, 2016, 12:40:53 PM
We already had situation when in 2014 all alts had very bad day, when bitcoin started to decline, but with even small rise of it, everything was ok and this is why i don't even consider worst case scenario. This is just business!


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: BTCLovingDude on April 30, 2016, 01:08:51 PM
litecoin has already dropped after the recent pump, now i am just waiting for the bottom to buy back in because bitcoin will not crash, not anytime soon this year we will only see the rise of bitcoin and nothing else. these small dips are just shakedowns.

and to answer your question, litecoin will always follow bitcoin price up or down.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: jjacob on April 30, 2016, 01:41:59 PM
Right now Bitcoin is pretty much the cryptocoin market.
Bitcoin could crash due to 2 reasons - some alt gains traction or there is general disenchantment with Bitcoin. In the second case, I think the marketcap of entire crypto system would decrease.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: arbitrage on May 01, 2016, 02:44:03 PM
who would not like this to happen?
My next step would be buying as much as i can, buy - frenzy.
this will trigger and LTC dump, also this could be very good chance and for buying of many others coins that will recover very fast after bitcoin recovers..But probability is very small for this to happen, forget it!


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: Snail2 on May 01, 2016, 03:33:34 PM
BTC could disappear tomorrow and ALT coins with strong communities would continue on.
LTC & Doge would immediately become the main trading pairs instead of BTC, and not because they hold anything special,
it is just they already have Fiat trading pairs setup , so they would be switched to the quickest.

Crypto Revolution is underway, it does not matter if one falls, another will takes it's place quickly.  :D

Dream on :). Bitcoin is the only trusted crypto today. If it falls, the trust in the technology itself will fall, and it will take many years to rebuild that. Maybe in 10 years when other coins gained traction, you will be right but not in these days.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: kiklo on May 02, 2016, 02:20:42 AM
BTC could disappear tomorrow and ALT coins with strong communities would continue on.
LTC & Doge would immediately become the main trading pairs instead of BTC, and not because they hold anything special,
it is just they already have Fiat trading pairs setup , so they would be switched to the quickest.

Crypto Revolution is underway, it does not matter if one falls, another will takes it's place quickly.  :D

Dream on :). Bitcoin is the only trusted crypto today. If it falls, the trust in the technology itself will fall, and it will take many years to rebuild that. Maybe in 10 years when other coins gained traction, you will be right but not in these days.

You Trust BTC, which implies you Trust China , which that is your decision.  :)
(China Controls over 60% of BTC mining pools.)
But don't expect everyone to feel the same way.

All of the newer coins are faster than BTC and many just as stable,
placing the older slower BTC on a Holy Pedestal  is nothing more than nostalgia that holds no weight in the real world.

Example:
If BTC was a old car and you used it to travel to work everyday, and it died beyond repair , would you quit work,
No you would get another car. (And you would not wait 10 years to do so.)

We have all experienced the convenience of crypto and the idea that we all would give that up because BTC died , is foolish and naive.

As for Me, if BTC did end in the next year or so, I move to LTC & Doge without batting an eye and so would the exchanges & coinbase,
because they are in this for Profit not to worship at the alter of BTC.
In fact, I have already moved to Doge for micro payments as BTC is already a failure in that area.

 8)


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: arwin100 on May 02, 2016, 08:14:05 AM
BTC could disappear tomorrow and ALT coins with strong communities would continue on.
LTC & Doge would immediately become the main trading pairs instead of BTC, and not because they hold anything special,
it is just they already have Fiat trading pairs setup , so they would be switched to the quickest.

Crypto Revolution is underway, it does not matter if one falls, another will takes it's place quickly.  :D

Dream on :). Bitcoin is the only trusted crypto today. If it falls, the trust in the technology itself will fall, and it will take many years to rebuild that. Maybe in 10 years when other coins gained traction, you will be right but not in these days.
I think theirs a possibilities if that bitcion will  have a big crash and i think it happen if the halving well occur on this for example what if those who buy bitcoin @ a low price and holding big amount and waiting for halving because they speculates the price Increase of bitcoin anD when halving is occur i think many people do massive selling cause theey already earn a profit, massive selling well happen and thats after effect of halving and it have possinilities to affect bitcoin price.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: iv4n on May 02, 2016, 08:38:06 AM
litecoin will drop as well but will the other altcoins rise? I feel bitcoin price will drop, just a matter of time.

I see situation differently. Its just a matter of time before btc become much more accepted in this world, I also see that some alt coins will follow that rise. There is too much coins oiu there, and this technology is the future. Bitcoin make a way for them all and it's a leader of them all.

Few days ago I saw a nice thread ( look around, read something else then comic books) about ltc news, some people expect nice rise in some near future. I bought few coins and added to my ltc balance after reading that.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: kiklo on May 02, 2016, 08:39:20 AM
Better hope Wright is not Satoshi,
if so the world governments or just some con artists will get the access to satoshi wallet from him and crush the price of BTC.
Dumbest thing in the world to admit to it, I hate to think Satoshi is that stupid.


 8)


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: MedaR on May 02, 2016, 11:50:18 AM
This is perfect example and we can watch in real time what happening with price. Small decrease - buying and then rise again.This won't crash bitcoin because this is false news and it will take little time while people don't realize..


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: Kartikay on May 02, 2016, 04:30:55 PM
I think till bitcoin halving, condition of altcoins will not stabilize and high fluctuations will be seen because people are more interested in bitcoins. But after the halving condition of altcoins will be way better and stabilize. And lets accept it, no one can not predict the exact prices because digital currencies are highly volatile.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: jjacob on May 02, 2016, 04:49:53 PM
This is perfect example and we can watch in real time what happening with price. Small decrease - buying and then rise again.This won't crash bitcoin because this is false news and it will take little time while people don't realize..

False news? There is a possibility that it might not be true, but I won't call it false news.
What more do you need, apart from proof that Craig holds Satoshi's private keys.


Title: Re: If bitcoin crashes?
Post by: Doamader on May 13, 2016, 02:01:57 PM
litecoin will drop as well but will the other altcoins rise? I feel bitcoin price will drop, just a matter of time.
Most of the alt coins are depending on the run of bitcoin.
But if you are saying it will drop, yes it will drop just a short period but remember it will
pump after the halving.

that is right. I do not buy altcoin with dollars or other fiat. I buy them with bitcoin. So it is important to me.