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Title: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: TKeenan on May 05, 2016, 11:29:39 AM
That aussie was just trying to jump into his dead friend's shoes.  Nothing to see here - move along now.


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: freshman777 on May 05, 2016, 11:30:44 AM
Nah, you just don't like aussies.


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: TKeenan on May 05, 2016, 11:31:57 AM
Nah, you just don't like aussies.
Actually, I hate the fuckers.  But I was talking about the inventor of bitcoin not that dump way down in the trashcan of the planet.


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: freshman777 on May 05, 2016, 11:34:08 AM
Nah, you just don't like aussies.
Actually, I hate the fuckers.  But I was talking about the inventor of bitcoin not that dump way down in the trashcan of the planet.

You are obviously biased in your views what SN should be, try to erase your imagined view of SN and be rational.


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: P-Funk on May 05, 2016, 12:45:12 PM
Great thread, not a filler shitpost at all :) :) :)


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: ebliever on May 05, 2016, 12:48:03 PM
I wonder how this fits:

http://www.drcraigwright.net/

Hacked? Scam exposed? Or the next chapter in the scam?


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: calkob on May 05, 2016, 02:47:44 PM
I am still unsure who satoshi is, think he should have just kept his head down.......  >:(


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: Searing on May 05, 2016, 02:52:24 PM
Yeah I agree the Dave guy is most likely

Likely as any imho

Or

Craig Wright pulled a double fake it would explain his lame proof and hedge on real proof


Naw 😳


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: tobacco123 on May 05, 2016, 02:58:35 PM
Craig definitely not Satoshi. My impression is that Satoshi is not as weak as Craig, who "broke" just because others talking about him being the false Satoshi.

If Craig is the real one, he will just smile and ignore all the criticisms and sign the key in his own style- everyone will just shut up and listen!


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: Cuidler on May 05, 2016, 03:12:03 PM
Yeah I agree the Dave guy is most likely

Craig Wright pulled a double fake it would explain his lame proof and hedge on real proof

Its possible Klieman was Satoshi and Craig Wright worked with him, but obviously Craig Wright dont have the private keys for Satoshi coins, so the question is how likely is the Craig Wright story these private keys will be available around 2020 from some kind of trust. How likely is that? I give it some possibility considering Klieman death was not sudden so he had time to put the private keys to lawyer and these could be indeed released around 2020.


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: Jasad on May 05, 2016, 04:24:17 PM
That aussie was just trying to jump into his dead friend's shoes.  Nothing to see here - move along now.
and then who really Klieman is?honestly i'm tired to hear about who is satoshi and hear that people claiming he was satoshi or another news or topic. but i dont know i always interesting to open the thread related that news..shitt.


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: Kprawn on May 05, 2016, 04:27:26 PM
Craig definitely not Satoshi. My impression is that Satoshi is not as weak as Craig, who "broke" just because others talking about him being the false Satoshi.

If Craig is the real one, he will just smile and ignore all the criticisms and sign the key in his own style- everyone will just shut up and listen!

Who says he did not exit the scene back then when he saw the craziness start and wanted to avoid all of this shit? The moment when Gavin ran to the government agencies { Ok he says, he was invited}

Satoshi saw this coming and decided to bail out early, because he might have been a introvert. Not everyone wants to be in the limelight you know... some people just want to stay back and be a

normal average Joe or John or Pete without all the invasive things happening in this scene.. In your mind, you think Satoshi is stronger... I think he did this vanishing act, because he was not.  ;)

Look what was done with Dorian Nakamoto and now CW.  ::)


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: Bought on May 05, 2016, 04:34:01 PM
other than being some random person that ive never heard of this seems to be what i think is most likely. Craig even says during his interview that he had help. When he says had help i believe he was their while kileman did all the work.


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: Yakamoto on May 05, 2016, 04:37:05 PM
I have a feeling that none of the people mentioned have been Satoshi, and, rather, Satoshi has seen all of this and has just decided to bail, and won't reveal his identity for a fairly long time. There are too many people who would want to find him and get information out of him related to the Bitcoin protocol, and chances are he doesn't want to be involved in any of that.

Too many con artists polluting everything right now, I won't believe anything for a while.


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: Pablo Elpuro on May 05, 2016, 05:36:10 PM
There exists another thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1459687.140 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1459687.140)
with the same thema, what is less corrupt than thisone, what is already crammed of nonsense from the beginning. Its not really the problem, that the false doctor was an Ozzie, we suppose.



We like the Ozzies, but not the falseplayers. ;D


The title of this thread isnt great, too not. Its actually only a suspicion. We have still to discover the evidence. The other thread's title is better now. For now, its a hypothesis. To say it is so, makes the thread actually incredible. Some, maybe the most interesting posters will not parcipitate in the claiming of absent certainities.

We could continue here, if we are sure.

But IF we can get sure, we need anyway a fresh thread, because Satoshi merits not a squarrel of fishwifes at the beginning. :D


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: bitraine on May 05, 2016, 05:44:22 PM
craig wright=btc dump whats next?


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on May 05, 2016, 05:45:08 PM
http://gizmodo.com/is-dave-kleiman-the-missing-link-in-craig-wrights-satos-1774519534


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: sniaou on May 05, 2016, 06:07:45 PM
That aussie was just trying to jump into his dead friend's shoes.  Nothing to see here - move along now.

And this totally worked out for Don Draper in Mad Men.


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: Searing on May 06, 2016, 05:38:53 AM
That aussie was just trying to jump into his dead friend's shoes.  Nothing to see here - move along now.


I agree most likely..maybe hal finney (also passed) was in the orig group....

would make sense in that the original keys for original blocks never touched (ie coins lost)

Imagine the fun we could have if you could prove (or sorta) that Craig Wright KNOWS the original Satoshi Stash

is gone due to lost keys.....he may not be Satoshi.....but kinda would shed some light on his dog and pony show actions

(for his next act will NOW go to jail and try to convince 'BUBBA' his cell mate 'Bride' that he really really is not Satoshi (proper motivation indeed) :)

put a recorder on that conversation and we would know all quick) :)



Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: Gleb Gamow on May 06, 2016, 11:23:07 PM
http://gizmodo.com/the-strange-life-and-death-of-dave-kleiman-a-computer-1747092460

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Conrad is more skeptical than Paige that their partner was one of the minds behind the internet’s greatest mystery, but both men are adamant that he had the skills to pull it off and the discretion that would have been needed to keep it a secret. The descriptor that Conrad used most frequently in our conversations about Kleiman was “compartmentalized”: he kept the separate parts of his life separate, and if you weren’t already in on his business, he wouldn’t be likely to tell you about it. The descriptor that Paige used most frequently was “genius.”

I hope you conspiracy buffs have enough aluminum foil in stock because I'm sad to say this is about to become a tad (maybe more) weirder.

Go here: http://delivereddata.com/

https://i.imgur.com/VmTaPQk.jpg

Fair enough, given that...

https://who.godaddy.com/whoisstd.aspx?domain=delivereddata.com&prog_id=GoDaddy

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Domain Name: DELIVEREDDATA.COM
Registry Domain ID: 119667898_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Update Date: 2015-02-12T19:15:59Z
Creation Date: 2004-05-10T08:23:28Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-05-10T08:23:28Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: cv conrad
Registrant Organization: DeliveredDATA, LLC
Registrant Street: po box 22935
Registrant City: west palm beach
Registrant State/Province: Florida
Registrant Postal Code: 33416
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: 15615023935
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: registeredagent@delivereddata.com

David Kleiman and Carter V. Conrad were partners along with Patrick Paige.

Here's more on Conrad: http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Carter-Conrad/1484242250

https://i.imgur.com/arwWKJS.jpg

But the address I highlighted above is not the address I wish to bring attention to in this post. The following address is.

http://web.archive.org/web/20080509034542/http://www.delivereddata.com/contact_us.htm

https://i.imgur.com/WDrb6GU.jpg

301 Clematis Street, West Palm Beach, Florida, 33401, USA

Who else is at that address?

http://www.totaldigitalsecurity.com/

https://i.imgur.com/if3HnCC.jpg

Who founded Total Digital Security?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradforddeflin

https://i.imgur.com/PRdO2YI.jpg

The Bitcoin connection?

http://www.totaldigitalsecurity.com/blog/cryptolocker-virus-is-back-ransomware-and-the-evolution-of-extortion

https://i.imgur.com/pm2hrxM.jpg

https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8&q=site%3Awww.totaldigitalsecurity.com%20bitcoin&oq=site%3Awww.totaldigitalsecurity.com%20bitcoin&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS549US549&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.6938j0j4

https://i.imgur.com/j4js71M.jpg

TDS was formed on 3/13/13 (~1 month prior to David Kleiman's death [near his owl pillow]): http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResultDetail?inquirytype=OfficerRegisteredAgentName&directionType=Initial&searchNameOrder=DEFLINKENDALLH%20P130000237433&aggregateId=domp-p13000023743-0504a4cf-5af6-4bb1-b793-d8e783049f35&searchTerm=Deflin%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Kendall%20%20%20%20%20%20%20H&listNameOrder=DEFLINKENDALLH%20P130000237433


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: tabas on May 06, 2016, 11:28:50 PM
craig wright=btc dump whats next?

Next would be the fall of alt coins I guess, and investors will run and will dump btc also I guess, but still this doesn't make sense. Btc will still pump and pump. He isn't famous either.


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: Wapinter on May 06, 2016, 11:57:34 PM
That aussie was just trying to jump into his dead friend's shoes.  Nothing to see here - move along now.
Do you believe Satoshi never disclosed his identity to his close family members too? I dont think anyone with such a huge fortune has not make any arrangement to bequeath it to his heirs


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: Gleb Gamow on May 07, 2016, 01:18:03 AM
That aussie was just trying to jump into his dead friend's shoes.  Nothing to see here - move along now.
Do you believe Satoshi never disclosed his identity to his close family members too? I dont think anyone with such a huge fortune has not make any arrangement to bequeath it to his heirs

I assume David was raised Jewish by his parents who adopted him, thus, perhaps, whould've entrusted his closest family members to his estate oppose to a dude that he once penned some work with living down under.



Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: chek2fire on May 07, 2016, 11:30:32 PM
i dont think so. When Klieman was in hospital Satoshi was very active here in this forum. And Satoshi is for sure from Europe not Au not US


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: Gleb Gamow on May 07, 2016, 11:41:07 PM
i dont think so. When Klieman was in hospital Satoshi was very active here in this forum. And Satoshi is for sure from Europe not Au not US

While in the hospital, Kleiman was on his computer(s) every waking hour between surgeries. Also, he did occasionally briefly leave the hospital when his presence was needed in person for ongoing investigations by him and his staff. Case in point, there's a vid of him at some city council meeting during the time of Dave's hospital stay.

<weird thought>

I wonder if Conrad and Paige knocked off Kleiman during the same time that Force and Bridges was stagings Curtis Green's murder for SR's Ross.  :o ::) :o


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: chek2fire on May 07, 2016, 11:42:44 PM
i dont think so. When Klieman was in hospital Satoshi was very active here in this forum. And Satoshi is for sure from Europe not Au not US

While in the hospital, Kleiman was on his computer(s) every waking hour between surgeries.
<weird thought>



lol  :D Kleiman is the myth person that hoaxer Wright need  to manipulate his story.


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: SebastianJu on May 08, 2016, 05:38:49 PM
That aussie was just trying to jump into his dead friend's shoes.  Nothing to see here - move along now.

Why would you believe him? He would have had access to ALOT of bitcoins when his friend would have been satoshi and gave him access to the privkeys.

So no, surely he is not satoshi.


Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: BruceSwanson on May 08, 2016, 10:14:27 PM
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That aussie was just trying to jump into his dead friend's shoes.  Nothing to see here - move along now.

Are you saying that Kleiman wrote the white paper too? Any such claim can only be bolstered by convincing rough-drafts.

The mathematician Paul Erdos spent years wandering the world alone, nearly penniless and living out of his suitcase going from one mathematical conference to another, each full of a range of strangers and overly familiar colleagues and buffet-quality food and drink. He turned down numerous well-paying professorships offering light teaching responsibilities and leaves of absence that would have allowed him nearly as much leeway to wander. He always turned the offers down. A lonely old man, but also the great and well-known Paul Erdos. Someone once asked the aging and soon-to-die Henry Luce, founder of Time magazine, why he continued to go to ghastly do-gooder conferences in hotel meeting-rooms full of buffet-quality food and drink and a range of strangers and overly familiar colleagues. "Because it is expected of me," he replied. A lonely old man, but also the great and well-known Henry Luce.

What satisfaction could the inventor of Bitcoin derive from going incognito to academic meetings to talk shop with a range of strangers and overly familiar colleagues over buffet-quality food and drink? Maybe he doesn't go at all, and prefers to just bide his time and get rich. Or perhaps he is dead.

From Edgar Allen Poe: It will be in vain to follow, for I shall learn no more of him, nor of his deeds . . . "er lasst sich nicht lesen."
















Title: Re: Klieman was Satoshi - but now he is dead.
Post by: practicaldreamer on May 08, 2016, 10:51:41 PM
From Edgar Allen Poe: It will be in vain to follow, for I shall learn no more of him, nor of his deeds . . . "er lasst sich nicht lesen."


"..it does not permit itself to be read"

Yes - thats the anomoly here isn't it - in a time when everyone seems to want desperately to be read.

You know of course what Marx replied when asked what he most abhorred - servility.