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pls blockchain.info deducted $100 for fee, any idea on how to contact them to g eery this back
https://blockchain.info/tx/43fb8b97b21aae96c7bbb6724fc4ecb85f031aa5f75675de57bbb9b2895a7e6b

it's for sure the sender's mistake, if the sender do use "automatic fee" feature, i think the fee will be around 0.0001 ~ 0.0002 as usual, so,you can't get it back,and this coin will be fairly distributed to those miners who solve the block

Remember that time when you paid something with your VISA card and you accidentally ended up 'donating' an extra $100 for the VISA network?

The possibility to get back the transaction fee is very very low. Once the transaction gets over the fee gets distributed to all those miners involved in it. If you could find the person, can request for a refund but in reality finding the miner is not at all possible.

https://support.blockchain.com

stop using blockchain.info as wallet. this is the first time I've heard of this kind of error, but if it's truly not the sender's mistake then they failed to assign a change address.

finding miners is a useless thing to do, woulda spend a lot than what you get at the end,maybe,spend $1000 for part of $112 and it'd have low possibility,so,better forget about it

It would have been easier when its unconfirmed, you can just double spend it.

Most(?) mining pools who does not pay miners using the block rewards would usually send the fee back if you ask them for it. There are several cases of this happening[1][2]. Don't expect this to happen everytime since the miners won't like it.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4dtoj1/update_btcc_returned_my_1365btc_5750_transaction/
[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ktuaj/thank_you_to_bitfury_for_returning_an_accidental/

is that your transaction ? and what did you use , quick send or custom ? if use quick send,blockchain wouldn't use that amount only for fee, if you use custom , it must be your mistake and it is hard to find the miners to get your coins back, so just learn from this lesson and be careful for next

once the transaction is executed, blockchain can not change anything regarding it. your tx is confirmed by a block mined by BTCC. so try to contact them although is seems very hard to get these fees back

 https://i.imgur.com/gkv2NaL.jpg

 Oh no you didn't!

Cant say i do, but i do remember selling an item to a customer, who then said they didnt get the said item and visa gave them the purchase price back.   thankfully that dosnt happen with bitcoin.

I remember sending my bitcoins and get scammed, no one to ask for a refund...

I think if it is a huge amount, usually the miner who found the block will kindly return the fee to the sender. However, since the amount is less than 0.25BTC, the miner will just assume it was just normal. I guess it has already been distributed evenly to the pool.

That may be a lot of money to the person who lost it...

So, what if it was already distributed, can't they take it from new funds?

another mistake from pool??i dont know who have this wallet,but i wish he come to this thread and tell us what really happen here,i'm wondering where he sent this bitcoin and why the fees is so high,is that take short time confirmation?because as i know bigger fee can make faster transaction.

Things like this makes me wonder if the average Joe out there are ready to use Bitcoin. If this happened at a bank, the person could go to the bank and throw a temper tantrum and chances are he or

she would get the fees cancelled and refunded ... or simply corrected. In Bitcoin, you have to rely on a unknown entity {mining pool} to take pity on you, and to refund you. They are under no

obligation to help you... So the average Joe has no consumer protection against their own stupidity. I know how this person must feel, because I have done the same thing in the past and got no refund

for it. { You are either lucky or unlucky to get a good miner or pool, who handled your transaction and took pity on you }  :(

Yes that's right you now live in a world where you have to pay for your own mistakes and educate yourself sufficiently to protect yourself from those that would choose to take what you have.

It's a harsh world at times and I feel for you, but this is the future and you are in control. Would you ordinarily hand your wallet to someone that says they will look after it for you? oh right yeaah... the banks...
How has that worked out for everybody?

I'll help you out here by pointing you in the direction of.... https://bitcoin.org/en/secure-your-wallet (https://bitcoin.org/en/secure-your-wallet)

Be safe, be in control.

You probably messed up somewhere in the sending part. Maybe you didn't use a change address, or you thought the "Fee" was the change address/address you are paying to. Your tx was included in this block (https://blockchain.info/block-index/1108631) mined by BTCC Pool. Maybe try and contact them and see if you can get it back. Blockchain.info probably didn't deduct it (probably since, I have used them for countless transactions and haven't had this problem)

Don't know I should be giggling or feeling sad at the same time.No its not blockchain.info's fault.You entered wrong numbers in wrong boxes.Make sure to use a better wallet next time.

Yeah I don't really understand what OP did. It just seems to me too that he was typing the wrong numbers in the wrong boxes.

@OP are you using blockchain.info's wallet or just to explore the transaction?

Of course they can. However, the pool has no obligations to do so. The pools and its miners are looking for profit and not running a charity. It is just absurd for them to take responsibility for a user's mistake while losing out on the profits. If it gets distributed(after a few blocks) for BTCC, there is no reason for them to refund it.

You won't be able to get it back.

Your problem is that you had an input at 2016-05-05 10:40:00 but immediately created an output at 2016-05-05 10:42:40. That is why the fee was so large.

You need to give your coins a chance to age and get priority. If you have an input of 1BTC it takes a day to age so you can send with low or no fee. If it is half a bitcoin, it takes 2 days, a quarter of a bitcoin, 4 days, and so on.

This is not like a bank debit card where you can make transactions instantly without aging.

Bitcoin fees can be confusing for people - they are no constant as are based on number of inputs and outputs. Dust transaction is a major factor etc.
Unless owner of that wallet directly set high transfer fee (I am not sure if you can set it manually to certain number on blockchain.info, I know there are slider menu for that tho)
then I think it is valid fee based on bitcoin fee policy. You will never got it back.

So OP would you explain where the failure of blockchain wallet was? They are automated so it is very unlikely that they accidentally used that fee. Ok, they have a lot of code problems but if they had then you would not be the only one complaining. So it looks like it was your error. On what reasons could you sue them then. For not disallowing you a free choice?

That is because it is done in bytes rather than amounts.

You are right though - people find it confusing, which is why the original concept of people being their own bank won't work. Bitcoin will need coinbase and circle to take off, in order for it's use to become widespread.

The money is gone, it cant be returned . From next time use a wallet that automaticaly determines the fee. Never trust a web wallet. I personally use coinomi for my android and electrum on desktop.

If you cannot distinguish from the fee button and amount button, I suggest you start using wallets with dynamic fees which automatically adjust to the recommended fee. Electrum is such a wallet. Maybe its not blockchain.info fault this time, but for sure it is the worst of all the wallets out there and unfortunately is a widely used one.

OP, the transaction was included in a block mined by BTCC pool (https://pool.btcc.com/). Whoever sent the transaction should contact them if he wants the money back.

That might not work depending on how it was sent. I'm not sure but the default for blockchain wallets should be that the user controls the addresses but I think there were other options to send from addresses you don't own. But even then... it's open if they pay back.

You do realize it's not 'honest' money...

When someone messes up your change and you end up with more money do you take the money and think you deserve it because the cashier is too stupid to handle the money?

And also because you're not running a charity...


Fuckin' poor excuse of a human being!

They sometime refund fat finger mistakes. But in this case, this was the correct fee. He tried to send coins that were just two minutes old, with just one confirmation. Of course the fee will be huge. You need to let your coins age, and only send old coins.

Where did you get that from? That's not true. The fee that is needed additionally because of the age is so small that it never could amount to this fee. Not possible.

It might be possible that he had a huge amount of small inputs. So that the transaction was huge at the end. The bigger the higher the price then.

Uh, the info is right there in the link: 340 (bytes). There were two inputs and one output. He apparently set things up wrong somewhere.

The only way i think is to contact them or trying to contact who mined that block, recently i have seen a worse transaction fee here: https://blockchain.info/tx/cc455ae816e6cdafdb58d54e35d4f46d860047458eacf1c7405dc634631c570d 291BTC as a fee for a 0.0001 transaction.

Ah right. Didn't check the actual transaction again. Only spoke about the theoretics how such a fee possibly could come into existence. From coin age not. That is for sure.

Yeah, coin age would be irrelevant. And a fee that big... even with a 1 MB transaction (let's say he filled the entire block) wouldn't be possible. It would be a bit lower than that (something like .21x).

Didn't calculated it through but looks nearly as possible then with a price of $435 per bitcoin. :D It only would need alot of transactions that did not made it into a block yet...

But really, I think OP did simply an error.

You better contact the miner of that block: 410343 he have got those fee you have sended. Its completely your mistake bro and blockchain can't refund you those fees, they don't have any policy of refund and also actually they don't take any fees from you or users.