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Title: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: LCSociety on May 06, 2016, 12:38:18 PM
He is the inventor of the Blockchain and Bitcoin. He has "signed a message" and confirmed this, but yet the character assassination continues

Don't let media spin guide your thoughts.

I just read the UK's Guardian, and they have already began to paint Craig as a potentially criminal liar. Which is very troublesome indeed.

We have seen the guy speak many times, and he doesn't seem prideful that he created bitcoin. He doesn't even want any accolades or awards. Why is that?

Would you want to be etched in stone as a contributor to the enslavement of mankind?

I think we need to put at least two tablespoons of Respeck on Craig White's name. He has allowed most us to grow wealthy.

Try to resist falling into the trap of believing the media spin. I mean, there is clearly alot more to be revealed but the machine has already set to work on tarnishing this guys credibility, so when he does present us with some merky facts of who else is involved with Bitcoin, he'll be dismissed as some incompetent liar.

Sad times... I've nothing else to say on this matter. So yes, I'm finshed AND done! And I wont say it anymore


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Whites name
Post by: alani123 on May 06, 2016, 12:45:16 PM
He signed a message privately to Gavin Andresen, that's no irrefutable proof that he's satoshi. Did you know that Wright's fortune literally depends on being Satoshi? Hee took $54m in R&D subsidies (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hm5l1/telling_craig_wright_deflected_question_about/), to qualify for those he claimed that he had signed the rights of millions of dollars worth of bitcoin to a third party. Do you see why he'd want to lie about being Satoshi now?


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Whites name
Post by: LCSociety on May 06, 2016, 12:58:23 PM
He signed a message privately to Gavin Andresen, that's no irrefutable proof that he's satoshi. Did you know that Wright's fortune literally depends on being Satoshi? Hee took $54m in R&D subsidies (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hm5l1/telling_craig_wright_deflected_question_about/), to qualify for those he claimed that he had signed the rights of millions of dollars worth of bitcoin to a third party. Do you see why he'd want to lie about being Satoshi now?

I have an incapability to respond to "wealth shaming."

So what, he is making a bit of money here and there - as he should. He is one of the only human beings that can say that they have created THOUSANDS of millionaires. Everyone that was mining bitcoin on their laptops back in 2010 - 2012 should be reacting with aggression now that this man is being slandered like this.

Tony Blair the man that turned Iraq into a derelict bombshell, murdered millions and is directly responsible for the 'rape by solider' of hundreds of thousands of females (child and adult) has earned $100,000,000++ over the last 6 years, I think that is something worthy of outrage. Not some powerless, lone man making a few million here and there.

Craig white was the lead developer of this software that has changed all of our lives. He signed a message live on camera, but the BBC edited this out of their slanted presentation - for obvious reasons.

If you call yourself an Anarchist... If you call yourself a Libertarian... If you're anti this, and anti that - why are you so easily lead by this very same government that you defame? I mean, really? All it takes is media spin to whip you anti-establishment "rebels" into a frenzy?

Rest assured, there will be a big bitcoin pump in the coming weeks

So we'll all continue to make big money. But I must say it again. Let us all stop playing with this man's name. Let us all put more than a generous amount Respeck on it



Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Whites name
Post by: alani123 on May 06, 2016, 01:03:54 PM
He signed a message privately to Gavin Andresen, that's no irrefutable proof that he's satoshi. Did you know that Wright's fortune literally depends on being Satoshi? Hee took $54m in R&D subsidies (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hm5l1/telling_craig_wright_deflected_question_about/), to qualify for those he claimed that he had signed the rights of millions of dollars worth of bitcoin to a third party. Do you see why he'd want to lie about being Satoshi now?

I'm incapable of responding to "wealth shaming."

So what, he is making a bit of money here and there - as he should. He is one of the only human beings that can say that they have created THOUSANDS of millionaires. Everyone that was mining bitcoin on their laptops back in 2010 - 2012 should be reacting with aggression now that this man is being slandered like this.

Tony Blair the man that turned Iraq into a derelict bombshell, murdered millions and is directly responsible for the 'rape by solider' of hundreds of thousands of females (child and adult) has earned $100,000,000++ over the last 6 years, I think that is something worthy of outrage. Not some powerless, lone man making a few million here and there.

Craig white was the lead developer of this software that has changed all of our lives. He signed a message live on camera, but the BBC edited this out of their slanted presentation - for obvious reasons.

If you call yourself an Anarchist... If you call yourself a Libertarian... If you're anti this, and anti that - why are you so easily lead by this very same government that you defame? I mean, really? All it takes is media spin to whip you anti-establishment "rebels" into a frenzy?

Rest assured, there will be a big bitcoin pump in the coming weeks

So we'll all continue to make big money. But I must say it again. Let us all stop playing with this man's name. Let us all put more than generous amount Respeck on it
Defrauding the state for millions isn't making a bit of money here and there.


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Whites name
Post by: ebliever on May 06, 2016, 01:07:41 PM
He is the inventor of the Blockchain and Bitcoin. He has "signed a message" and confirmed this, but yet the character assassination continues

No, he didn't. You're taking someone's word for it, and he's specifically failed to do so publicly so that you can confirm it yourself. It would be a trivial exercise for an honest actor to provide the public proof, as Charles Lee demonstrated with his Litecoin genesis block proof. On the flip side he's been caught scamming over and over with back-dated documents and an obfuscated, dishonest proof from his May 2 blog post, among other things. It's not character assassination at this point to say he's being dishonest with the public and there is no objective reason to believe he is Satoshi.


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Whites name
Post by: LCSociety on May 06, 2016, 01:50:52 PM
He is the inventor of the Blockchain and Bitcoin. He has "signed a message" and confirmed this, but yet the character assassination continues

No, he didn't. You're taking someone's word for it, and he's specifically failed to do so publicly so that you can confirm it yourself. It would be a trivial exercise for an honest actor to provide the public proof, as Charles Lee demonstrated with his Litecoin genesis block proof. On the flip side he's been caught scamming over and over with back-dated documents and an obfuscated, dishonest proof from his May 2 blog post, among other things. It's not character assassination at this point to say he's being dishonest with the public and there is no objective reason to believe he is Satoshi.

Caught by whom? Were you there, or did you read that in some article produced by some media conglomerate? The same media conglomerate that dictates which toothpaste you use in the morning, and which brand of salt your mother uses to season your dinner every sunday?

Charles Lee was a lone actor. Craig White is not a lone actor. Edison was not a lone actor, he built GE following the direction of the Morgan Dynasty. The question is, which dynasty is Craig White working for?

I mean, this could all be a marketing ploy to get bitcoin back in front of the masses in preparation for another price manipulation - and with this being "halving year" this is most likely the case. But, who knows - i guess that would be too logical ::)

Personally, it's not that important to me.

I personally respect Craig for creating the blockchain, and I think we should all give him his flowers whilst he is still alive to smell them.

The government isn't opposed to bitcoin at all. Having the wealth of the world concentrated into one digital protocol is the stuff of dreams for social engineers. If they were opposed to bitcoin, it wouldn't take up even an inch of precious air time on their mass indoctrination networks. Bitcoin has been all over the BBC the past few years. BBC is not a commercial organisation, it's literally a department of the british government.

Hence why you can turn on a programme like eastenders and be blasted with an onslaught of depopulation conditioning.

Anyway, we all have our opinions... and there are three sides to every story. Thus far we have only been presented with two sides

Defrauding the state for millions isn't making a bit of money here and there.

Libertarians, anti capitalists and anarchists all claim to hate and be opposed to all forms of government. Yet when one of your own gets one over on this government that you hate, you become a statist all of a sudden

Is this why they force american students to pledge allegiance to "the flag" every morning? That conditioning sticks like double sided tape doesn't it?


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Whites name
Post by: Herbert2020 on May 06, 2016, 02:05:24 PM
i think you should read more about what identity theft is and what are the legal consequences of doing such a thing. also let us not forget about the 54 million dollars tax problem with the IRS or whatever the acronyms are for their tax thingy :D


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Whites name
Post by: LCSociety on May 06, 2016, 02:21:51 PM
i think you should read more about what identity theft is and what are the legal consequences of doing such a thing. also let us not forget about the 54 million dollars tax problem with the IRS or whatever the acronyms are for their tax thingy :D

I am not a Statist, and I don't knock you for being one.

I don't even knock those that are self professed libertarians and anarchists for unknowingly reverting back to Statisim when their government sponsored patriotism conditioning kicks in. It's difficult to control, I know.

A statist is a man who believes that some men have the right to force, coerce, enslave, rob, and murder others.

The fact that you reference "tax cheats," and "legality" shows that deep down you enjoy being oppressed.

The only tax cheat is the governemnt, because all taxes are illegal. If I were to smash up some local electronics store because they failed to pay me 30% of their yearly income, they'd throw me into a cage for 10 years due to "racketeering." When we do it it's a crime, when they do it - it's due to "legality."

In the purest form of reality 54 Million dollars is nothing.

Dollars are the figment of the imagination of a group of men that created the prison known as the united states of america. The Dollar is nothing except the legacy banking equivalent of a premine scam.

One's and zeros that mean nothing until you attach iconography.

So when you talk about "legal consequences" please be aware that in order for a group of people to attain the power to enforce any such "legal" repercussion... murders must be committed. Mass murders. Entire populations and civilizations wiped out - i.e the indigenous american indians. Wars must be waged in which millions more are murdered. Yet these very same "legal" acts that you mention state that committing but one murder makes you a criminal.

The second king of england had to murder the first one.

So literally, this legal hogwash that you speak of is meaningless. There are no criminals, just human beings.

We all need to re-evaluate our ideologies of what reality is before we can cast judgement on another man. Especially before we cast ill judgement on Craig White, who has made all of us wealthier in one way or another


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Whites name
Post by: Quartx on May 06, 2016, 02:26:08 PM
He is the inventor of the Blockchain and Bitcoin. He has "signed a message" and confirmed this, but yet the character assassination continues

Gimme a minute, let me take my popcorn and listen to you explain how he "signed the message". We all can sign the message too, which part of technicality do you not understand?


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Whites name
Post by: LCSociety on May 06, 2016, 02:36:27 PM
Gimme a minute, let me take my popcorn and listen to you explain how he "signed the message". We all can sign the message too, which part of technicality do you not understand?

Look at this broadcast they put out on the Government of the United Kingom's Department of Propaganda. Sorry, i meant to say the BBC - although, since these individuals love acronyms, GUKDP seems more powerful than BBC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DCAC1j2HTY

Craig obviously went through the process of signing a message to confirm his identity, which was edited out due to the BBC being intent on forcing their sordid agenda onto the masses

I'm not aware of the technicality you speak of. If you can sign a message that proves that you're satoshi, then please do. That'll surely educate me as to the flimsy nature of the underlying code that supports the blockchain. I'd love to see this

I find it strange that human beings stare directly at the "facts" yet their beliefs override blatant evidence. I guess this is why the church is so powerful, and why the Vatican is one of the largest owners of land on a global scale

Interesting quirks in the construct of humanity


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Whites name
Post by: AGD on May 06, 2016, 02:38:26 PM
Sign Satoshi's PGP key from 2008 or STFU


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Whites name
Post by: Kprawn on May 06, 2016, 02:39:14 PM
Guys and Girls, this guy is clearly trolling. Op are you deliberately spelling his Surname wrong? The guy is a fraudster until he publically bring valid proof that he is the real Satoshi. You would think a

person who wrote the Bitcoin protocol would know how to sign a message that would be acceptable to all.  ::) The fact that he done that behind closed doors with someone who has had ties with people

that wanted to deliberately sabotage Bitcoin... speaks for itself. {Mike Hearn}  ;)


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Whites name
Post by: LCSociety on May 06, 2016, 02:53:45 PM
Guys and Girls, this guy is clearly trolling. Op are you deliberately spelling his Surname wrong? The guy is a fraudster until he publically bring valid proof that he is the real Satoshi. You would think a

person who wrote the Bitcoin protocol would know how to sign a message that would be acceptable to all.  ::) The fact that he done that behind closed doors with someone who has had ties with people

that wanted to deliberately sabotage Bitcoin... speaks for itself. {Mike Hearn}  ;)

If I were a philosopher i'd ask, "what is a name?"

I mean look at that word... Sur-name. What is that? Why is it necessary for a human being to have a first name, and a surname? Sure, you'd like to separate one person from another. Understandable. But, the queen of england doesn't have a surname... her full name is Elizabeth Alexandra Mary... their family name is Saxe coburg gotha - publicly, Winsdor. There is no Sur-name - at least when you're not a serf of one form or another.

Serfs are trained to cherish the tools of their oppressors. Interesting.

I apologise for the incorrect spelling, never will i mispell a person's sur-name again. Forgive me

Again he signed a message live.. captured by the bbc, who craig assumed to be the most respectable medium to broadcast this revelation with. Obviously not the case. The bbc edited this out of their broadcast in order to properly execute their spin

The guardian picked up the ball and ran with it, publicly calling the man a liar

These are traits of character assassination.

Michael Jackson owned 50% of the recorded music publishing arm of Sony the corporation - Sony/ATV. This is one man, owning 50% of an arm of a multi national conglomerate. There was obviously a good character clause in his contract (an exit strategy for Sony), violation of which would lead to the forced selling of his portion of the company. Hence why his character was publicly assassinated continuously. Still he wouldn't sell. So, "let's try the old drug overdose chestnut."

The media is a powerful tool

I'm just saying, if most people here are opposed to government coercion and abuse, then we should all be a bit wiser than to jump when they tell us to



Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Whites name
Post by: Kprawn on May 06, 2016, 03:15:31 PM
Guys and Girls, this guy is clearly trolling. Op are you deliberately spelling his Surname wrong? The guy is a fraudster until he publically bring valid proof that he is the real Satoshi. You would think a

person who wrote the Bitcoin protocol would know how to sign a message that would be acceptable to all.  ::) The fact that he done that behind closed doors with someone who has had ties with people

that wanted to deliberately sabotage Bitcoin... speaks for itself. {Mike Hearn}  ;)

If I were a philosopher i'd ask, "what is a name?"

I mean look at that word... Sur-name. What is that? Why is it necessary for a human being to have a first name, and a surname? Sure, you'd like to separate one person from another. Understandable. But, the queen of england doesn't have a surname... her full name is Elizabeth Alexandra Mary... their family name is Saxe coburg gotha - publicly, Winsdor. There is no Sur-name - at least when you're not a serf of one form or another.

Serfs are trained to cherish the tools of their oppressors. Interesting.

I apologise for the incorrect spelling, never will i mispell a person's sur-name again. Forgive me

Again he signed a message live.. captured by the bbc, who craig assumed to be the most respectable medium to broadcast this revelation with. Obviously not the case. The bbc edited this out of their broadcast in order to properly execute their spin

The guardian picked up the ball and ran with it, publicly calling the man a liar

These are traits of character assassination.

Michael Jackson owned 50% of the recorded music publishing arm of Sony the corporation - Sony/ATV. This is one man, owning 50% of an arm of a multi national conglomerate. There was obviously a good character clause in his contract (an exit strategy for Sony), violation of which would lead to the forced selling of his portion of the company. Hence why his character was publicly assassinated continuously. Still he wouldn't sell. So, "let's try the old drug overdose chestnut."

The media is a powerful tool

I'm just saying, if most people here are opposed to government coercion and abuse, then we should all be a bit wiser than to jump when they tell us to



Apology accepted... in any way, I was a bit anal on the Surname because I want to stop further confusion in other people's reference to him.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1463230.new#new

Your point is taken, and I agree.. We should give the guy a fair chance to prove himself and then decide if he is a fraudster or the real deal. I too was a bit quick on the trigger, when other people

started to doubt his honesty. The best way to do this, would be for people with sound technical knowledge to meet with him and then giving him a chance to prove himself. The one-on-one thing with

Gavin behind closed doors was a bit dodgy. Do a sort of Peer review with developers and then they can decide if there are any proof in this. If he can sign a message in the Genesis block... it would

make this option obsolete and we can just move forward. Him being a early adopter, makes signing early blocks as proof so much more complex.  ::)


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Whites name
Post by: LCSociety on May 06, 2016, 04:11:42 PM
Gavin behind closed doors was a bit dodgy. Do a sort of Peer review with developers and then they can decide if there are any proof in this. If he can sign a message in the Genesis block... it would

make this option obsolete and we can just move forward. Him being a early adopter, makes signing early blocks as proof so much more complex

There's nothing complex about signing a message, which is why he wanted to broadcast himself doing just that live so that the BBC can present the code to a global audience, for every one to verify.

Things didn't pan out this way.

He said himself he doesn't care if people believe him or not. He simply wanted to prove that he wasn't a liar... so the BBC sold him a dream, and he fell for it

The fact that they are trying to tarnish this mans reputation only makes it obvious that there is alot more going on behind closed doors that Craig could potentially reveal

I said it before in another post... I won't be surprised if the guy turns up dead due to suicide via two gunshots to the head.

Character assassination requires air time to be sacrificed, they do not do this for no reason




Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: hhanh00 on May 06, 2016, 04:37:26 PM
It would take him a few seconds to sign a message with genesis key or one of the keys associated with Satoshi. And that would immediately clear his name and make fools of all the doubters. But no, instead he came up with a BS post followed by an apology.

If he's Satoshi and lost the private keys or can't access them for some reason, then he should have stayed anonymous . It is obvious that people would demand a better proof than what he showed. There aren't any good scenarios for him:

- He's not Satoshi: He's getting what he deserves
- He's Satoshi but all his stuff is locked somewhere else: He's also getting what he deserves for not showing the slightest foresight
- He's Satoshi and he's toying with us: He's getting what he deserves for being a douche

The media can be crappy but he was the one who contacted them. Now they are just doing the fact checking that they should have done in the first place before. So what if they are now calling a liar, no one really cares anyway. They are covering their ass and that story will blow away like it did before.

Nice try Craig but you are still gonna have to pay your bills.


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: Boosterious on May 06, 2016, 05:08:19 PM
He is the inventor of the Blockchain and Bitcoin. He has "signed a message" and confirmed this, but yet the character assassination continues

Don't let media spin guide your thoughts.

I just read the UK's Guardian, and they have already began to paint Craig as a potentially criminal liar. Which is very troublesome indeed.

We have seen the guy speak many times, and he doesn't seem prideful that he created bitcoin. He doesn't even want any accolades or awards. Why is that?

Would you want to be etched in stone as a contributor to the enslavement of mankind?

I think we need to put at least two tablespoons of Respeck on Craig White's name. He has allowed most us to grow wealthy.

Try to resist falling into the trap of believing the media spin. I mean, there is clearly alot more to be revealed but the machine has already set to work on tarnishing this guys credibility, so when he does present us with some merky facts of who else is involved with Bitcoin, he'll be dismissed as some incompetent liar.

Sad times... I've nothing else to say on this matter. So yes, I'm finshed AND done! And I wont say it anymore
can you give me source or link that guardian already began to paint Craig as a potentially criminal liar?
this is too far for judge Craig as Criminal,yes i do respect his name as big investor of bitcoin,even people hate and not believe on hi,but yes we should respect Craig's name.


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: LCSociety on May 06, 2016, 05:15:59 PM
The media can be crappy but he was the one who contacted them.

Do you have evidence of this? Probably not.

He said he was forced to speak out publicly due to his staff and family members being harassed. This is something that all revolutionaries are forced to come to terms with.

The revolutionary himself may be willing to go out all guns blazing... but what about his wife, mother... kids.... employees... ? They didn't sign up to being harassed by the secret service. Having the police force entry into their homes to remove "goods" and so on.

No one knows why he decided to come out

Entertainment isn't real, it's all a show. The television and media in general should be known universally as 'The Reality Machine' because that's it's purpose. To construct, maintain and promote only a specific set of universal perceptions that benefits a specific agenda.

Look at Russia.

All of the media corporations, even the privately owned ones, are dominated by the government.

They script their news casts similar to the way they write and direct movies in hollywood. Ever heard of crisis actors?

Listen to this for a run down and explanation of how your "news" is created: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h992YwxLg44

In the 80's and early 90's the entire russian government was usurped by the russian mafia. 19 and 20 year old gangsters were running riot, going on murder spree's, scamming their way into owning BILLION dollar state assets like steel factories, and gas companies - i.e Roman Abramovich and his camp.

Boris Berezovsky, a famous Russian oligarch and mentor to Roman Abramovich - and former owner of the largest media organisation in russia by the way - scammed his way into wealth by scamming $50 Million via creating a joint stock IPO, offering the first "Russian people's car." By subscribing investors would have had a chance to own one of the first cars that rolled off the factory floor........ the factory was never built, Boris ran with the money and later became a powerful member of the Kremlin.

Watch this for a primer on how "real" power is amassed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Cl8lSv9Is

You say the media can be "crappy" yah, tell me about it.
 

It would take him a few seconds to sign a message with genesis key or one of the keys associated with Satoshi. And that would immediately clear his name and make fools of all the doubters. But no, instead he came up with a BS post followed by an apology.

If he's Satoshi and lost the private keys or can't access them for some reason, then he should have stayed anonymous . It is obvious that people would demand a better proof than what he showed. There aren't any good scenarios for him:



There is a lot more to this story than what has been brought to light. I don't think anyone can jump to conclusions without being DIRECTLY involved

I mean, remember that huge KONY 2012 campaign that went on a few years ago that pulled 101 Million views on youtube... Didn't "the media" say that the organizer of that campaign "went crazy...."

Character assassination baby. This is your Democracy
 


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: x13 on May 06, 2016, 05:54:34 PM
I do believe that he has something to do with Bitcoin. Probably he is one part of the group behind Satoshi Nakamoto. But why did he do this step to go public without wanting to present a bombproof way to prove he is Satoshi? He is smart enough to know that he would get attention and a broad publicity.


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Whites name
Post by: adamskona on May 06, 2016, 06:07:48 PM
He is the inventor of the Blockchain and Bitcoin. He has "signed a message" and confirmed this, but yet the character assassination continues

Gimme a minute, let me take my popcorn and listen to you explain how he "signed the message". We all can sign the message too, which part of technicality do you not understand?

Yeah, but Gavin won't tell you're Satoshi so it's not true...  ;)



Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: adamskona on May 06, 2016, 06:09:18 PM
I do believe that he has something to do with Bitcoin. Probably he is one part of the group behind Satoshi Nakamoto. But why did he do this step to go public without wanting to present a bombproof way to prove he is Satoshi? He is smart enough to know that he would get attention and a broad publicity.

Never heard about this guy before. Now I did! That's why!


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: 18xk5oT2rLrAc24SL96XT14BX on May 06, 2016, 06:10:42 PM
He is the inventor of the Blockchain and Bitcoin. He has "signed a message" and confirmed this, but yet the character assassination continues

Don't let media spin guide your thoughts.

I just read the UK's Guardian, and they have already began to paint Craig as a potentially criminal liar. Which is very troublesome indeed.

We have seen the guy speak many times, and he doesn't seem prideful that he created bitcoin. He doesn't even want any accolades or awards. Why is that?

Would you want to be etched in stone as a contributor to the enslavement of mankind?

I think we need to put at least two tablespoons of Respeck on Craig White's name. He has allowed most us to grow wealthy.

Try to resist falling into the trap of believing the media spin. I mean, there is clearly alot more to be revealed but the machine has already set to work on tarnishing this guys credibility, so when he does present us with some merky facts of who else is involved with Bitcoin, he'll be dismissed as some incompetent liar.

Sad times... I've nothing else to say on this matter. So yes, I'm finshed AND done! And I wont say it anymore
let me take my popcorn and listen to you explain how he "signed the message". We all can sign the message too, which part of technicality do you not understand?


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: DimensionZ on May 06, 2016, 06:21:22 PM
I don't know why Craig even attempted to prove himself as the real Satoshi Nakamoto when he knew he didn't have any conclusive proof to show to the pulic. Instead, Craig tried to wow the audience with cheap tricks that didn't work out so when he realized all he had done was making himself the laughing stock of the Internet right now he quit. Well what kind of respect do I owe this person?


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: btcusury on May 06, 2016, 06:46:24 PM
LCSociety, I think you wanna do some more reading. You've got your ideology/morality right, but there's no proof that Wright [not White, btw] is Satoshi and people aren't saying that because of statist propaganda. It's also obvious that the USG and IC are panicked about Bitcoin/cryptocurrencies, because they are decentralized and thus cannot be controlled.


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: LCSociety on May 06, 2016, 07:35:54 PM
LCSociety, I think you wanna do some more reading. You've got your ideology/morality right, but there's no proof that Wright [not White, btw] is Satoshi and people aren't saying that because of statist propaganda. It's also obvious that the USG and IC are panicked about Bitcoin/cryptocurrencies, because they are decentralized and thus cannot be controlled.


Let's back up just a minute.... and sloooow it dooowwn. Let's slow it riiiight down and analyse these words that we say so frequently

By the way, "the man that knows something, knows that he knows nothing at all" im just so inquisitive that everything is a question, at least in my reality.

You say digital currencies are decentralised, and so cannot be controlled? How controllable is cash?  Is cash difficult to control because it is decentralised? No, not exactly, because cash is issued centrally. Yet the government wants to scrap cash entirely, to prevent bank runs.

Denmark is a testing ground for this: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/denmark-moves-closer-to-a-cashless-society-10231995.html

Here is the punchline: Denmark also has imposed, NEGATIVE interest rates: http://www.bloomberg.com/quicktake/negative-interest-rates

Negative rates is when savers pay to save.

If cash was prevalent, wouldn't savers simply withdraw all of their cash from the banks and stuff it into some vault somewhere? Of course - hence the coming cashless society, where bank runs are impossible.

There is always a bigger picture to consider

Decentralization doesn't mean something cannot be controlled. I mean, who is making the price per BTC go up and down... no one knows
 


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: AgentofCoin on May 06, 2016, 10:07:26 PM
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Christians go to church on SUN-day. To pray to God's one begotten "SON" (SUN) i.e Mom/Mum (o/u being interchangeable). Gods "SON" is the LIGHT of the world. He SHINES HIS LIGHT on us. Has 12 disciples that follow him (like the 12 constellations?) is referred to as the Bright morning STAR. Easter is the celebration of the RISING AGAIN of the "SON" - (Why east-er? Like how the SUN always rises in the east and sets in the west)
...

Not getting involved in your CSW is Satoshi thing. I disagree with your opinion.
But as to your statement quoted above.

1. Constantine, Roman Emperor change the Sabbath day from Saturday,
to Sunday by decree to "differentiate ourselves from the Jews". It was not
a fundamental teaching of Jesus or by early Christians.

2. When they speak of the Son in terms likened to the Sun/Light,
it is not purposefully interchangeable.It is metaphorical, and romanticized,
and from the early pagan religions. It was incorporated, but is not literal.
When certain books that were included into New Testament later, were written,
they understood Jesus to be God's Son in the spiritual and physical sense, they
did not mean that he was literal the Sun of our Solar System come down.

3. There were many more constellations then just 12 during Jesus's time and
most people knew that then. They probably had over 30 recognized constellations
that people all understood and agreed with, throughout the Roman Empire then.

4. The bright morning star is Lucifer, not Jesus. Lucifer was the light bearer in God's
Army before his fall.

5. Easter (Christian) comes from the Pagan Easter which celebrated seasonal rebirth.
Constantine, the Roman Emperor declared the Christian's Easter be on the same day as
the Pagan's in order to subvert the Pagan's holiday and ultimately dilute it over time.
Constantine was the first Roman Emperor to declare the Pagan Gods dead and wanted all
inhabitants of the Roman Emperor to convert to Christianity, as the official Roman religion.


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: LCSociety on May 06, 2016, 10:56:30 PM
1. Constantine, Roman Emperor change the Sabbath day from Saturday,
to Sunday by decree to "differentiate ourselves from the Jews". It was not
a fundamental teaching of Jesus or by early Christians.

The story of Jesus is similar to the story of Horus... and the other "Sun deities."

Time itself is literally the tracking of the movement of the sun. .

Infact all of our energy comes from the sun, in indirect ways. Hence why we have a soul... soul being a variation of the word solar - hence solar energy

Horus is where the word hours comes from.. also the words horizon, horoscope etc

In egyptian mythology, Horus had an "evil" brother named Set... Hence, Sun-set

Look at the cues though... In the bible, jesus was a human being.. and referred to as the child of god, so therefore was a god. The bible perscribes the same "children of god" moniker as it does to Jesus himself.

So is Jesus a metaphor for the entire human race? Possibly so

2. When they speak of the Son in terms likened to the Sun/Light,
it is not purposefully interchangeable.It is metaphorical, and romanticized,
and from the early pagan religions. It was incorporated, but is not literal.
When certain books that were included into New Testament later, were written,
they understood Jesus to be God's Son in the spiritual and physical sense, they
did not mean that he was literal the Sun of our Solar System come down

It isn't metaphorical, nor is it romanticized.

The current bible was commissioned by King James IV, who was an illiterate.. and so hired mystics to write his version of the bible.

King James had to fight wars abroad and so didn't have the ability to place one of his soldiers on every street to manage the serfs, so the purpose of the bible was literally to control the minds of the populace - and promote self policing etc by propagation of alleged spiritual consequences for breaking the "ten commandments"

These mystics knew that if they were to reveal potent truths in the bible, they'd be murdered. So they were smart about it.

Very smart about it

Look at the story of Adam and Eve, in which it is said that God cut adam open and used one of his ribs to create Eve.

Well, the original name was not Adam, it was Atum... (u/o interchangeable) Atum = Atom. God cutting adam open to create Eve = the splitting of the Atom which is what creates energy.

The Bible is literally laced with science and truths, that you really have to decode

3. There were many more constellations then just 12 during Jesus's time and
most people knew that then. They probably had over 30 recognized constellations
that people all understood and agreed with, throughout the Roman Empire then

First time i've heard this... so can't pass opinion until I've done some research. But, it does ring true

During the days of the roman empire, the government were known for adding/subtracting entire months from the calendar to prolong their office terms

October... Oct = 8, yet october is the tenth month? Sept = 7, yet september is the ninth month?

So I can see this being true

5. Easter (Christian) comes from the Pagan Easter which celebrated seasonal rebirth.
Constantine, the Roman Emperor declared the Christian's Easter be on the same day as
the Pagan's in order to subvert the Pagan's holiday and ultimately dilute it over time.
Constantine was the first Roman Emperor to declare the Pagan Gods dead and wanted all
inhabitants of the Roman Emperor to convert to Christianity, as the official Roman religion.

Wrong see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3i6UwVkP6M



Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: chek2fire on May 06, 2016, 11:09:35 PM
I will not have any respect to a Hoaxer, scammer and a Charlatan like this fake Wrightamoto!!


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: cpfreeplz on May 06, 2016, 11:33:41 PM
I heard that Craig Wright gets $1 in BTC any time his name is mentioned alongside Satoshi. Holy crap!! He's rich!! Well now he is anyways.

On a more serious note... Why does this matter in the slightest? Let's say he is Satoshi. Who cares? What difference does that make to you?


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: tabas on May 07, 2016, 12:07:25 AM
I will not have any respect to a Hoaxer, scammer and a Charlatan like this fake Wrightamoto!!

I am respecting him but for doing such hoax and being a scammer. Better not to put respect to him. I will just give him wattamoto! Putting his feet to others shoes is not a good idea.


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: AgentofCoin on May 07, 2016, 12:10:06 AM
1. ...
Jesus is fictitious. The story of Jesus is a 1:1 copy of the story of Horus... and countless other Sun deities.
Time itself is literally the tracking of the movement of the sun. .
Infact all of our energy comes from the sun, in indirect ways. Hence why we have a soul... soul being the short form of solar energy
Horus is where the word hours comes from.. also the words horizon, horoscope etc
In egyptian mythology, Horus had an "evil" brother named Set... Hence, Sun-set
Look at the cues though... In the bible, jesus was a human being.. and referred to as the child of god, and therefore was a god. The bible refers to human beings in general as children of god.
So is Jesus a metaphor for the entire human race? Possibly so

Roman historians at the time of Jesus would disagree with you.
Jesus was written and talked about in real time and you can read those records in most libraries.
If he did not exist and was created after the fact, then Roman historians would not have written about him.
You clearly have not studied any of this besides watching youtube videos that don't stand up to scholarly review.
There was a person named Jesus of Nazareth at that time. Whether he was truly the messiah or such is not relevant.
What you are talking about with Egyptian mythology is partially correct, since the Jews took many Egyptian ideas
and customs since they were in captivity there for 300 years. But you aren't saying that.


2. ...
It isn't metaphorical, nor is it romanticized.
The current bible was commissioned by King James IV, who was an illiterate.. and so hired mystics to write his version of the bible.
King James had to fight wars abroad and so didn't have the ability to place one of his soldiers on every street to manage the serfs, so the purpose of the bible was literally to control the minds of the populace - and promote self policing etc by propagation of alleged spiritual consequences for breaking the "ten commandments"
These mystics knew that if they were to reveal potent truths in the bible, they'd be murdered. So they were smart about it.
Very smart about it
Look at the story of Adam and Eve, in which it is said that God cut adam open and used one of his ribs to create Eve.
Well, the original name was not Adam, it was Atum... (u/o interchangeable) Atum = Atom. God cutting adam open to create Eve = the splitting of the Atom which is what creates energy.
The Bible is literally laced with science and truths, that you really have to decode

No, the current bible was not commissioned by King James. He only commissioned the english translation.
The current bible (old testament & new testament) was commissioned by Constantine.
Actually, Adam comes from Hebrew of Adama, which is earth, since man was made of the clay.
That also stems back to Sumer, the supposed first civilization, where the term Adamu also meant clay/dirt.
What you are talking about is new age interpretation, and is not what was taught and understood for over 6000 years.


5. ...
Wrong see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3i6UwVkP6M

A simple google search would show that I am correct.


I'm not going to continue this conversation since it is off topic to your OP and
ultimately we disagree since I'm talking theology & history and you are talking new age-ry.
But I would advise you to widen your research. You are relying upon many interpretations
that have no original foundation or origins.

If you want to accept what you are saying is true, then you must ultimately accept that humans were
planted here by another race of beings, gave knowledge, we misinterpreted, forgot it all, and now start again.

If you accept that as all true, then there is no surprise now why you are making giant leaps that lead you to
believe that CSW is Satoshi Nakamoto.


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: LCSociety on May 07, 2016, 02:10:09 AM
What you are talking about is new age interpretation, and is not what was taught and understood for over 6000 years.

Just because it was "taught" doesn't make it the truth



Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: Jordan23 on May 07, 2016, 02:11:18 AM
Ok you watched Zeitgeist. You wanna Bitcoin?


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: LCSociety on May 07, 2016, 02:29:08 AM
Craig Wright should not be dismissed as some incompetent satoshi impostor, because that's what the social engineers at the BBC what you to believe. They want to discredit this guy until his word no longer holds any weight and has zero meaning. Which is only a danger to the rest of us because when Craig decides to really spill some beans and let us in on other intricate details - it'll be swept under the rug, and laughed off as a "hoax."

Not cool at all... especially when there are individuals here that have made millions due to the creation of this currency

Instead of defending the guy against "the establishment" that we're all supposed to hate... we join their tar and feathering party. Shows that some people here would rather continue to live under the thumb of their governments than to rebel in an authentic way.. and that's a shame


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: hhanh00 on May 07, 2016, 03:07:46 AM
I see your point. Craig has done some work on Bitcoin and deserves respect for that. Even if he messes up now, it shouldn't change the value of his previous contributions. That makes sense - but yeah - the media will not see it this way. They have lost credibility (or would have if they had any) and now are out of blood.

Personally, I think he went crazy. Kinda like if Einstein published a 'proof' that the earth is flat, years after his theory of Relativity.


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: fenican on May 07, 2016, 03:42:37 AM
LCSociety, surprised you are posting tonight - shouldn't you be watching the Ancient Aliens marathon?


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: r1cochet on May 07, 2016, 09:50:03 AM
Petty conmen like Craig deserve no respect in my humble opinion. The only positive aspect of this whole charade is the increased publicity for Bitcoin...


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: LCSociety on May 07, 2016, 09:50:25 AM
I see your point. Craig has done some work on Bitcoin and deserves respect for that. Even if he messes up now, it shouldn't change the value of his previous contributions. That makes sense - but yeah - the media will not see it this way. They have lost credibility (or would have if they had any) and now are out of blood.

Personally, I think he went crazy. Kinda like if Einstein published a 'proof' that the earth is flat, years after his theory of Relativity.



That's the thing about innovators... to think up an entire concept that has never been implented before, and actually bring it to fruition, you have to go against all known and accepted forms of logic/common sense. Which, on the surface, resembles insanity

It's funny that ALL of the innovative technologies that are now so normal, and taken for granted were created by individuals that were branded as: insane

I mean, inputs and outputs on a 'triple entry' digital ledger is what we're using as money in 2016?

To someone that was involved with the legacy banking systems in even as recent as the 1980's looks at this blockchain system and feels entirely justified when he says "this is madness, it will never work."


LCSociety, surprised you are posting tonight - shouldn't you be watching the Ancient Aliens marathon?

Human beings are clearly the odd ones out on this planet bro. So, no, not watching the marathon.. I'm LIVING the ancient alien marathon. We all are  ;)




Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Whites name
Post by: cpfreeplz on May 07, 2016, 08:59:59 PM
He signed a message privately to Gavin Andresen, that's no irrefutable proof that he's satoshi. Did you know that Wright's fortune literally depends on being Satoshi? Hee took $54m in R&D subsidies (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hm5l1/telling_craig_wright_deflected_question_about/), to qualify for those he claimed that he had signed the rights of millions of dollars worth of bitcoin to a third party. Do you see why he'd want to lie about being Satoshi now?

Exactly! He didn't prove anything to anyone. Who cares if Gavin Anderson may or may not know the truth now. If he wanted to prove it he would just sign a message from the Genesis block. Maybe he's putting it off because Satoshi is dead and he's doing everything in his power to get the info to the Genesis block. Ever think of that? I'm sure he knows who Satoshi was and is trying to take advantage of it.

Also just wanted to throw this out there: What the hell is Respeck? Lololol


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: criptix on May 07, 2016, 09:03:06 PM
Cake white is satosho.

I want to believe... 8)


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: SebastianJu on May 08, 2016, 05:12:56 PM
Sure... a newbie claiming that we are wrong in being sceptic... man, this it bitcoin world. We learned it the hard way to be sceptic. And no, there is no proof yet. So you are nothing more than a believer.


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: btcbug on May 08, 2016, 11:00:33 PM
Interesting Craig Wright interview I'm watching right now:
https://vimeo.com/149035662

Good find. Very interesting.

And this is supposed to be the egocentric scammer sociopath ?

LOL

Blockchain (bitcoin) represents "a means of tracking and registering anything that can exist".

I don't think I've yet got my head around how big this thing is going to be.

I hope Craig isn't looking here like Oppenheimer before the bomb was dropped.


He could be Satoshi. I feel bad for the flack he's been given. Although if he's not Satoshi I guess it's kinda deserved, but when I these interviews he does seem quite intelligent and certainly seems modest.


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: TheDreadPirateDickstein on May 08, 2016, 11:32:28 PM
Fuck that wannabe.

It takes a team to build something like BTC....no SINGLE person could have done it alone. It required a degree of highly divergent and leveraged skillets. There is no Satoshi, he is anonymous, he is legion, for he is many


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: MaritiJames3 on May 09, 2016, 02:04:58 PM
Yeah put some respeck on it because you have been playing with his name far to much. We are going to say it no more put some respeck and Craig Wright's name because he deserves.


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: LCSociety on May 10, 2016, 08:49:51 AM
Sure... a newbie claiming that we are wrong in being sceptic... man, this it bitcoin world. We learned it the hard way to be sceptic. And no, there is no proof yet. So you are nothing more than a believer.

Believe what you wish... and yes, I am a believer. I gain more from building people up, praising them and making them feel good/better about themselves - because that makes me feel better.

You get back everything you put out. In fact, you get it back tenfold.

So, no. I'm not a "skeptic...." If I were, I wouldn't be involved with digital currencies at all. There is nothing cool about being skeptical... all that does is shut of the creative capacity of your brain, which slows your development as a human being. Therefore literally making you sub-human.

Tearing people down, insulting people... making a nuisance of myself... jumping on the bandwagon... following the sheeple... is all completely ridiculous and void of any logic whatsoever. I mean, I'm really going to sit infront of my computer and type a bunch of hateful/snideful remarks and comments against some individual that I've never met before? Is this what people use technology for?

If you're going to sit infront of your computer for more than 1 hour a day, then please let it be because you're building something innovative and adding to the plight of furthering the advancement of humanity.

Tearing people down is so counter productive, and produces nothing tangible in reward

2016 should be the year that trolling becomes obsolete and just some illogical, embarrasing, and "never to be talked about again" trait of human history, that we purged ourselves of via evolution. It is such a bore to witness... people really should evaluate themselves if that is how they're spending/wasting the gift of life. Trolling people they have never met, will never meet, and know nothing about.

You should be using the internet to build connections with people, not to behave in ways that you wouldn't in a person to person / face to face setting. We should all embrace adulthood and leave this kind of behavior in the past.

No one here knows Craig Wright personally. So any assumption made here, can and will never be rooted in fact. So any conclusion that anyone comes to can only be rooted in ignorance. No matter which side of the fence you're on.

If I'm going to be ignorant, then I'd rather my version of ignorance have bundles of positivity, good energy, and respect for humanity attached to it - rather than the opposite. Causing offence and propagating ridicule isn't cool. It isn't classy and the truth is no one would enjoy having this kind of tarnishing directed an them - so why do it to others?



Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: SebastianJu on May 10, 2016, 06:19:45 PM
Sure... a newbie claiming that we are wrong in being sceptic... man, this it bitcoin world. We learned it the hard way to be sceptic. And no, there is no proof yet. So you are nothing more than a believer.

Believe what you wish... and yes, I am a believer. I gain more from building people up, praising them and making them feel good/better about themselves - because that makes me feel better.

You get back everything you put out. In fact, you get it back tenfold.

So, no. I'm not a "skeptic...." If I were, I wouldn't be involved with digital currencies at all. There is nothing cool about being skeptical... all that does is shut of the creative capacity of your brain, which slows your development as a human being. Therefore literally making you sub-human.

Tearing people down, insulting people... making a nuisance of myself... jumping on the bandwagon... following the sheeple... is all completely ridiculous and void of any logic whatsoever. I mean, I'm really going to sit infront of my computer and type a bunch of hateful/snideful remarks and comments against some individual that I've never met before? Is this what people use technology for?

If you're going to sit infront of your computer for more than 1 hour a day, then please let it be because you're building something innovative and adding to the plight of furthering the advancement of humanity.

Tearing people down is so counter productive, and produces nothing tangible in reward

2016 should be the year that trolling becomes obsolete and just some illogical, embarrasing, and "never to be talked about again" trait of human history, that we purged ourselves of via evolution. It is such a bore to witness... people really should evaluate themselves if that is how they're spending/wasting the gift of life. Trolling people they have never met, will never meet, and know nothing about.

You should be using the internet to build connections with people, not to behave in ways that you wouldn't in a person to person / face to face setting. We should all embrace adulthood and leave this kind of behavior in the past.

No one here knows Craig Wright personally. So any assumption made here, can and will never be rooted in fact. So any conclusion that anyone comes to can only be rooted in ignorance. No matter which side of the fence you're on.

If I'm going to be ignorant, then I'd rather my version of ignorance have bundles of positivity, good energy, and respect for humanity attached to it - rather than the opposite. Causing offence and propagating ridicule isn't cool. It isn't classy and the truth is no one would enjoy having this kind of tarnishing directed an them - so why do it to others?

I'm not sure what you speak about. You believing in the future of bitcoin is worth something instead believing in some person claiming to be satoshi without any need to do that. Without a reason to come out now. Nothing. Pure senseless.

I really really wish you a huge portion of scepticism. Most bitcoiners that are in this since years had to learn this the hard way. With real huge monetary losses. Don't be gullible.

Regarding feeling better. It's fine when you search your luck in praising other people. And you would not even want proof. Again... what happens when you meet a charismatic sect leader? Would you jump in because it would make you happy to praise him?

So you think Iam a sheep? Well no... I informed myself. He did not proof anything. In fact it would have been VERY easy for him. He chose to not proof it. And if you would have been in the community since some years then you would know that this is an absolute sure sign that he can't proof it. He is not satoshi. And the surroundings don't make sense either. So no, I'm not a sheep. I informed myself. And don't dare to claim I'm trolling. I could say the same of you but I won't.

I'm fine with you building connections. Though in fact I would be aware to keep connections with someone I think is an impostor or would do strange things to stand in the spotlight. What good should come out of it for me?

Well, everything you wrote sounds like you would be an easy victim for all kind of persons and schemes. I hope that is not the case and only a wrong impression. Because it would be hard for you.


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: practicaldreamer on May 10, 2016, 06:42:54 PM
There is no Satoshi, he is anonymous, he is legion, for he is many

Yeah - I see what you are driving at, and kind of agree with you (a little bit).
But you do realise that the person named Legion that you are referring to was, by most modern measures and interpretations, most likely suffering from schizophrenia don't you ?


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: Gleb Gamow on May 10, 2016, 08:45:35 PM
He is the inventor of the Blockchain and Bitcoin. He has "signed a message" and confirmed this, but yet the character assassination continues

Don't let media spin guide your thoughts.

I just read the UK's Guardian, and they have already began to paint Craig as a potentially criminal liar. Which is very troublesome indeed.

We have seen the guy speak many times, and he doesn't seem prideful that he created bitcoin. He doesn't even want any accolades or awards. Why is that?

Would you want to be etched in stone as a contributor to the enslavement of mankind?

I think we need to put at least two tablespoons of Respeck on Craig White's name. He has allowed most us to grow wealthy.

Try to resist falling into the trap of believing the media spin. I mean, there is clearly alot more to be revealed but the machine has already set to work on tarnishing this guys credibility, so when he does present us with some merky facts of who else is involved with Bitcoin, he'll be dismissed as some incompetent liar.

Sad times... I've nothing else to say on this matter. So yes, I'm finshed AND done! And I wont say it anymore

Dude, were you born a delusional fuck or took lessons from Leroy Fodor and Chantha Owen Lueung?

Part of the media that you're complaining about first embraced the idea that Craig was Satoshi, while most the rest of the media shortly came out echoing what the community - Us - have proven beyond reasonable doubt that Craig's a motherfuckin' con artist.

I suggest you pour your two tablespoons of Respeck into an enema bag and have at it. Oh, and since you're done here never to return, I'd be remiss is I didn't say that your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: btcusury on May 11, 2016, 03:07:05 PM
LCSociety, I think you wanna do some more reading. You've got your ideology/morality right, but there's no proof that Wright [not White, btw] is Satoshi and people aren't saying that because of statist propaganda. It's also obvious that the USG and IC are panicked about Bitcoin/cryptocurrencies, because they are decentralized and thus cannot be controlled.

Let's back up just a minute.... and sloooow it dooowwn. Let's slow it riiiight down and analyse these words that we say so frequently

By the way, "the man that knows something, knows that he knows nothing at all" im just so inquisitive that everything is a question, at least in my reality.

With that mindset, the world is yours!

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In church I was the kid that made the obvious connections.

Christians go to church on SUN-day. To pray to God's one begotten "SON" (SUN) i.e Mom/Mum (o/u being interchangeable). Gods "SON" is the LIGHT of the world. He SHINES HIS LIGHT on us. Has 12 disciples that follow him (like the 12 constellations?) is referred to as the Bright morning STAR. Easter is the celebration of the RISING AGAIN of the "SON" - (Why east-er? Like how the SUN always rises in the east and sets in the west)

When I told the priest that he has been misinterpreting the bible, and god literally is the Sun... he laughed. The read 100 passages from the bible to me, then told me i needed to pray. Even though when you look up the definition of the word planet it returns: "HEAVENLY bodies "

Have you researched what the Gnostics were saying? Makes far more sense! That "God" ain't no such thing, but he's a real being, with expertise in overlaying astrotheological imprints over historical beings (e.g. Yeshua) who re-recognized their divinity.

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But, I digress...

You say digital currencies are decentralised, and so cannot be controlled? How controllable is cash?  Is cash difficult to control because it is decentralised? No, not exactly, because cash is issued centrally. Yet the government wants to scrap cash entirely, to prevent bank runs.

Denmark is a testing ground for this: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/denmark-moves-closer-to-a-cashless-society-10231995.html

Here is the punchline: Denmark also has imposed, NEGATIVE interest rates: http://www.bloomberg.com/quicktake/negative-interest-rates

Negative rates is when savers pay to save.

If cash was prevalent, wouldn't savers simply withdraw all of their cash from the banks and stuff it into some vault somewhere? Of course - hence the coming cashless society, where bank runs are impossible.

There is always a bigger picture to consider

Decentralization doesn't mean something cannot be controlled. I mean, who is making the price per BTC go up and down... no one knows

You mean other than the free market?

Cash or not, it's centrally controlled. Cryptocurrency is not. There are no control vectors! If you think you have a bigger picture, state your case!


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: btcusury on May 11, 2016, 04:16:55 PM
Sure... a newbie claiming that we are wrong in being sceptic... man, this it bitcoin world. We learned it the hard way to be sceptic. And no, there is no proof yet. So you are nothing more than a believer.

Believe what you wish... and yes, I am a believer. I gain more from building people up, praising them and making them feel good/better about themselves - because that makes me feel better.

You get back everything you put out. In fact, you get it back tenfold.

Seven-fold, according to Conversations With God. :D

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So, no. I'm not a "skeptic...." If I were, I wouldn't be involved with digital currencies at all. There is nothing cool about being skeptical... all that does is shut of the creative capacity of your brain, which slows your development as a human being. Therefore literally making you sub-human.

There's a fundamental distinction that's important to make between methodological skepticism (what we have employed to determine that there's no good reason to conclude that Wright is Satoshi), and the other forms of (pseudo)skepticism that have subconsciously equated truth with the idea of "authoritativeness". The latter type of "skeptic" is the type that has shut down his right brain and become an automaton follower who believes anything perceived to be coming from an "authority" (and believes nothing perceived to be coming from non-"authoritative" sources).

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Tearing people down, insulting people... making a nuisance of myself... jumping on the bandwagon... following the sheeple... is all completely ridiculous and void of any logic whatsoever. I mean, I'm really going to sit infront of my computer and type a bunch of hateful/snideful remarks and comments against some individual that I've never met before? Is this what people use technology for?

If you're going to sit infront of your computer for more than 1 hour a day, then please let it be because you're building something innovative and adding to the plight of furthering the advancement of humanity.

Tearing people down is so counter productive, and produces nothing tangible in reward

2016 should be the year that trolling becomes obsolete and just some illogical, embarrasing, and "never to be talked about again" trait of human history, that we purged ourselves of via evolution. It is such a bore to witness... people really should evaluate themselves if that is how they're spending/wasting the gift of life. Trolling people they have never met, will never meet, and know nothing about.

You should be using the internet to build connections with people, not to behave in ways that you wouldn't in a person to person / face to face setting. We should all embrace adulthood and leave this kind of behavior in the past.

No one here knows Craig Wright personally. So any assumption made here, can and will never be rooted in fact. So any conclusion that anyone comes to can only be rooted in ignorance. No matter which side of the fence you're on.

It's rooted in the known facts as of this time. It's like you're saying that we don't know anything about anything because we can't know everything about anything.

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If I'm going to be ignorant, then I'd rather my version of ignorance have bundles of positivity, good energy, and respect for humanity attached to it - rather than the opposite. Causing offence and propagating ridicule isn't cool. It isn't classy and the truth is no one would enjoy having this kind of tarnishing directed an them - so why do it to others?

Your heart is in the right place but your perception is weird... If Wright is Satoshi then it's easy for him to prove that he is. Since he hasn't, there's no way he could've expected being treated differently. He's a weird personality for sure, but he's no dummy.



Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Whites name
Post by: Kprawn on May 11, 2016, 04:40:44 PM
Gavin behind closed doors was a bit dodgy. Do a sort of Peer review with developers and then they can decide if there are any proof in this. If he can sign a message in the Genesis block... it would

make this option obsolete and we can just move forward. Him being a early adopter, makes signing early blocks as proof so much more complex

There's nothing complex about signing a message, which is why he wanted to broadcast himself doing just that live so that the BBC can present the code to a global audience, for every one to verify.

Things didn't pan out this way.

He said himself he doesn't care if people believe him or not. He simply wanted to prove that he wasn't a liar... so the BBC sold him a dream, and he fell for it

The fact that they are trying to tarnish this mans reputation only makes it obvious that there is alot more going on behind closed doors that Craig could potentially reveal

I said it before in another post... I won't be surprised if the guy turns up dead due to suicide via two gunshots to the head.

Character assassination requires air time to be sacrificed, they do not do this for no reason




I was referring to the closed meeting with Gavin, not the public meeting with the BBC. If you want to prove something, you go public... you do not meet in private behind closed doors and convince

one person and that evidence given there are not made available to be analysed by the experts in the field. As it turns out, one person can be fooled.  ::) .... Craig should have had that meeting

with some of the lead developers in Bitcoin and they could have made a join statement to the public.  ;)


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: mirana12345 on May 11, 2016, 04:45:46 PM
Why would we put respect on him , for what ? Because he's claiming to be something he is not ? What kind of person does that?
I am yet to see signed message you talk about, and when you find it , post it in this format :

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
msg
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
satoshi's known address
signature
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Oh, wait.. you can't..


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: thejaytiesto on May 11, 2016, 05:14:08 PM
I was thinking "amazing, we've gotten over this Craig S Wright incident already, time to move on with this bullshit", but I log in to the forum and guess what, first thing I see is this thread.

Please stop making threads of Craig Wright, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto. Stop looking for Satoshi Nakamoto, we will never find him, it's over, we can never prove who invented Bitcoin, just deal with it and start doing something more productive.


Title: Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name
Post by: AGD on May 12, 2016, 06:21:18 AM
Why would we put respect on him , for what ? Because he's claiming to be something he is not ? What kind of person does that?
I am yet to see signed message you talk about, and when you find it , post it in this format :

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
msg
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
satoshi's known address
signature
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Oh, wait.. you can't..

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