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Title: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: yasiridha on May 06, 2016, 04:08:20 PM
Last night was fine i manged to recover from -0.11 to -0.04 on playing manual win chance 90%
Today this happens and i could swear its not a coincidence

As soon as you play all your bank even at 90% !!!! you simply lose it, i deposit 20$ - 10$ - 30$  ;D
i roll at 90 with zero bet and all bets are green but once i put it on max i get red roll at 90%  >:( >:(

bet:10,756,864,163
bet:10,757,489,921
bet:10,758,577,990

FAIR PLAY HA !!!

So guys have you been here before !!  :-\


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: longbob72 on May 06, 2016, 04:10:33 PM
Last night was fine i manged to recover from -0.11 to -0.04 on playing manual win chance 90%
Today this happens and i could swear its not a coincidence

As soon as you play all your bank even at 90% !!!! you simply lose it, i deposit 20$ - 10$ - 30$  ;D
i roll at 90 with zero bet and all bets are green but once i put it on max i get red roll at 90%  >:( >:(

bet:10,756,864,163
bet:10,757,489,921
bet:10,758,577,990

FAIR PLAY HA !!!

So guys have you been here before !!  :-\


provably fair doesn't translate to always win, sir. your luck can still go bad.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: SyGambler on May 06, 2016, 04:16:04 PM
if you were talking about other dice site I may agree with you , but Primedice hell no
this site proved to be the best in the market and all people here trust PD , so it was just your luck
if PD wasn't fair you wouldn't see it surviving all this time with the huge community , also you would have seen people playing at lower house edge sites


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: michietn94 on May 06, 2016, 04:25:38 PM
I'm ever did this too when I got some profit from martiangle , I try to gamble all with 90% chance of winning to make quick profit.
But the result not always been like I'm expected.

----
At least, I'm bet on how much I can afford to lose so I'm no regret at all !


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: DeathAngel on May 06, 2016, 04:26:29 PM
PrimeDice is definitely provably fair, there are numerous calculations & math that verify this. It looks like you've been very unlucky OP. I am sorry for your losses.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: NLNico on May 06, 2016, 04:56:12 PM
I am 99% sure that all of those new accounts complaining about the provably fair mechanism are the same idiot guy, but just in case you are not:



If you are interested in Provably fair, read my article at: https://dicesites.com/provably-fair You might have been cheated by PD, but luckily you can verify it by the provably fair mechanism, so you can know for a fact if you have been cheated or not :) No need to trust any gambling site when it comes to bet results. To make it more easy, I have a specific verifier for PD too: https://dicesites.com/primedice/verifier


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: lite on May 06, 2016, 05:01:04 PM
Last night was fine i manged to recover from -0.11 to -0.04 on playing manual win chance 90%
Today this happens and i could swear its not a coincidence

As soon as you play all your bank even at 90% !!!! you simply lose it, i deposit 20$ - 10$ - 30$  ;D
i roll at 90 with zero bet and all bets are green but once i put it on max i get red roll at 90%  >:( >:(

bet:10,756,864,163
bet:10,757,489,921
bet:10,758,577,990

FAIR PLAY HA !!!

So guys have you been here before !!  :-\

Sometimes luck runs out, it has happened with me too lot of times but my bets were low. i've only won once on max bet.(it was by mistake)
sorry for your loss.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: yasiridha on May 06, 2016, 05:27:04 PM
thx for your feedback guys, i will do it again with 30$ this time and see what happens


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: buddu on May 06, 2016, 05:36:44 PM
No wonder these types of accusations to be appeared after what someone lost on PD.I have been playing for long time and never experienced anything wrong.When someone wins huge amount then doesn't say site is not fair that's why he won.Next time try to play with what you can afford to loose.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: maxhor on May 06, 2016, 05:36:58 PM
thx for your feedback guys, i will do it again with 30$ this time and see what happens

Better never gamble when you are frustrated and don't want to afford anything there, i would like to suggest you always do gambling what you can afford to lose and learn how risky gambling is than you can play at any gambling without crying after lost.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: interbtc on May 06, 2016, 06:12:16 PM
How in the world can you make such statements and statistics from only three rolls ? Just because you had bad luck doesnt mean that the game
isnt provably fair and honest. I am playing on PD for years now and i both lost and won the strangest of odds, and i can tell you that it definitely is fair by my count.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: amacar2 on May 06, 2016, 06:13:10 PM
Provably fair means results are fair not results will be always win. And that also emplies for your chance of wining, i mean that 90% doesn't mean 100% win, so i see this only as your frustrasation after lossing all you have. Never gamble all of your balance on one bet, good luck and sorry for your loss.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: yasiridha on May 06, 2016, 06:46:11 PM
you only win to lose, im sure now

AGAIN 30$ depo...
Win up to 55$

LOST it ALL as son as the bet is max

bet:10,760,833,648
bet:10,760,734,342

i'm not making any accusation i'm just saying that provably fair can be used in their favor every max bit and proving the hash is only formalities.

TOTAL
WAGERED
18.10560756

TOTAL
PROFIT
-0.21463977


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: socks435 on May 06, 2016, 06:53:06 PM
you only win to lose, im sure now

AGAIN 30$ depo...
Win up to 55$

LOST it ALL as son as the bet is max

bet:10,760,833,648
bet:10,760,734,342

i'm not making any accusation i'm just saying that provably fair can be used in their favor every max bit and proving the hash is only formalities.

TOTAL
WAGERED
18.10560756

TOTAL
PROFIT
-0.21463977
So you mean if you max the bet you will lose? even the chance is 90%.. i experience it before but in 80% if i max the bet it will turn into lose.. and i think i am just bad luck in that time..


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: yasiridha on May 06, 2016, 06:54:18 PM
No wonder these types of accusations to be appeared after what someone lost on PD.I have been playing for long time and never experienced anything wrong.When someone wins huge amount then doesn't say site is not fair that's why he won.Next time try to play with what you can afford to loose.

if u read the post well, i said i won and recovered but losing at max is the issue here, bty I can afford it im not crying over it buddy,


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: Baby Rage on May 06, 2016, 06:56:28 PM
there is always a chance, you were just unlucky.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: ndnh on May 06, 2016, 06:58:44 PM
i'm not making any accusation i'm just saying that provably fair can be used in their favor every max bit and proving the hash is only formalities.


You can simply verify your bets using a third-party verifier like https://dicesites.com/primedice/verifier :)


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: yasiridha on May 06, 2016, 07:00:22 PM
you only win to lose, im sure now

AGAIN 30$ depo...
Win up to 55$

LOST it ALL as son as the bet is max

bet:10,760,833,648
bet:10,760,734,342

i'm not making any accusation i'm just saying that provably fair can be used in their favor every max bit and proving the hash is only formalities.

TOTAL
WAGERED
18.10560756

TOTAL
PROFIT
-0.21463977
So you mean if you max the bet you will lose? even the chance is 90%.. i experience it before but in 80% if i max the bet it will turn into lose.. and i think i am just bad luck in that time..

if you play now you will notice the rolls is under 10 in a raw and over 90 in a raw and u can never expect whats next until u hit max and loss, i'v been on PD almost 2 years (not sure) and it was't like that ever


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: mindrust on May 06, 2016, 07:05:00 PM
That's why you shouldn't have gambled your hard-earned money in the first place.

Now you learnt your lesson, i hope.

Playing with your trash money(i don't know what the hell that is tbh) is fine, playing with your rent money... NO no.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: JasonXG on May 06, 2016, 07:38:29 PM
Last night was fine i manged to recover from -0.11 to -0.04 on playing manual win chance 90%
Today this happens and i could swear its not a coincidence

As soon as you play all your bank even at 90% !!!! you simply lose it, i deposit 20$ - 10$ - 30$  ;D
i roll at 90 with zero bet and all bets are green but once i put it on max i get red roll at 90%  >:( >:(

bet:10,756,864,163
bet:10,757,489,921
bet:10,758,577,990

FAIR PLAY HA !!!

So guys have you been here before !!  :-\


I think it was bad luck but I have also had the feeling when you go all in that you lose. It happened to oftent to be coincidence. Sorry about your expierence.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: jjoorriissjjuuhh on May 06, 2016, 07:46:28 PM
Dont bet and your luck wont go bad.
You just got very unlucky I think.
As far as I know they are actually fair.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: Kotone on May 06, 2016, 08:00:32 PM
I experienced that too on 90% but it doesnt mean they are not fair.
Luck is what we need to win, just gamble for fun, dont let the game eats you.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: yasiridha on May 06, 2016, 09:28:50 PM
If you're unlucky at one dice site well why not just try the different one, at least there are plenty of dice sites out there
thats right but i just wanted to make up my losses in PD.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: FriedIV on January 19, 2017, 01:06:31 PM
Been playing PD for almost 6 years. And the sad truth is, shit happens. The theory of large numbers and just chance allow for anything to happen. And trust that it will. One reason why a martingale will always loose in the end.

Primedice is as good as it get for random. And the social scene is sometimes fun too.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: adaseb on January 19, 2017, 01:12:12 PM
Yeah i've been there done that. I actually assumed that some sites use some "house edge adjuster" when you start betting like 50% > your bankroll and make you lose the next 1-2 rolls to clean you out but after verifying the seeds, it just seems like bad luck.

Basically don't martingale or don't do 90% wins where you BET BIG after you get like 2-3 red rolls in a row and think the 4th one has to be a win because it won't always be.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: Magisterek on January 19, 2017, 01:22:54 PM
PrimeDice is realy good site. U can't play with agressive, its psychic not provably fair.

I up 0.005 to 0.15 and other times cant up 0.0005 to 0.001 - its luck.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: YuginKadoya on January 19, 2017, 02:24:22 PM
Last night was fine i manged to recover from -0.11 to -0.04 on playing manual win chance 90%
Today this happens and i could swear its not a coincidence

As soon as you play all your bank even at 90% !!!! you simply lose it, i deposit 20$ - 10$ - 30$  ;D
i roll at 90 with zero bet and all bets are green but once i put it on max i get red roll at 90%  >:( >:(

bet:10,756,864,163
bet:10,757,489,921
bet:10,758,577,990

FAIR PLAY HA !!!

So guys have you been here before !!  :-\


Probably fair enough but this is gambling and I think your luck with Prime Dice didn't stop until your third bet but be vigilant cause you would never know your luck and this is gambling anything can really happen even if you are always winning

I had a bet like that once I am very very happy with the result of my bets and keep on betting until it happens and turn my winnings into despair and my suggestion would be to learn to stop at your own risk and you not not immune in losing.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: Kprawn on January 19, 2017, 04:49:16 PM
Been playing PD for almost 6 years. And the sad truth is, shit happens. The theory of large numbers and just chance allow for anything to happen. And trust that it will. One reason why a martingale will always loose in the end.

Primedice is as good as it get for random. And the social scene is sometimes fun too.

You have many variants on the Martingale strategy, but in my opinion none of them are guaranteed to work every time. Some of the sites

seem to have Martingale counters in place, but PD are not one of them. Their provably fair system can be independently verified, so I think

they are above board. As you stated... Shit Happens.  ::)


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: ImHash on January 19, 2017, 05:08:57 PM
Posting on a 6 month old thread though :D :D prime dice or not, if people try any casino and experience the same results then they will never go back there again and I think every one should see for themselves by trying a casino, my advice for anyone is to only bet once after setting the client seed then clear browser or casino site's data stored on browser close and reopen it and go back to that site again set client seed bet once and roll the dice.

Just tell me the results you might get lucky doing that.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: GeniuSxBoY on January 19, 2017, 05:12:20 PM
Last night was fine i manged to recover from -0.11 to -0.04 on playing manual win chance 90%
Today this happens and i could swear its not a coincidence

As soon as you play all your bank even at 90% !!!! you simply lose it, i deposit 20$ - 10$ - 30$  ;D
i roll at 90 with zero bet and all bets are green but once i put it on max i get red roll at 90%  >:( >:(

bet:10,756,864,163
bet:10,757,489,921
bet:10,758,577,990

FAIR PLAY HA !!!

So guys have you been here before !!  :-\

It's totally your mistake, So why you play with zero bet ? IT's just would to wasting your seeds, Your lucky is gone :D and you just got unlucky.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: 0x0010 on January 19, 2017, 05:14:31 PM
I lost $10,000 AUD on Primedice in less than five fuckingminutes I'm GNONA kill my fucknig self


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: TheGodFather on January 19, 2017, 05:36:28 PM
I lost $10,000 AUD on Primedice in less than five fuckingminutes I'm GNONA kill my fucknig self

I'm sorry to hear that mate. But I think I have read your claim regarding it and was told that is your fault.
But your life's worth more than $10k AUD or even $100kAUD.



It's totally your mistake, So why you play with zero bet ? IT's just would to wasting your seeds, Your lucky is gone :D and you just got unlucky.

I also start my session in doing a zero bet. But just the first roll.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: Catmony on January 19, 2017, 06:21:44 PM
I lost $10,000 AUD on Primedice in less than five fuckingminutes I'm GNONA kill my fucknig self
That is really insane amount to be lost in five minutes but primedice rolls are fair and you can verify them. So i think either you have put all your balance in one bet or you have tried high multiplier with bigger bet size. Don't gamble with the amount you can't afford to loss however sorry for what you have lost.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: Bitcoinsummoner on January 19, 2017, 06:34:29 PM
I lost $10,000 AUD on Primedice in less than five fuckingminutes I'm GNONA kill my fucknig self
That is really insane amount to be lost in five minutes but primedice rolls are fair and you can verify them. So i think either you have put all your balance in one bet or you have tried high multiplier with bigger bet size. Don't gamble with the amount you can't afford to loss however sorry for what you have lost.
Such a large amount of money just lose in 5 minutes i can sleep and i think i will be depress in that time if i lose that amount..
Honestly playing dice game for me i really do not know if they are provably fair or not useless to use provably fair tool to know if they are really provably fair or not. the database can be edit easily since they are the owner they can do anything they want..


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: badjacks99 on January 19, 2017, 11:42:50 PM
Primedice for me had always been the go to site for dice gambling, they have proved a long time ago to be a provably fair casino. Shit happens, probably best to stay away from it for awhile and quite chasing your original losses. It could get way worse if your comstantly chasing.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: adaseb on January 20, 2017, 11:22:18 AM
I lost $10,000 AUD on Primedice in less than five fuckingminutes I'm GNONA kill my fucknig self

Let me guess, you put 8.5 BTC (around $10000 AUD) in Primedice and you went to the 99% win rate and at the first roll you've had a RED ?

Seems like an almost gauranteed way to win $100 but with sheer bad luck you can lose everything very fast.

I remember one, losing my entire BTC bankroll when I got 2 red on the 99% luck and I went all in and I couldn't believe it but 3 reds in a row on 99% luck.



Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: babsalt1975 on January 20, 2017, 11:47:26 AM
Last night was fine i manged to recover from -0.11 to -0.04 on playing manual win chance 90%
Today this happens and i could swear its not a coincidence

As soon as you play all your bank even at 90% !!!! you simply lose it, i deposit 20$ - 10$ - 30$  ;D
i roll at 90 with zero bet and all bets are green but once i put it on max i get red roll at 90%  >:( >:(

bet:10,756,864,163
bet:10,757,489,921
bet:10,758,577,990

FAIR PLAY HA !!!

So guys have you been here before !!  :-\


Of all the dice sites I have tried, primedice is the only that proves to be provably fair. I have won severally on max bets even on 9900X. You should not that when your hear 'provably fair you guaranteed  of a win even on a chance of 99.99% you can still lose. So yours is no exception.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: mOgliE on January 20, 2017, 12:31:14 PM
Last night was fine i manged to recover from -0.11 to -0.04 on playing manual win chance 90%
Today this happens and i could swear its not a coincidence

As soon as you play all your bank even at 90% !!!! you simply lose it, i deposit 20$ - 10$ - 30$  ;D
i roll at 90 with zero bet and all bets are green but once i put it on max i get red roll at 90%  >:( >:(

bet:10,756,864,163
bet:10,757,489,921
bet:10,758,577,990

FAIR PLAY HA !!!

So guys have you been here before !!  :-\


Well with your stats you still have a chance of 1/1000 to lose.
0.1% chance isn't that low when you think about it!
Check the status of provably fair of the site with your bets! It would be interesting for us to know.
And you can't prove anything without checking the seeds.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: janggernaut on January 20, 2017, 01:34:12 PM
I lost $10,000 AUD on Primedice in less than five fuckingminutes I'm GNONA kill my fucknig self

Let me guess, you put 8.5 BTC (around $10000 AUD) in Primedice and you went to the 99% win rate and at the first roll you've had a RED ?

Seems like an almost gauranteed way to win $100 but with sheer bad luck you can lose everything very fast.

I remember one, losing my entire BTC bankroll when I got 2 red on the 99% luck and I went all in and I couldn't believe it but 3 reds in a row on 99% luck.


Max win chance in primedice is 98%. I highly doubt it if he was putted that big amount on that chance. In his other thread, when he climbed from 4 to 8 btc then to 12 btc and then to 15 btc , and finally he ended with 17.5 btc he was always betting on low chance with martingale method (on pocket dice). He was used 97% win chance when he made 0.2 btc from 0.05 btc in justdice.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: eaLiTy on January 21, 2017, 10:45:45 PM
I lost $10,000 AUD on Primedice in less than five fuckingminutes I'm GNONA kill my fucknig self

Let me guess, you put 8.5 BTC (around $10000 AUD) in Primedice and you went to the 99% win rate and at the first roll you've had a RED ?

Seems like an almost gauranteed way to win $100 but with sheer bad luck you can lose everything very fast.

I remember one, losing my entire BTC bankroll when I got 2 red on the 99% luck and I went all in and I couldn't believe it but 3 reds in a row on 99% luck.

He was rolling at 3.2x if i remember correctly and got really aggressive and made two high rollers over 2 bitcoin and another simultaneous one with 3 bitcoin both ended up in the red and that is how he lost majority of his coins in just two rolls and the rest of the coins were lost before making these two high rollers. Yesterday i saw an user losing 19 bitcoin in a single roll  :o


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: chris200x9 on January 22, 2017, 01:30:00 AM
Yet another member who complain that a casino isn't provably fair. Honestly, it's just you're not lucky, that's all. If you're not ready to lose, then don't gamble in first place.
Also, PrimeDice won't be that popular if the site isn't provably fair.

We can see this kind of people on a daily basis. They know that from gambling we can't make money without luck, but they think that they can beat the luck with their tricks and start gambling until they lose all their money. Later they say that site is not probably fair. The site can't survive for a long time if they are doing some shady business.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: Shinpako09 on January 22, 2017, 02:15:05 AM
You simply dont know how gambling works. In gambling bet small, you win and bet big, you lose. Also you cant win in gambling everytime, instead you will lost most of the time. And that is the risk we are taking just for a win. Real G knows that.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: MinerHQ on January 22, 2017, 04:18:41 AM
You simply dont know how gambling works. In gambling bet small, you win and bet big, you lose. Also you cant win in gambling everytime, instead you will lost most of the time. And that is the risk we are taking just for a win. Real G knows that.

You also didn't understand how gambling works because as you said one will always lose when they bet big amount means gambling site is not fair or doing cheating. These games work on the probably fair system so no one can tell you when you will win and when you will lose. So you should always gamble very carefully and if you can't afford to lose big amount then go with small amounts always.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: BTCevo on January 22, 2017, 01:35:30 PM
You simply dont know how gambling works. In gambling bet small, you win and bet big, you lose. Also you cant win in gambling everytime, instead you will lost most of the time. And that is the risk we are taking just for a win. Real G knows that.

What do you mean by this? Dont think that gambling really works like that, may be it feels like sometimes like that but this is all about luck when you start to gamble and more over if you played on dice sites. So if you are keep winning by small betting, everyone will always bet small and then slowly recover every loss that they make. But the point is not that thing because all gambling site has house edge which mean in the long run you will be lose more money


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: Betwrong on January 22, 2017, 03:29:22 PM
You simply dont know how gambling works. In gambling bet small, you win and bet big, you lose. Also you cant win in gambling everytime, instead you will lost most of the time. And that is the risk we are taking just for a win. Real G knows that.

I know that feeling, many times I've been thinking that way, but of course this is unscientific. The probability of rolling a number in a dice game doesn't have the amount of the bet as a factor. You shouldn't bet more than you can afford to lose, but thinking that making smaller bets rises your chances to win is absurd.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: BettorChain.com on January 22, 2017, 11:06:28 PM
It is important to always respect this old rule: "never bet more than you can afford to lose".
Primedice is a recognized site, stop spamming the forum with rumors.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: terrate on January 23, 2017, 06:29:39 PM
i try roll today ald , don't bet big suddenly , mostly will lose.

small bet small earn then is ok.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: quit_gambling_for_good on January 24, 2017, 05:10:27 AM
I have seen people losing much more money than you on primedice


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: janggernaut on January 24, 2017, 05:49:11 AM
You simply dont know how gambling works. In gambling bet small, you win and bet big, you lose. Also you cant win in gambling everytime, instead you will lost most of the time. And that is the risk we are taking just for a win. Real G knows that.
You are the one who didn't know how gambling works. No matter how big or small of your bet doesn't mean you will lose or win. Each of your bet are independent because it have provably fair. Did you know when he was up to 17.5 BTC on pocket dice, he always betting with base bet 100 mbtc (0.1 BTC)? Is it still too small for you? Here's i said when he still up, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1756532.msg17551050#msg17551050 too bad i forgot to take screenshot or archived that, but if you not believe you can ask him directly


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: adaseb on January 24, 2017, 11:27:07 AM
Look like I said before, you aren't getting scammed on Primedice, if you lose money its simply because of bad luck.

The way provably fair works is that EACH AND EVERY bet in a session the admin always know if you will win or lose (if you don't change your OVER/UNDER or your win odds AND your seed).

However you only know if you got cheated AFTER the session but you can request the unhashed seed, add it to your clients seed and look at the noonce values for all your bets.

They will all be there and they will be correct, you aren't getting cheated.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: MWesterweele on January 24, 2017, 04:11:56 PM
Yep. You didn't get cheated on. You're just unlucky this time, or maybe you had have plenty of green in a row sometime before.

Primedice would never have let those 4900x payout of progame before if its not fair.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on January 24, 2017, 07:08:05 PM
It is important to always respect this old rule: "never bet more than you can afford to lose".
Primedice is a recognized site, stop spamming the forum with rumors.
You cannot always stick to that rule when you are in a gambling site and not atleast when you are winning momentarily .

i try roll today ald , don't bet big suddenly , mostly will lose.
small bet small earn then is ok.
Bet small amount so that you will only lose a small amount  :D thats a good one

I have seen people losing much more money than you on primedice
I have seen atleast 10 users losing more than 100 bitcoin in the past one month

Yep. You didn't get cheated on. You're just unlucky this time, or maybe you had have plenty of green in a row sometime before.

Primedice would never have let those 4900x payout of progame before if its not fair.
Progame was a similar case as he was having 100 plus bitcoin and then lost all of his coins doing some crazy rolls .I heard there was a delay one time when he tried to withdraw and then he rolled with it and lost everything,Bad luck .


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: just_Alice on January 24, 2017, 07:18:57 PM
Look like I said before, you aren't getting scammed on Primedice, if you lose money its simply because of bad luck.

The way provably fair works is that EACH AND EVERY bet in a session the admin always know if you will win or lose (if you don't change your OVER/UNDER or your win odds AND your seed).

However you only know if you got cheated AFTER the session but you can request the unhashed seed, add it to your clients seed and look at the noonce values for all your bets.

They will all be there and they will be correct, you aren't getting cheated.

I agree. Just today I lost over 100k sats on PD because I had 13 reds in a row on 2x, but I'm not complaining, I know it happens. I heard people were having up to 20 reds in row on 2x, just a bad luck. But the oppsite happens too. I had 14 greens a row on 2x once.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: GeniuSxBoY on January 25, 2017, 01:41:03 AM
Primedice would never have let those 4900x payout of progame before if its not fair.
Are you sure for this statement?


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: fullypak on January 25, 2017, 09:22:42 AM
It is important to always respect this old rule: "never bet more than you can afford to lose".
Primedice is a recognized site, stop spamming the forum with rumors.


This kind of rumours without any solid proofs will become free advertising for the site so primedice will not mind of these things. Gambling is not for making a money or profit but one should know that these are just games to give you entertainment and if you misuse it and start blaming site owners no use. Learn how to gamble with limited amount and be safer always.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: Creepings on January 31, 2017, 02:58:28 PM
Well provably fair huh? I guess you really sir a so unlucky having that 90% chance and still lose. That really is not a very good day for you. Well if that happens to me, i will not blame the site, the software is really made to make this gambling site a random and giving a side to any players. Gambling is a good friend of losing, better luck next time.


Title: Re: Primedice, so much for provably fair !!
Post by: genetik on January 31, 2017, 03:35:03 PM
You dont wanna play that much bank, i find with dice you want to play a fraction of a dollar and move the % if its anything like satoshidice. three times this week bored ive won off the faucet. i try to play small bets and adjust the percentage say 3 bets 70%, then 2 bets 5% (win chance) then 3 bets at 90% then 3 bets at 3%  for example and once my money gets up a tad i up the bet a little. i hit 038 @ .000002000 btc from memory it was .087 btc.

Having a larger bet is basically the same as having a low win percentage. They offset eachother. i hope this makes sense man im so tired