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well,,, if someone know about investing/double like ponzi scheme ( NOT HYIP )
just send me your refferal link ,,, :D

I think any of them worth investing
Double SITE = HYIP
everyone who has high returns are HYIP
Now, if you want to lose (donate) your coins go ahead

Why not? We have already seen honest programs like N9N, Delta Investments etc. don't say bullshit please.

Cryptopot.com is legit and it's base on a "Math Ponzi Model", but this model by it self has nothing wrong. But when people use it to mislead investors or promise any guaranteed payout, that's when people start to judge like a "bad ponzi". If there's nothing to hide, no hidden fees and if every detail of the game is made public it can't be called has a scam because all information is public.

Then it's up to the player to decide if they want to gamble and play. We like transparency and the CryptoPot team are trustworthy and time will prove that.

So yes, it's possible to have a legit ponzi, the providers just need to be a honest person and treat their players with respect.

thanks ,,, i will try the cryptopot.com :D

If you do not have investors the system collapses and not everyone will have their coins

On this site a very good book that talks with details about ponzi scheme and its consequences

https://pt.scribd.com/doc/265197653/You-Can-t-Cheat-an-Honest-Man-How-Ponzi-Schemes-and-Pyramid-Frauds-Work-James-Walsh

There is no legit 2x sites out there.

Think about it. How will they generate that kind of profit? Why don't they just keep their "methods" to themselves if it is actually that profitable? Why do they seek your investment to be able to run it?

The answer, my friend, is that they don't have an "experienced trading team" behind their screens. They're all scammers.

All HYIPs will remain ponzis. No way that it will change.

I think there's no HYIP or ponzi are legit most of them are scam even a new one.. better to stay away from them..

There can not be any legit ponzi site.
Everyone cares about their own money and how the could earn by legally or illegally.
Don't trust any of them. 

No ponzi or Hyip can stand longer it will collapse as soon as possible.

why should a ponzi collapse?
if it collapses it is because the webmaster collapses it...no other raeson can do it.

The only risk with a ponzi or hyip is "freezing"

But "freezing" is not the monopole of ponzi shemes...
take my genious U2cloudmining system...
it can freeze like a ponzi.

Other example:
buy a house...
let suppose it stay empty...no people will rent it and no people will buy it...
all is frozen like a ponzi can be... (lol)

As you can see...do not say always something without analysing what you say...

The difference with my genialissime u2cloudmining system is that it is now absolutly for free...so you fif it is frozen...
you have only frozen "time"...
Can be interesting in sommertime (lol)

We at www.cryptopot.com (http://www.cryptopot.com) have created a "patch" to fight the freezing you talk about by having the PrizePot that can be won. :)

Take a moment to read: https://cryptopot.com/rules/ (https://cryptopot.com/rules/)

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At Cryptopot you'll be able to find

There are 4 types of PrizePot Win Modes:

Top 1: The player with the highest amount deposited on a Game Node during the Qualify Stage will win all the Bitcoins in PrizePot.

TOP 3: The top 3 players with the highest amount deposited on a Game Node during the Qualify Stage will win all the Bitcoins in PrizePot equally between them.

Top 5: The top 5 players with the highest amount deposited on a Game Node during the Qualify Stage will win all the Bitcoins in PrizePot equally between them.

Top 10: The top 10 players with the highest amount deposited on a Game Node during the Qualify Stage will win all the Bitcoins in PrizePot equally between them.

There are 4 PrizePot Qualify Types:

All Week: The Qualify Stage is active from the start until the end of the round. All deposits are eligible to join the “PrizePot Top Players” ranking with a chance to win the PrizePot on the Game Node the deposit as made.

Half Week: The Qualify Stage is active from half of the round until the end of the round. Onde the Qualify starts, all deposits are eligible to join the “PrizePot Top Players” rankings with a chance to win the PrizePot on the Game Node the deposit as made.

Last Day: The Qualify Stage is active only on the last 24 hours of the Round. Once the Qualify is on, all deposits are eligible to join the “PrizePot Top Players” ranking with a chance to win the PrizePot on the Game Node the deposit as made.

Last Hour: The Qualify Stage is active only on the last hour of the Round. On the Qualify is on, all deposits are eligible to join the “PrizePot Top Players” rankings with a chance to win the PrizePot on the Game Node the deposit as made.

MORE information at self-moderated thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1467644.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1467644.0)

someone to understand what is on your site that person will need special glasses
my dear,
Your site has serious problems in the design and understanding

too much funny...even myself does not understand what I wanted saying...with the "fif"

Abour my design...design do please or does not please...
About understanding...who wants understand can understantd...you can talk about on this forum,on other forums,by PM or contact link on the site.
the principle is so easy...you earn more or less...
if you do not understand you risk earning less...
have fun...

If you want to provide service for people, you have to create mechanisms for easy comprehension. In the case of a website for example:

Having good design
have a clear and objective language
have a site that is easy to navigate

On your site is full of banner, the letters are too large and you use metaphors to explain people :o

in my opinion: It seems that forced you to make this site because it is single explanation I see that thou created a website like this.

I particularly tried to understand something on your site and could not.

The difficulties to understand is the same for every one...
The difference is in the "level" to understand it for each members.
The banners are a part of the revenue for the investors...
You have certainly made a little dividend for the shareholders...
If people believe that the site is not "productive" then they trade differently that the ones who believe that it will make good dividends...
The topic is not my site...but how will people share the profit of the site...
I agree that the design does not please every one...but the profit is often better then on wonderfull nice sites...
often wonderful nice sites are even scams...
With u2cloudmining you have an horrible ugly site making profit (lol)

Delta wasn't a ponzi. Gladimor paid everyone when it closed. Ponzis don't repay everyone when they close. That's what makes them a ponzi. Durrr.

've made some good money with many doubler sites.
Truth is you have to be the first to get in.
I think when others deposit high amounts is when the doubler collapses.

I see a new doubler with very low maximum and longevity fees so I
will be trying this one later today once I refer some other friends.

I like it! :)

HYIP = high-yield investment program != Ponzi scheme  ;)
I don't see any connection between HYIP term and Ponzi scheme, that's just a misunderstand created by ignorant people, so yes Delta Investments was a HYIP (although many DT / high ranked members claimed it was a Ponzi scheme).

It is possible to create an investment program which gives a (comparatively) high yield, like Gladimor did. He was essentially speculating (gambling) on alt coin price movements and promising to make good any losses from his own reserve. It didn't come to that. His trading was successful and it was my understanding he broke the T&C's of his service provider and had to shut it down. There was no dishonesty that I could see, he published his trades and took an agreed percentage as his payment.
I said this in my trust feedback for him. What other people say is up to them.

The term HYIP was hijacked by the scam industry for pretend credibility and is synonymous with Ponzi Scheme because the yield to investors is not created by legit business activity and funded by profits, but paid out from new investor deposits. When they slow down, the scheme collapses.
Look at the HYIP's on the monitor sites, they are claiming to be "forex trading" or "arbitraging" or other such lies.

The fact that the term "ponzi game" has been created to describe something which pays out early investors at the cost of later ones, but doesn't claim to do anything else, is a relatively new invention. It is still the basis for a scam, despite the operators claiming like this guy Cryptopot, to be honest blahblah.

The main problem for me with these games ever being legit or fair is the fact that other players can never be sure that the early (winning) deposits are not those of the admin.

Despite this Cryptopot's flashy website, I don't see them solving that problem, so they must be considered a scam by default.
If people like you think they can outwit the inherent fact that, by definition, there will be more losers than winners, even if the admin doesn't run off with all the money first, that's entirely up to them.
But when they start promoting scam sites by publically claiming large returns in order to tempt in new investors and increase their own payout at their expense, then they are no better than the scammers themselves and end up with the same red trust.

An example why CryptoPot is different from all the others in the past ;) Next round at www.cryptopot.com (http://www.cryptopot.com) will with the settings as above with a qualify set to "Half-week" and maybe with at TOP 1 winner ;)

More at ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1467644.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1467644.0)

If the ponzi was more a faucet basis, then it would gain more trust.

I saw this happen with someone who did this awhileback, just cant find the thread. But the OP just stopped paying or something cause people didnt buy certain packages for bigger faucet payouts I think.