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Other => Politics & Society => Topic started by: saddampbuh on May 10, 2016, 04:52:50 PM



Title: Illegal immigrants get $1,261 more welfare than American families
Post by: saddampbuh on May 10, 2016, 04:52:50 PM
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Illegal immigrant households receive an average of $5,692 in federal welfare benefits every year, far more than the average "native" American household, at $4,431, according to a new report on the cost of immigration released Monday.

The Center for Immigration Studies, in an analysis of federal cost figures, found that all immigrant-headed households — legal and illegal — receive an average of $6,241 in welfare, 41 percent more than native households. As with Americans receiving benefits such as food stamps and cash, much of the welfare to immigrants supplements their low wage jobs.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/illegal-immigrant-households-get-5692-in-welfare-1261-more-than-american-families/article/2590744


Title: Re: Illegal immigrants get $1,261 more welfare than American families
Post by: alphatv on May 13, 2016, 12:01:05 PM
Thats what Trump is raising. Seriously, these issues need to be addressed in a rightful manner.


Title: Re: Illegal immigrants get $1,261 more welfare than American families
Post by: Racey on May 13, 2016, 12:05:22 PM
Same here in the UK, they got cars mobile phones, always at the ATM.
I have no car nor mobile phone way too expensive, food prices are way above a normal budget.


Title: Re: Illegal immigrants get $1,261 more welfare than American families
Post by: Mike Christ on May 13, 2016, 06:50:17 PM
Eliminate the ability to inflate the currency and none of this would even be an issue, Joe Average would be too burdened immediately to allow it to happen.  Welfare sounds great until you realize you'll be footing the bill, then it's a matter of "Why am I funding someone else's family", especially when you can barely fund your own family or not at all (in the case of younger generations having to stay with their parents.)  But you don't have to feel this way when it's paid for through a watering-down of your purchasing power--sure, you'll feel it in the sense that things get more pricey, but that's not until way down the line, and you certainly aren't going to associate it with anything the state's doing (speaking of Joe Average still.)  It's harder to notice when it's gradual, thus the anger over it is sparse over a long period of time: nothing ever gets done about it, the source of the issue isn't even well understood: stealth tax.

But imagine a situation where you get a big bill one day demanding tax money over your funding of other people's families (particularly those who aren't even a part of your nation thus pay minimal taxes if any), and imagine this happened to everyone in the nation all at once.  RIOTS IN THE STREET.  Mass protests, refusal to pay the bill, demands that the system be changed, throwing people out of office, putting new people into it.  All because the state actually had to get the money directly from its citizenry to pay for its functions (well, either that or borrow the money, but that has its limits.)  This is the magic of a non-inflatable currency: it yields the gift of financial clarity.

Also has the benefit of keeping the state small, since it can't use the newly printed currency to consolidate businesses when there's no newly printed currency--you can look at China and its "national corporations" for what consolidation looks like in the end-game, born from Chinese inflation of their currency which spiraled into hyperinflation and thus was born the 'communist' incarnation of their nation--central planning looks good when you can't buy anything for yourself, but had this massive robbery not occurred to begin with, it would've never been open for consideration.

Anyway point is, bitcoin in its present state can't be inflated.  So that's how bitcoin can help this situation.


Title: Re: Illegal immigrants get $1,261 more welfare than American families
Post by: BADecker on May 13, 2016, 07:30:21 PM
That's like more than a dollar per planet where these illegal aliens come from - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1467947.0.

 :D ;D :D


Title: Re: Illegal immigrants get $1,261 more welfare than American families
Post by: xht on May 14, 2016, 06:59:19 AM
Illegal immigrants got nothing from their own countries so they try to get a better life. As long as they can get away with taking anything not tied down, they will continue to keep their hands out. so what a problem they got help by american goverment.


Title: Re: Illegal immigrants get $1,261 more welfare than American families
Post by: bryant.coleman on May 14, 2016, 08:32:42 AM
so what a problem they got help by american goverment.

The only problem is that it is not the responsibility of the American government to help them. Why should tax money from the American nationals should be used to help non-Americans? Third world nations should popularize family planning and control their population, rather than dumping their excess population on developed nations such as the United States and the European Union.


Title: Re: Illegal immigrants get $1,261 more welfare than American families
Post by: mOgliE on May 16, 2016, 07:13:06 AM
Please,  explain us how they receive this money.

How can they even apply to those welfares ?  They don't have bank account, they don't have ID, they don't have anything.

Explain us how they can get those 5k dollars.