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How do I know that the website will be scammed?

It's a big gamble.. You have to come in early, and leave before it folds. It is really not worth the risk... In all of these HYIP schemes there will always be a loser... well there have to be, because that

is how it is designed/funded. If you come in early, and you withdraw before it folds.. you will simply be one of the lucky people. I tried many of them will small amounts, just to see what they were

all about, and not one of them are still around. They run out of new members quite soon.. and the last people or the people who are still in when the funding dry up, are always the losers.  >:(

Don't know which one you're talking about but they are all scams.  Just stay away from the investor based games section.

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Remember that 99% of cloud mining, BTCmultiplier and financial investments services
are totally bogus, hoax, scam businesses designed to rip you off.

Yes they all scammed in the end.. but if there's a counting number of who's the last investor or the last people withdraw the money, you will see & predict how this hyip last long or end soon.. 
Unless if this web of HYIP or Investing Company, can show you the exact location of their office and the picture of their company.. to make the HYIP looks promising ?? ^_^

maybe I'm judging you wrong, but I saw someone already do exactly the same question out, what caught my attention was that this person had made a post after I said site a certain someone was scam

Therefore I will make you a question

For what reason did this question and that is your first post?

Was thinking the same thing Slow

I think we both know who this member is.

There are many monitors that test most of the sites like allhyipinfo, gsmonitor etc. But again you don't know when they would run and as well they sometimes do selective payments.

All those monitors are fake as they're paid a really small amount daily to show that sites are so called 'paying'. So its a joint scam, both the hyip and the monitor services.

Most(maybe all  ;D) hyip monitors site is bullshit service they receive commission from ponzi owner to listed his site

I don't know exactly what you're talking about, but for your information I am asking this because I already scammed from those site, I am asking this question because I just want to know if there is a way to avoid being scam from those HYIP site.
And someone tells me that some of my questions will be answered here. that is why I am here, questioning and learning from the expert.
Good day! I hope I answer your question too.

Why bother with the site in general? lol.

If youre looking at hyip I`d rather just play a 90% roll at a known dice place and be okay with 1 win, then not knowing to get paid out.

A lot of people probably run a monitor, deposit a decent amount and then tell the site owner that they are monitoring the site. The site will obviously pay that person to get a good rep, but not others.

wut? All ponzi will be scam

in my OWN observation:
when they give you Discount or Promo on the investment on the 10 or 15 days after the website launch, why?
--so people will invest more so they can gather more money and left with a lot of money. simple as that also always keep in mind that invest only what you can afford to lose!

in my own experience just invest when the hyips site is new and they promising x2 of your deposit for only 24hours i think this hyip site 3-5 days only and then they ready to scammed all investor .

There is a way to know, if some one told you that they are doubling your money or they offer more than 10% higher than any good bank.
Know they are 100% scam as well you can just search the site name in here main forum page to see if others say anything about that site.

The scammer when you create your website it invests money in ponzi site and the scammers know that running a ponzi site and that this site that he is running has a limited lifetime, but the scammer needs to recover their money invested. What the scammer does?

The scammer opens your site ponzi and he finds another difficulty (where to find people to invest in your site ponzi?) The only way the scammer has to get investors is paying advertising. but you should not pay advertising anywhere, the scammer must buy advertising in your niche market. (HYIP monitors, prestigious blogs, faucets, melowads, eadsy, coinad ...)

But it turns out that HYIP monitors are more effective and expensive. for you have a notion on the monitor azhyipmonitor the cost of advertising for a banner [728x90 px] costs $40 a week and the banner [125x125 px] costs $35 a week.

The scammer spend money on server, domain, script, programmer and hyip monitors and then he opens the site ponzi. Scammer has to pay the first investors (the first idiots) to these early investors to invest more money and call more people ... when scammer gets his profit he can close the site.

To ask, why the scammer not continue with the site ponzi scammer already that this profit?

Because of the high cost of advertising and because investors receive the cost of new investments. The scammmer can not risk losing money so close as soon as he already has a considerable profit


That is when the scammer gets the profit he closes the site, you do not have to predict how many days one hyip site will stop paying ... because from the first day the site hyip makes selective payments.

I have helped you to understand the basic operation of a HYIP site.

Unique crypto HYIP projects don't even require for expensive promotion either big investment from admin's side, this means it's possible to run a big project with about $100~ only and get back up to $50,000~ in few days only.
In addition to this, HYIP monitors are quite pointless and worthless for the crypto projects because those monitors are not effective (they are meant for classic HYIPs). In crypto business it's only needed to be unique and original, that's all.

so I told him that my explanation was basic.

I know most of the scammer today are children who buy everything ready.

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The most important thing is that never and never invest in these shitty sites as HYIP, DOUBLE AND PONZI

That is awesome, roll your own scam!!

Save your bitcoin and just assume that they won't. I had a recent encounter with one (BTC Trust [dot] biz). I made the
minimum investment and when I tried to withdraw my profits 24 hours later, I was told that I would need to deposit an
additional $150 in order to 'activate' withdrawals. Mind you, they never mention this requirement anywhere on the site.

You'll suffer a big loss if you would invest to a hyip,doubler. There's no such easy money nowadays. So be careful guys

Stay away from this HYIPs, doubler, and Ponzi sites they will just steal your money for no reason. Better to look for an alternative ways how to make your money productive.

You can't know. Only maybe if you get into the ponzi as one of the first and only use a smaller amount then you can get money for mostly aboutm2 weeks. Most sites close after 1 orm2 months. Some take tour money right away from the beginning. Netter to keep away. Dont support these sites. If no one supports them they won't be around for much longer time.

I totally agree with you. Investing on hyipd would end up losing all your hard earned money and end up crying. You can grow your Bitcoin thru trading if your really good at it even if it has a little risk.

so why you always comment on this section? :) funny

all are scams

Actually,you can look at this forum in "scam accusations".
Also it is really easy to spot a ponzi/scam,however if you dont know you can use this : https://bitmakler.net/investmentfund
or there is also a good thread at this forum,in this board actually : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1339672.0

You'll never know. But you can guess it. You can guess how much money they spend for running a hyip program. And than you can check how much money they earn until today.

How to know how much money they spend for running a program?
If {
they are using unique script, unique design, listing on many monitors, ev ssl, (fake) register company, dedicated server, at least they will still paying more than 15 days. (because they have to waiting balance on profit or waiting for big investor)
}
else
If
{
they are using licensed script, ready to use template, listing on few monitors, positive ssl, not regiter (fake) company, VPS or dedicated server, at least they will paying more than 3 days.
}
else
{
NOT PAYING
{

How to know how much money hyip site earn until today?
You can check daily on http://investorsstartpage.com/ how much deposit come in every day to your favorite hyip program. But not all of the money are from investors, most of them are from monitor and monitor's money is from hyip admin.

If {
hyip site in profit/or not yet profit, and new investor/deposit always come in, there is a chance they will live longer and paying.
 }
Else
{
hyip site in profit/or not yet profit and new investor/deposit getting less from day to day, than the site will turn to scam.
}

Rules :
Higher ROI = Faster scam.
Never invest big amount.
Never invest on after xxx day plan. (except after 1 day plan)
Never invest on manual payment program (except if they are already lived longer)
Never reinvest if you are in profit.
Invest from hyip monitor so you get RCB (check one by one the biggest RCB offer)
Do not trust new/unpopular hyip monitor

First time i try to invest on hyip i lost my money, just try and try you'll know their ability.
And if you love to play in hyip, bitcointalk forum is not the place.
Please donot give me negative trust, just share my experience.

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You gave all these tips to promote your hyip monitor site.

Unbelievable how some people make money at the expense of the loss of others.

All hyip sites make selective payments.

Bad web designs, bad social engineering, bought script, and a sentences like "double your bitcoin in just 24hrs" and "5 btc maximum, 0.01btc minimum."; stolen pictures and paragraphs about the details of website, and also a "Newbie" member who always announce his/her HYIP.

There's so many HYIP sites. But dont trust them your bitcoin, most of the complains about their invesment being scammed in here was came fom HYIP sites. Better keep it rather than scammed by scammers. Be careful with your money, dont entrust your money to any HYIP sites. In this day any investment sites can be scam so be careful.

Res Ipsa Loquitor - your title speaks for itself. Never ever invest in HYIP sites. The reason is simple: if you will earn on its early stages, the earnings are from other poor victims like you; and if you invest late and nobody will going to invest after you, your money will simply vanish.

Either way mentioned above, your are helping HYIP site owners earn money with no sweat. Come think of it.

Agree, i dont know why OP want to know about them. ofcourse they all scam
Even paying that site only pay who first registered and do deposit and the last one only lost money

You will see it in the site monitoring hyip but my suggestion is stay away with hyip and ponzi ,I experienced some site closing without even you got roi so it's very difficult to earn you will just lost.

You will be scammed not at firt but afterna few deposites. They will almost certainly will pay you fpr the first few small deposits then they stop when you make a bigger one. They sometimes even wait till a few big deposits. The basically let you feed big and fat then slaughter you and make even more then of they has slaughtered you earlier. But every single one is a ponzi which means it is a scam. Every single one of those sites are scams no matter what they say. They all work exactly the same way and they just have different bs background stories giving a vague idea where their profits are coming from which is always clearly bs and even laughable.


Umm no.. They are sponsored by the sites themselves.

never ever ever ever invest in hyip sites. If it is too good to be true, it is not true! Even if it is common that the first investors will get payout, still it is  not good because the payout you received are from the new investors that are also victimized by you. Never ever ever invest in hyip offers.... ever...

This has the easiest answer..  DON'T USE THEM IN THE END YOU DO AND WILL ALWAYS LOSE YOUR COINS.. I'V USED THEM AND WON SOME BUT IN MOST CASES YOU WILL LOSE MORE THEN YOU GET BACK..just learn how to do alt coin trading or stake altcoins. Hyips and a sure scam

If it is HYIP, it is %100 certain, you will get scammed. It doesn't matter they are making payments or not. You can get your first payment, and second if you are lucky. Third won't be there. This happened thousands of times in the past yet people still join this scam. The only winner here is the HYIP owner, unless he/she ends up in jail.

Even if you get some payout (when you are the first investors), that is not to be proud of because those payouts are coming from new victims that have invested to these hyip sites.

Better stay away from them and you will thank me along with others here that advices the same as mine.

I think you quoted the wrong post. Because your reply is a little bit misleading. Check it for yourself.. But your statement is a fact, The first payout in hyip is come from new investors because that is the main source of income of hyips that's why they are classified as an investor based games, So nothing is new there better avoid it if you don't want to lose or risk any amount.

I agree. In fact, you could be given negative trust for participating in a HYIP because you're helping the fraudsters operating it at exchange for a portion of the funds stolen from newer ones.

ahahahah you make me smile :D and it's not easy!

For example, if you know 100 people are a thief, who will scam you?
This is the same logic applied to your question :)

ALL hyip are scam, because such rate of gain are impossible, also a loan shark has a lowest rate... Why an hyip admin need your 5$ :D when he can just "double" the money?

 

They are only paying on the first day.. the second day they are planning to scam all the investors.
So its not recommend joining on those ponzi.

nothing all hyip only wait to scam

Better to dont expect for hyip that you can make a profit to invest almost all investment site online are scammers better to dont try and stay away to them looks for a legit way like buying altcoins.

For me, investing to HYIP sites is immoral. I know there are lots of people who will be against to my point of view about this. My reason is that, even if you know that is HYIP and think that as long as you join early, you will end up profiting - by this fact alone, you know very well that your profit is coming from new comers that you know they will eventually lose their hard earned money when there is no new investors coming in. So, better not invest to it and look for other investment vehicles that are reputable and legit.

You sure you can make profit off those sites? I only see people saying its a 100% scam, have you made decent profit off of it?

The only thing to try to investment website are legit or paying is to invest or if your friend tested it like he already investment or put money on the investment website but always invest once and never do it agian for sure that hyip are going to be scam

I disagree, you'd rather donate it to badbitcoin, especially if they saved you from losing money from scams.

Even if your friends are having success with investing to these hyip sites, there is still come a time that these sites will run all of the money invested to their sites. Look at hashocean, they operated for a very long time and with these people who invested in the site think that it is not hyip and recommend it to their friends only to find out that it is indeed a hyip and scam site.