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Other => Beginners & Help => Topic started by: jubalix on February 28, 2013, 02:27:30 PM



Title: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: jubalix on February 28, 2013, 02:27:30 PM
So if if blockchain.info was shut down could I get access to my BT in thier wallet

Also would this stuff my usage of multibit as I understand it it relies on Blockchain.info

what steps should I take to ensure I can access my blockchain wallet even if blockchain is gone


Title: Re: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: 2weiX on February 28, 2013, 02:37:59 PM
didnt read the IF and experienced a slight shiver.

thanks, OP.


Title: Re: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: Jouke on February 28, 2013, 02:46:13 PM
So if if blockchain.info was shut down could I get access to my BT in thier wallet

Also would this stuff my usage of multibit as I understand it it relies on Blockchain.info

what steps should I take to ensure I can access my blockchain wallet even if blockchain is gone

Multibit relies on the blockchain. Blockchain.info is not the blockchain. It is just a site that shows information about the blockchain.


Title: Re: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: jubalix on February 28, 2013, 02:51:34 PM
Ok so mutli bit them just looks at the last bit of the blockchain?????


Title: Re: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: Meizirkki on February 28, 2013, 02:54:41 PM
You will not be able to log into blockchain.info wallet if the site is gone. However, you will be able to use another wallet to recover your BTC


Title: Re: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: jubalix on February 28, 2013, 03:03:36 PM
You will not be able to log into blockchain.info wallet if the site is gone. However, you will be able to use another wallet to recover your BTC

what would i need

to do this


eg export what from blockchain wallet

also

do I need to get a new backup after every transaction?


Title: Re: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: piuk on February 28, 2013, 03:27:14 PM
You will not be able to log into blockchain.info wallet if the site is gone. However, you will be able to use another wallet to recover your BTC

what would i need

to do this


eg export what from blockchain wallet

also

do I need to get a new backup after every transaction?

You would need the wallet.aes.json file which can be downloaded from the wallet home screen. On the login page if you click the Download Backup button there are some instructions.

A refresh backup needs to be made after a new address is generated, not after every transaction.


Title: Re: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: Gabi on February 28, 2013, 03:30:00 PM
If you backuped your wallet from blockchain.info then you are ok.

If you didn't and you totally relied on blockchain.info and you do not have the wallet on your computer/usb key/paper wallet, then you are fucked (and you deserve that, not having a backup of your wallet? fail)


Title: Re: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: DannyHamilton on February 28, 2013, 03:30:06 PM
do I need to get a new backup after every transaction?

No.  You need to get a new backup every time you create a new bitcoin address.  As long as you have that backup, you can still access your bitcoin even if blockchain.info was shut down.  If the FBI (or some hacker) gets control of blockchain.info, they will not be able to access your bitcoin (you are running the security browser extension (https://blockchain.info/wallet/browser-extension), right?)


Ok so mutli bit them just looks at the last bit of the blockchain?????

MultiBit looks at the entire blockchain, it just doesn't necessarily get its blockchain information from blockchain.info.  It gets the blockchain information from any peer that it connects to that is running a full node.


Title: Re: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: Gabi on February 28, 2013, 03:31:11 PM
Please note, blockchain.info and blockchain are two totally different things.


Title: Re: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: ryanbrownstar on February 28, 2013, 03:32:41 PM
If you log into your wallet on Blockchain and head to Settings > General, you can configure automatic email backups.  This will make it so that a new backup wallet gets sent to you any time there is a change in addresses (created or deleted) and ensures you've always got a good fallback point should anything go bad.


Title: Re: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: Gabi on February 28, 2013, 03:34:44 PM
Is this email backup encrypted?? Otherwise the email provider will be very happy....


Title: Re: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: darkmethod on February 28, 2013, 04:12:13 PM
didnt read the IF and experienced a slight shiver.

thanks, OP.

Same here. Freaked me out for a solid 10 seconds.


Title: Re: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: Ditto on February 28, 2013, 04:15:24 PM
If you log into your wallet on Blockchain and head to Settings > General, you can configure automatic email backups.  This will make it so that a new backup wallet gets sent to you any time there is a change in addresses (created or deleted) and ensures you've always got a good fallback point should anything go bad.
You can also make it backup your wallet to Dropbox automatically everytime addresses change.


Title: Re: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: JordanL on February 28, 2013, 04:15:43 PM
didnt read the IF and experienced a slight shiver.

thanks, OP.

Same here. Freaked me out for a solid 10 seconds.


No paper backup?   ;)


Title: Re: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: ryanbrownstar on February 28, 2013, 06:15:08 PM
The email backup is AES encrypted.  As for a paper wallet backup - I don't think there is an option to do this automatically on blockchain, but you can do it manually.


Title: Re: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: Gabi on February 28, 2013, 06:40:47 PM
I wonder how many blockchain.info users have a backup of their wallet. 1%?


Title: Re: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: ryanbrownstar on February 28, 2013, 06:42:14 PM
Shoot, it was the first thing I configured in addition to two-step verification.  It's all pretty easy to do.


Title: Re: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: darkmethod on February 28, 2013, 07:25:33 PM
didnt read the IF and experienced a slight shiver.

thanks, OP.

Same here. Freaked me out for a solid 10 seconds.


No paper backup?   ;)

Unfortunately you're right. I just opened an account with them yesterday.

*doing it now*


Title: Re: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: jubalix on February 28, 2013, 11:00:47 PM
when I go to the blockchain info wallet, home

I see the down load/email/google drive/drop dox

but when I press download it just pops up a screen that has a string of numbers
and only save as html or cut and paste

Not a wallet.aes.json

do I have to remname the cut and pase file into a wallet.aes.json???


it certainly does not look like a wallet.dat file

can I upload the wallet.aes.json to multibit and other clients
if yes what pass words do I need??
or keys


I see the import/export link

I click on that

but nowhere does it let me export my wallet



Title: Re: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: spark on March 30, 2013, 07:36:05 PM
I also dont understand this string of numbers/letters and what to do with it.
However i just chose the 'email wallet' selection.


Title: Re: if https://blockchain.info/wallet was shut down (FBI) could i get my BTC out
Post by: jubalix on March 31, 2013, 12:20:04 AM
Ok having been here a while we need something to explain this to newbies like me @ the time.

See Blockchain.info just confuses the $%$# out of people with the Block chain

We have to explain that the BlockChain is the database, that anyone can get and 1000's of people have

the blockchain.info is just one of may services to view that BlockChain and interact with it.

Like email, I can use several clients to look at the same email over many years, except the blockchain is even better because not only microsoft/yahoo has my records, there are thousands of copys other people hold for me, and its all encrypted....so I and only I can view and build from scratch

Also, when to back up, how, and why the downlaod button is missing from the export.

Further explain how you rebuild from scratch your wallet of a different service by importing you private keys, and that every one should try this with 0.01  BTC so they are sure about what they are doing.

Seriously!