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Monero (a rudimentary cryptocurrency) is officially dead, why you may ask?


What Monero used to offer:
Bytecoin Copy Clone


What Monero now offers:
Bytecoin Copy Clone
Arrogance, hatred against all the other cryptocurrencies



Basically, Monero is worth less than OompaLoompaCoin, heck, practically any coin that has real developers developing real features... Monero offers absolutely nothing over what 99% of these alt coins offer, even some of the worst alt coins offer more innovative features than Monero. And to those Monero bagholders who say that "Monero Is Anonymous!!! Without Monero There is No Privacy!!!" is something it offers, that's not true.. There are far superior alternatives out there that actually have a GUI and whatnot :D

Verdict: Monero is dead, there hasn't been worthwhile development in years, it's a practically abandoned coin with few remaining bagholders who're desperate for it to get some attention. I'm gonna feel really sorry to all the Monero bagholders that are still "HODLING" when Monero reaches 0.05$, 0.025$, 0.0125$ etc.

I concur  ;D

Stupid stupid coin.

Every altcoin that isn't ETH is doomed.  Monero in particular has a horrible community and is always attacking other coins and works in the most despicable ways. 

And the dev is massively overweight, i just dont like or trust the obese, sorry, it's just the way i feel.  Gluttony is one of the seven deadly sins

Up by 2.5% because btc is down. 

It basically means monero didnt move just bagholders bagholding

lol I see what you did there ;) Moderated like all the propaganda Monero threads where just the slightest criticism is immediately deleted

they actually have one unmoderated thread but they don't really post there ::)

Slow metabolism is a despicable sin.

Bitcoin maximalists hatin' on altcoins. Altcoin pumpers hatin' each other. Monero hatin' everyone, including Monero Speculation flame wars amongst themselves.

And eca.sh hatin' everything not excluding God, Satan, ovulating supermodels, and pizza*.

*Unless it is topped with crotch cheese, rimbits, and lugies.


They require a smooth master to crack the whip preventing them from strangling each other.

Monero is not only not dead - it is the best cryptocurrency project. I tell you why:

Without Privacy (security of self) this is where we are heading : https://infowars.wikia.com/wiki/Society_of_Control. A cryptocurrency should be private by default and public voluntarily, not vice versa: https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero. The internet got privacy wrong, we should learn from that mistake.


^DISCLAIMER: THIS IS SARCASM

~CfA~

I was thinking of that too.
They have to admit they are simply insane with the self modded topic crap.
I don't mean lately either but for YEARS ..i posted some crazy examples of this before.

stoat and i agree on something ? WTF ? ahahhaha

2 things though guys.. fat people are evil !
and.. Risto / reptiela.. It's his coin !

If you dig beneath the surface and see his involvement since day one years ago
you would see it's his coin.. he funded it / drove it.. kept it afloat etc.
And this is not a good thing either..
For example he created some topic here before talking about wealth or something.
And i lambasted him and made him look like a pitiful little fool..
for being a shallow money grubbing greedy insecure douche.

Posting on Bitcointalk you are a millionaire with a Bentley and a Castle does not impress me.
I told him his bragging about his wealth amounts to fuck all and that
when he is dead & gone will anyone remember him ?
Clearly his priorities were / are terribly out of whack.. and this speaks LOUDLY about his Monero involvement.
He is a spoiled brat too when i commented that to him he got pissy and locked the topic ahahhaha
then recreated a whole new topic making sure the 2nd one was self-modded (for obvious reasons)
So i laughed at him for being a baby and double posting on purpose then mod's deleted it on him  ;D

Risto is a spoiled cocky little brat who thinks his "rich" ass is above the rules here and he is better than us all.
He is a fucking Noob lunatic who was in the loony bin.
His first coin was Monero ..so it's the best of course.
He says.. after spending he said in 2014 882 BTC on them.
Gods knows how much he has spent by now.

The guy is a clown and the so called "dev's" are milking his stupidity like a cash cow.
These "Dev's" are more than happy to take the mentally ill millionaires money.
They are preying on this guy who's first coin was Monero and who does not know any better.
The dregs that swirl around Monero always spamming about it here are preying on the delusional rich guy.
They know the history of this stuff and were doing the Altcoin thing years before Risto came along with a fat wad of cash.

I could go on and on and FUCKING on about the negative aspects of Monero.
How about the MEW topic where Risto said he created a forum game here supposedly for adoption reasons.
He called it a powerful adoption asset when defending why he took the Monero donated money
..with out asking anyone.. from the treasurer who they say ALSO is not a part of the team.
Who David then mentioned before his Monero Marketing company even though they said it never existed for years.
while explaining his French fraud stuff and his hiding with MEW Treasury funds.
Then said he was not hiding then said he was LOL

..chronic liars.

Jesus fucking christ i can't keep up with these scammy fuckheads and their stunts & shenanigans.
I also reported the "Retro virtual city" forum game topic here in ALT main and MOD's denied my report.
(the day Risto started it)
His only intention when he posted it was to spam on about Monero here with it and i KNEW IT !
And he proved my point when he admitted it was a "powerful adoption asset"
AKA: Spamming ..and paid for buy the Monero donators with MEW !
THEN he admitted to me personally on Polo way back he had made thousands of dollars on his previous forum game topic here.
And holy fuck how has mod's put up with their shit here all this time ?
That speculation topic is usually just keyword bumping.. top of page one 24/7

I feel sorry for people who get suckered into their lies & bullshit.
Who the fuck makes a coin called Bytecoin when one already existed ? HAHHAHAA
Then they played the community take over coin routine ROFL
Then they have the Cryptonote coin cloning platform ties ahhah
Then the original dev left and never showed his face ever again just as the take over went down years ago.
In other words the dev changed names.......  ::)

They said they were leaving a couple years ago when this place got mad about their spamming.
One guy posted a screen cap of all their topics bumped onto page one.. none of them were mine or i commented on last.
OTHER PEOPLE raged on them and there was a HUGE backlash against them and their spamming antics.
So the same mouthy Monero idiots we see NOW back then 2 years ago got mad in response
bad mouthed this place hard and said they were leaving because Bitcointalk is garbage etc.
They never did.. instead they simply waited for the heat to die down then went right back to spamming.
They say ohh we're leaving then take donated money with out permission earmarked for adoption to start a spamming forum game topic here and a Monero marketing company then deny all of it then get caught saying it themselves !
Then when i quote them they leave me a negative rating and say i lied when all i did was QUOTE THEM !

Not only do i think Anon coins are a bad idea and are going to be a tough thing to make and keep working securely
but i think the slop of shit Monero has going tech wise is a waste of time.
I also think they long ago simply wanted a gimmick for a "me too" coin.. so they picked "Anon".

Years later it's clear to me these clowns would drive ANY coin into the dirt with their involvement.
The bigger problem with Monero is not so much the coin but the people behind it.. they fucked up the coin.
And any hope of it going anywhere ever.. and what do they do ?
Look on the MEW topic and see Risto calling their supporters "Trolls"  :D
And apparently every word i said is one big pile of lies and i am nothing but a Troll FUD'ing.
THAT is who we are dealing with here guys..

EDIT:
Oh and by the way just how much in FIAT $$$ did Risto spend on "starting" Retro Virtual City
the forum game here for *adoption*.. what many thousands of dollars ?
How will the donators feel that their donated money went to a guy clicking submit on topic here ?
Anyone wants to pay me a shitload of money for making a forum topic ?
I will call it what ever you want LOL  ;)

SPOT ON Spoetnik! Very good analysis of the situation.

~CfA~

Sputnik going in heavy with par after par. I mean i like to keep it short and sweet but that was a masterful display of flaming. Monero is down for a ten count. 4..3..2...

haha. ok i got it  :-*

i do agree with you OP. Since monero flaws were published the coin is slowly bleeding.

what is "monero"?  ???

Haha well played, well played.

and correct :)

lolol Moniro is a good coin man, it has real features and a very good wallet. Also you're wrong it's not a Bytecoin clone, Bytecoin is a scam. It's a Bytecoin fork. That's a HUGE difference.

They have a good lead developer. He spends all of his time coding and never posts here all day and never attacks other people all the time. I really like what they're doing!

what is monero

Dead, like dodo

what the fuck did I just watch.
i want my lifetime back >:(

Dead, like dodo

Wow.  That guy is drunk.  Monero: money for degenerate Mexicans who drink tequila straight from the bottle.

He's not drunk, he's trying to trick himself into believing that Monero will be valuable in the future. He's trying to sell something, obviously:


I understand. He's been waiting for a very long time.

Lol that's a funny video. He's the handsome Monero mascot :) I'll be watching some more of his vids.

The consensus seems to be that Monero is indeed a valuable, important and popular wannabe cryptocurrency.

Of course, there is no censorship involved here, just like there is no censorship involved in the friendly Monero topics.

I have to say that, even if I'm not anti-Monero, they are pretty aggressive toward the other crypto-currencies, even if they're not being attacked by them before.

Hahahhaha Monero im new to but is apparently just joke scum of fackheads who clone Bytecoin.
holding them dirty bagz.
who wanna censor everything. theyre also consummate hypocrites. i move along nothing to see there just old undigested blurb.

Monero? 凸(｀0´)凸

I was delusional for two years. Situation about Monero is now clear to me. Few ninja miners and mediocre programmers find something good enough to fool me. Both fluffypony and Smooth was in mining business desperately trying to find new job for their equipment. I don't have anything against that, but screaming scam on others was too much. Beside that they should sponsor at least decent GUI walet :-))).   Fluffypoiny rigs: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470944.0 and Smooth recent proof of realy good ninja mining skills: https://steemit.com/@smooth/transfers

I found another interesting link maybe other already know that americanpegasus is Smooth.

https://steemit.com/@americanpegasus/transfers

Add Risto to this and you have full (beautiful) picture. Yes Monero is DEAD, at least for me.

OMG ---- good catch, gaba. Thanks for posting.

those "Morone" bagholders are just sitting ducks of this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1473091.0

12 time bombs in their codebase..cheers :D :D

it dead but still they preach every day to win more poor soul for the sect

real crap

Its dead but since this thread was posted, it hit a new all time high in market cap.  And its reddit hit a new all time high in activity.

And it's about to get it's own private beta on stack exchange, a distinction only shared with Bitcoin and ethereum amongst other cryptos. Maybe he means it's dead like Bitcoin has been pronounced dead so many times :P

Well done, Does a lot of people in here have a problem with monero? There is a people contra with monero and otherwise.
Let's see what happen with monero for next time does that's coin is good or bad, and only the time can say about this.

Mine.. and yes.

And i also provided some rational technical reasons behind declaring it "dead".

I also concur with the others..
These Monero guys do in fact account hop around here a lot !
I don't have much proof on it but i can see the signs..

As i have said for 2 years they blew it..
The have ruined any trust they had and lost the benefit of the doubt long ago.
All the guys involved or connected to it are dishonest.
And that is all that matters to me.. HONESTY !

Monero is a fraud.
It has been engineered carefully with intense manipulative & deceitful behavior.
If that bothers you then avoid it.. if you don't care ? Then nom nom nom cheap coins

Me ?
I have some integrity & dignity.
And skills at trading.. i don't feel compelled to resort to decetful tactics to profit
or by supporting blatantly scammy coins for a buck $ (you CAN make money legit, it is possible guys)

Indeed being called dead should be considered a compliment!

GUI and RingCT coming soon.... not bad for a dead coin

You mean functions other coins have a long time already?
Face it, Monero never developed anything on their own and even with copying they are really, really, really slow.


But Monero on GOX soon!

sigh,

adaptive blocksize with tail emission...

lol, ok now I see, you're an SDC-guy... Well, if you wanna sit at that table, you're gonna have to eat what's being served... how's that superb broken SDC-anonimity working for you: https://shnoe.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/de-anonymizing-shadowcash-and-oz-coin/

You are right, I have to correct myself.

An SDC guy? I am quite new to altcoins, don't have any loyality to any yet... I just like SDC's great GUI as I just posted in the other thread you are referring to.

Also, didn't Monero had the same bug?

In testnet, that's why peer-review is so important, which SDC lacks... but I don't want to start XMR vs. SDC here, I just found your claim that monero didn't develop anything new ridiculous...
a coin without a GUI doesn't get 100mil-marketcap out of nothing you know... do some research before posting nonsense, especially when you want to be taken seriously regarding other topics (spectre being a scam)

best regards

haha, last time I have checked it was not so dead, why are you saying that ?

don't try to find a good argument in these  " 'x' coin is officially DEAD" threads.
Just a bunch of holders of another coin trying to draw attention, specially when the thread is about dash or monero...

I didn't want to FUD, it was what was said on several channels but I - my mistake - did not check it.
Maybe it was meant that monero did not develop some of the privacy stuff monero is associated with?

Anyways no harm intended, just trying to separate scams from real projects, and those into those with good marketing and those with real development potential.

no problem, and indeed, xmr was forked from bytecoin and based on entirely different protocol than bitcoin (cryptonote)... The fact that it's not a bitcoin-fork (like the absolute majority of all crypto's) means everything has to be built from scratch, also the codebase xmr inherited from bytecoin was really messy etc, that's why development seems slow... but lots of developments already happened since launch in april 2014... just not the really visible kind (like a bling bling GUI, which actually is almost ready now)...

xmr had a fair launch, no ico, no mining rewards going to devs etc...
xmr doesn't have a marketing team
don't buy xmr  ;)

edit, if you do want to learn more about xmr to see if it's a scam or not, if it has development potential or not:
short introduction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZi9xx6aiuY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEVm1dMn5Ks  (great presentation, ideological and technical)
http://weuse.cash/
https://moneroeric.com/blog/
http://monero.stackexchange.com/  (btw: xmr is only the third crypto to have its own stackexchange (btc en eth were first), this shows it has a strong and active community), by all means ask questions there if you want...

best regards,

Well, your arguments do not really stack up.

Bytecoin which Monero was forked from has 100% refactored code - and managed to release gui as well as many of the 'under the hood' changes that Monero fan boys claim is taking place with their code to excuse the absence of visible ones.

Refactored node
RocksDB Database
New API
Blocksize increase
Fusion Transactions
On-blockchain aliases

many, many more

Then, when;

a:)They can't provide an argument or evidence to support their case
b:) They can't delete said arguments by deleting them from their 'scientology' style threads

They resort to nasty tactics like spamming peoples trust (proof? Take a look at mine - no bad trading just Monero trust spamming) or attacking people in random threads that have nothing to do with Monero.

They kept to their own moderated thought-police threads, to a large extent, after the great Spamero Backlash but this recent pump seems to have emboldened them again.

Disclaimer - I don't own any cryptonote currency

not dead but with zcash/zclassic and zcoin, is seriously overshadowed, because those coin offer better anonymity so monero is a bit pointless now, why i should it on the dark web instead of zcash, which has also a better name?

yeah well, here are some numbers for you: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/5ep3mc/what_i_am_grateful_for/
if too laze to click I'll quote: "Monero has had 7,440 commits made by 167 contributors representing 387,411 lines of code or an estimated 102 person years of effort"

but that's probably all fake off course...

I guess you now know what remains of your credibility

best regards...

because monero's anonimity-features actually work, because monero has protocol-level-privacy (not optional privacy like zcash), because monero didn't use a trusted setup, because with monero there are no mining rewards going to the devs, because anonymous transactions in xmr don't require 8 Gib RAM and still take 2 minutes, because xmr isn't a corporate coin but actually a truly grassroots open source project with a large and active community, because xmr-cryptography is thoroughly tested and peerreviewed (zcash-crypto is not), because monero has actual usability, ...need I go on...

don't get me wrong, zcash technology is very interesting, but the way it is conceived now is a big no no, maybe in 10 years...

best regards

Lame FUD attempt. Get a life.

How would you know Noob ?

And why is it King Risto has bought about a thousand BTC worth of Monero since i lasted counted ?

Invest in Risto Coin all you want kidiots LOL

..just be warned if he pulls the plug you are all seriously fucked.
And he might his is mentally ill he admitted.
See the pictures of silver tea pots on his head for proof LOL

What the fuck was that about credibility "Senior" member nobody .. no one has ever heard of ?
I love how you snotty little shits keep making new accounts to have a jab at people.
Grow a pair you little cowards.

I don't take lip from noob puppet accounts.. so STFU.

PS:
Morono is dead.

Morono might be dead but Monero will be here as long as there is dark market and it is relevant to ensure privacy as long as the feds finds a way to crack down that market  :D i do like the price movements if you are trading you could make good amount of money with it

@eaLiTy. The news that the darknet market is accepting Monero is taken out of context and it was really overhyped. The fact is only merchants in Alphabay is accepting Monero and it is not even gaining some traction because that acceptance is dwindling. The merchants still prefer bitcoins and are going back to it. Also I do not think drug addicts know that Monero exists. ;D

I agree with this, those news just making the hype up which monero is being started to be used on the darknet but not on general because its being used only on alphabay but still people would really think that this is the beggining of the development or adoption of monero just like what happen to bitcoin at the first place but  same as you said most people there will surely go back to bitcoin.

I know bitcoin still have the big hype.  It was a rumours, even I haven't heard about the reliable source was saying about that, which mean there wasn't the definite data for that.
 :D

When the Marshall's are auctioning off Morono coins they will be looking for all you associated with it and they will be making sure to stop by places like Poloniex where you gave your picture ID.  :D

And you guys summed it up nicely with the big Dark Market hype let down..
That is all it ever had going for it.
There is no other game plan.. if that failed then call it a day guys.

AKA: Dead shitcoin with lame pointless stupid gimmick tacked on.

Well, looking at your track record of predicting things about XMR I guess it must be very alive and kicking, on 2 january 2016 you posted this:


(wasn't hard to find by the way, you write an eulogy for xmr about every 2 weeks...)

now let's look at the chart:

https://www.tradingview.com/x/etn4mTJH/

Poor Sputz, missed a 1000% price increase in BTC and 1500% price increase in King $$$

Is that why you're so angry all the time?

Lulz, same shit different day, post some evidence of your claims (dwindling acceptance) please... Everyone in their right minds would use XMR for said transactions, especially with the btc-blocks being spammed and fees rising, with chain-analysis, with KYC, ...

ah well, next year you might miss another 1000% runup in xmr and still be talking about king bitcoin...

best regards

Once i was started working with the minergate i was unaware that this can be good for me. I was mining bytcoin there but that was not much worthy then i started mining Monero and this is good for me.

in regard to rewards going to dev, you can choose zclassic, which has no this issue and the community is small because is still new, monero has been here since 2 years already if not wrong, also there is zcoin, which has a better form of anonimity than zcash

@obit33 (Noob / Senior account)

I stand behind my claims.

I stated why.. as a matter of fact i did 3 comments earlier.
Not like i have not explained why in detail countless times..

And i am jealous and angry ?

LOL

I don't get jealous over shitcoin profits nor i do i classify a coin as successful based on Poloniex market prices.
Apparently you do NOOB and that shows me who the real idiots are here is.

Shit coin prices have little meaning.

I am sure there is people out there hoarding PayCoin's or Bitcoinbuilder "GOX-BTC"
So what's your point smart ass ?

Oh wait i know you just told me.. Look at Ma ROI'z !!!!! I am so richez !!11 HODL FORVERZ !!1111

Dumb fucking douche's LOL

I ain't angry i am laughing at you stupid fucking twats.  :D

..go buy moar cheap coins fer teh SilkRoadz Pedo guns & crack markets idiots.. nom nom nom

Just don't forget to give Poloniex your Picture ID first dumb fucks ROFL

Monero still has a chance to shine if Bitcoin fails to deliver increased privacy. Like it or not, there will always be people in dark markets buying questionable shit... so there's a big market. As far as exchanges goes.. exchanges like Shapeshift under a VPN should provide sufficient privacy to exchange BTC for XMR.

In any case, not that I think XMR will be able to challenge a supercharged Bitcoin once we have sidechains, mimblewimble, confidential transactions and all of those.

Even in the extremely unlikely scenario that Bitcoin gets functional privacy, it would still be optional, and thus inferior to Monero. Transparent transactions degrade the privacy of those using private transactions. Also, good luck getting Chinese miners to support an anonymous sidechain.

I'm reading a lot of post about monero being a dead coin but upon checking on coinmarketcap,they are still alive and volume is still high, they are in the top 5 ahead of those so called innovative crypto currency,it's unfortunate that cryptonote are not tradeable on Yobit where I am an active trader.

There will always be a small handful getting arrested for it yeah..

I seen recent arrests from some brat who was selling Fentanyl.
He was busted and i expect many more to come.. various govts are cracking the whip.
My country is having an epidemic of deaths from that shit and a lot of it is coming from DM's.

Anyone having any part of that scummy underground system will be nailed hard !

Enjoy your Morono coins.. don't forget to hand over your picture ID to Poloniex fuckers LOL

By the way i was the one guy who predicted VPN's would be pwned hard.. they were.
There is a slew of ways you can compromise them.
Such as showing up with a warrant to seize the machines then letting them run with logging enabled for 2 years.

I predicted it by myself for a decade on Torrentfreak.. simply to warn people of a false sense of security.
I was just like here mouthed off 100% by the whole entire crowd.. claiming i was wrong ..endlessly.

I was right as always dumb fucking douche bags.
And the endless stream of News reports is my proof.

My old PC game cracking group / hacker buddy of mine was popped by the FBI.
What do you cocky ass dipshits know about security ?
Me i am a cracker.. with a life time of common sense on the web.

But hey don't take my word for it..
Listen to dipshit bag-holders trying talk up their fucking scammy ass little "ANON" coins on ScamCoinTalk.org

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT KIDIOTS  :D

  Where do you see that?

Monero wild hyped capitalization of the company, its founder himself is not confident talking about it, I think it is a bubble

Can you tell me what other coins are "dead". So I can buy them.  On May 19 XMR  was .0029 now it's .0106

$100 / XMR yesterday... The only cryptocurrency you can buy on major exchanges with "privacy by default"... Hmmm...

Surprised to see this now.
Now we can realise how predictions goes wrong

Monero dead? ;D ;D ;D

Here is Theymos's way of assessing coins and their real value, not monetary because in the market monero seems to be doing just fine. This might be of help to you, Monero is given a decent assessment grade https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2095328.0

absolutely not! i wish all the coins would be as dead as Monero))

I agree with this, monero will sooner be dead. it will be worth nothing because of their horrible community, they are full of arrogance in their coin look what happened now they will be soon be labeled as shit coin. Thus is better to pull out all your assets in monero to be sure.

Monero will not be dead, there will be a lot of dead coins in the future for sure but the possibility for monero to be one of the dead coins is zero.

I cant stand XMR but where do you even come up with stuff like this, its funny. I mean if you think its dead pm me ill take your dead XMR no questions asked. So since its so dead no one here should have an issue sending me a pm and ill give you my XMR addy thanbks have a dead day lol

Dear moron, we -monero bagholders- have been waiting 5 years for your update on the 0.0125$ deadcoin so we can start to dig the grave. Maybe in another 5 years?