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Title: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: Kakmakr on May 23, 2016, 09:06:36 AM
I recently tested out a new online game, and asked if Bitcoin could be added as a payment option. My post were deleted and I was banned from posting, because according to them, I spammed. This was my first and only post on their forum.

"This is an automatic message sent by the Forum Administration to inform you that you have been banned from using the forum for spam until 20 May, 2017, 8:04 AM UTC. For further information please contact the forum administrator/moderator." < 1 Year Ban > For posting about Bitcoin.

I searched their forum for the term, "Bitcoin" and found this feedback from someone else, asking the same question.

http://plarium.com/forum/en/total-domination/suggestions-and-feedback/topics/suggestions-and-feedback-4/

I quote : "As for your suggestions: 1) We are currently not considering the idea of integration with Bitcoin system, and we accept only legal payment methods, which are regulated by law."

Someone from BitPay or Coinbase should approach these people and explain to them that Bitcoin are regulated in most countries and have been accepted as a legal payment for years now.

Edit : Plarium is an international game development company specializing in mobile and browser games. Our studios are located in the USA, the UK, Israel, Ukraine, and Russia, and consist of over 1,000 employees. These talented professionals create games that are played by more than 250 million users across 150 countries.



Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: Pursuer on May 23, 2016, 09:21:33 AM
lol, that is a stupid way of reacting! banning someone who says bitcoin :)

you should direct them to steam and tell them to look at their payment options which includes bitcoin, I have never heard of the link above but everybody has heard about steam.
they are not better than steam so there is no reason to shy away from bitcoin.

....Bitcoin are regulated in most countries ...

is it really regulated in most countries? do you know which countries are these?


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: eyeknock on May 23, 2016, 09:29:24 AM
why should someone from BitPay or Coinbase care about it?, if this platform dont accept bitcoin yet is "his problem".

btw someone who manage a company "for gamers" should be up to date about all those type of payments, dont accept bitcoin is like dont accept money, they are not very intelligent...


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: rancidgash on May 23, 2016, 09:29:41 AM
is it really regulated in most countries? do you know which countries are these?

My guess is that for sure all countries from Coinbase list (+ few more):

https://www.coinbase.com/global

Interesting is that Germany is not supported by Coinbase..  ::)


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: Boosterious on May 23, 2016, 10:00:40 AM
I recently tested out a new online game, and asked if Bitcoin could be added as a payment option. My post were deleted and I was banned from posting, because according to them, I spammed. This was my first and only post on their forum.

"This is an automatic message sent by the Forum Administration to inform you that you have been banned from using the forum for spam until 20 May, 2017, 8:04 AM UTC. For further information please contact the forum administrator/moderator."

I searched their forum for the term, "Bitcoin" and found this feedback from someone else, asking the same question.

http://plarium.com/forum/en/total-domination/suggestions-and-feedback/topics/suggestions-and-feedback-4/

I quote : "As for your suggestions: 1) We are currently not considering the idea of integration with Bitcoin system, and we accept only legal payment methods, which are regulated by law."

Someone from BitPay or Coinbase should approach these people and explain to them that Bitcoin are regulated in most countries and have been accepted as a legal payment for years now.


this is still become a majr problem for bitcoin,not only game platform,so many other companies also think same thing about bitcoin "they only want accept legal paymant and regulated by law" but this is should be become more strength for bitcoin expert to make more country regulate bitcoin,so company will pleasure accept bitcoin.


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: Pursuer on May 23, 2016, 10:20:38 AM
is it really regulated in most countries? do you know which countries are these?

My guess is that for sure all countries from Coinbase list (+ few more):

https://www.coinbase.com/global

Interesting is that Germany is not supported by Coinbase..  ::)

I doubt if this list has anything to do with the regulation of bitcoin in those countries.
coinbase is not the representative of bitcoin it is just another service which is based on US laws (located in San Francisco California) so that might be the reason for such a list and they just offer service to places they see fit.


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: Bitcoinpro on May 23, 2016, 10:25:06 AM
sounds like a great way for them to accept instant payments from all over the world


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: pawel7777 on May 23, 2016, 12:56:13 PM
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I doubt if this list has anything to do with the regulation of bitcoin in those countries.
coinbase is not the representative of bitcoin it is just another service which is based on US laws (located in San Francisco California) so that might be the reason for such a list and they just offer service to places they see fit.

They do have at least 1 EU registered subsidiary: Coinbase UK Ltd (reg No: 09083955), and by providing services in foreign countries, they're obliged to follow applicable laws (not just US law).


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: yayayo on May 23, 2016, 01:44:40 PM
It's a bit surprising having a gaming platform operator reacting like this. I was under the impression, that people from this business sector would live a little closer to the frontier of innovation...

Apparently misinformation and threats from government and their mainstream media puppets had some effect. Hopefully these guys will have a chance to learn the truth from a neutral and patient source in the near future, because it might soon become a tangible competitive advantage in the gaming business to accept cryptocurrencies.

However the story is also a potential reminder not to be too "positively aggressive" when talking about Bitcoin, because it might have the opposite effect on those already intoxicated by propaganda.

ya.ya.yo!


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: Red-Apple on May 23, 2016, 01:48:28 PM
maybe the country that this gaming platform is located at doesn't have bitcoin friendly laws, it can be one of those asian/middle east countries that don't really like bitcoin.


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: Kprawn on May 23, 2016, 04:31:05 PM
why should someone from BitPay or Coinbase care about it?, if this platform dont accept bitcoin yet is "his problem".

btw someone who manage a company "for gamers" should be up to date about all those type of payments, dont accept bitcoin is like dont accept money, they are not very intelligent...

Coinbase and Bitpay should care, because it's another platform where millions of online gaming players will be paying extra fees to them to process their transactions and also fees for other services. If

one large gaming platform like this accepts Bitcoin, the rest will follow. This game are ideally suited for Bitcoin, because they sell in-game resources as bundled packages to progress through the game

quicker. I see they have loads of other payment options listed, so I am acctually surprised by this response. I think they do not understand the way payment works... They do not have to deal with

Bitcoin, because the payment processor convert all Bitcoins for them back to fiat... I agree with you... these guys needs education.  ::)


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: MingLee on May 23, 2016, 04:49:00 PM
Well I wouldn't say Plarium is a large gaming platform, but they are somewhat sizeable, so I'll give them that.

As for them banning you about asking about Bitcoin, I'll admit that seems kind of strange, and I'm confused as to why the thought that would be their best choice and course of action. I guess if it was in their ToS it should seem like something you'd be expected to know, but that doesn't warrant a ban in my opinion.


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: Cuidler on May 23, 2016, 04:58:48 PM
one large gaming platform like this accepts Bitcoin, the rest will follow. This game are ideally suited for Bitcoin, because they sell in-game resources as bundled packages to progress through the game

The small payments required for these online games can eat up a lot credit card/SMS fees. I guess not enought demand from users, but Plarium loosing the most as they must really pay high percentage of incomming credit card and SMS income in form of fees. Less profit for them, but I dont think they would get many Bitcoin payments unless they give their users additional incentive to pay with Bitcoin - but even with discounts when paying with Bitcoin, it would still be win situation for both, users and Plarium.


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: bittrojan on May 23, 2016, 05:10:05 PM
Dont worry about this,i am sure in short time they will relize that bitcoin not to be regulated or legality for being good payment method,if they know steam accept bitcoin,they will considering to accept bitcoin too.


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: mobnepal on May 23, 2016, 06:59:42 PM
I think they underestimate bitcoin with other payments method which rise everyday or they are quite noob who don't like to search about bitcoin word. But i am sure they will knock the door of bitpay or coinbase to accept bitcoin after few months or year.


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: upsidedown75 on May 23, 2016, 08:19:31 PM
I wouldn't totally blame them because they do own the game and they do have the right to not accept bitcoin as a form of payment.
The way they reacted however is kinda unprofessional.


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: Yipdard on May 23, 2016, 08:23:19 PM
Yes, it's true.


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: Kakmakr on May 24, 2016, 05:26:08 AM
I wouldn't totally blame them because they do own the game and they do have the right to not accept bitcoin as a form of payment.
The way they reacted however is kinda unprofessional.

I think, we should all petition this service to accept Bitcoin as a payment method and use Steam as an example, to show them that Bitcoin is seen as a legal tender for goods and services. If enough people ask for this option, they might just reconsider their aggressive approach to Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: npredtorch on May 24, 2016, 06:00:15 AM
Looks like they don't want to increase their sales? Bitcoin enthusiasts will be gladly happy if they will accept bitcoin which will result to more players, and more ingame purchases transactions. Every side is good for them, so i bet that they have a valid and strict reason thats why they don't accept it.


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: DARKCHANGE on May 24, 2016, 06:22:13 AM
is it really regulated in most countries? do you know which countries are these?

My guess is that for sure all countries from Coinbase list (+ few more):

https://www.coinbase.com/global

Interesting is that Germany is not supported by Coinbase..  ::)
This is unfortunately reality as BaFin, the supervising authority in Germany for financial operations, requires Bitcoinexchanges and businesses trading this currency to obtain an expensive banking license.

As always, here is everything dead-regulated.


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: Amph on May 24, 2016, 07:10:42 AM
it's not really important, the very large gaming platform already adopted bitcoin and it is called steam, all other platform are obsolete now that steam accept bitcoin

i guess that gog will follow soon


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: JeffBrad12 on May 24, 2016, 07:34:20 AM
it's not really important, the very large gaming platform already adopted bitcoin and it is called steam, all other platform are obsolete now that steam accept bitcoin

i guess that gog will follow soon
When steam accept bitcoin payment?

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/22/steam-reportedly-going-to-accept-bitcoin

It's need more confirmation from steam, if you heard a new news you need to check again about that's news it's true or false. Many gaming platform is still fixated with government regulations related to manner of payment because they do not want to get caught with illegal activities.


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: quentincole32 on May 24, 2016, 09:14:02 AM
it's not really important, the very large gaming platform already adopted bitcoin and it is called steam, all other platform are obsolete now that steam accept bitcoin

i guess that gog will follow soon
When steam accept bitcoin payment?

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/22/steam-reportedly-going-to-accept-bitcoin

It's need more confirmation from steam, if you heard a new news you need to check again about that's news it's true or false. Many gaming platform is still fixated with government regulations related to manner of payment because they do not want to get caught with illegal activities.
yes i'm agree,other gaming platform will follow steam soon,for accepting bitcoin. i think its has been official that steam acccept bitcoin,we not see stea post in this forum,but people here already purchase game from steam with bitcoin payment,and i several time seen that thread about someone buy that game.


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: Jeremycoin on May 24, 2016, 09:22:35 AM
They are just afraid of this revolutionary technology, there's no doubt actually because Bitcoin is so much powerful. We have to change how those peoples think about Bitcoin, I feel quite sad about this tho.


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: Bitcoinpro on May 24, 2016, 12:30:07 PM
They are just afraid of this revolutionary technology, there's no doubt actually because Bitcoin is so much powerful. We have to change how those peoples think about Bitcoin, I feel quite sad about this tho.

me 3


Title: Re: Large gaming platform does not allow Bitcoin payment - Not regulated by law
Post by: Kakmakr on May 25, 2016, 06:39:51 AM
They have a international development team from different countries, Israel / Ukraine / USA - Michigan / Russia and this makes things a bit more complex. I know Russia have been making waves lately with the banning of Bitcoin, but it's not official and they have been kicking the ball around with this issue.

If only one of these countries have a ban in place, all other countries involved with the development will automatically be against this move to adopt Bitcoin. It is a pity, because their games have huge potential to add Bitcoin payments. The saving in fees for the users, will make it worth it for these people to shift from other payment options.