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Title: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 02, 2013, 10:24:42 PM
I'm thoroughly confused and a little worried, as I appear to have stuffed up somewhere along the line.

 After a bit of a gambling session on SatoshiDice I sent 50 BTC to a wallet I created @ blockchain.info then tried to send them back to my Bitcoin-qt client. 36 or so hours later they still showed up as unconfirmed. I did some reading here and decided to take what one poster called the 'lazy man's approach' and import my bitcoin-qt wallet into a new one at blockchain.info. But when I did that my balance in the new wallet was only .0000001 BTC!

Here's my bitcoin-qt wallet:
 https://i.imgur.com/VnDn4RD.jpg

and here's the new wallet:
https://i.imgur.com/VzSMRNs.jpg


Can someone please let me know what's going on? I'm completely lost...


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: behindtext on March 02, 2013, 10:40:23 PM
I'm thoroughly confused and a little worried, as I appear to have stuffed up somewhere along the line.

 After a bit of a gambling session on SatoshiDice I sent 50 BTC to a wallet I created @ blockchain.info then tried to send them back to my Bitcoin-qt client. 36 or so hours later they still showed up as unconfirmed. I did some reading here and decided to take what one poster called the 'lazy man's approach' and import my bitcoin-qt wallet into a new one at blockchain.info. But when I did that my balance in the new wallet was only .0000001 BTC!

Here's my bitcoin-qt wallet:
 https://i.imgur.com/VnDn4RD.jpg

and here's the new wallet:
https://i.imgur.com/VzSMRNs.jpg


Can someone please let me know what's going on? I'm completely lost...

i'd panic


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: yogi on March 02, 2013, 10:44:32 PM
What is the address you sent the coins to?


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 02, 2013, 10:52:23 PM
What is the address you sent the coins to?

 Sent to 1CGXqKGNRftuoivVqyz7HKkmgSaQqgYwc7


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: yogi on March 02, 2013, 11:00:06 PM
According to http://blockchain.info/address/1CGXqKGNRftuoivVqyz7HKkmgSaQqgYwc7 (http://blockchain.info/address/1CGXqKGNRftuoivVqyz7HKkmgSaQqgYwc7) no bitcoins have been sent to that address.

Check your blockchain wallet and look at your history to check that you sent coins to that address.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 02, 2013, 11:10:03 PM
According to http://blockchain.info/address/1CGXqKGNRftuoivVqyz7HKkmgSaQqgYwc7 (http://blockchain.info/address/1CGXqKGNRftuoivVqyz7HKkmgSaQqgYwc7) no bitcoins have been sent to that address.

Check your blockchain wallet and look at your history to check that you sent coins to that address.

Thats part of my confusion..it doesn't show up in that wallet

here's the transaction from my qt client: https://i.imgur.com/vEu5BF9.jpg

I'm getting more and more confused, willing to pay someone trusted here to help me recover these..


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: yogi on March 02, 2013, 11:13:58 PM
What was the address you sent the bitcoins from, when sending to blockchain wallet?


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 02, 2013, 11:20:13 PM
What was the address you sent the bitcoins from, when sending to blockchain wallet?

I have three addresses in my qt client, but I'm pretty sure it was from this one - 1HswYkBpPKdwfjh1CNosZEByTm5gdKgWK5.

The other two are 1Ku3K296rDi4CTXTiacC8kAp8q5tkb28NM & 1KbUKTJsm4zA6YKUH5SXGDxKVCpJEhfkew

thanks for helping BTW..


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: Anon136 on March 02, 2013, 11:22:02 PM
So long as you have the private keys to all 3 addresses in question than there should be nothing to worry about (unless you sent coins to an incorrect address accidentally)

Import all 3 private keys into blockchain and see if any of them have btc on them imo.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: Rampion on March 02, 2013, 11:22:42 PM
You lost all your bitcoins gambling, my friend.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 02, 2013, 11:26:23 PM
So long as you have the private keys to all 3 addresses in question than there should be nothing to worry about (unless you sent coins to an incorrect address accidentally)

Import all 3 private keys into blockchain and see if any of them have btc on them imo.

More info please..be gentle, I have no idea what the private keys are or how to import them.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: BurtW on March 02, 2013, 11:33:55 PM

here's the transaction from my qt client: https://i.imgur.com/vEu5BF9.jpg


This screen shot shows a transaction from January ?

The address that coins were sent to has never been used ?

The transaction does not appear in the block chain ?

Please cut and past the transaction number here just in case I did not type it in correctly (I had to read it from the picture and type it in - very error prone).

Let's search for that transaction.  Why is the date 1/3/2013?  Are you just now noticing that a transaction you initiated that long ago has not gone through?

Also do you know what address the BTC came from?  You may not know this.  If we have the correct transaction number we should be able to see it.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 02, 2013, 11:34:48 PM
50BTC was never received at the address 1HswYkBpPKdwfjh1CNosZEByTm5gdKgWK5

http://blockchain.info/address/1HswYkBpPKdwfjh1CNosZEByTm5gdKgWK5

Those two transactions that show on bitcoin-qt were never broadcasted to the network.

K. So what happened to my bitcoins, and more importantly, how do I get them back?


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: Anon136 on March 02, 2013, 11:36:45 PM
So long as you have the private keys to all 3 addresses in question than there should be nothing to worry about (unless you sent coins to an incorrect address accidentally)

Import all 3 private keys into blockchain and see if any of them have btc on them imo.

More info please..be gentle, I have no idea what the private keys are or how to import them.

Sure not a problem! private keys are the fundamental unit that "stores" bitcoin. (yes i know that isnt technically true but its easier to visualize this way) Those wallet files are just database files that contain a series of private keys. Every address has a unique corresponding private key, you talked about 3 different addresses in your explanation. Each one of these addresses has a private key. But lets just start with the addresses. can you list all 3 of the addresses that you talked about here a) the one that you sent from initially b) the one that you sent to the first time c) the one that you attempted to send coins to that didnt confirm

We can look up all 3 of these addresses on blockchain.info, if the coins are on one of these addresses than you just have to find the private key. If they are not on any of these addresses than you are almost certainly boned (unless you accidentally sent the coins to an incorrect address that you happen to also own)


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: yogi on March 02, 2013, 11:37:10 PM
I have three addresses in my qt client, but I'm pretty sure it was from this one - 1HswYkBpPKdwfjh1CNosZEByTm5gdKgWK5.

The other two are 1Ku3K296rDi4CTXTiacC8kAp8q5tkb28NM & 1KbUKTJsm4zA6YKUH5SXGDxKVCpJEhfkew

By the way, the total value of the above addresses is around 50btc, is this your missing coins?

thanks for helping BTW..

No problem  :)


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: Rampion on March 02, 2013, 11:39:28 PM
I have three addresses in my qt client, but I'm pretty sure it was from this one - 1HswYkBpPKdwfjh1CNosZEByTm5gdKgWK5.

The other two are 1Ku3K296rDi4CTXTiacC8kAp8q5tkb28NM & 1KbUKTJsm4zA6YKUH5SXGDxKVCpJEhfkew

By the way, the total value of the above addresses is around 50btc, is this your missing coins?

thanks for helping BTW..

No problem  :)

All the coins in those addresses where lost to Satoshi-dice. And that happened last year.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 02, 2013, 11:40:10 PM

here's the transaction from my qt client: https://i.imgur.com/vEu5BF9.jpg


This screen shot shows a transaction from January ?
Why is the date 1/3/2013?  .

I'm in Australia, 1/3/2013 means 1st March this side of the pond.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 02, 2013, 11:41:43 PM

By the way, the total value of the above addresses is around 50btc, is this your missing coins?

I guess, but why are they showing up as unconfirmed in my qt client, and how do I fix that?


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 02, 2013, 11:42:29 PM

All the coins in those addresses where lost to Satoshi-dice. And that happened last year.

No they weren't. Please, I'd rather get real info on this rather than speculation.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 02, 2013, 11:43:33 PM

here's the transaction from my qt client: https://i.imgur.com/vEu5BF9.jpg


This screen shot shows a transaction from January ?
Why is the date 1/3/2013?  .

I'm in Australia, 1/3/2013 means 1st March this side of the pond.

Yeah only Americans and Canadians are a bit confused ( YYYY/MM/DD and DD/MM/YYYY make sense, MM/DD/YYYY does not ;))


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: yogi on March 02, 2013, 11:44:14 PM
All the coins in those addresses where lost to Satoshi-dice. And that happened last year.

Oops, so they have, I was looking at 'funds received' and not 'final balance'  ::)


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 02, 2013, 11:45:45 PM
All the coins in those addresses where lost to Satoshi-dice. And that happened last year.

Oops, so they have, I was looking at 'funds received' and not 'final balance'  ::)

I'm getting more and more confused. I didn't gamble the 50 BTC..


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: Blazr on March 02, 2013, 11:45:56 PM
I've been browing throguh the blockchain for a while now and think I know whats going on.

http://blockchain.info/address/133r7YFYeppNXcPdH4V3aYjkNBgpK13cQi
http://blockchain.info/address/13Em2vyhUGX3Yh75vfFcfKdsE946YXPDsV
http://blockchain.info/address/15LS9PzkcDbHshfUSiQTHkEGU3xHatNNLo
http://blockchain.info/address/1CdAUybo8gDGLgdSkvjUP4fbBX14LFLShf
http://blockchain.info/address/1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj

You own those addresses, they are in your bitcoin-qt client, they are change addresses and each contain a few BTC, last one has 10BTC.

I haven't used bitcoin-qt in a while now, but AFAIK it hides change addresses from the GUI.

Try doing a rescan: Bitcoin-qt.exe -rescan and then try sending to a blockchain address again.

Also, just incase you are worried, you haven't lost your BTC, that would be very difficult to do without deleting your wallet.dat.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: Anon136 on March 02, 2013, 11:47:17 PM

here's the transaction from my qt client: https://i.imgur.com/vEu5BF9.jpg


This screen shot shows a transaction from January ?
Why is the date 1/3/2013?  .

I'm in Australia, 1/3/2013 means 1st March this side of the pond.

Yeah only Americans and Canadians are a bit confused ( YYYY/MM/DD and DD/MM/YYYY make sense, MM/DD/YYYY does not ;))

i vote YYYY/MM/DD. A) its the most logical B) no one does it so everyone can be equally inconvenienced by the change!

egalitarianism ftw!


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: Rampion on March 02, 2013, 11:47:48 PM

All the coins in those addresses where lost to Satoshi-dice. And that happened last year.

No they weren't. Please, I'd rather get real info on this rather than speculation.

That's not speculation, that's what the blockchain says.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: BurtW on March 02, 2013, 11:49:28 PM

All the coins in those addresses where lost to Satoshi-dice. And that happened last year.

No they weren't. Please, I'd rather get real info on this rather than speculation.

That's not speculation, that's what the blockchain says.
Yes, most, if not all of those coins from the two addresses posted were wasted at SD.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 02, 2013, 11:51:46 PM
Please take the following steps (I presume you use windows):

1) Go to: C:\Users\ACCOUNTNAME\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin (switch in your accountname for ACCOUNTNAME)
2) Create a file there called bitcoin.conf
3) Add the line "server=1" in that file and save

4) Open a command prompt
5) Cd to INSTALLDIRECTORYOFBITCOIN/daemon  (most likely C:\program files\bitcoin\daemon)
6) Run bitcoind
7) Open a second command prompt and go to the same directory
8) Run Bitcoind.exe listtransactions
9) Paste the results here

Off-topic

i vote YYYY/MM/DD. A) its the most logical B) no one does it so everyone can be equally inconvenienced by the change!

egalitarianism ftw!

This format is being used. I'm sure it is used in Scandinavia but there are more countries. Look up the Wikipedia entry :)


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: Anon136 on March 03, 2013, 12:04:29 AM

This format is being used. I'm sure it is used in Scandinavia but there are more countries. Look up the Wikipedia entry :)

good to know. If you do it that way then when you organize the entries alphabetically (numerically?) you also organize the dates chronologically. Its pretty obvious to me that this is the best way.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 03, 2013, 12:13:33 AM

This format is being used. I'm sure it is used in Scandinavia but there are more countries. Look up the Wikipedia entry :)

good to know. If you do it that way then when you organize the entries alphabetically (numerically?) you also organize the dates chronologically. Its pretty obvious to me that this is the best way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country

I agree, however dd/mm/yyyy is also at least in consecutive order. mm/dd/yyyy is just ..... stupid?


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 03, 2013, 12:32:26 AM
Please take the following steps (I presume you use windows):

1) Go to: C:\Users\ACCOUNTNAME\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin (switch in your accountname for ACCOUNTNAME)
2) Create a file there called bitcoin.conf
3) Add the line "server=1" in that file and save

4) Open a command prompt
5) Cd to INSTALLDIRECTORYOFBITCOIN/daemon  (most likely C:\program files\bitcoin\daemon)
6) Run bitcoind
7) Open a second command prompt and go to the same directory
8) Run Bitcoind.exe listtransactions
9) Paste the results here


I tried this but when I try to run bitcoind it tells me 'to use bitcoind you must set an rpc password in the configuration file. It is recommended you use the following password - {redacted} questions: do I have to include the line rpcuser=bitcoinrpc and is there a minimum length for this password?

thanks


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 03, 2013, 12:42:06 AM
You can put
Code:
rpcuser=anything
rpcpassword=whateveryouwant
in the bitcoin.conf file.

I don't remember needing this step, but perhaps I did always have a user and password specified. I don't know if there is a minimum length or not. Just give it a shot.

Sorry I skipped that step because I didn't knew it was necessary (of course I had it in my bitcoin.conf )


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 03, 2013, 12:52:20 AM
You can put
Code:
rpcuser=anything
rpcpassword=whateveryouwant
in the bitcoin.conf file.

I don't remember needing this step, but perhaps I did always have a user and password specified. I don't know if there is a minimum length or not. Just give it a shot.

Try, try again...I've done it all but it keeps telling me to do it again, dammit. I'm assuming using notepad to create the .conf file is okay?

So far I can't get this to work at all and now this step is driving me nuts!


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 03, 2013, 01:09:21 AM
Notepad is fine.

1) Are you saving the file in the right location?

2) Did you name it correctly? Note: If you have disabled displaying extension Windows could be hiding the *.txt portion so it might be the true name of the file is bitcoin.conf.txt. If this is the case it will not work. So to by-pass this again we'll use the command prompt again
2a.) CD to C:\Users\ACCOUNTNAME\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin (switch in your accountname for ACCOUNTNAME)
2b) type "dir" <Enter>. Do you see bitcoin.conf.txt ? Then type "ren bitcoin.conf.txt bitcoin.conf"

3) Is this the content of the file?

rpcuser=youruser
rpcpassword=PASSWORD
server=1


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 03, 2013, 01:28:58 AM
Notepad is fine.

1) Are you saving the file in the right location?

2) Did you name it correctly? Note: If you have disabled displaying extension Windows could be hiding the *.txt portion so it might be the true name of the file is bitcoin.conf.txt. If this is the case it will not work. So to by-pass this again we'll use the command prompt again
2a.) CD to C:\Users\ACCOUNTNAME\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin (switch in your accountname for ACCOUNTNAME)
2b) type "dir" <Enter>. Do you see bitcoin.conf.txt ? Then type "ren bitcoin.conf.txt bitcoin.conf"

3) Is this the content of the file?

rpcuser=youruser
rpcpassword=PASSWORD
server=1

Aha, mea culpa on the file extension; renamed, many thanks. It's definitely in usename/appdata/roaming/bitcoin...

Now its telling me "to use the -server option you must set a rpcpassword etc."

Tel me, where you wrote "rpcuser=youruser", what should 'youruser' be?

The content of the .conf file are as follows
rpcuser=bitcoinrpc
rpcpassword={redacted}
server=1

It's running now but it seems to be taking its time..


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 03, 2013, 02:05:38 AM
Ho long does bitcoind normally run for? An do I need to let it finish before I run -listtransactions?


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 03, 2013, 02:14:09 AM
Ho long does bitcoind normally run for? An do I need to let it finish before I run -listtransactions?

Are you saying that your local block chain was not up to date?

I dunno, am I ? Sorry, but it I have no idea...it did update in the qt client earlier today..


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 03, 2013, 02:15:39 AM
Oh I think I get it  ;D

It keeps running forever (it's a daemon thread the other command prompt will talk to) and you can run the other command prompt immediately.

(I'm not laughing at you, just how ridiculously limited natural language is at times ;))


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 03, 2013, 02:20:15 AM
Oh I think I get it  ;D

It keeps running forever (it's a daemon thread the other command prompt will talk to) and you can run the other command prompt immediately.

(I'm not laughing at you, just how ridiculously limited natural language is at times ;))

Go ahead and laugh, I'm a big dumb boy, I can take it :)

I tried running -listtransactions in another window and got 'cannot obtain a lock on the data directory ....Bitcoin is probably already running.

The qt client isn't running though..:(


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: the joint on March 03, 2013, 02:23:53 AM
Oh I think I get it  ;D

It keeps running forever (it's a daemon thread the other command prompt will talk to) and you can run the other command prompt immediately.

(I'm not laughing at you, just how ridiculously limited natural language is at times ;))

Go ahead and laugh, I'm a big dumb boy, I can take it :)

I tried running -listtransactions in another window and got 'cannot obtain a lock on the data directory ....Bitcoin is probably already running.

The qt client isn't running though..:(


Sometimes when I quit Bitcoin-Qt, it still appears in the list of "processes" in my task manager.  When it's listed there and I try to reopen Bitcoin-Qt, I get the same error message.  Try checking to see if it's listed there and close the process 'Bitcoin-Qt", then reopen it.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 03, 2013, 02:28:32 AM
Oh I think I get it  ;D

It keeps running forever (it's a daemon thread the other command prompt will talk to) and you can run the other command prompt immediately.

(I'm not laughing at you, just how ridiculously limited natural language is at times ;))

Go ahead and laugh, I'm a big dumb boy, I can take it :)

I tried running -listtransactions in another window and got 'cannot obtain a lock on the data directory ....Bitcoin is probably already running.

The qt client isn't running though..:(


try it without the '-'

So: bitcoind.exe listransactions


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 03, 2013, 02:32:57 AM
Okay, I have a list of transactions..:)

Now, how on earth do I copy/paste the info from a cmd window here?


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: yogi on March 03, 2013, 02:35:32 AM
Right click on the little command prompt icon in the top left of the cmd prompt window. Then edit. copy.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 03, 2013, 03:08:30 AM
Thanks, I must come across as a real thickhead lol

C:\Users\me\Downloads\bitcoin-0.7.2-win32\bitcoin-0.7.2-win32\daemon
>bitcoind.exe listtransactions
[
    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "1dice7fUkz5h4z2wPc1wLMPWgB5mDwKDx",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -2.00000000,
        "fee" : -0.00050000,
        "confirmations" : 293,
        "blockhash" : "00000000000004249e6db4a5e9ac87ef72fe0f6d6ffd336d114193a1a
0c5599a",
        "blockindex" : 376,
        "blocktime" : 1362109791,
        "txid" : "e15136e2bc758c0db2bd2de39455336f94569406f1f89a6949c462083061b5
61",
        "time" : 1362108899,
        "timereceived" : 1362108899
    },
    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "1CGXqKGNRftuoivVqyz7HKkmgSaQqgYwc7",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -50.00000000,
        "fee" : -0.00050000,
        "confirmations" : 0,
        "txid" : "a98c289b3ed5f2dc93296c7fdcde2865e382293b8ad54d3daa81d924e06b11
2a",
        "time" : 1362109147,
        "timereceived" : 1362109147
    },
    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "1HswYkBpPKdwfjh1CNosZEByTm5gdKgWK5",
        "category" : "receive",
        "amount" : 49.00500000,
        "confirmations" : 0,
        "txid" : "3d34d4a999b306c8990cdedc333d924140031a395722b1b7674c9cb5bb8aeb
c6",
        "time" : 1362109251,
        "timereceived" : 1362109251
    },
    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "1HswYkBpPKdwfjh1CNosZEByTm5gdKgWK5",
        "category" : "receive",
        "amount" : 0.99400000,
        "confirmations" : 0,
        "txid" : "74f27c8b9d5b75b2ee64c2d9a7fe7642bd5c00da74d4ea675199dbc96c85de
3a",
        "time" : 1362109293,
        "timereceived" : 1362109293
    },
    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "1dice97ECuByXAvqXpaYzSaQuPVvrtmz6",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -0.25000000,
        "fee" : -0.00100000,
        "confirmations" : 289,
        "blockhash" : "000000000000028e0b3b3ec5d27250d3058d27e031751f280d1c4f6c9
41ae0b0",
        "blockindex" : 108,
        "blocktime" : 1362111585,
        "txid" : "2d1d3634f9e7cc59f88592ff0eb717ea52b8226df89503356e46316ea9f6ed
0a",
        "time" : 1362110735,
        "timereceived" : 1362110735
    },
    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "174iQeYzBVh2i5j9Ci7cG5EeaZuqh8ytzP",
        "category" : "receive",
        "amount" : 0.00075000,
        "confirmations" : 289,
        "blockhash" : "000000000000028e0b3b3ec5d27250d3058d27e031751f280d1c4f6c9
41ae0b0",
        "blockindex" : 426,
        "blocktime" : 1362111585,
        "txid" : "053c0cf237da2dd06041a48154afd407a202353636929bde3fea6792ae39a4
00",
        "time" : 1362110785,
        "timereceived" : 1362110785
    },
    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "1dice7fUkz5h4z2wPc1wLMPWgB5mDwKDx",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -0.25000000,
        "fee" : -0.00050000,
        "confirmations" : 289,
        "blockhash" : "000000000000028e0b3b3ec5d27250d3058d27e031751f280d1c4f6c9
41ae0b0",
        "blockindex" : 219,
        "blocktime" : 1362111585,
        "txid" : "e8ab6b01d1ffeddf934a76656838a0d0e70ad9557abd960c03723d040233ec
80",
        "time" : 1362110809,
        "timereceived" : 1362110809
    },
    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "1AxavoucvwpXVQ4J875kyoFnHEf4eygSVA",
        "category" : "receive",
        "amount" : 0.00075000,
        "confirmations" : 289,
        "blockhash" : "000000000000028e0b3b3ec5d27250d3058d27e031751f280d1c4f6c9
41ae0b0",
        "blockindex" : 488,
        "blocktime" : 1362111585,
        "txid" : "e7bab74e6316528061b6f3fffcf517ba78a55bb63c51df58f5cc06411435c5
8d",
        "time" : 1362110890,
        "timereceived" : 1362110890
    },
    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "1HFsZr9Sd9dra2hkVa2gnH9SAQNNWdBKwj",
        "category" : "receive",
        "amount" : 0.00950000,
        "confirmations" : 290,
        "blockhash" : "000000000000004496f2410d8aa3336e57ce08e6a75b3d69d2c6a1e4d
d735252",
        "blockindex" : 55,
        "blocktime" : 1362110934,
        "txid" : "99eaaf55b6b8fbbb9a86984c6523f9e19258e12359d6eaa3fd466435b69457
73",
        "time" : 1362110934,
        "timereceived" : 1362111182
    },
    {
        "account" : "",
        "address" : "1VTxNDC4G5fkaW27uBLAGeaLoFx7szFAb",
        "category" : "receive",
        "amount" : 0.00200000,
        "confirmations" : 265,
        "blockhash" : "000000000000001ee614247b5794d64b39f14c95bf7e585444efc49aa
bc7d119",
        "blockindex" : 223,
        "blocktime" : 1362125084,
        "txid" : "0a9820317eab9fed696693645ad6f10cbab47285001a0c4aca76db4d431f57
00",
        "time" : 1362125084,
        "timereceived" : 1362125363
    }
]

C:\Users\me\Downloads\bitcoin-0.7.2-win32\bitcoin-0.7.2-win32\daemon
>


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 03, 2013, 03:40:48 AM
Does the above make sense to anyone?


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: Digigami on March 03, 2013, 04:33:45 AM
Yes, but no.. Neither of the addresses listed above which were involved with the large transactions (around 50BTC) have ever had confirmed transactions.

I didn't spend too much time, but I can't seem to locate the coins at any stage, before or after your troubles.

This all started when you upgraded your client? I'm not certain, but if your original wallet was corrupted and/overwritten in the upgrade process then the coins don't reside in any of the addresses you've listed. I can't remember what the client specifically renames the bad wallet to, but have you ever seen any files in the appdata folder for bitcoin which could have been named along the lines of wallet.bak.old or oldwallet.bak or something like that?

Further, do you recall from where you received these 50 coins initially? If you can recall or find out the address or transaction ID's from where you first got these coins it will aid in finding what address they are currently associated to.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 03, 2013, 05:10:18 AM


This all started when you upgraded your client? ...

Uh, no.


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have you ever seen any files in the appdata folder for bitcoin which could have been named along the lines of wallet.bak.old or oldwallet.bak or something like that?

No there's nothing like that.

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Further, do you recall from where you received these 50 coins initially? If you can recall or find out the address or transaction ID's from where you first got these coins it will aid in finding what address they are currently associated to.

I had some of them already before all this happened, about 34 of them which I'd funded back in january and early february. Not sure of the rest.
My qt client now tells me I have 50.001 BTC unconfirmed, does that mean I'll get them sometime?
 


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: Digigami on March 03, 2013, 05:17:37 AM


This all started when you upgraded your client? ...

Uh, no.


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have you ever seen any files in the appdata folder for bitcoin which could have been named along the lines of wallet.bak.old or oldwallet.bak or something like that?

No there's nothing like that.

Quote
Further, do you recall from where you received these 50 coins initially? If you can recall or find out the address or transaction ID's from where you first got these coins it will aid in finding what address they are currently associated to.

I had some of them already before all this happened, about 34 of them which I'd funded back in january and early february. Not sure of the rest.
My qt client now tells me I have 50.001 BTC unconfirmed, does that mean I'll get them sometime?
 

Ok, sorry for misinterpreting some of the information.

Certainly good your showing them back in unconfirmed, as long as you don't have any other transactions rescanned which spend those coins they should confirm once your client is done syncing. Look at your transaction history, and retrieve the transaction ID's for the tx's which brought those coins into your wallet. Paste them here and/or into blockchain.info's search bar and you can verify if the coins still belong to the addresses in your wallet or have been spent.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 03, 2013, 01:19:08 PM
Well that list of transactions gave me a clue. In the list you have the address 1HFsZr9Sd9dra2hkVa2gnH9SAQNNWdBKwj listed both in a send and in a receive transaction. I don't know whether this is till the case, but Bitcoind used to not send transactions you send to one of your own addresses to the network but handle it in it's internal state.

1) Have you tried rescanning the blockchain? Importing an address you have send a (unconfirmed) transaction too could have put poor old bitcoind in an inconsistent state. To do this close you daemon process and run:
C:\Program files\Bitcoin\bitcoin-qt -rescan

This will take a little while. See if you can see your balance once more.

2) If 1. doesn't help restart the daemon and we are going to run some commands on the bitcoind (in the new command window)

a. run: "bitcoind listaccounts" and verify that it only returns one line with "" . (I checked this is your transactions, this is to make sure).
b. run:
     bitcoind getbalance ""
     (with he quotes, if a. returned more than one line  run it for each of the names returned within quotes and  show me all output)


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 03, 2013, 10:10:09 PM
Well that list of transactions gave me a clue. In the list you have the address 1HFsZr9Sd9dra2hkVa2gnH9SAQNNWdBKwj listed both in a send and in a receive transaction. I don't know whether this is till the case, but Bitcoind used to not send transactions you send to one of your own addresses to the network but handle it in it's internal state.

1) Have you tried rescanning the blockchain? Importing an address you have send a (unconfirmed) transaction too could have put poor old bitcoind in an inconsistent state. To do this close you daemon process and run:
C:\Program files\Bitcoin\bitcoin-qt -rescan

This will take a little while. See if you can see your balance once more.

2) If 1. doesn't help restart the daemon and we are going to run some commands on the bitcoind (in the new command window)

a. run: "bitcoind listaccounts" and verify that it only returns one line with "" . (I checked this is your transactions, this is to make sure).
b. run:
     bitcoind getbalance ""
     (with he quotes, if a. returned more than one line  run it for each of the names returned within quotes and  show me all output)

I rescanned, the 50BTC are still unconfirmed among eitght other unconfirmed trnsactions...

Will run the daemon again now.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 03, 2013, 10:56:53 PM
Okay, only one account showed up. The listbalance command gave this result: 18.53402320

Curiouser and curiouser.....


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 03, 2013, 11:01:58 PM
Okay, could you run:

bitcoind getaddressesbyaccount ""


(10 of your Bitcoins are here at least: http://blockchain.info/address/1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj )


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 03, 2013, 11:27:48 PM
getaddrressbyaccount result: 1Ku3K296rDi4CTXTiacC8kAp8q5tkb28NM


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 03, 2013, 11:40:24 PM
What?

So am I right:

a. bitcoind listaccounts returns 1 account
b. bitcoind getbalance "" returns 18.53402320
c. bitcoind getaddressesbyaccount "" returns only 1 account namely 1Ku3K296rDi4CTXTiacC8kAp8q5tkb28NM

1Ku3K296rDi4CTXTiacC8kAp8q5tkb28NM  http://blockchain.info/address/1Ku3K296rDi4CTXTiacC8kAp8q5tkb28NM holds 0 BTC. And the total received amount equals the getbalance you reported: 18.5340232.

How the hell do you only have one address, yet I see other addresses on which you received transactions in your transaction list? :|

1. If you start bitcoin-qt instead of the daemon (which you will have to close) do you see more than one address?
2 .Could you start a command prompt, cd to C:\Users\ACCOUNTNAME\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin (switch in your accountname for ACCOUNTNAME) and paste the result of the dir command here?

This is very confusing (partly why I summarized is I am hoping someone else will be able to help you out).


edit:

3. Also try: bitcoind getbalance (without a specific account should return the total for all your accounts but you report you only have one)


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 03, 2013, 11:46:45 PM
Also, can you explain you send money to http://blockchain.info/address/1Bd5wrFxHYRkk4UCFttcPNMYzqJnQKfXUE ?

In this transaction: http://blockchain.info/tx/053c0cf237da2dd06041a48154afd407a202353636929bde3fea6792ae39a400

(Other gambling service?)

Similarly: http://blockchain.info/address/12Cf6nCcRtKERh9cQm3Z29c9MWvQuFSxvT


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 04, 2013, 12:33:36 AM
What?

So am I right:

a. bitcoind listaccounts returns 1 account
b. bitcoind getbalance "" returns 18.53402320
c. bitcoind getaddressesbyaccount "" returns only 1 account namely 1Ku3K296rDi4CTXTiacC8kAp8q5tkb28NM

1Ku3K296rDi4CTXTiacC8kAp8q5tkb28NM  http://blockchain.info/address/1Ku3K296rDi4CTXTiacC8kAp8q5tkb28NM holds 0 BTC. And the total received amount equals the getbalance you reported: 18.5340232.

Yep right so far..

Quote
How the hell do you only have one address, yet I see other addresses on which you received transactions in your transaction list? :|
Buggered if I know, I'm the newbie, remember ? :)

Quote
1. If you start bitcoin-qt instead of the daemon (which you will have to close) do you see more than one address?

I have two other accounts under 'recieve coins' in bitcoin-qt. They are 1KbUKTJsm4zA6YKUH5SXGDxKVCpJEhfkew and 1HswYkBpPKdwfjh1CNosZEByTm5gdKgWK5


Quote
2 .Could you start a command prompt, cd to C:\Users\ACCOUNTNAME\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin (switch in your accountname for ACCOUNTNAME) and paste the result of the dir command here?

Directory of C:\Users\me\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin

4/03/2013  11:21 AM    <DIR>          .
4/03/2013  11:21 AM    <DIR>          ..
1/01/2013  03:07 PM                 0 .lock
3/03/2013  12:35 PM                67 bitcoin.conf
1/02/2013  01:04 AM     2,097,361,271 blk0001.dat
1/02/2013  12:00 PM     2,097,295,438 blk0002.dat
4/03/2013  11:19 AM     1,922,045,943 blk0003.dat
4/03/2013  11:19 AM     1,915,486,208 blkindex.dat
4/03/2013  08:30 AM    <DIR>          database
4/03/2013  11:12 AM               403 db.log
4/03/2013  11:12 AM           740,350 debug.log
4/03/2013  11:21 AM           873,644 peers.dat
4/03/2013  11:19 AM           663,552 wallet.dat
             10 File(s)  8,034,466,876 bytes
              3 Dir(s)  18,206,416,896 bytes free



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This is very confusing (partly why I summarized is I am hoping someone else will be able to help you out).

You might be confused, but I'm totally lost :)

Quote
edit:

3. Also try: bitcoind getbalance (without a specific account should return the total for all your accounts but you report you only have one)

That gave me a result of 13.38739848, the same figure I have in confirmed BTC. Ther are still 50.0001 unconfirmed sitting there..


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 04, 2013, 09:19:23 PM
Geez, I was hoping someone a little more knowledgeable about raw transactions than me would jump in. Oh well, don't worry we're going to keep trying :)

First I would like to see which version you are running. Run "bitcoind.exe getinfo" on a command line and see if you have at least version 7 (I had to upgrade). Also please paste the results here.

Following this, you can request far more verbose output about transactions by doing:
bitcoind getrawtransaction <txid> 1             (so the txids and then a space and then the number 1)
I would like you to do this for the following 3 txids (and paste the result here):

a98c289b3ed5f2dc93296c7fdcde2865e382293b8ad54d3daa81d924e06b112a
3d34d4a999b306c8990cdedc333d924140031a395722b1b7674c9cb5bb8aebc6
74f27c8b9d5b75b2ee64c2d9a7fe7642bd5c00da74d4ea675199dbc96c85de3a

Finally it is possible to retransmit transactions (for some reason the network didn't pick them up). This goes as follows:

1. In the result you pasted above for the tree transactions you see a "hex" value. Copy this hex into a text editor (notepad) and remove the linebreaks so i is all on one line without spaces.
2. Copy the result of 1
3. bitcoind sendrawtransaction <paste>
4. Do this for each of the three transactions above, hopefully the network will pick them up now

PS:

If all this doesn't work there is always the possibility of removing the transactions that aren't working from your local database. In essence this would revert the transactions in question (as for some reason they aren't being relayed by the network). I'll have to investigate how to do this however.

Edit:

It seems that from version 0.7 onwards you don't need to use the command prompt anymore. Instead start the qt client, click help-> debug window and then change to the console tab. Use the commands here but ommit bitcoind. (So "bitcoind listtransactions" becomes "listrransactions")


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 06, 2013, 10:49:17 PM
Hi Wachtwoord (is that Dutch?)

Thanks again for your help...I have been too busy the last couple of days to do anything about this but I'm back and still have 50 BTC unconfirmed in my bitcoin-qt client.

Here's the result of doing the getrawtransaction on the three txids you mentioned. I've seperted them with a line of >>>>>>>> to make it easier to see:




{
"hex" : "0100000004be4a01bbe5e5c80e813a38ea7ab256fa31b2f75e36d75ba5a0fb3d75538423e100000 0006b4830450221008f9783599418b0a82688f63b66bf960f24d4fe9fa5cc6e9f6a18ac940faba5 7902202ca2dcf20342476e405942f970d1d9de326befce947ff0d0acefc72f6da9f1e60121037f1 d956983298e0283997adc7e8e605687cfd453dbd009dd504ac8c4bc9abe33ffffffff61b5613008 62c449699af8f1069456946f335594e32dbdb20d8c75bce23651e1000000006a47304402200aa41 3c50ba683fffeecfcafdbea8f20a62fedf28ac9192230a04f8b91b5674e0220418a7e84e1d72af6 7070570f1ea647d6a549e976f12906756d1fbf6d7a14396b01210261d898b1743dc44ccdfed6960 4ab88b40bd659849858cba78be06a55f87f92f7ffffffffa2f8b1ad9cbda2b74f00d51a892f2127 9a1dae2130160975fa7dd74386671e78000000006b483045022100911d8aad7fac2e93350a70d77 022b612a00602e038ba31f94d95735144210c7b022041488fb13dc92f4d43a82b3c28649ea2147c c5c7d4f0ae0a84811e12d37b15990121037f1d956983298e0283997adc7e8e605687cfd453dbd00 9dd504ac8c4bc9abe33ffffffffdfd3af9b3119339ce4a666d8a02d876b23e4b78657f5719d025b 1c60ce328730000000006a47304402207fc6cad0921114d6b149d5056a72d12d6acbe189c48b8e5 64823c418db964a060220772960a41e1e8c9cd25bbd39b5c0a346ce94d014d5ec3a97e4c59e936e 07e6de01210361173f75ccbe39a88126872eebbdd4badd101ef3206f29378df58b8251d544e8fff fffff027033cd16000000001976a9147f36065ccc298853c0f4f533d31c913bd6e18e0088ac00f2 052a010000001976a9147b995c7492fd00f9d81907423882ee931ee5df2188ac00000000",
"txid" : "a98c289b3ed5f2dc93296c7fdcde2865e382293b8ad54d3daa81d924e06b112a",
"version" : 1,
"locktime" : 0,
"vin" : [
{
"txid" : "e1238453753dfba0a55bd7365ef7b231fa56b27aea383a810ec8e5e5bb014abe",
"vout" : 0,
"scriptSig" : {
"asm" : "30450221008f9783599418b0a82688f63b66bf960f24d4fe9fa5cc6e9f6a18ac940faba57902202 ca2dcf20342476e405942f970d1d9de326befce947ff0d0acefc72f6da9f1e601 037f1d956983298e0283997adc7e8e605687cfd453dbd009dd504ac8c4bc9abe33",
"hex" : "4830450221008f9783599418b0a82688f63b66bf960f24d4fe9fa5cc6e9f6a18ac940faba579022 02ca2dcf20342476e405942f970d1d9de326befce947ff0d0acefc72f6da9f1e60121037f1d9569 83298e0283997adc7e8e605687cfd453dbd009dd504ac8c4bc9abe33"
},
"sequence" : 4294967295
},
{
"txid" : "e15136e2bc758c0db2bd2de39455336f94569406f1f89a6949c462083061b561",
"vout" : 0,
"scriptSig" : {
"asm" : "304402200aa413c50ba683fffeecfcafdbea8f20a62fedf28ac9192230a04f8b91b5674e0220418 a7e84e1d72af67070570f1ea647d6a549e976f12906756d1fbf6d7a14396b01 0261d898b1743dc44ccdfed69604ab88b40bd659849858cba78be06a55f87f92f7",
"hex" : "47304402200aa413c50ba683fffeecfcafdbea8f20a62fedf28ac9192230a04f8b91b5674e02204 18a7e84e1d72af67070570f1ea647d6a549e976f12906756d1fbf6d7a14396b01210261d898b174 3dc44ccdfed69604ab88b40bd659849858cba78be06a55f87f92f7"
},
"sequence" : 4294967295
},
{
"txid" : "781e678643d77dfa7509163021ae1d9a27212f891ad5004fb7a2bd9cadb1f8a2",
"vout" : 0,
"scriptSig" : {
"asm" : "3045022100911d8aad7fac2e93350a70d77022b612a00602e038ba31f94d95735144210c7b02204 1488fb13dc92f4d43a82b3c28649ea2147cc5c7d4f0ae0a84811e12d37b159901 037f1d956983298e0283997adc7e8e605687cfd453dbd009dd504ac8c4bc9abe33",
"hex" : "483045022100911d8aad7fac2e93350a70d77022b612a00602e038ba31f94d95735144210c7b022 041488fb13dc92f4d43a82b3c28649ea2147cc5c7d4f0ae0a84811e12d37b15990121037f1d9569 83298e0283997adc7e8e605687cfd453dbd009dd504ac8c4bc9abe33"
},
"sequence" : 4294967295
},
{
"txid" : "308732ce601c5b029d71f55786b7e4236b872da0d866a6e49c3319319bafd3df",
"vout" : 0,
"scriptSig" : {
"asm" : "304402207fc6cad0921114d6b149d5056a72d12d6acbe189c48b8e564823c418db964a060220772 960a41e1e8c9cd25bbd39b5c0a346ce94d014d5ec3a97e4c59e936e07e6de01 0361173f75ccbe39a88126872eebbdd4badd101ef3206f29378df58b8251d544e8",
"hex" : "47304402207fc6cad0921114d6b149d5056a72d12d6acbe189c48b8e564823c418db964a0602207 72960a41e1e8c9cd25bbd39b5c0a346ce94d014d5ec3a97e4c59e936e07e6de01210361173f75cc be39a88126872eebbdd4badd101ef3206f29378df58b8251d544e8"
},
"sequence" : 4294967295
}
],
"vout" : [
{
"value" : 3.82546800,
"n" : 0,
"scriptPubKey" : {
"asm" : "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 7f36065ccc298853c0f4f533d31c913bd6e18e00 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
"hex" : "76a9147f36065ccc298853c0f4f533d31c913bd6e18e0088ac",
"reqSigs" : 1,
"type" : "pubkeyhash",
"addresses" : [
"1CbdY5Mbwnsgqp7sumzBhcRdY1BUWLhQ94"
]
}
},
{
"value" : 50.00000000,
"n" : 1,
"scriptPubKey" : {
"asm" : "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 7b995c7492fd00f9d81907423882ee931ee5df21 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
"hex" : "76a9147b995c7492fd00f9d81907423882ee931ee5df2188ac",
"reqSigs" : 1,
"type" : "pubkeyhash",
"addresses" : [
"1CGXqKGNRftuoivVqyz7HKkmgSaQqgYwc7"
]
}
}
]
}
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


getrawtransaction 3d34d4a999b306c8990cdedc333d924140031a395722b1b7674c9cb5bb8aebc6 1


09:33:02

{
"hex" : "01000000012a116be024d981aa3d4dd58a3b2982e36528dedc7f6c2993dcf2d53e9b288ca901000 0008b4830450220798c52c00228748ae5507eac13ebbe719153960495d315d618521025962562ff 022100afa7f0584066e2ef99b15bfad7b3b96a424aa2eeb77d1c6506ef8fab0094fd76014104459 cfeacc68435e0d0fb2349c00d0678e6584adbd21c7becd24b0b0f0a8d7c56f0c6dda34391305514 28613ecc6d48be27c5b8f2317302cae7f4afe57d66c978ffffffff0220b21724010000001976a91 4b924582d398db5235b813d7d50e55c38c81bd0a988ac907ced05000000001976a9147b995c7492 fd00f9d81907423882ee931ee5df2188ac00000000",
"txid" : "3d34d4a999b306c8990cdedc333d924140031a395722b1b7674c9cb5bb8aebc6",
"version" : 1,
"locktime" : 0,
"vin" : [
{
"txid" : "a98c289b3ed5f2dc93296c7fdcde2865e382293b8ad54d3daa81d924e06b112a",
"vout" : 1,
"scriptSig" : {
"asm" : "30450220798c52c00228748ae5507eac13ebbe719153960495d315d618521025962562ff022100a fa7f0584066e2ef99b15bfad7b3b96a424aa2eeb77d1c6506ef8fab0094fd7601 04459cfeacc68435e0d0fb2349c00d0678e6584adbd21c7becd24b0b0f0a8d7c56f0c6dda343913 0551428613ecc6d48be27c5b8f2317302cae7f4afe57d66c978",
"hex" : "4830450220798c52c00228748ae5507eac13ebbe719153960495d315d618521025962562ff02210 0afa7f0584066e2ef99b15bfad7b3b96a424aa2eeb77d1c6506ef8fab0094fd76014104459cfeac c68435e0d0fb2349c00d0678e6584adbd21c7becd24b0b0f0a8d7c56f0c6dda3439130551428613 ecc6d48be27c5b8f2317302cae7f4afe57d66c978"
},
"sequence" : 4294967295
}
],
"vout" : [
{
"value" : 49.00500000,
"n" : 0,
"scriptPubKey" : {
"asm" : "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 b924582d398db5235b813d7d50e55c38c81bd0a9 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
"hex" : "76a914b924582d398db5235b813d7d50e55c38c81bd0a988ac",
"reqSigs" : 1,
"type" : "pubkeyhash",
"addresses" : [
"1HswYkBpPKdwfjh1CNosZEByTm5gdKgWK5"
]
}
},
{
"value" : 0.99450000,
"n" : 1,
"scriptPubKey" : {
"asm" : "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 7b995c7492fd00f9d81907423882ee931ee5df21 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
"hex" : "76a9147b995c7492fd00f9d81907423882ee931ee5df2188ac",
"reqSigs" : 1,
"type" : "pubkeyhash",
"addresses" : [
"1CGXqKGNRftuoivVqyz7HKkmgSaQqgYwc7"
]
}
}
]
}
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


09:44:50

getrawtransaction 74f27c8b9d5b75b2ee64c2d9a7fe7642bd5c00da74d4ea675199dbc96c85de3a 1


09:44:50

{
"hex" : "0100000001c6eb8abbb59c4c67b7b12257391a034041923d33dcde0c99c806b399a9d4343d01000 0008c493046022100a4b0b8aacab95d4609bdaa28be529f3e772a4e0a1375bc3ed9469afad48e25 e3022100aeb8b52f08df26272c25905973bd5d36b4b8b965a347889efafc07e043af9f3a0141044 59cfeacc68435e0d0fb2349c00d0678e6584adbd21c7becd24b0b0f0a8d7c56f0c6dda343913055 1428613ecc6d48be27c5b8f2317302cae7f4afe57d66c978ffffffff0140b9ec05000000001976a 914b924582d398db5235b813d7d50e55c38c81bd0a988ac00000000",
"txid" : "74f27c8b9d5b75b2ee64c2d9a7fe7642bd5c00da74d4ea675199dbc96c85de3a",
"version" : 1,
"locktime" : 0,
"vin" : [
{
"txid" : "3d34d4a999b306c8990cdedc333d924140031a395722b1b7674c9cb5bb8aebc6",
"vout" : 1,
"scriptSig" : {
"asm" : "3046022100a4b0b8aacab95d4609bdaa28be529f3e772a4e0a1375bc3ed9469afad48e25e302210 0aeb8b52f08df26272c25905973bd5d36b4b8b965a347889efafc07e043af9f3a01 04459cfeacc68435e0d0fb2349c00d0678e6584adbd21c7becd24b0b0f0a8d7c56f0c6dda343913 0551428613ecc6d48be27c5b8f2317302cae7f4afe57d66c978",
"hex" : "493046022100a4b0b8aacab95d4609bdaa28be529f3e772a4e0a1375bc3ed9469afad48e25e3022 100aeb8b52f08df26272c25905973bd5d36b4b8b965a347889efafc07e043af9f3a014104459cfe acc68435e0d0fb2349c00d0678e6584adbd21c7becd24b0b0f0a8d7c56f0c6dda34391305514286 13ecc6d48be27c5b8f2317302cae7f4afe57d66c978"
},
"sequence" : 4294967295
}
],
"vout" : [
{
"value" : 0.99400000,
"n" : 0,
"scriptPubKey" : {
"asm" : "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 b924582d398db5235b813d7d50e55c38c81bd0a9 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
"hex" : "76a914b924582d398db5235b813d7d50e55c38c81bd0a988ac",
"reqSigs" : 1,
"type" : "pubkeyhash",
"addresses" : [
"1HswYkBpPKdwfjh1CNosZEByTm5gdKgWK5"
]
}
}
]
}

I will attempt to resend the transactions now.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 06, 2013, 11:07:39 PM
I don't know if I posted this already, but this is the blockchain.info wallet I sent the BTC to:
https://i.imgur.com/1y1PBAN.jpg

I'm guessing this is some part of the probelm?


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 06, 2013, 11:21:08 PM
Yes it is Dutch and you're welcome. (I can imagine this really sucks if you have no idea what is going on technically :))

We are finally making progress:


T1: a98c289b3ed5f2dc93296c7fdcde2865e382293b8ad54d3daa81d924e06b112a
T2: 3d34d4a999b306c8990cdedc333d924140031a395722b1b7674c9cb5bb8aebc6
T3: 74f27c8b9d5b75b2ee64c2d9a7fe7642bd5c00da74d4ea675199dbc96c85de3a

Transaction T1 is the input for transaction T2 and T2 is the input for T3. T1 isn't being confirmed because 2 of the 4 inputs aren't in the blockchain (so retransmitting won't work)

TA: e1238453753dfba0a55bd7365ef7b231fa56b27aea383a810ec8e5e5bb014abe --> Not in the blockchain
TB: e15136e2bc758c0db2bd2de39455336f94569406f1f89a6949c462083061b561 --> Fine, contains 10.023 BTC
TC: 781e678643d77dfa7509163021ae1d9a27212f891ad5004fb7a2bd9cadb1f8a2 --> Fine contains 15.889734 BTC
TD: 308732ce601c5b029d71f55786b7e4236b872da0d866a6e49c3319319bafd3df --> Not in the blockchain

So, could you also run the getrawtransaction  on TA and TD (the two transactions not in the blockchain) to get to the root of the problem.

Edit:

I'm off to bed soon, but will continue to help you asynchronously ;)

Edit 2: Please also try:

bitcoind listreceivedbyaddress 0 true  (I like to cross reference you actually have the keys to all these addresses. I think you do, but otherwise they could potentially belong to Blockchain.info)


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 06, 2013, 11:45:21 PM
Yes it is Dutch and you're welcome. (I can imagine this really sucks if you have no idea what is going on technically :))

You're so right...:)


 
Quote
So, could you also run the getrawtransaction  on TA and TD (the two transactions not in the blockchain) to get to the root of the problem. 

Edit:

I'm off to bed soon, but will continue to help you asynchronously ;)

:):) And I shall reward you synchronously

Here's the result:

10:37:11

getrawtransaction e1238453753dfba0a55bd7365ef7b231fa56b27aea383a810ec8e5e5bb014abe 1


10:37:11

{
"hex" : "0100000001ce3967abf6eeaddf50f7438c468ee93011e6c195e3204642adbe28be1e611add00000 0006b483045022100dd7051a3682041e9a95cf4910c2dc17c67c3bfbd3e51de593259a53f68c995 b502203a9b8c3911b0ecfa3ea2363a4b2947bd6deebebbda16677af14c1efde766e965012102d37 278d10a6efa6f36bee8024ec8ea6cbfc27b19d103027cde57292581d3ce57ffffffff0258cfb55e 000000001976a914d89ae20b4b233ed184147de5a7f3031c24c1b90388ac002d310100000000197 6a91406f1b66fd59a34755c37a8f701f43e937cdbeb1388ac00000000",
"txid" : "e1238453753dfba0a55bd7365ef7b231fa56b27aea383a810ec8e5e5bb014abe",
"version" : 1,
"locktime" : 0,
"vin" : [
{
"txid" : "dd1a611ebe28bead424620e395c1e61130e98e468c43f750dfadeef6ab6739ce",
"vout" : 0,
"scriptSig" : {
"asm" : "3045022100dd7051a3682041e9a95cf4910c2dc17c67c3bfbd3e51de593259a53f68c995b502203 a9b8c3911b0ecfa3ea2363a4b2947bd6deebebbda16677af14c1efde766e96501 02d37278d10a6efa6f36bee8024ec8ea6cbfc27b19d103027cde57292581d3ce57",
"hex" : "483045022100dd7051a3682041e9a95cf4910c2dc17c67c3bfbd3e51de593259a53f68c995b5022 03a9b8c3911b0ecfa3ea2363a4b2947bd6deebebbda16677af14c1efde766e965012102d37278d1 0a6efa6f36bee8024ec8ea6cbfc27b19d103027cde57292581d3ce57"
},
"sequence" : 4294967295
}
],
"vout" : [
{
"value" : 15.88973400,
"n" : 0,
"scriptPubKey" : {
"asm" : "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 d89ae20b4b233ed184147de5a7f3031c24c1b903 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
"hex" : "76a914d89ae20b4b233ed184147de5a7f3031c24c1b90388ac",
"reqSigs" : 1,
"type" : "pubkeyhash",
"addresses" : [
"1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY"
]
}
},
{
"value" : 0.20000000,
"n" : 1,
"scriptPubKey" : {
"asm" : "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 06f1b66fd59a34755c37a8f701f43e937cdbeb13 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
"hex" : "76a91406f1b66fd59a34755c37a8f701f43e937cdbeb1388ac",
"reqSigs" : 1,
"type" : "pubkeyhash",
"addresses" : [
"1dice7fUkz5h4z2wPc1wLMPWgB5mDwKDx"
]
}
}
]
}
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

10:43:11

getrawtransaction 308732ce601c5b029d71f55786b7e4236b872da0d866a6e49c3319319bafd3df 1


10:43:11

{
"hex" : "0100000001019b8f2712b164c88fbb010c6699895185f70e639ae107b032f58ddc556b3a0300000 0006b483045022100a9f1831a9f1ce10a3effd56fdc0035beba6d7203c3b82758ecbb18f2cafb08 5e02200b735df9f23d845baa6bafb85cb908093a519ed56ac6d5b67a88b2bb526d34f70121033c2 20d18dda6828257a1342650f51d7bf2c12c6d94523a26f8543866284e98a3ffffffff02b067aa47 000000001976a914b2520bf1934dfb7547ebbd50c9cdb6d2aa72b8c688ac40787d0100000000197 6a91406f1b66ffe49df7fce684df16c62f59dc9adbd3f88ac00000000",
"txid" : "308732ce601c5b029d71f55786b7e4236b872da0d866a6e49c3319319bafd3df",
"version" : 1,
"locktime" : 0,
"vin" : [
{
"txid" : "033a6b55dc8df532b007e19a630ef785518999660c01bb8fc864b112278f9b01",
"vout" : 0,
"scriptSig" : {
"asm" : "3045022100a9f1831a9f1ce10a3effd56fdc0035beba6d7203c3b82758ecbb18f2cafb085e02200 b735df9f23d845baa6bafb85cb908093a519ed56ac6d5b67a88b2bb526d34f701 033c220d18dda6828257a1342650f51d7bf2c12c6d94523a26f8543866284e98a3",
"hex" : "483045022100a9f1831a9f1ce10a3effd56fdc0035beba6d7203c3b82758ecbb18f2cafb085e022 00b735df9f23d845baa6bafb85cb908093a519ed56ac6d5b67a88b2bb526d34f70121033c220d18 dda6828257a1342650f51d7bf2c12c6d94523a26f8543866284e98a3"
},
"sequence" : 4294967295
}
],
"vout" : [
{
"value" : 12.02350000,
"n" : 0,
"scriptPubKey" : {
"asm" : "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 b2520bf1934dfb7547ebbd50c9cdb6d2aa72b8c6 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
"hex" : "76a914b2520bf1934dfb7547ebbd50c9cdb6d2aa72b8c688ac",
"reqSigs" : 1,
"type" : "pubkeyhash",
"addresses" : [
"1HFsZr9Sd9dra2hkVa2gnH9SAQNNWdBKwj"
]
}
},
{
"value" : 0.25000000,
"n" : 1,
"scriptPubKey" : {
"asm" : "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 06f1b66ffe49df7fce684df16c62f59dc9adbd3f OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
"hex" : "76a91406f1b66ffe49df7fce684df16c62f59dc9adbd3f88ac",
"reqSigs" : 1,
"type" : "pubkeyhash",
"addresses" : [
"1dice8EMZmqKvrGE4Qc9bUFf9PX3xaYDp"
]
}
}
]
}




Quote
Edit 2: Please also try:

bitcoind listreceivedbyaddress 0 true  (I like to cross reference you actually have the keys to all these addresses. I think you do, but otherwise they could potentially belong to Blockchain.info)


10:44:01

listreceivedbyaddress 0 true


10:44:01

[
{
"address" : "1dice7fUkz5h4z2wPc1wLMPWgB5mDwKDx",
"account" : "times four BET LOW!!!",
"amount" : 0.00000000,
"confirmations" : 0
},
{
"address" : "1CGXqKGNRftuoivVqyz7HKkmgSaQqgYwc7",
"account" : "blockchain",
"amount" : 0.00000000,
"confirmations" : 0
},
{
"address" : "1dice2pxmRZrtqBVzixvWnxsMa7wN2GCK",
"account" : "point two",
"amount" : 0.00000000,
"confirmations" : 0
},
{
"address" : "1dice8EMZmqKvrGE4Qc9bUFf9PX3xaYDp",
"account" : "double or",
"amount" : 0.00000000,
"confirmations" : 0
},
{
"address" : "1Ku3K296rDi4CTXTiacC8kAp8q5tkb28NM",
"account" : "earllefeb",
"amount" : 18.53402320,
"confirmations" : 2307
},
{
"address" : "1dice9wcMu5hLF4g81u8nioL5mmSHTApw",
"account" : "",
"amount" : 0.00000000,
"confirmations" : 0
},
{
"address" : "1KbUKTJsm4zA6YKUH5SXGDxKVCpJEhfkew",
"account" : "",
"amount" : 30.08000001,
"confirmations" : 24603
},
{
"address" : "1HswYkBpPKdwfjh1CNosZEByTm5gdKgWK5",
"account" : "",
"amount" : 49.99900000,
"confirmations" : 0
},
{
"address" : "1dice1e6pdhLzzWQq7yMidf6j8eAg7pkY",
"account" : "longshot",
"amount" : 0.00000000,
"confirmations" : 0
},
{
"address" : "1dice97ECuByXAvqXpaYzSaQuPVvrtmz6",
"account" : "50%",
"amount" : 0.00000000,
"confirmations" : 0
},
{
"address" : "1dice1Qf4Br5EYjj9rnHWqgMVYnQWehYG",
"account" : "",
"amount" : 0.00000000,
"confirmations" : 0
},
{
"address" : "1dice4J1mFEvVuFqD14HzdViHFGi9h4Pp",
"account" : "",
"amount" : 0.00000000,
"confirmations" : 0
}
]


Does any of that help?


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 07, 2013, 01:13:35 AM
I should have gone to bed but got distracted and am still up.

TA e1238453753dfba0a55bd7365ef7b231fa56b27aea383a810ec8e5e5bb014abe
has 1 input:
TA1. dd1a611ebe28bead424620e395c1e61130e98e468c43f750dfadeef6ab6739ce which is in the Blockchain (16.090234 BTC)

TD 308732ce601c5b029d71f55786b7e4236b872da0d866a6e49c3319319bafd3df
has 1 input:
TD1. 033a6b55dc8df532b007e19a630ef785518999660c01bb8fc864b112278f9b01 which is in the Blockchain (12.274 BTC)

However both TA1 AND TD1 have already been spend in another transaction.
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/57438804/dd1a611ebe28bead424620e395c1e61130e98e468c43f750dfadeef6ab6739ce
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/57442378/033a6b55dc8df532b007e19a630ef785518999660c01bb8fc864b112278f9b01

So none of these transactions are ever going to confirm (you are trying to spend funds which are alreay spend). And we are going to have to remove these transactions (that you only have locally). I'll have to look up how to do that.
I'm pretty sure deleting and redownloading the blockchain would do it but that can take a while, so I'll check it out later.

But when I started to make the list of addresses where the coins reside right now I ran into something odd. TB and TC from above show that in the following addresses reside:

1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj http://blockchain.info/address/1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj 10.023 BTC
1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY http://blockchain.info/address/1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY 15.889734 BTC

So then I traversed the spend inputs (TA1 and TD1) and found that they are indeed the inputs of TB and TC! Yes the rejected transaction was trying to turn 25.912734 BTC into 54.276968 BTC via some weird circular transaction.
I'm sure you didn't do it on purpose but I have no clue how you even achieved this without issuing raw transactions by hand.


So there are .. things we are going to do:

1) Is it possible (by your own accounting) that you only have 25.912734 BTC left?
2) Let's at least make certain you own 1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj and 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY. This is what I was trying to achieve with the last command but that did something completely different.

a. Again open run the deamon and start the other command prompt
b. <optional if you have encrypted your wallet>. Run: bitcoind walletpassphrase PASSWORD TIMEOUT (where PASSWORD is your password and timeout is the time in second to unlock your wallet so we can attempt the next step, 20 seconds per address should suffice)
c. Run: bitcoind signmessage 1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj test
d. Run: bitcoind signmessage 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY test  (note: if you are to slow you may need to repeat step b)

If c and d where successful (do not return an error code) you are certain you own the respective addresses and can access the 25.912734 BTC.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 07, 2013, 01:55:17 AM
I should have gone to bed but got distracted and am still up.

TA e1238453753dfba0a55bd7365ef7b231fa56b27aea383a810ec8e5e5bb014abe
has 1 input:
TA1. dd1a611ebe28bead424620e395c1e61130e98e468c43f750dfadeef6ab6739ce which is in the Blockchain (16.090234 BTC)

TD 308732ce601c5b029d71f55786b7e4236b872da0d866a6e49c3319319bafd3df
has 1 input:
TD1. 033a6b55dc8df532b007e19a630ef785518999660c01bb8fc864b112278f9b01 which is in the Blockchain (12.274 BTC)

However both TA1 AND TD1 have already been spend in another transaction.
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/57438804/dd1a611ebe28bead424620e395c1e61130e98e468c43f750dfadeef6ab6739ce
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/57442378/033a6b55dc8df532b007e19a630ef785518999660c01bb8fc864b112278f9b01

So none of these transactions are ever going to confirm (you are trying to spend funds which are alreay spend). And we are going to have to remove these transactions (that you only have locally). I'll have to look up how to do that.
I'm pretty sure deleting and redownloading the blockchain would do it but that can take a while, so I'll check it out later.

But when I started to make the list of addresses where the coins reside right now I ran into something odd. TB and TC from above show that in the following addresses reside:

1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj http://blockchain.info/address/1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj 10.023 BTC
1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY http://blockchain.info/address/1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY 15.889734 BTC

So then I traversed the spend inputs (TA1 and TD1) and found that they are indeed the inputs of TB and TC! Yes the rejected transaction was trying to turn 25.912734 BTC into 54.276968 BTC via some weird circular transaction.
I'm sure you didn't do it on purpose but I have no clue how you even achieved this without issuing raw transactions by hand.


So there are .. things we are going to do:

1) Is it possible (by your own accounting) that you only have 25.912734 BTC left?

This is quite possible. Upon reflection I think that's what I probably SHOULD have, in addition to the 13.137 etc in my qt client balance (ie confirmed). When I looked at all the transactions, it does seem there was a jump of 25-odd BTC which I cant quite account for..

Quote
2) Let's at least make certain you own 1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj and 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY. This is what I was trying to achieve with the last command but that did something completely different.

a. Again open run the deamon and start the other command prompt
b. <optional if you have encrypted your wallet>. Run: bitcoind walletpassphrase PASSWORD TIMEOUT (where PASSWORD is your password and timeout is the time in second to unlock your wallet so we can attempt the next step, 20 seconds per address should suffice)
c. Run: bitcoind signmessage 1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj test
d. Run: bitcoind signmessage 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY test  (note: if you are to slow you may need to repeat step b)

If c and d where successful (do not return an error code) you are certain you own the respective addresses and can access the 25.912734 BTC.


EDIT: Both seemed successful - no error code but some long alphanumeric mumbojumbo was displayed after each signmessage was run


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 07, 2013, 08:44:55 PM
Well then the good news is you have access to those 25.912734 BTC the bad news it is not ~50 like you thought (but then it never were).

The problem is these flawed transactions (you actually tried to double spend you cheeky bugger ;)) are in limbo. If you  want to check see http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/txlist/ . That is a list of all unconfirmed transactions and if you control+f for T1, T2, T3, TA, TD (well the codes for them of course) you'll see them in the list (since March 1st).

To be honest I am not 100% sure how we can fix this (I am very sure we can though) so I'm going to suggest some options which in the very worst case won't work.

1) Do you have an old backup of your wallet.dat? If so, this is what we'll do:

A) Close Bitcoin-qt
B) In the C:\Users\me\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin directory rename the wallet.dat (do not delete it to be safe, just rename it).
C) Copy and paste the backup wallet.dat to this directory
D) Start Bitcoin-qt with the rescan command
E) If all your Bitcoins show up as confirmed, create a new address and send them all there. (We do this because eventually your client would receive all transactions from the network even unconfirmed ones and then you would again be unable to spend the Bitcoins)

If you do not have a backup or step 1 didn't work we'll do the following:

2) We're going to export the private keys from 1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj and 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY , create a new wallet, import the keys into the new wallet and move the coins.

a. Again open run the deamon and start the other command prompt
b. <optional if you have encrypted your wallet>. Run: bitcoind walletpassphrase PASSWORD TIMEOUT (where PASSWORD is your password and timeout is the time in second to unlock your wallet so we can attempt the next step, 20 seconds per address should suffice)
c. Run: bitcoind dumpprivkey 1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj
d. Run: bitcoind signmessage 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY test  (note: if you are to slow you may need to repeat step b)
e. Copy and paste the two private keys to a notepad file
f. Stop the daemon command
g. In the C:\Users\me\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin directory rename the wallet.dat (do not delete it to be safe, just rename it).
h. Start the daemon thread (do NOT copy a backup wallet.dat to the folder, there should be not file named wallet.dat there so the client will create a new wallet)
i. Run the following command: bitcoind importprivkey privkey1 (the first private key you copied to the notepad file)
j. Run the following command: bitcoind importprivkey privkey2
NOTE i and j may take a while
k. Now see if you have access to the funds, if so create a new Bitcoin address and send all your funds there for reasons explained above.

Hopefully one of these two methods will give you access to your coins again.

Beware:

1) Do NOT share your private keys on this forum. Anyone who has them can take your coins
2) Do NOT save the notepad file with the private keys as this poses a security risk. May be it's best to just avoid using these addresses anyway.

Finally: How did you guess wachtwoord was Dutch (it's Dutch for password)? Dutch relatives? :)


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 07, 2013, 10:50:44 PM
Well then the good news is you have access to those 25.912734 BTC the bad news it is not ~50 like you thought (but then it never were).

The problem is these flawed transactions (you actually tried to double spend you cheeky bugger ;)) are in limbo. If you  want to check see http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/txlist/ . That is a list of all unconfirmed transactions and if you control+f for T1, T2, T3, TA, TD (well the codes for them of course) you'll see them in the list (since March 1st).

To be honest I am not 100% sure how we can fix this (I am very sure we can though) so I'm going to suggest some options which in the very worst case won't work.

1) Do you have an old backup of your wallet.dat?

Unfortunately I don't..:(

 
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If you do not have a backup or step 1 didn't work we'll do the following:

2) We're going to export the private keys from 1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj and 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY , create a new wallet, import the keys into the new wallet and move the coins.

a. Again open run the deamon and start the other command prompt
b. <optional if you have encrypted your wallet>. Run: bitcoind walletpassphrase PASSWORD TIMEOUT (where PASSWORD is your password and timeout is the time in second to unlock your wallet so we can attempt the next step, 20 seconds per address should suffice)
c. Run: bitcoind dumpprivkey 1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj
d. Run: bitcoind signmessage 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY test  (note: if you are to slow you may need to repeat step b)

Is this correct or should I dumprivkey from BOTH transactions?

 
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e. Copy and paste the two private keys to a notepad file
f. Stop the daemon command
g. In the C:\Users\me\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin directory rename the wallet.dat (do not delete it to be safe, just rename it).
h. Start the daemon thread (do NOT copy a backup wallet.dat to the folder, there should be not file named wallet.dat there so the client will create a new wallet)
i. Run the following command: bitcoind importprivkey privkey1 (the first private key you copied to the notepad file)
j. Run the following command: bitcoind importprivkey privkey2
NOTE i and j may take a while
k. Now see if you have access to the funds, if so create a new Bitcoin address and send all your funds there for reasons explained above.

Hopefully one of these two methods will give you access to your coins again.

Beware:

1) Do NOT share your private keys on this forum. Anyone who has them can take your coins
2) Do NOT save the notepad file with the private keys as this poses a security risk. May be it's best to just avoid using these addresses anyway.

Thanks. It's happening now and I'll let you know the result when it completes.

 
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Finally: How did you guess wachtwoord was Dutch (it's Dutch for password)? Dutch relatives? :) 

I was actually born in Eindhoven, but left Holland when I was three and came to Australia. My Dutch is pretty rusty but I can muddle my way through some of it :)

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Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 07, 2013, 11:00:39 PM
Okay, as I sort of suspected, the second importprivkey didn't work. I assume that is because step (c) was incorrect in your guide? I won't do any mor till you let me know.



Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 07, 2013, 11:04:24 PM
Yes you should, I made a "copy-paste-edit" mistake.

d should be: bitcoind dumpprivkey 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY

sorry :)


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 07, 2013, 11:21:07 PM
Yes you should, I made a "copy-paste-edit" mistake.

d should be: bitcoind dumpprivkey 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY

sorry :)

I'm in awe of how much you know about this, don't apologise :)

When I tried to dum that key I got:
error: {"code":-4,"message":"Private key for address 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfm
njs8MSY is not known"}

I had a bit of a look at my new wallet and it has 10.023 BTC, with none unconfirmed :(


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 07, 2013, 11:34:43 PM
I had a bit of a look at my new wallet and it has 10.023 BTC, with none unconfirmed :(

The 10.023 are from 1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj http://blockchain.info/address/1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj  (1060 confirmations). Did you mean they are unconfirmed? Then this little trick didn't work. You can try another rescan later, but first:

When I tried to dum that key I got:
error: {"code":-4,"message":"Private key for address 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfm
njs8MSY is not known"}

Did you remember to switch back to your own wallet when attempting to dump the second key ( 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY )? The new wallet is not going to have that key. You need to switch back to your 'real' wallet, dump the private key. The switch back to the freshly generated wallet and import the key.




Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 07, 2013, 11:46:39 PM
I had a bit of a look at my new wallet and it has 10.023 BTC, with none unconfirmed :(

The 10.023 are from 1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj http://blockchain.info/address/1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj  (1060 confirmations). Did you mean they are unconfirmed? Then this little trick didn't work. You can try another rescan later, but first: [/qyuote]

No, sorry, I meant they are confirmed.

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Did you remember to switch back to your own wallet when attempting to dump the second key ( 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY )? The new wallet is not going to have that key. You need to switch back to your 'real' wallet, dump the private key. The switch back to the freshly generated wallet and import the key.


How do I switch, just rename the wallet.dat files?



Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 07, 2013, 11:51:44 PM
Great that they are confirmed :)

Yes, to switch simply rename. It always uses the file named wallet.dat.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 08, 2013, 12:22:16 AM
I tried doing that in the debug console withing the qt client (with the previous wallet) and got this:

Private key for address 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY is not known (code -4)


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 08, 2013, 12:25:47 AM
I tried doing that in the debug console withing the qt client (with the previous wallet) and got this:

Private key for address 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY is not known (code -4)

In post #68 you ran this command:

bitcoind signmessage 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY test

and it returned okay. So:

1) Can you repeat: bitcoind signmessage 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY test
2) Are you sure you unlocked your wallet if encrypted (bitcoind walletpassphrase PASSWORD TIMEOUT)
3) Are you sure you put the correct wallet.dat back?


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 08, 2013, 02:56:22 AM

In post #68 you ran this command:

bitcoind signmessage 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY test

and it returned okay. So:

1) Can you repeat: bitcoind signmessage 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY test

It replied with ILZjvMYaAaQWvXQPUx9bsnTFLyCFkA6asSkLb6mqTORYzHZv8x24FvojoqNadM/4lmBbJWagtt9NfzGS
iX8U3qg=

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2) Are you sure you unlocked your wallet if encrypted (bitcoind walletpassphrase PASSWORD TIMEOUT)

Yes
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3) Are you sure you put the correct wallet.dat back?

Yes.

Sorry about the delay in replying, had some visitors i couldn't get rid of


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 08, 2013, 04:02:27 AM
In post #57 you wrote:
(10 of your Bitcoins are here at least: http://blockchain.info/address/1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj )

Hmm, how do I get my BTC out of that address?


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 08, 2013, 05:28:04 PM
It replied with ILZjvMYaAaQWvXQPUx9bsnTFLyCFkA6asSkLb6mqTORYzHZv8x24FvojoqNadM/4lmBbJWagtt9NfzGS
iX8U3qg=

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2) Are you sure you unlocked your wallet if encrypted (bitcoind walletpassphrase PASSWORD TIMEOUT)

Yes
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3) Are you sure you put the correct wallet.dat back?

Yes.

I checked and you signed the message test with the Bitcoin address 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY. Therefore I am 100% certain you own the private key (and therefore the funds). As you answered yes to my two questions above there is only one possibility left: You mistyped it (maybe you added a space?) should be:

bitcoind dumpprivkey 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY

(be sure to unlock your wallet first (bitcoind walletpassphrase PASSWORD TIMEOUT).

(and after you get this working import the private key in the second wallet you created)



Sorry about the delay in replying, had some visitors i couldn't get rid of

No worries

In post #57 you wrote:
(10 of your Bitcoins are here at least: http://blockchain.info/address/1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj )

Hmm, how do I get my BTC out of that address?


Very simple. Just start bitcoin with the wallet.dat to which you imported the private key and send the funds to a new Bitcoin address. Try to export/import the other address first though.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 08, 2013, 10:38:00 PM
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I checked and you signed the message test with the Bitcoin address 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY. Therefore I am 100% certain you own the private key (and therefore the funds). As you answered yes to my two questions above there is only one possibility left: You mistyped it (maybe you added a space?) should be:

bitcoind dumpprivkey 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY

I copied and pasted it but I'm still getting error: {"code":-4,"message":"Private key for address 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfm
njs8MSY is not known"} :) And I'm certain this is my original wallet, because the second one you had me create has no encryption, so if I try walletpassphrase with that one it tells me the passphrase doesn't apply..:(

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Very simple. Just start bitcoin with the wallet.dat to which you imported the private key and send the funds to a new Bitcoin address. Try to export/import the other address first though.
Could you please explain that ? Is that the first private key which I dumped earlier?


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 08, 2013, 11:57:58 PM
[
I checked and you signed the message test with the Bitcoin address 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY. Therefore I am 100% certain you own the private key (and therefore the funds). As you answered yes to my two questions above there is only one possibility left: You mistyped it (maybe you added a space?) should be:

bitcoind dumpprivkey 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY

I copied and pasted it but I'm still getting error: {"code":-4,"message":"Private key for address 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfm
njs8MSY is not known"} :) And I'm certain this is my original wallet, because the second one you had me create has no encryption, so if I try walletpassphrase with that one it tells me the passphrase doesn't apply..:(

This is very very weird. Can you please confirm that if you run the commands:

bitcoind dumpprivkey 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY
and
bitcoind signmessage 1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY test

consecutively (so without switching wallets or restarting th deamon or anything. Just right after each other), the first command fails and the second succeeds?

If so, I'll have to look into this more because then something happens which to me is inherently impossible (the private key is required for both these commands, how can one succeed and the other fail?)

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Very simple. Just start bitcoin with the wallet.dat to which you imported the private key and send the funds to a new Bitcoin address. Try to export/import the other address first though.
Could you please explain that ? Is that the first private key which I dumped earlier?

You imported the private key to the first address ( 1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj ) into the second wallet file. So when you have the second wallet file loaded (where you can see the Bitcoins for this address as confirmed and available) you have access to these coins and can move them. So if you create a new address (under receive) you can send them there for instance. Another option is to create a new address in your original wallet file and send the coins there. By moving the coins you actually prove to yourself you have access to the coins again :)


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 09, 2013, 12:55:14 AM
I must have fat fingers, I got a private key that time..<shakes head>

Let me just check somthing pls


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 09, 2013, 01:01:33 AM
Okay, let me guess...stop the daemon, change to the newer wallet file and import the second private key?

EDIT: That did it:)

Okay, I now have 25.912734 confirmed BTC in my new wallet .Many thanks, once I get this all sorted I shall donate some to you.

Now, I have another small problem. Yesterday I decided to move my remaining 13-something BTC from the old wallet to a new one created in Armory. Unfortunately, that transaction hasn't confirmed yet, so I have 13.612 more BTC in limbo somewhere. Can you help me find them? I promise I'll do nothing else after that lol

The transaction details are:
Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 8/03/2013 14:43
To: 17hzeZ8gKwLAHASyh85S5FSNYAFsexPAyk
Debit: -13.612 BTC
Net amount: -13.612 BTC
Transaction ID: 3ea177ce0db93b9bbbdc2286f5ca08e038a364db704205250d253d704a67d6a1


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 09, 2013, 05:37:59 PM
Okay, let me guess...stop the daemon, change to the newer wallet file and import the second private key?

EDIT: That did it:)

Okay, I now have 25.912734 confirmed BTC in my new wallet .Many thanks, once I get this all sorted I shall donate some to you.

Great that worked out. You're welcome and thanks for the donation :)

Now, I have another small problem. Yesterday I decided to move my remaining 13-something BTC from the old wallet to a new one created in Armory. Unfortunately, that transaction hasn't confirmed yet, so I have 13.612 more BTC in limbo somewhere. Can you help me find them? I promise I'll do nothing else after that lol

The transaction details are:
Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 8/03/2013 14:43
To: 17hzeZ8gKwLAHASyh85S5FSNYAFsexPAyk
Debit: -13.612 BTC
Net amount: -13.612 BTC
Transaction ID: 3ea177ce0db93b9bbbdc2286f5ca08e038a364db704205250d253d704a67d6a1


I'll look into this tomorrow, got my birthday party to head down to first ;)


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 10, 2013, 02:22:11 PM
Okay I checked and this transaction isn't even in http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/txlist/ so you need to give me more info again by running the command:

bitcoind getrawtransaction <txid> 1


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 11, 2013, 01:57:04 AM
Getrawtransaction :

12:22:36

{
"hex" : "010000001b00571f434ddb76ca4a0c1a008572b4ba0cf1d65a64936669ed9fab7e3120980a00000 0006a47304402200ac345c0a2fa5765a01def83ae48848e528c0663b3f151f937244813c378ef3c 022026b4e05efa4b4f4b8571aedf0ff8edc2513f27ba86efcc5f10dfa1d3de47b2860121024f570 c745e8c81a22501e6b540377475d873d006dc76fb5b307945adb9e9e473ffffffff0189a990947e 178bb075728319b0f9d3b2472b84cbfeaba2d03768146b141bed000000006a473044022004c2022 d15f1cc62ee43b2d1e0769b59ce5cd7710e2d33d92994d61f3e8ed77902205b17365ec455cdbc07 159be2b67d290757f4d1214e5bd55e36eb8b21ef3ed7c401210340734c863db71da9e9fac88d910 f4610795a0433eeb920ea928bba1ab322c523ffffffff0aedf6a96e31466e350395f86d22b852ea 17b70eff9285f859cce7f934361d2d000000006b483045022100933752fa8448b8f56a45d13697b e923281b434f2f0181462165513d7ca44814b022050bcecb2a39b4eae523b1c76d668081f8917c5 940e16f10b445f205b495859e7012102accb0e0152e5f023df4d20c81d8ba5adb44f7444e2cc285 14d165b5aa0a2c2d0ffffffff015ce96d27a88038acca805abcd4321117bac5d129081205e6d016 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Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: lophie on March 11, 2013, 02:06:01 AM
The coins were double spent by the CIA omg Bitcoin is no more sell sell fast!

Kidding aside, I suggest you start using electrum. it gets handy when jumping between servers to check the consistency of the balance shown. And no block chain headache that you do not want to sign for.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 11, 2013, 08:58:32 PM
Wow, you keep making these more complicate. 27 inputs this time! This is a real mess.

It fails because it is trying to double spend again namely:

1H2yyTj7vFxJP3x97rVVXAXnTW23gaEVQ1 - (Spent) 0.48875 BTC

AND because it is trying to use http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/txlist/#a98c289b3ed5f2dc93296c7fdcde2865e382293b8ad54d3daa81d924e06b112a which is the weirdest transaction because it using the same input twice in it's input. Wonder why the network rejected it?

Doing anything with this was actually a lot of work because of the many inputs. I went through all your unspent inputs and saved every one that was over 1 bitcent. You can export and import them the same way as you did for the other addresses (so export the private key and import it in the other wallet). (You have roughly 9.5 BTC)

1Pznojb55KKnca216FP497DSD1qRC25Jr - (Unspent) 0.48875 BTC
18RzzcpoUhgPFUKhw9xS3DWfzdtcqRVr3a - (Unspent) 2.4011176 BTC
14jS8V98j3dAXEjoUZMJYJ5YRL5uqXGQYf - (Unspent) 0.048174 BTC
1EocsyNb5JXfHTJFnS7U2dMPbvfhREqCxL - (Unspent) 1.6005784 BTC
1Q1ax772H3kxWkKr3V4RjzJC1Tt9ZV6Wog - (Unspent) 0.1495392 BTC
16KqV5iN4afAyz5K9NQLGHrV3WRSoyisja - (Unspent) 0.1001544 BTC
1HHZUXzrXxsuYFie5zkRkjyLWF6SEL6NmK - (Unspent) 0.72359 BTC
1K3dZ2Bynas9ZyAMS3zsGm97ahCTEetZXx - (Unspent) 0.013848 BTC
133r7YFYeppNXcPdH4V3aYjkNBgpK13cQi - (Unspent) 2.000848 BTC
15LS9PzkcDbHshfUSiQTHkEGU3xHatNNLo - (Unspent) 0.8010392 BTC
13Em2vyhUGX3Yh75vfFcfKdsE946YXPDsV - (Unspent) 1.2003088 BTC
1Bw2fSWU3TRFga9fvFPJrizhNNQPqm6nPV - (Unspent) 0.010008 BTC


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 11, 2013, 10:03:21 PM
9.5 BTC? I transferred 13.62 confirmed BTC from one wallet to another, I have no idea were all these small transactions come from?


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 11, 2013, 10:24:23 PM
~9.5 BTC + 0.48 BTC (that has already been spend 1H2yyTj7vFxJP3x97rVVXAXnTW23gaEVQ1 ) + 3.82 BTC (from the weird transaction with the double spends, follow the link, which takes a while to load, and see what I mean) = ~13.62

These are the weirdest thing I have ever seen in the BlockChain that weren't intentionally put there. I have no idea at all what you could have done to cause this (without meaning to). I mean:

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March 1, 2013, 3:39 a.m. a98c289b3ed5f2dc93296c7fdcde2865e382293b8ad54d3daa81d924e06b112a This transaction includes 0.00050000 BTC as fee. size: 668 bytes priority: 6,755,981,980 input: 53.82596800 BTC

    15.88973400 BTC from unconfirmed e1238453753dfba0a55bd7365ef7b231fa56b27aea383a810ec8e5e5bb014abe:0 (1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY)
    10.02300000 BTC from e15136e2bc758c0db2bd2de39455336f94569406f1f89a6949c462083061b561:0 (1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj)
    15.88973400 BTC from 781e678643d77dfa7509163021ae1d9a27212f891ad5004fb7a2bd9cadb1f8a2:0 (1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY)
    12.02350000 BTC from unconfirmed 308732ce601c5b029d71f55786b7e4236b872da0d866a6e49c3319319bafd3df:0 (1HFsZr9Sd9dra2hkVa2gnH9SAQNNWdBKwj)

output: 53.82546800 BTC

    3.82546800 BTC to 1CbdY5Mbwnsgqp7sumzBhcRdY1BUWLhQ94
    50.00000000 BTC to 1CGXqKGNRftuoivVqyz7HKkmgSaQqgYwc7

uses the same input twice and of course one of the two transactions is unconfirmed. Also there are even a few inputs of the transaction you just posted of single Satoshi's. I guess it must all have something to do with Satoshidice and if there weren't any double inputs and double spends in your transactions I would guess that the recent patches to disrupt Satoshidice could have an affect, but I don't see how those can account for those anomalies. What is evident here is that all issues seem to have occurred on March 1st as the transaction I just quoted above is of that date as well (as were all the previous transactions I assisted you with before).

So, I understand you when you feel cheated, and I very much doubt any of the funds is actually gone. Most likely you never had the full 13.62 BTC, just as before, the client just misrepresented it to you due to the double spends in your local transaction database (in simple terms, the fact that your client thought transactions were there that weren't it saw some coins twice). The 9.5 BTC however is something you can access for sure.

If you would like to investigate further I would recommend to PM Erik Voorhees (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=12149)  as a SathosDice representative and Znort (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=5218) as a Blockchain analysis specialist, and alert them to this thread. If anything, maybe they can tell you what the hell you did to cause this cause I am still kind of in awe how a casual user can inadvertently cause this much havoc :)

(If you have questions feel free to ask and I'll answer to the best of my ability).


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 11, 2013, 10:49:53 PM
~9.5 BTC + 0.48 BTC (that has already been spend 1H2yyTj7vFxJP3x97rVVXAXnTW23gaEVQ1 ) + 3.82 BTC (from the weird transaction with the double spends, follow the link, which takes a while to load, and see what I mean) = ~13.62

These are the weirdest thing I have ever seen in the BlockChain that weren't intentionally put there. I have no idea at all what you could have done to cause this (without meaning to).

I agree. I'd almost be proud if I did it on purpose - and it didn't involve real money :)

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I guess it must all have something to do with Satoshidice and if there weren't any double inputs and double spends in your transactions I would guess that the recent patches to disrupt Satoshidice could have an affect, but I don't see how those can account for those anomalies. What is evident here is that all issues seem to have occurred on March 1st as the transaction I just quoted above is of that date as well (as were all the previous transactions I assisted you with before).

So, I understand you when you feel cheated, and I very much doubt any of the funds is actually gone. Most likely you never had the full 13.62 BTC, just as before, the client just misrepresented it to you due to the double spends in your local transaction database (in simple terms, the fact that your client thought transactions were there that weren't it saw some coins twice). The 9.5 BTC however is something you can access for sure.

If you would like to investigate further I would recommend to PM Erik Voorhees (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=12149)  as a SathosDice representative and Znort (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=5218) as a Blockchain analysis specialist, and alert them to this thread. If anything, maybe they can tell you what the hell you did to cause this cause I am still kind of in awe how a casual user can inadvertently cause this much havoc :)

(If you have questions feel free to ask and I'll answer to the best of my ability).

I've contacted both gentlemen you named and pointed them to this thread. I do appreciate your hard work so far. I too am confused, as I thought what I did was pretty basic. I certainly didn't TRY to double-spend any bitcoins..
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Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 12, 2013, 02:56:44 AM
I hope my issue wasn't some sort of precursor for the whole problem bitcoin seems to be having now...:(


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 14, 2013, 08:25:52 PM
No, there is not relation. Did Znort or Erik respond to your PMs?


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: MarlboroMan on March 14, 2013, 08:53:04 PM
Were you High, and or drunk during the period you sent the Bitcoins?


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 19, 2013, 03:18:40 AM
Were you High, and or drunk during the period you sent the Bitcoins?

No. Were you high and/or drunk when you wrote that post?


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 19, 2013, 03:23:53 AM
No, there is not relation. Did Znort or Erik respond to your PMs?

Hi Watchwoord.

I did get a reply, but they wanted me to summarise the five pages of this thread, which is fair enough, except I was so confused by the whole issue that I didn't feel capable of doing so... then the whole forked blockchain thing happened and I felt it unfair to bother them for a few days as I figured they'd be busy with far more important matters.Then I contracted a nasty influenza bug which has laid me low for the better part of a week.

Now I would like to proceed with reclaiming the still-missing BTC so I'm re-reading everything in the hope I'll wrap my head around it all again.. :o

EDIT: I'm hopelessly lost...could you PLEASE help me with the process for this:

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You can export and import them the same way as you did for the other addresses (so export the private key and import it in the other wallet). (You have roughly 9.5 BTC)

1Pznojb55KKnca216FP497DSD1qRC25Jr - (Unspent) 0.48875 BTC
18RzzcpoUhgPFUKhw9xS3DWfzdtcqRVr3a - (Unspent) 2.4011176 BTC
14jS8V98j3dAXEjoUZMJYJ5YRL5uqXGQYf - (Unspent) 0.048174 BTC
1EocsyNb5JXfHTJFnS7U2dMPbvfhREqCxL - (Unspent) 1.6005784 BTC
1Q1ax772H3kxWkKr3V4RjzJC1Tt9ZV6Wog - (Unspent) 0.1495392 BTC
16KqV5iN4afAyz5K9NQLGHrV3WRSoyisja - (Unspent) 0.1001544 BTC
1HHZUXzrXxsuYFie5zkRkjyLWF6SEL6NmK - (Unspent) 0.72359 BTC
1K3dZ2Bynas9ZyAMS3zsGm97ahCTEetZXx - (Unspent) 0.013848 BTC
133r7YFYeppNXcPdH4V3aYjkNBgpK13cQi - (Unspent) 2.000848 BTC
15LS9PzkcDbHshfUSiQTHkEGU3xHatNNLo - (Unspent) 0.8010392 BTC
13Em2vyhUGX3Yh75vfFcfKdsE946YXPDsV - (Unspent) 1.2003088 BTC
1Bw2fSWU3TRFga9fvFPJrizhNNQPqm6nPV - (Unspent) 0.010008 BTC

Are these the addresses or the tx ids?


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 19, 2013, 10:25:16 PM
I'll help you but I really have no time now. Those are addresses (just type them in http://blockchain.info )


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: donbenosee on March 19, 2013, 10:36:46 PM
No problem, I'll try a bit on my own for a while..thanks again..

EDIT: Okay, I tried dumpprivkey XXXXXXXX on all of those and got nothing but

"Private key for address xxxxxxxxxx is not known (code -4)"

Am I correct in assuming I should be doing this with the wallet from which I sent the 13.612 BTC?

Where did all these addresses come from, I don't recognise any of them.?

ANOTHER EDIT: This is so confusing. I entered a few of them into blockchain as your recommended and got lots of weird transactions that I'm sure I didn't make.

I wish I was a rocket scientist, this stuff is beyond me.. ???


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 28, 2013, 09:39:32 PM
Summary:

Chapter 1:

•   Donbenosee reported the ~50 BTC in his account weren’t being confirmed
•   To try and resolve it he imported his wallet to blockchain.info and hoped that would make all his Bitcoins accessible again, (instead something very weird happened)
•   He send the Bitcoins to 1CGXqKGNRftuoivVqyz7HKkmgSaQqgYwc7
•   I investigated and uncovered a very weird circular transaction:

(see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148511.msg1592827#msg1592827 for the raw trasnactions of T1, T2, T3. T1 is the transaction sending 50 BTC to 1CGXqKGNRftuoivVqyz7HKkmgSaQqgYwc7)
T1: a98c289b3ed5f2dc93296c7fdcde2865e382293b8ad54d3daa81d924e06b112a
T2: 3d34d4a999b306c8990cdedc333d924140031a395722b1b7674c9cb5bb8aebc6
T3: 74f27c8b9d5b75b2ee64c2d9a7fe7642bd5c00da74d4ea675199dbc96c85de3a

Transaction T1 is the input for transaction T2 and T2 is the input for T3. T1 isn't being confirmed because 2 of the 4 inputs aren't in the blockchain (so retransmitting won't work)

(see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148511.msg1593059#msg1593059 for the raw transactions of TA and TD)
TA: e1238453753dfba0a55bd7365ef7b231fa56b27aea383a810ec8e5e5bb014abe --> Not in the blockchain
TB: e15136e2bc758c0db2bd2de39455336f94569406f1f89a6949c462083061b561 --> Fine, contains 10.023 BTC
TC: 781e678643d77dfa7509163021ae1d9a27212f891ad5004fb7a2bd9cadb1f8a2 --> Fine contains 15.889734 BTC
TD: 308732ce601c5b029d71f55786b7e4236b872da0d866a6e49c3319319bafd3df --> Not in the blockchain

TA e1238453753dfba0a55bd7365ef7b231fa56b27aea383a810ec8e5e5bb014abe
has 1 input:
TA1. dd1a611ebe28bead424620e395c1e61130e98e468c43f750dfadeef6ab6739ce which is in the Blockchain (16.090234 BTC)

TD 308732ce601c5b029d71f55786b7e4236b872da0d866a6e49c3319319bafd3df
has 1 input:
TD1. 033a6b55dc8df532b007e19a630ef785518999660c01bb8fc864b112278f9b01 which is in the Blockchain (12.274 BTC)

However both TA1 AND TD1 have already been spend in another transaction.
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/57438804/dd1a611ebe28bead424620e395c1e61130e98e468c43f750dfadeef6ab6739ce
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/57442378/033a6b55dc8df532b007e19a630ef785518999660c01bb8fc864b112278f9b01

So none of these transactions are ever going to confirm (you are trying to spend funds which are alreay spend). I ran into something odd. TB and TC from above show that in the following addresses reside:

1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj http://blockchain.info/address/1CVX2A8dEPJnV62ey7kEuoNhuAUKvJrDLj 10.023 BTC
1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY http://blockchain.info/address/1LkJVtqoVLKKMsUFrCLnqZ8Vxfmnjs8MSY 15.889734 BTC

So then I traversed the spend inputs (TA1 and TD1) and found that they are indeed the inputs of TB and TC! Yes the rejected transaction was trying to turn 25.912734 BTC into 54.276968 BTC via some weird circular transaction.

•   I have no idea how he accomplished this
•   It turns out he had 25.912734 BTC instead of 50 BTC
•   So I let him export the private key for the addresses he owned that had his Bitcoins, create a new wallet and import these keys
•   This fixed everything and the gained access to his 25.912734 BTC once more!

Chapter 2:

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Now, I have another small problem. Yesterday I decided to move my remaining 13-something BTC from the old wallet to a new one created in Armory. Unfortunately, that transaction hasn't confirmed yet, so I have 13.612 more BTC in limbo somewhere. Can you help me find them? I promise I'll do nothing else after that lol

The transaction details are:
Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 8/03/2013 14:43
To: 17hzeZ8gKwLAHASyh85S5FSNYAFsexPAyk
Debit: -13.612 BTC
Net amount: -13.612 BTC
Transaction ID: 3ea177ce0db93b9bbbdc2286f5ca08e038a364db704205250d253d704a67d6a1

This time his tx had 27! Inputs (see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148511.msg1609449#msg1609449 for the raw transaction)
I went through this, but because this is a lot of work by hand I only clicked through to the large balances

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Wow, you keep making these more complicate. 27 inputs this time! This is a real mess.

It fails because it is trying to double spend again namely:

1H2yyTj7vFxJP3x97rVVXAXnTW23gaEVQ1 - (Spent) 0.48875 BTC

AND because it is trying to use http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/txlist/#a98c289b3ed5f2dc93296c7fdcde2865e382293b8ad54d3daa81d924e06b112a which is the weirdest transaction because it using the same input twice in it's input. Wonder why the network rejected it?

Doing anything with this was actually a lot of work because of the many inputs. I went through all your unspent inputs and saved every one that was over 1 bitcent. You can export and import them the same way as you did for the other addresses (so export the private key and import it in the other wallet). (You have roughly 9.5 BTC)

1Pznojb55KKnca216FP497DSD1qRC25Jr - (Unspent) 0.48875 BTC
18RzzcpoUhgPFUKhw9xS3DWfzdtcqRVr3a - (Unspent) 2.4011176 BTC
14jS8V98j3dAXEjoUZMJYJ5YRL5uqXGQYf - (Unspent) 0.048174 BTC
1EocsyNb5JXfHTJFnS7U2dMPbvfhREqCxL - (Unspent) 1.6005784 BTC
1Q1ax772H3kxWkKr3V4RjzJC1Tt9ZV6Wog - (Unspent) 0.1495392 BTC
16KqV5iN4afAyz5K9NQLGHrV3WRSoyisja - (Unspent) 0.1001544 BTC
1HHZUXzrXxsuYFie5zkRkjyLWF6SEL6NmK - (Unspent) 0.72359 BTC
1K3dZ2Bynas9ZyAMS3zsGm97ahCTEetZXx - (Unspent) 0.013848 BTC
133r7YFYeppNXcPdH4V3aYjkNBgpK13cQi - (Unspent) 2.000848 BTC
15LS9PzkcDbHshfUSiQTHkEGU3xHatNNLo - (Unspent) 0.8010392 BTC
13Em2vyhUGX3Yh75vfFcfKdsE946YXPDsV - (Unspent) 1.2003088 BTC
1Bw2fSWU3TRFga9fvFPJrizhNNQPqm6nPV - (Unspent) 0.010008 BTC

When he responded that he was bummed out by “losing” 3.82 BTC I told him to ask you what the hell is going on because this is just plain weird.


Title: Re: Where or where have my bitcoins gone?
Post by: wachtwoord on March 28, 2013, 09:42:35 PM

Am I correct in assuming I should be doing this with the wallet from which I sent the 13.612 BTC?


Yes. This wallet should have the private keys to those addresses because otherwise I can never have signed the transaction.