Title: 3 Phase and ATX PSU'S? Post by: Signedbyme on May 31, 2016, 04:01:27 AM Hi there
I am currently starting to change my small farm to 240 from 120!! I was just wondering if ATX PSU's accept 3 phase 240? If it is product specific than could someone tell me where to look. I have a bunch of different PSU's sooooooo... Ps. its a dedicated 50 amp. With 6 gauge wire and 5 20 amp receptacles Thanks Chris Title: Re: 3 Phase and ATX PSU'S? Post by: QuintLeo on May 31, 2016, 07:48:03 AM I have never seen an ATX-type power supply that even THOUGHT about using 3-phase power directly.
I doubt they exist - 3-phase isn't needed 'till you get into the MANY-KILOWATT range on electrical gea, a standard common 20amp 220 circuit is good for 4 KW after all and higher power 220 circuits aren't UNcommon (ref some electric stoves, some commercial electric driers, and RV-type connections, for a few examples of 30+ amp 220 plug-in circuits). For that matter, mobile homes used to COMMONLY use a 50 amp 220v plug-in connection (often set up 2 on one pole feeding from one common meter with a 100 amp feedline, the second circuit usually intended for a utility outbuilding, workshop, etc). Those hookups are no longer permitted under the US NEC, but they're allowed on a "grandfathered" clause for existing setups in most locations. Title: Re: 3 Phase and ATX PSU'S? Post by: Signedbyme on May 31, 2016, 06:01:11 PM OK well SHITTT. The power line is coming from a old hot tub. How could i change the breaker from 3 phase 240 to single phase 240? If its to hard to do may just hire some one >:( >:(
Thanks for the response Title: Re: 3 Phase and ATX PSU'S? Post by: DarkStarPDX on May 31, 2016, 08:28:38 PM If you have standard three-phase already (4-wire wye) and power supplies that support 208 volts, you should be able to use L1 & L2, L2 & L3, or L1 & L3 to the power supply. If you have a three-phase delta (480 volts), you'll need a step-down transformer to 240 volts (or 120 volts).
Most power supplies support a range of voltages, for example one I have here is 110-120 volts & 200-240 volts compatible. Others I've seen are 100-250 volts. Feel free to post the power supply make & model and we should be able to figure it out. Title: Re: 3 Phase and ATX PSU'S? Post by: Signedbyme on May 31, 2016, 08:50:32 PM As you all can tell i am a noob at electrical wiring. The hot tub has 4 wires coming in. as i can see it is 2 hots a neutral and a ground. I figured it was 3 phase because that's what my DAD said ( Im only 14). But after looking i believe that it is single phase 240 with 2 hots and 1 ground, the neutral in for any 120 systems in the tub. Please let me know if i am missing something.
THANKS!! Title: Re: 3 Phase and ATX PSU'S? Post by: notlist3d on May 31, 2016, 09:22:07 PM As you all can tell i am a noob at electrical wiring. The hot tub has 4 wires coming in. as i can see it is 2 hots a neutral and a ground. I figured it was 3 phase because that's what my DAD said ( Im only 14). But after looking i believe that it is single phase 240 with 2 hots and 1 ground, the neutral in for any 120 systems in the tub. Please let me know if i am missing something. THANKS!! My advice is be careful and have your dad help you looking at it. When I hear 14 and looking at electrical .... makes me a little worried. But again I would get your dad to help make sure it's not live so when looking at it you are not in danger. Do you have a picture of outlet? Or is it just wires ran from electrical box? Also a picture of breaker might help. But again get your dad to help during this. Title: Re: 3 Phase and ATX PSU'S? Post by: Signedbyme on May 31, 2016, 11:52:32 PM As you all can tell i am a noob at electrical wiring. The hot tub has 4 wires coming in. as i can see it is 2 hots a neutral and a ground. I figured it was 3 phase because that's what my DAD said ( Im only 14). But after looking i believe that it is single phase 240 with 2 hots and 1 ground, the neutral in for any 120 systems in the tub. Please let me know if i am missing something. THANKS!! My advice is be careful and have your dad help you looking at it. When I hear 14 and looking at electrical .... makes me a little worried. But again I would get your dad to help make sure it's not live so when looking at it you are not in danger. Do you have a picture of outlet? Or is it just wires ran from electrical box? Also a picture of breaker might help. But again get your dad to help during this. Yea sure i understand that 14 is young to be working with 50 amps of 240 but as always the breaker is off and double check at the tub. ( My dad is very supportive and all about safety ). It is just wires coming out of the ground. 4 wires 3 connected ( 2 hots and a ground ) 1 unconnected neutral i think. http://imgur.com/a/Upm9Y (It wont show up because of account rank!! CLICK THE LINKS!!) It may be unclear but the wire all the way to the right is not connected and i think its the neutral!! Title: Re: 3 Phase and ATX PSU'S? Post by: DarkStarPDX on June 01, 2016, 04:24:21 PM Based on that breaker and wiring configuration, it is a single-phase 240 volt connection. A three-phase breaker has 3 distinct sections.
The unconnected wire is (as you suspect) your neutral line. If a device operates as a single 240 volt device, neutral isn't used. If a device operates as "two" 120 volt devices, neutral is used. So, if you have a power supply that supports a 240 volt connection, you can connect one hot to one input, the other hot to the other input, ground to ground, and you should be good to go! Title: Re: 3 Phase and ATX PSU'S? Post by: Signedbyme on June 01, 2016, 05:24:18 PM Thanks to every one who helped me and have answers.
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