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Title: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: BuWICK on June 01, 2016, 12:39:29 PM
I have been told that each of these currencies are mere clones of Ethereum... but there are others that say Lisk is far superior to Ethereum due to it's ease of use for hackers and developers.

Others say Rise is superior due to security implementations.
What are your opinions on this?


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: tokeweed on June 01, 2016, 12:51:16 PM
Good thread.  But shouldn't there be a certain criteria on how to label one platform as superior vs the other?  Like usability, reliability, GUI, etc.. etc.. in order to avoid another mudslinging thread.

Also I think it's safe to remove 'The DAO' in that list since it's a DAO running inside of Ethereum. 


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: balu2 on June 01, 2016, 01:16:19 PM
BTC is superior because it's the only one longterm viable. All your hyped shitcoins are vapourware and will die off due to technical difficulties that can't be overcome.


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: Hollowman338 on June 01, 2016, 01:20:57 PM
I have a stake in all of them with the exception of RISE (scam in my opinion)


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: Spoetnik on June 01, 2016, 01:40:40 PM
Which is the superior PYRAMID SCHEME SCAM ?

Who fucking cares.. ::)

Want money then get a job at McDonalds kidiots.

Let's recap shall we Investards..
How do you get scammy ICO coins ?
You have to go to the bank and take out FIAT cash money $$$ then go buy them..
This combined with other points such as no regulations or laws like in the real stock market
make all these scammy ICO coins unfair and and far too risky for a sensible person.

You guys are scammy idiots who need to GTFO out of my Crypto scene.

LEAVE .


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: BuWICK on June 01, 2016, 01:43:01 PM
BTC is superior because it's the only one longterm viable. All your hyped shitcoins are vapourware and will die off due to technical difficulties that can't be overcome.

And what are these technical difficulties that you speak of? You can't be suggesting that Ethereum has technical difficulties?


WAVES

What makes waves different from ethereum, lisk or rise?


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: balu2 on June 01, 2016, 02:05:17 PM


And what are these technical difficulties that you speak of? You can't be suggesting that Ethereum has technical difficulties?




ETH will die from an inflated blockchain later in any case. In case the POS does even work. Why do you think all the POS coins have lost so much in the past months? Because POS is working fine and is the future or what? Nope, POS is broken and ETH will be broken too.
Also it suffers from centralisation in more than one aspect.
The DAO will die off due to human error.
All this may take several months or even years to come to the surface in full bloom, but it will.
You have been warned.

It actually looks an awful lot like a pyramid sheme. But none of my business, what you're doing with your $$$. 


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: BuWICK on June 01, 2016, 02:19:55 PM
Currently Ethereum is leading with 50% of the vote. Second is Waves, with 30% of the vote.

The last time I checked, Waves was just your typical, run of the mill clone coin.

Are you guys that are voting for waves just a bunch of fanboys or do you have some reasoning, facts and figures as to why you think Waves is in the same league as Ethereum?


 


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: RoommateAgreement on June 01, 2016, 03:06:13 PM
Currently Ethereum is leading with 50% of the vote. Second is Waves, with 30% of the vote.

The last time I checked, Waves was just your typical, run of the mill clone coin.

Are you guys that are voting for waves just a bunch of fanboys or do you have some reasoning, facts and figures as to why you think Waves is in the same league as Ethereum?

4 votes and 5 votes doesn't show anything at all.
it only prooves that some random people saw the poll and clicked on something.


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: Marvell1 on June 01, 2016, 03:25:05 PM


And what are these technical difficulties that you speak of? You can't be suggesting that Ethereum has technical difficulties?




ETH will die from an inflated blockchain later in any case. In case the POS does even work. Why do you think all the POS coins have lost so much in the past months? Because POS is working fine and is the future or what? Nope, POS is broken and ETH will be broken too.
Also it suffers from centralisation in more than one aspect.
The DAO will die off due to human error.
All this may take several months or even years to come to the surface in full bloom, but it will.
You have been warned.

It actually looks an awful lot like a pyramid sheme. But none of my business, what you're doing with your $$$. 

Eth devs are smarter than that they have a solid testnet and the ability to delay POS as long as it takes to get it right.  Your comment is way off
There are reasons to dislike the Eth platform but the POTENTIAL move to pos is not one of them.


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: balu2 on June 01, 2016, 03:29:00 PM
You guys buy the zimbabwe-coin, alright  ;D

Zimbabwe-coin is superior, they said. Buy zimbabwe-coin, they said.  :D


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: glerant on June 01, 2016, 04:01:15 PM
Waves have a clear start after their wildly successful crowd-sale.

They also have huge development resources and can learn a lot from the Etherium adventure.


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: balu2 on June 01, 2016, 04:02:03 PM
Waves have a clear start after their wildly successful crowd-sale.

They also have huge development resources and can learn a lot from the Etherium adventure.

wildly successful selfbuy?


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: r0ach on June 01, 2016, 04:03:27 PM
You named a bunch of IPO scamcoins and then asked which is superior?  The only purpose of any of those is:

https://i.imgur.com/bWL1jfM.jpg


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: BuWICK on June 01, 2016, 04:04:47 PM
Oh and by the way, which one of these guys have actually released working code other than Ethereum?


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: BitcoiNaked on June 01, 2016, 04:18:40 PM
Which is the superior PYRAMID SCHEME SCAM ?

Who fucking cares.. ::)

Want money then get a job at McDonalds kidiots.

Let's recap shall we Investards..
How do you get scammy ICO coins ?
You have to go to the bank and take out FIAT cash money $$$ then go buy them..
This combined with other points such as no regulations or laws like in the real stock market
make all these scammy ICO coins unfair and and far too risky for a sensible person.

You guys are scammy idiots who need to GTFO out of my Crypto scene.

LEAVE .

Shut your fcking mouth you poor faggot, you dont have money to invest, butthurt FUCK.


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: balu2 on June 01, 2016, 04:34:29 PM


Shut your fcking mouth you poor faggot, you dont have money to invest, butthurt FUCK.

http://static.squarespace.com/static/519e9748e4b048f9f832e39e/t/51d23400e4b0d519d0c0473e/1372730369119/escalated%20quickly.jpg?format=original


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: BuWICK on June 01, 2016, 05:16:39 PM
Rise only has one vote, does this mean that there is an untapped route towards profit there?


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: BitcoinNational on June 01, 2016, 05:44:35 PM
BTC is superior because it's the only one longterm viable. All your hyped shitcoins are vapourware and will die off due to technical difficulties that can't be overcome.

LOL

das da TRUTH


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: KhalDrago on June 01, 2016, 06:04:43 PM
WAVES
What makes waves different from ethereum, lisk or rise?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eiv93mM_rE&t=13m0s


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: Spoetnik on June 01, 2016, 06:10:52 PM
Which is the superior PYRAMID SCHEME SCAM ?

Who fucking cares.. ::)

Want money then get a job at McDonalds kidiots.

Let's recap shall we Investards..
How do you get scammy ICO coins ?
You have to go to the bank and take out FIAT cash money $$$ then go buy them..
This combined with other points such as no regulations or laws like in the real stock market
make all these scammy ICO coins unfair and and far too risky for a sensible person.

You guys are scammy idiots who need to GTFO out of my Crypto scene.

LEAVE .

Shut your fcking mouth you poor faggot, you dont have money to invest, butthurt FUCK.

HAVING money is NOT the point is it ?

When i started i knew there was no damn way in hell i was going
to go to my bank to withdraw cash fiat money $$$ to BUY Bitcoins
in order to buy shitcoins..

And i have said all along since day one those of you that do that are pathetic little fucking idiots.
When it got big in late 2013 i seen on average once per minute some noob ask
"how do i get money from my bank to Cryptsy" on their Troll Box .. all day & all night !
And i laughed and said that is sad & pathetic.
Us older guys largely did not "BUY" our coins.. we mostly mined them etc.
You pathetic losers who showed up late begging for profits like little "Twig Collectors" <-- Google it ;)
Got it wrong big time..

Crypto is not about Buying scammy ICO "tokens" with FIAT for the purpose of trying to profit off of a digital token Pyramid scheme.. which is what ICO coins are !
Calling me a fag does not make your retard pathetic SCAM Coin legit.

You guys and your ICO scam coins are pathetic and you need to GTFO out of my Crypto scene.
In your place i would like to warmly welcome sincere & genuine "Supporters" of Crypto Currencies.
I encourage them to join us all and yes even make money too !

The rest of you should be banned.
Stop posting scams like the so called ICO "coins" in the Poll here.
They are NOT crypto currencies and this forum is for CURRENCIES.
Do you know what a CURRENCY is ?
I will tell you my little ICO scam coin profiteers.. it's what you use to buy your pathetic scammy ICO coins with.
AKA: Fiat ..the mighty dollar cash money $$$

Ya wow eh ? Shocked ?
Someone ACTUALLY talking about a C U R R E N C Y ?

I can just imagine the confusion of the little brat kidiots reading this..
LEIK OMGWTF BBQ!!!1 What tiz a Cuurrenceez ??

Scam it up Investards and see what it gets you.. the outcome is rather predictable (if you're not a fucking idiot)

PS:
Hey mouthy -NOOB- ..you will be the one who is butthurt when i am done with you.
Unlike you pathetic losers i have made far more than you with out supporting scam coins.
I already won and made plenty of money douche bags..
And i did by trading legit Currencies not ICO scam tokens.
You see pathetic losers i have TRADE skills while you do not.
When you losers have no skill at trading you have no other way to profit except to leech off of ICO's
You are fucking pathetic losers period .

Know what league your in scammy greedy pathetic loser douche bags.


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: sinner on June 01, 2016, 06:11:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eiv93mM_rE&t=13m0s

heh, i would have posted this video if i were trying to convince someone to not buy waves.

at a certain point (like we saw with DAO), an ICO can raise too much relative to its potential, which results in sub-ICO prices.  i think waves is gonna be close.  kind of hilarious that sasha said they will use ICO money to form a buywall at ICO price and below looooooool.


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: Hermanny on June 01, 2016, 06:16:44 PM
I voted Eth as it is the only one know :)

These others are just clones, right?


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: d5000 on June 02, 2016, 12:05:21 PM
It's important to point out that the platforms are very different.

- Ethereum and Crypti/Lisk/Rise are Smart Contract platforms
- Waves is a coloured coins platform for asset trading (like NXT or Bitshares)
- DAO is an Ethereum asset.

I think only Ethereum and Lisk can be compared because they target the same market. Crypti, Lisk and Rise are based on the same platform, so they should be pretty similar. The difference seems to be mainly that Ethereum is based on PoW and the Crypti/Lisk/Rise family on DPOS.



Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: Bl4ckw00d on June 02, 2016, 08:39:53 PM
Each one of these coins holds a bit of a different place in the market.  It won't be for several months or even a year down the road until we see if there is a place in the market for all of them or if only a couple remain.

 Each have their niche benefits and appeal to a wider or smaller market of people.  They have rolled out one after the other attempting to either fix or cover something that they feel the last hasn't done correctly or could have done better.

 As a result we now have these 4-5 platforms coming together all different, but all kind of the same.  Only time will tell IMO


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: Spoetnik on June 03, 2016, 08:29:10 AM
It's important to point out that the platforms are very different.

- Ethereum and Crypti/Lisk/Rise are Smart Contract platforms
- Waves is a coloured coins platform for asset trading (like NXT or Bitshares)
- DAO is an Ethereum asset.

I think only Ethereum and Lisk can be compared because they target the same market. Crypti, Lisk and Rise are based on the same platform, so they should be pretty similar. The difference seems to be mainly that Ethereum is based on PoW and the Crypti/Lisk/Rise family on DPOS.



In other words none of them are a currency.

Kind of important to "point out"  8)

PS:
They were all also launched in scammy way too.. ICO/IPO

What more would you need to know ?
Let me guess.. how much money will i make ?  ::)


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: catcoinminer on June 03, 2016, 01:59:30 PM
I want you to add "None of the above"  to the above list. Which makes sense and let us know how many still want something more than these offer.


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: Lisk-investor on June 03, 2016, 03:18:22 PM
Lisk


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: M0ndialu on June 03, 2016, 06:25:07 PM
RISE !! It has great potential  ;)


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: koljan01041977 on June 27, 2016, 12:51:20 PM
It's important to point out that the platforms are very different.

- Ethereum and Crypti/Lisk/Rise are Smart Contract platforms
- Waves is a coloured coins platform for asset trading (like NXT or Bitshares)
- DAO is an Ethereum asset.

I think only Ethereum and Lisk can be compared because they target the same market. Crypti, Lisk and Rise are based on the same platform, so they should be pretty similar. The difference seems to be mainly that Ethereum is based on PoW and the Crypti/Lisk/Rise family on DPOS.



In other words none of them are a currency.

Kind of important to "point out"  8)

PS:
They were all also launched in scammy way too.. ICO/IPO

What more would you need to know ?
Let me guess.. how much money will i make ?  ::)
whether a big rise Riss, or is it hype will pass on this currency?


Title: Re: [POLL] Ethereum, Lisk, Rise, Waves, DAO | Which is the SUPERIOR platform?
Post by: iamnotback on June 27, 2016, 06:23:39 PM
The poll reflects who invested in which. Has nothing to do with the actual technology.