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Title: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: JasonXG on June 01, 2016, 11:08:06 PM
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In have recently partaken on many PTC sites so far. While then good ones make money for you , you never really know how long they will be around. PTC is starting to feel like HYIP which some say I like gambling. The amount you can lose with PTC sites is either your invested money or time or both. Its not nice waiting to see if your payou is gonna go through or not. Has anyone else found this to be the case with PTC or any other money making sites ?


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: ingiltere on June 02, 2016, 01:34:04 AM
You mean paid-to-click sites as PTC? It's not gambling, it's just a waste of time. If you are talking about buying referral and all, that shit is ponzi. There's no real referrals, all of them are bots. You can't even make ROI in most of the PTC sites. There are better things to earn money in the internet.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: JasonXG on June 02, 2016, 02:15:19 AM
You mean paid-to-click sites as PTC? It's not gambling, it's just a waste of time. If you are talking about buying referral and all, that shit is ponzi. There's no real referrals, all of them are bots. You can't even make ROI in most of the PTC sites. There are better things to earn money in the internet.

That's exactly the answer i was afraid of. I thought because they started adding btc that payments would go faster but do my dismay they didn't. There a few legit sites but not really enough I guess. Or they psy for a short time then stop, which is why they make me think of how HYIPs are run. Its the same scam the rest is just decoration. I rate if we start popping some knee caps things would change. But that would be wrong  ;D


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: ingiltere on June 02, 2016, 02:19:38 AM
They are ponzis, not different from hyips. You know in the end you'll lose your money. If you try to tell these in their forums they'll ban you immediately. Try to write something bad about Neobux in their forums and see what happens. Even if you are a Premium user you'll end up getting banned and all your money, puff, lost.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: fullypak on June 02, 2016, 02:46:49 AM
They are ponzis, not different from hyips. You know in the end you'll lose your money. If you try to tell these in their forums they'll ban you immediately. Try to write something bad about Neobux in their forums and see what happens. Even if you are a Premium user you'll end up getting banned and all your money, puff, lost.

I never used these sites but yes these are completely a Ponzi nature business and anytime they can scam you. So don't waste time to find which one is trusted and which is not, just avoid these sites and move on to something worthful to spend your time. Their payouts are not even worth to pay your electricity bills for the time spend on those sites in some countries.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: futurebit640 on June 02, 2016, 03:09:56 AM
You mean paid-to-click sites as PTC? It's not gambling, it's just a waste of time. If you are talking about buying referral and all, that shit is ponzi. There's no real referrals, all of them are bots. You can't even make ROI in most of the PTC sites. There are better things to earn money in the internet.

That is true. These ptc sites are a complete waste of our time and most of these site admins don't want to pay to users and they will look for the opportunity to cheat the players and investors. As you said, one should find some better ways to earn more money for their time spend on the internet like join some signature campaign on this forum and you can earn surely more than what these ptc sites are paying.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: ravens on June 02, 2016, 03:22:58 AM
Nah, there's no RNG and provably fair involved in PTC therefore, this PTCs aren't gambling.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: pooya87 on June 02, 2016, 03:28:56 AM
PTC or paid to clicks are not gambling, you should first of all use the one that is good and has been around for a while like btcclicks and also you should know that they are not going to make you rich even if you invest money and buy refs the site will give you fake ones who click in a controlled fashion so you earn little doesn't matter what they say about them being real they are not.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: tsaroz on June 02, 2016, 03:43:22 AM
Paid to Click sites are not necessarily HYIP. There is a blur line between a PTC, so called revenue sharing and High yield investment program. But there are some real PTC that has been paying its users without any issue for years. Personally, PTC are my major source of bitcoins.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: upsidedown75 on June 02, 2016, 05:39:59 AM
Simply you can compare PTC sites into faucet earning. With a faucet earning you may like to work with the belief of bitcoin's price appreciation. But there is no chances for anything like that with the PTC sites.

If you are investing into a PTC sites then you can compare them with gambling. As most of the PTC (Bux) sites just last for few days to week.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: NewBet on June 02, 2016, 06:50:27 AM
I once think that I could be rich with PTC , but after a few months testing , it getting worst and worst
Most of PTC sites didn't payed and I reliased it's just a ponzi , how could someone be rich by just clicking ads
Yes , it's like a gambling.  You basically glambing your time and money ( if you do invested ) , Admin is like a House and we are know that we could never beat the house.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: davis196 on June 02, 2016, 07:15:59 AM
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In have recently partaken on many PTC sites so far. While then good ones make money for you , you never really know how long they will be around. PTC is starting to feel like HYIP which some say I like gambling. The amount you can lose with PTC sites is either your invested money or time or both. Its not nice waiting to see if your payou is gonna go through or not. Has anyone else found this to be the case with PTC or any other money making sites ?

PTC is a waste of time and money.There is a PTC site called paidverts (i`m not promoting it) where you can

earn BAP points by clicking ads and then gamble the BAP points by playing different games.They even have

texas hold`em poker.It`s a PTC site,but it looks kinda like an online casino.

Every time i lose all my BAPs so it`s a waste of time.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: rio3233 on June 02, 2016, 07:22:43 AM
Nope. For me, Pay To Click (PTC) is like an investment but for getting profit it will took a long time and PTC it's not gambling, why it's called gambling though lol.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: deadlyunknown on June 02, 2016, 08:00:22 AM
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In have recently partaken on many PTC sites so far. While then good ones make money for you , you never really know how long they will be around. PTC is starting to feel like HYIP which some say I like gambling. The amount you can lose with PTC sites is either your invested money or time or both. Its not nice waiting to see if your payou is gonna go through or not. Has anyone else found this to be the case with PTC or any other money making sites ?

Actually, your money is not at stake, it's your time. PTC sites run advertisements and that is their source of income. It is actually related to bitcoin faucets, but unlike PTC, faucets are much simpler to do.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: npredtorch on June 02, 2016, 08:14:25 AM
PTC will not be equal as gambling since it does not require users to deposit funds to start on. PTC only accepts payment for upgrading account, renting referrals and etc. which is purely users-decision based unlike with gambling.

The mere fact in PTC is that you can't earn enough. Only people with high numbers of direct referrals are those often winning the game.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: Caladonian on June 02, 2016, 08:18:07 AM
the only relevant for me is just you are gambling your time with something that you are not sure if you can gain back in return ptc is just a waste of time if you can't have many ref and if you cant upgrade, ptc waste of time, while gambling waste of money , something in common, needs extra time to earn.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: Klippers on June 02, 2016, 08:30:07 AM
I used to work on this kind of  job to be honest this kind of work is a big waste of time and efforts. The way to earn to this kind of crap is to have active direct referrals under your link to click for you,worst!.



Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: BTCLovingDude on June 02, 2016, 09:02:19 AM
PTC (paid to click) services are not gambling because there is not risk involved. you just click on ads daily and get paid to do it.

but this doesn't mean it is a good way of earning money though. because it is bad. of course you can gather some direct referrals but that is not enough to make good money.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: Klippers on June 02, 2016, 09:05:14 AM
PTC (paid to click) services are not gambling because there is not risk involved. you just click on ads daily and get paid to do it.

but this doesn't mean it is a good way of earning money though. because it is bad. of course you can gather some direct referrals but that is not enough to make good money.

Paid to click is a gambling also if you invest into their site, it's a big risk you don't know when will collapse or it will stay strong like some legits paid to lick sites such as neobux and clixsense.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: rickadone on June 02, 2016, 09:17:59 AM
As long as you are using PTC sites as a free member, you need not to consider it as gambling.
But when you are planning up for any paid memberships or renting in referrals then you are gambling start playing around you in the form of gambling.

Still I need to mention here, there are some honest PTC sites with reasonable price for membership to get you more earning with them.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: jjc326 on June 02, 2016, 10:06:10 AM
It dipends on which PTC you "waste" your time! There are serious PTC, with a story of many years, which pay less but constantly. Sometimes born PTCs that are more similiar to a ponzy than a real paid to click site. Probably if you mean this kind of PTC then PTC=Gambling


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: Cyaren on June 02, 2016, 10:08:03 AM
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In have recently partaken on many PTC sites so far. While then good ones make money for you , you never really know how long they will be around. PTC is starting to feel like HYIP which some say I like gambling. The amount you can lose with PTC sites is either your invested money or time or both. Its not nice waiting to see if your payou is gonna go through or not. Has anyone else found this to be the case with PTC or any other money making sites ?

Yes, some of the PTCs indeed are HYIPs or ponzi schemes blatantly. In my opinion, however established one PTC site might be, if they have the feature of renting referrals, then they are a ponzi scheme.

A true PTC site would not let you rent referrals, because it would not bring anything into the owner's hands. It's basically a way to hide a ponzi scheme.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: RoommateAgreement on June 02, 2016, 10:11:54 AM
this is really an strange question.

i thought PTC was something new but reading the comments i realize it is the good old pay to click system.

but i still don't understand why should you even consider it as gambling? it is more like and investment.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: xuan87 on June 02, 2016, 11:03:31 AM
Ptc is almost same as faucet is not the same as gambling, if you put money in ptc is more like investing in hyip not gambling


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: marioantonini on June 02, 2016, 11:40:04 AM
for me ptc site is only when i can earn a little amount of satoshi and not how i can get lose money.
i have see in the past more ptc with "investmet" but is ponzi/hyip, not ptc .

for example ptc for bitcoin is bitvisitor, but you can earn very low amount


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: JasonXG on June 02, 2016, 11:49:09 AM
Well you ment to get referrals in PTC to increase earnings. It is a sound model but I'm afraid most PTC sites of you look at the amount it costs to put ads there compared to how much you earn clicking them it often doesn't ad up. How can you give $0.005 buy charge $0.001

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In have recently partaken on many PTC sites so far. While then good ones make money for you , you never really know how long they will be around. PTC is starting to feel like HYIP which some say I like gambling. The amount you can lose with PTC sites is either your invested money or time or both. Its not nice waiting to see if your payou is gonna go through or not. Has anyone else found this to be the case with PTC or any other money making sites ?

PTC is a waste of time and money.There is a PTC site called paidverts (i`m not promoting it) where you can

earn BAP points by clicking ads and then gamble the BAP points by playing different games.They even have

texas hold`em poker.It`s a PTC site,but it looks kinda like an online casino.

Every time i lose all my BAPs so it`s a waste of time.

Yes I'm on that site. Its a good site.
Simply you can compare PTC sites into faucet earning. With a faucet earning you may like to work with the belief of bitcoin's price appreciation. But there is no chances for anything like that with the PTC sites.

If you are investing into a PTC sites then you can compare them with gambling. As most of the PTC (Bux) sites just last for few days to week.

Yes I have noticed most don't last long. Some only a few days even. I think its because its so easy to buy a script. I even saw an added feature where you could sell fake refferals using the script.

this is really an strange question.

i thought PTC was something new but reading the comments i realize it is the good old pay to click system.

but i still don't understand why should you even consider it as gambling? it is more like and investment.

Because you taking a game on weither or not the site will past long or not. Or simply run with you money.



Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: Raja_MBZ on June 02, 2016, 11:57:35 AM
I've spent (or maybe the word "wasted" would more suit here) like 7 years with PTC clicking. I own a GPT website too, which has been paying successfully since 2011, but didn't invest like even a 500 hundred dollars on it's advertising, so very less active.

In PTC, there are NOT much chances of losing the whole website, like there are in HYIP's or Ponzis. A website stays online, at least for a while, unlike HYIP's. As a free member, click on NeoBux, ClixSense, PtcX, Scarlet-Clicks, Clixten, etc. and you will not be scammed. You will earn very little, but the chances of losing of the earned earnings are like 10-90.

IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON RENTING REFERRALS, this maybe a bad choice. You may not be able to recover your investment if you are not very "smart" in managing the referrals. 1 month back, I bought $30 worth of rented referrals at NeoBux, guess what? I haven't even earned $20 from them and their time is about to expire. So I lost this amount. Instead of renting referrals, the advertising of referral link of a stable website should be the priority. I know my friends and relatives earning from the PTC websites such as NeoBux & ClixSense like $100 daily, without doing anything at all now. They promoted the websites at very first, and now enjoying 7-tier referral earnings of different PTC programs.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: Red-Apple on June 02, 2016, 12:25:14 PM
PTC is worse than gambling, they have nothing in common though!

because you will end up losing both your time and money while doing a meaningless job of visiting websites which may even contain malicious code that can even infect your computer for the visit.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: erikalui on June 02, 2016, 12:49:29 PM
PTC or get-paid websites don't charge any money nor is it compulsory to invest in such sites. Many people choose to invest and get paid-membership with benefits but it's not worth to invest in new sites. There are many good paying sites like Neobux and Get-paid which have been online and paying for years but the pay is quite less. However, it cannot be compared to gambling websites.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: eternalgloom on June 02, 2016, 02:01:20 PM
They are ponzis, not different from hyips. You know in the end you'll lose your money. If you try to tell these in their forums they'll ban you immediately. Try to write something bad about Neobux in their forums and see what happens. Even if you are a Premium user you'll end up getting banned and all your money, puff, lost.
Not all ptc sites are ponzi's, though a lot of them probably are. I've seen some ptc sites that are most likely legit, but it always takes a very long time to reach payout and they also get some profit from offering paid offers aside from paid clicks.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: shadobitz on June 02, 2016, 02:07:06 PM
I think PTC sites are just waste of time because ROI is really slow there and there is possible chance very hard to get back initial investment if we go with brand new sites, overall we don't compare with gambling as some trusted PTC running their business from several years.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: Raimonn on June 02, 2016, 02:13:02 PM
I don't see the PTC sites as gambling, could be like a kind of faucets. Gambling is risk to loose, but also emotions to win big, with ptc you can earn few bits like faucets.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: mindrust on June 02, 2016, 02:14:28 PM
You can't make money with PTC sites. You make money only for the owner of the website. It is a total waste of time.

They are like faucets. There is just a little difference. While you make bits, the owner makes the real money out of your work.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: newcripto on June 02, 2016, 02:18:37 PM
There is no connection or similarity between pay per click sites the way those work and gambling.There are lot of sites which offers investment free ways to earn some money while gambling is totally different thing.Gambling is taking risk where you can loose your own money.Though both don't let you to win from them overall.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: patt0 on June 02, 2016, 02:35:03 PM
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In have recently partaken on many PTC sites so far. While then good ones make money for you , you never really know how long they will be around. PTC is starting to feel like HYIP which some say I like gambling. The amount you can lose with PTC sites is either your invested money or time or both. Its not nice waiting to see if your payou is gonna go through or not. Has anyone else found this to be the case with PTC or any other money making sites ?

I had a really good experience on neobux. I was around when the site open, start with risk free, saw things going well and decided to invest and buy my gold membership and some referrals. It was a great bet, because I only invested $50 on the site, and I was winning around $150 to $200 a month after a while. Anyway a lot of things changed and my profit went down and I could not maintain my account without investing again.
I choose not to invest again and let my account "die". The site is still working, but I never tried it again, so I can't say if you can still make profit from it.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: equator on June 02, 2016, 03:01:00 PM
First before knowing about this forum , i have wasted lot of time in this PTC Sites and was just earning in peanuts, until i came to know about this forum i gained lot of knowledge and got skilled and now earning good,. but cannot forget that days when working on PTC sites full time, and i feel that it was like gambling because in some sites use to get jackpot and earn some good sathosi


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: buddu on June 02, 2016, 03:06:13 PM
Pay per click has totally different concept and is not right to compare it with gambling.I personally think investing in pay per click is more dangerous and many times to remain without money as they turned into scam sites.Gambling is risky but playing own some reputable site at least they don't run with money.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: trafficolaa on June 02, 2016, 03:09:10 PM
I think PTC sites don't have any similarity with gambling because so many sites exist where we can make little money without any investment but earning from those are very low so that i think it is really bad idea to spend daily some time on these sites to make some cents.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: 2012 on June 02, 2016, 03:13:28 PM
I made little investment into a ptc site and purchased golden membership so that i think it like just do gambling because very hard to earn good profit.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: crairezx20 on June 02, 2016, 04:03:17 PM
IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON RENTING REFERRALS, this maybe a bad choice. You may not be able to recover your investment if you are not very "smart" in managing the referrals. 1 month back, I bought $30 worth of rented referrals at NeoBux, guess what? I haven't even earned $20 from them and their time is about to expire. So I lost this amount.

Yeah that renting referrals business at Neobux is complete bull, I somehow managed to get 20+ RRs from the clicking and tasking, but couldn't get any more than that since all the money I earned through RR I had to pay back for extending them, so in the end I just gave up. Waist of time like I said.
Already made those too i renting many times i have 50 refferal but never made a profit my referrals looks like my earnings are cash backs or sometimes lose.. better to don't expect in PTC better to gamble your money to have some fun..


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: Jasad on June 02, 2016, 05:19:42 PM
I made little investment into a ptc site and purchased golden membership so that i think it like just do gambling because very hard to earn good profit.
You should know that every investment almost just like Gambling,its same if we dont know what gonna happen next time,is our investment would be scamming us or our funds stolen, i suggest to hold bitcoin and trade it.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: amacar2 on June 02, 2016, 07:39:14 PM
I have lost lots of my money before in PTC with probux and zapbux like sites which seem to be very trusted as they were out there for 1-2 years but after that they ran away lots of them at same month. In this i lost around 800$ which have taken 1 year for me to earn.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: LTU_btc on June 02, 2016, 07:45:15 PM
I think PTC sites in some ways can be considered as gambling. For example, if you purchase expensive membership in very fresh PTC website, which opened few days ago, it's very big risk to not get ROI, because mostly of such websites closes only after few weeks, so invest in such PTC websites can be named as gambling, but for me it's more looks like similar as investing to HYIP's or ponz schemes.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: mrcash02 on June 02, 2016, 07:48:06 PM
PTC isn't like gambling. With gambling maybe you can make profit, with most PTC sites, no. They give you less than 1 cent daily.  :P

I didn't know that Neobux cheat users when they rent referrals, I thought that it was one of few legit PTCs. I'm not sure about that yet, I think if they are cheaters why so many people still use their service and are making money there?


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: naidray on June 02, 2016, 07:55:05 PM
PTC (paid to click) services are not gambling because there is not risk involved. you just click on ads daily and get paid to do it.

but this doesn't mean it is a good way of earning money though. because it is bad. of course you can gather some direct referrals but that is not enough to make good money.

Paid to click is a gambling also if you invest into their site, it's a big risk you don't know when will collapse or it will stay strong like some legits paid to lick sites such as neobux and clixsense.
Neobux and Clixsense are trusted sites and hence investing in them cannot be considered a risk or gambling. While other paid-to-click websites are like HYIPs where you can earn interest till the site doesn't turn scam.
Many invest in such sites as they manage to earn back their investment along with profit by having referrals.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: BlueStackz on June 03, 2016, 02:57:05 PM
They are ponzis, not different from hyips. You know in the end you'll lose your money. If you try to tell these in their forums they'll ban you immediately. Try to write something bad about Neobux in their forums and see what happens. Even if you are a Premium user you'll end up getting banned and all your money, puff, lost.
Not all ptc sites are ponzi's, though a lot of them probably are. I've seen some ptc sites that are most likely legit, but it always takes a very long time to reach payout and they also get some profit from offering paid offers aside from paid clicks.
It's mainly with new paid to clcik websites that have attractive returns and packages so that people invest their money and then when they earn profit, they just go offline. Many of these websites don't even have a domain registration of a year.

Some websites do last for 6 months and hence they are trusted but it's better not to invest in such sites and not pay referrals to click ads. Only get-paid sites are mainly trustworthy which have a low payout of $0.5 and their offers are high paying.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: isen on June 03, 2016, 03:33:07 PM
Not gambing  but a waste of time for sure,use them only if you can get enough free referrals to click for you or if you are able to do tasks and complete offers,otherwise stay away.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: lixer on June 04, 2016, 07:43:12 AM
I have been a part of many ptc websites and mainly all are low paying. It's good only to join sites with a minimum payout of $1 or less and you are able to earn $0.05-$0.1 without referrals.

Then it's possible to reach the minimum payout in 10 days and it takes barely 10-15 minutes per day.
With referrals, the earning also increases and many users just buy referrals offering an RCB. It's better than having a paid membership with any of these ptc websites.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: Klippers on June 04, 2016, 08:35:48 AM
Not gambing  but a waste of time for sure,use them only if you can get enough free referrals to click for you or if you are able to do tasks and complete offers,otherwise stay away.

If you invested in the site of paid to click it's a risk so it's gambling but if you don't invested anything or maybe you're a free member then, as you said it's just a waste of time. Better to stay away from this paid to click site it's will cost of your time literally.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: redsun114 on June 04, 2016, 03:29:04 PM
PTC = HYIP.
I've myself lost $15 by buying a package on a ptcgen website that turned scam after being online for 6 months.
I earned a lot initially but just managed to earn back my investment without any profit and hence it was a total waste for me.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: Raja_MBZ on June 06, 2016, 12:56:29 PM
PTC = HYIP.
I've myself lost $15 by buying a package on a ptcgen website that turned scam after being online for 6 months.
I earned a lot initially but just managed to earn back my investment without any profit and hence it was a total waste for me.

Just because you lost money from one of the PTC websites, it doesn't make the whole PTC industry a HYIP. It was your bad selection, there are still many PTC websites as I said earlier which won't scam you, ClixSense, NeoBux, etc. But, would definitely at some point you'll feel that you are wasting your time.

Again I'd say, very smart people can live their luxurious living with PTC websites. I know the names of few.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: cluit on June 07, 2016, 08:17:50 PM
PTC = HYIP.
I've myself lost $15 by buying a package on a ptcgen website that turned scam after being online for 6 months.
I earned a lot initially but just managed to earn back my investment without any profit and hence it was a total waste for me.
Yes, there were a PTC sites like browsercash which scammed me of $25 and I've lost over $100 by these scam websites which is why I turned to gambling. Gambling takes less time and it can earn you more profit than PTC.


Title: Re: PTC = gambling ??
Post by: hasiramasenju on June 07, 2016, 09:01:31 PM
i had been several times trying PTC sites because those sites offering that the member could earn money only just clicked the particular links and also some of them offering too high earnings but certainly you must invest at the sites but it doesn't make me interested because i'm afraid would never ROI so i think this is just the same as gambling because we must be invest even though this is not mandatory