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Title: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: sbtctalk on June 02, 2016, 06:23:47 AM
This forums must not be split along religious line and there is a risk of splitting members along different camps and cause unnecessary tensions in this friendly community.

Bitcoin is a secular invention. It should stay that way.

Perhaps discussions along religious line should be move to a religion sub forum, if there is one.

I believe in yoda.

http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Yoda-featured1.jpg


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: Enotche on June 02, 2016, 08:19:43 AM
I agree with you!
Bitcoin is a common currency for all. Bitcoin is to bring people together, and people again want to join in the various groups. There are local threads in the forum, there are religious issues should be, but it is not necessary to create them here.


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: Jet Cash on June 02, 2016, 09:42:17 AM
Some people seem to consider Bitcoin a religion in its own right. :)


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: calkob on June 02, 2016, 09:53:24 AM
Maybe some people should be a little less touchy about religious posts, if something posts something that annoys you, ignore it.  what is it with some people that they want to restrict other peoples free speech???  Now i dont know what post you are referring to but my opinion still stands "Ignore it".   

People should be allowed to post any opinion they want on here (within the subject matter obviously and thread topic) as long as it dosn't incite violence..... :)


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: RoommateAgreement on June 02, 2016, 10:02:57 AM
Maybe some people should be a little less touchy about religious posts, if something posts something that annoys you, ignore it.  what is it with some people that they want to restrict other peoples free speech???  Now i dont know what post you are referring to but my opinion still stands "Ignore it".   

People should be allowed to post any opinion they want on here (within the subject matter obviously and thread topic) as long as it dosn't incite violence..... :)

i agree but not in here in this board.

we have a dedicated board for this kinds of discussion and it is called Politics & Society
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=34.0
people can speak their mind there and not in bitcoin discussion.

and i think he is talking about this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1495605.0


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: RawDog on June 02, 2016, 10:05:18 AM
This forums must not be split along religious line and there is a risk of splitting members along different camps and cause unnecessary tensions in this friendly community.

Bitcoin is a secular invention. It should stay that way.

This is blasphemy in and of itself.  To tell God to 'stay out' is horrible and he will kill you for this.  Do not cast aside God for you will surely burn in hell forever.  Some guy from Pakistan will cut you to a million pieces with a machete and send you straight to hell.  Allah Akbar man.  Please don't ever write here again that God is not welcome.  Bitcoin was a gift from God.   Show your respect.


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: romero121 on June 02, 2016, 10:37:46 AM
Religious factor is also needed in the discussion. Its my own view and not to hurt anyone. If understanding happens between every religion people. We can hopefully have peace and none indicates the other religions as reason for war and other terrorist activities. Every religion insists only love. To understand this such discussions will help.


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: avikz on June 02, 2016, 10:48:46 AM
I strongly agree with you. Religion should be kept out of this forum.

Bitcoin is the best innovation of this decade and religion should not disturb the community of this technology lovers.

Religion only creates divisions and never done anything good to the mankind.


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: gentlemand on June 02, 2016, 10:53:44 AM
Where has religion ever crept into any type of Bitcoin discussion? There's all sorts of squealing on the politics and society board about religion, but that's the subject they're discussing. I've never seen anyone proposing hard forks to stop mining on the sabbath.


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: Symeave on June 02, 2016, 11:10:32 AM
What does religion and bitcoin have to do with each other? those are 2 very different and separate things.


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: Evildrum on June 02, 2016, 06:59:14 PM
Where has religion ever crept into any type of Bitcoin discussion? There's all sorts of squealing on the politics and society board about religion, but that's the subject they're discussing. I've never seen anyone proposing hard forks to stop mining on the sabbath.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1495605.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1272740.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1490278.0

Just a few I noticed and recent enough for conversation.

Can see a time when the forum is over run with it because it looks like a lot of the religious type questions on bitcoin are from newer members.
Meaning that they could be just using bitcoin as a way to talk about religion. Do not want to stifle freedom of speech either,but the potential to be over run could come once more poorer countries gain access to the internet.
But as of right now I do not see a need for a religious section,P&S has ongoing threads on religion that seem to help contain it for now.


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: gentlemand on June 02, 2016, 07:20:31 PM

Just a few I noticed and recent enough for conversation.


But in those particular cases they're practical questions. If you want to add Bitcoin to your life then you don't want it interfering with the way you choose to live the rest of it.


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on June 02, 2016, 07:26:36 PM
Agreed but you'll have the same luck trying to get religion out of society.  Where people walk, so do their religious beliefs.


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: Vod on June 02, 2016, 09:19:31 PM
What does religion and bitcoin have to do with each other? those are 2 very different and separate things.

One attracts the intelligent, the other attracts the ignorant.


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: ibminer on June 02, 2016, 11:04:51 PM
This forum should allow all viewpoints, whether in a bitcoin discussion or not. It would be silly to try and quiet the majority of the world.  ;)

What does religion and bitcoin have to do with each other? those are 2 very different and separate things.

One attracts the intelligent, the other attracts the ignorant.

I knew Vod would have something to say here  :D  If only he knew the amount & caliber of people around the world he was calling ignorant, in the past and present, he would realize how ignorant he was by calling them ignorant. I still got no problem with him expressing his ignorance though, its all he knows. Although, I do still love you Vod.  ;D


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: Evildrum on June 02, 2016, 11:10:21 PM
This forum should allow all viewpoints, whether in a bitcoin discussion or not. It would be silly to try and quiet the majority of the world.  ;)

What does religion and bitcoin have to do with each other? those are 2 very different and separate things.

One attracts the intelligent, the other attracts the ignorant.

I knew Vod would have something to say here  :D  If only he knew the amount & caliber of people around the world he was calling ignorant, he would realize how ignorant he was by calling them ignorant. I still got no problem with him expressing his ignorance though, its all he knows. Although, I do still love you Vod.  ;D

That does not work. You can not point to a majority and imply that they are not ignorant because they are the majority.

The issue of religion is it sways decisions and the people that follow it are blind to how it effects those people that do not follow the Name your God here. The response you gave shows how entitled you are to pass judgement based on it.


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: ibminer on June 02, 2016, 11:52:41 PM
This forum should allow all viewpoints, whether in a bitcoin discussion or not. It would be silly to try and quiet the majority of the world.  ;)

What does religion and bitcoin have to do with each other? those are 2 very different and separate things.

One attracts the intelligent, the other attracts the ignorant.

I knew Vod would have something to say here  :D  If only he knew the amount & caliber of people around the world he was calling ignorant, he would realize how ignorant he was by calling them ignorant. I still got no problem with him expressing his ignorance though, its all he knows. Although, I do still love you Vod.  ;D

That does not work. You can not point to a majority and imply that they are not ignorant because they are the majority.

The issue of religion is it sways decisions and the people that follow it are blind to how it effects those people that do not follow the Name your God here. The response you gave shows how entitled you are to pass judgement based on it.

They were 2 separate statements. One speaking to the OP about why this forum shouldn't push to keep religion out of Bitcoin discussions, and one speaking to Vod. I never implied they are not ignorant because they are a majority. There are plenty of ignorant religious people, and there are plenty of ignorant non-religious people. I've bolded what I said above, if you can try to read and not quickly post to increase your count and make your YoBit quota. This is to say there are plenty, plenty of well educated high caliber people that he just called ignorant in his asinine generalization. I would explain more, but I'm realizing you wouldn't read it.


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: Evildrum on June 03, 2016, 12:20:22 AM


They were 2 separate statements. One speaking to the OP about why this forum shouldn't push to keep religion out of Bitcoin discussions, and one speaking to Vod. I never implied they are not ignorant because they are a majority. There are plenty of ignorant religious people, and there are plenty of ignorant non-religious people. I've bolded what I said above, if you can try to read and not quickly post to increase your count and make your YoBit quota. This is to say there are plenty, plenty of well educated high caliber people that he just called ignorant in his asinine generalization. I would explain more, but I'm realizing you wouldn't read it.

If I was referring to the first response you made I would have separated it or highlighted it.
Signature bashing aside,lets address this statement.
Quote
If only he knew the amount & caliber of people around the world he was calling ignorant, he would realize how ignorant he was by calling them ignorant.

The response you give makes little sense. You talk about the obviousness in numbers and then go on to talk about caliber,which I reference below. Then you state he would realize how ignorant it is to call them ignorant. This implies that religion has a leg to stand on,which is why I state you are passing judgement based on religious belief. It may not be your own religious belief but you allow them ground in stating that religion is not ignorant.
The issue is you are sitting on the fence and allowing them ground to play with,well others like Vod and myself believe that religion is a corruption of the human mind. Should not speak for Vod and will let him address that if he chooses to.

noun
1.
the diameter of something of circular section, especially that of the inside of a tube:
a pipe of three-inch caliber.

2.
Ordnance. the diameter of the bore of a gun taken as a unit of measurement.

3.
degree of capacity or competence; ability:
a mathematician of high caliber.
4.
degree of merit or excellence; quality:
the high moral caliber of the era.

So stating they are of higher moral standing or higher degree of capacity,or you saying the opposite?

Now back to the signature issue. Its arrogant to dismiss a opposing view point based on a bias you have towards the service that is allowed in the forum. I speak on religion because it is the topic at hand,my signature was not on the table and there are plenty of threads where you can bitch to your hearts content about the signatures spamming up the forum.
Just know that by writing people off based on a signature is really just pointing out that you where unable to say anything of substance and decided to take the easy way out.

Cheers.


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: BitcoinEXpress on June 03, 2016, 12:49:24 AM

VOD IS GOD!


~BCX~

http://s33.postimg.org/47q5jhb33/a0ed017ee55ea98d5fbae56f3d126cd6.gif


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: Gleb Gamow on June 03, 2016, 01:48:04 AM
This forums must not be split along religious line and there is a risk of splitting members along different camps and cause unnecessary tensions in this friendly community.

Bitcoin is a secular invention. It should stay that way.

Perhaps discussions along religious line should be move to a religion sub forum, if there is one.

I believe in yoda.

http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Yoda-featured1.jpg

A secular invention invented by a person obsessed with Karma, that is.


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: Kakmakr on June 03, 2016, 09:28:54 AM
If the discussion is based on a question, if Bitcoin should be used by this or that religion, I figure it should be allowed. Bitcoin is just as border less when it comes to real borders, than it is to religious borders. If someone decides tomorrow, based on wrong information that a specific religion should not use Bitcoin, it would influence the whole community.

We should debate and discuss the merits of the use of the technology, not the differences between the religion. We all use different currencies, but it can be exchanged for other currencies. 


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: Vod on June 03, 2016, 09:43:21 AM
But what if you're an intelligent person of faith ?

Intelligent person of faith?

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/oxymoron

I'm not saying a person of faith is not smart, but they would be smarter if they didn't believe in fairy tales.


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: BitcoinEXpress on June 10, 2016, 12:14:23 PM

I'm not saying a person of faith is not smart, but they would be smarter if they didn't believe in fairy tales.


Best line I've heard since a guy I know was asked "Are you born again"

His answer was "No, the first time worked out just fine"



~BCX~


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: ahpku on June 10, 2016, 01:53:53 PM
Where has religion ever crept into any type of Bitcoin discussion?
http://s33.postimg.org/4b51cnmgv/jimjones.jpg


Title: Re: Suggestion: Members should leave religion matters out of Bitcoins discussions
Post by: Vhern on June 10, 2016, 07:41:17 PM
I admit that is a nice idea, always avoid related topic about religion when it comes to bitcoin.