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Title: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: DeanC on March 06, 2013, 04:28:01 PM
http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/06/technology/innovation/bitcoin/

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Bitcoin sounds like something from science fiction: A purely digital currency, created by an anonymous hacker, that operates outside the world's traditional banking systems. The four-year-old currency is very real, though, and it's trading an all-time high, tripling in value in the last two months alone.



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I recommended it on FB and twitted on my twitter. Let them know we like it! :)


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: sega01 on March 06, 2013, 04:31:58 PM
This is pretty awesome. Thanks for posting.

This might help Bitcoin hit the $50 mark, maybe by the end of this month or even sooner.


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: Frequency on March 06, 2013, 04:38:10 PM
Nice one AGAIN good news...,,,  ;)


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: Technomage on March 06, 2013, 06:51:44 PM
Very bullish article and in a big site. Major press.


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on March 06, 2013, 06:58:21 PM
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One deal chronicled on the bitcoin data site BlockChain involved a transfer worth nearly $80,000. The processing fee was 1.8 cents. Beat that, Western Union.

Game. set. match.

To the (often uninformed) people say Bitcoin has no "intrinsic value" ... what would you value an open transparent network with barriers or restrictions that allows anyone to send $80,000 anywhere in the world for less than 2 cents?  $100M?  $1B? $10B?  The network IS the "intrinsic value".


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 06, 2013, 07:03:37 PM
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One deal chronicled on the bitcoin data site BlockChain involved a transfer worth nearly $80,000. The processing fee was 1.8 cents. Beat that, Western Union.

Game. set. match.

To the (often uninformed) people say Bitcoin has no "intrinsic value" ... what would you value an open transparent network with barriers or restrictions that allows anyone to send $80,000 anywhere in the world for less than 2 cents?  $100M?  $1B? $10B?  The network IS the "intrinsic value".

Shit dude, you nailed it right there!  :o


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: Technomage on March 06, 2013, 07:04:23 PM
To the (often uninformed) people say Bitcoin has no "intrinsic value" ... what would you value an open transparent network with barriers or restrictions that allows anyone to send $80,000 anywhere in the world for less than 2 cents?  $100M?  $1B? $10B?  The network IS the "intrinsic value".

Exactly. As surprising as it is, I think that people might be starting to finally get it.


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: wtfvanity on March 06, 2013, 07:08:26 PM
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One deal chronicled on the bitcoin data site BlockChain involved a transfer worth nearly $80,000. The processing fee was 1.8 cents. Beat that, Western Union.

Game. set. match.

To the (often uninformed) people say Bitcoin has no "intrinsic value" ... what would you value an open transparent network with barriers or restrictions that allows anyone to send $80,000 anywhere in the world for less than 2 cents?  $100M?  $1B? $10B?  The network IS the "intrinsic value".

But we have a bunch of people that don't want to change the maximum block size, so one day it will be similar to a wire transfer free. Currently 2 cents, in the future? Maybe not. Contact your local Bitcoin Foundation representative today.


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: klaus on March 06, 2013, 07:38:32 PM
Game. set. match.

excellent summary!

same here ... I cant believe what i'm reading from CNN (!). Is 'bitcoin' lately a add-customer or still WU like the last years?


https://i.imgur.com/O7xTep2.gif


ROFL ROFL ROFL


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: TraderTimm on March 06, 2013, 07:39:04 PM
This is major, but I have to admit I'm a little worried.

While the government already knows about bitcoin from other publicity, CNN just puts it right out front and in their face. I hope they don't decide to enact anything stupid on that basis.

I guess we'll see, just flagging a concern.


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: TooCasual on March 06, 2013, 08:06:37 PM
Nah, all the government employees and congress individuals will be getting in on the action. :D hehe.

TC.


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: 21after2 on March 06, 2013, 08:25:29 PM
Read this at work today. CNN has been a lot more civil with Bitcoin articles than most major publications. Nice to have some decent publicity out there.


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: Gabi on March 06, 2013, 08:30:47 PM
Great article. Explain everything in a concise and good way!


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: Deafboy on March 06, 2013, 08:52:40 PM
This was the first really GOOD ARTICLE in mainstream media about bitcoin. I was not expecting this.


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: dree12 on March 06, 2013, 08:56:20 PM
This is major, but I have to admit I'm a little worried.

While the government already knows about bitcoin from other publicity, CNN just puts it right out front and in their face. I hope they don't decide to enact anything stupid on that basis.

I guess we'll see, just flagging a concern.

You worry too much about government. No matter how many mistakes it makes, it still acts in public interest. Public interest is to embrace a new revolutionary financial technology, not to ban it.


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: nevafuse on March 06, 2013, 10:44:50 PM
You worry too much about government. No matter how many mistakes it makes, it still acts in public interest. Public interest is to embrace a new revolutionary financial technology, not to ban it.

The same public interest that embraces gambling, drugs, and tax evasion?  People like having control over other people.  Bitcoin removes that control.  I disagree that the public interest is behind bitcoin, but I really hope the government is too slow to really inflict any real damage.  Regardless, I plan & recommend on not poking the bear.


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 06, 2013, 10:47:28 PM
This is major, but I have to admit I'm a little worried.

While the government already knows about bitcoin from other publicity, CNN just puts it right out front and in their face. I hope they don't decide to enact anything stupid on that basis.

I guess we'll see, just flagging a concern.

You worry too much about government. No matter how many mistakes it makes, it still acts in public interest. Public interest is to embrace a new revolutionary financial technology, not to ban it.

I don't know how it is in other countries, but at least around here they are starting to see that the financial system is not a friend of governments at all and (very)slowly acting on it. All they want is to enslave people. Even politicians will realise it sooner or later. ;)


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: dree12 on March 06, 2013, 10:57:37 PM
You worry too much about government. No matter how many mistakes it makes, it still acts in public interest. Public interest is to embrace a new revolutionary financial technology, not to ban it.

The same public interest that embraces gambling, drugs, and tax evasion?  People like having control over other people.  Bitcoin removes that control.  I disagree that the public interest is behind bitcoin, but I really hope the government is too slow to really inflict any real damage.  Regardless, I plan & recommend on not poking the bear.

Bitcoin does not support gambling, drugs, or tax evasion. That is a complete myth. I ran some numbers, and drugs and gambling combine for approximately 10% of the network. That's about as much as it is for regular fiat.

The people on Bitcointalk have an irrational fear of government, believing it to be more than what it is—an association of people help organize society. Yes, it is power-hungry; and yes, it makes mistakes—but there is zero reason to believe it will attack a currency that benefits its own people.


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: imanikin on March 06, 2013, 10:59:46 PM
The link looks dead now. I think they were just joking.  :D


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: puck2 on March 06, 2013, 11:03:50 PM
The link looks dead now. I think they were just joking.  :D

The link is back up: http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/06/technology/innovation/bitcoin/


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: imanikin on March 06, 2013, 11:05:24 PM
But we have a bunch of people that don't want to change the maximum block size, so one day it will be similar to a wire transfer free. Currently 2 cents, in the future? Maybe not. Contact your local Bitcoin Foundation representative today.
There is LiteCoin, which might be even better for large-volume, small transactions, and Bitcoin can just handle the big stuff.

Ultimately, i think it will all unify in Ripple, which may be best!


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: Stapleddiet on March 06, 2013, 11:07:26 PM
The link works for me.


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: imanikin on March 06, 2013, 11:13:00 PM
The link looks dead now. I think they were just joking.  :D
The link is back up: http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/06/technology/innovation/bitcoin/
Does it look like they changed anything in the article from the original?


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: nevafuse on March 06, 2013, 11:13:10 PM
Bitcoin does not support gambling, drugs, or tax evasion. That is a complete myth. I ran some numbers, and drugs and gambling combine for approximately 10% of the network. That's about as much as it is for regular fiat.

The people on Bitcointalk have an irrational fear of government, believing it to be more than what it is—an association of people help organize society. Yes, it is power-hungry; and yes, it makes mistakes—but there is zero reason to believe it will attack a currency that benefits its own people.

Obviously bitcoin doesn't support anything, it's a protocol.  But its lack of regulation, allows it to facilitate a lot of things people frown upon.  Prescriptions make the price of obtaining legal drugs more expensive, but the public interest still supports it because a few may abuse it.  The price of healthcare is even a huge issue, yet the idea of making all drugs over the counter is never discussed.  The same people that follow that logic will use it campaign against bitcoin.  Despite all the good bitcoin can do, the fact that it can't be controlled is something people fear.


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: dree12 on March 07, 2013, 12:35:36 AM
Bitcoin does not support gambling, drugs, or tax evasion. That is a complete myth. I ran some numbers, and drugs and gambling combine for approximately 10% of the network. That's about as much as it is for regular fiat.

The people on Bitcointalk have an irrational fear of government, believing it to be more than what it is—an association of people help organize society. Yes, it is power-hungry; and yes, it makes mistakes—but there is zero reason to believe it will attack a currency that benefits its own people.

Obviously bitcoin doesn't support anything, it's a protocol.  But its lack of regulation, allows it to facilitate a lot of things people frown upon.  Prescriptions make the price of obtaining legal drugs more expensive, but the public interest still supports it because a few may abuse it.  The price of healthcare is even a huge issue, yet the idea of making all drugs over the counter is never discussed.  The same people that follow that logic will use it campaign against bitcoin.  Despite all the good bitcoin can do, the fact that it can't be controlled is something people fear.

Citation needed.

People who know it for what it is do not fear it. There are several reasons for this:

  • Bitcoin can be controlled. It is just like cash, subject to regulation as any other. See any large exchange for their AML policy. There is no reason Bitcoin can't be controlled.
  • Bitcoin does not need to be controlled. There is no harm that can be done with Bitcoin. Buying drugs and evading taxes with Bitcoin are just as, if not more, dangerous and easy to detect as with cold, hard, cash.
  • Control is not necessarily a good thing. There are many things that should not be controlled. That's why we have freedom of thought, conscience, expression, and association. People are not afraid of them. Like thought, conscience, and expression, financial freedom is beneficial, not detrimental, to society as a whole. Bitcoin decentralizes the banks, which have done little good for society. People fear banks, and Bitcoin helps save the day.


Title: Re: 2013-03-06 MONEY.CNN.COM Why cyber currency bitcoin is trading at an all-time hi
Post by: nevafuse on March 07, 2013, 08:49:03 PM
People who know it for what it is do not fear it. There are several reasons for this:

  • Bitcoin can be controlled. It is just like cash, subject to regulation as any other. See any large exchange for their AML policy. There is no reason Bitcoin can't be controlled.
  • Bitcoin does not need to be controlled. There is no harm that can be done with Bitcoin. Buying drugs and evading taxes with Bitcoin are just as, if not more, dangerous and easy to detect as with cold, hard, cash.
  • Control is not necessarily a good thing. There are many things that should not be controlled. That's why we have freedom of thought, conscience, expression, and association. People are not afraid of them. Like thought, conscience, and expression, financial freedom is beneficial, not detrimental, to society as a whole. Bitcoin decentralizes the banks, which have done little good for society. People fear banks, and Bitcoin helps save the day.

And I agree with you 100%.  But that doesn't mean our opinions match with the majority.  I believe it is a legitimate concern to be worried about how the government may react to bitcoin.  They could easily convince banks to stop transfers to mtgox just like they did with wikileaks.  Two US senators already have a negative opinion of bitcoin.  France is trying to restrict cash transactions. 

I really hope you are right that my fears are irrational.  A government attempt to stop bitcoin would definitely set it back a few years if not more.  Regardless, I'm in it for the long haul & believe even a government crackdown won't stop it.  And maybe others will find a way to lessen the effects of this hopefully worse case scenario.