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Title: Real reason why Swiss rejected UBI Post by: giantdragon on June 05, 2016, 10:43:00 PM I think most of the Swiss voters just understand that unconditional income will lead to degradation of the majority population. It is a human nature - drinking, taking drugs, having multiple sexual partners, playing computer games and casino, consuming entertaining products like movies and music etc. There is no reason why people who get UBI will spent free time on useful tasks like creativity or science research. May be 1% will, but 99% certainly not, so streets of the Bern and Geneva will be flooded with used syringes and condoms, and not art masterpieces.
Smart solution to the technological unemployment will be conditional income like Public Works Administration in 1930's. Pay people for useful activities - raising children, education, science, creating arts, caring disable people etc. Title: Re: Real reason why Swiss rejected UBI Post by: Daniel91 on June 06, 2016, 07:35:38 AM I agree with you.
Also, nobody explain from where this money will come, probably from increased taxes. Why give basic income to people who can work and earn enough for their living? It doesn't make sense really. Of course we should help disabled people, but through existing state aid, not through basic income. Title: Re: Real reason why Swiss rejected UBI Post by: alyssa85 on June 06, 2016, 12:14:56 PM Yeah. Basic income is a silly idea, and I hope this referendum has squashed it for good (though some will keep trying to push this in other places).
Title: Re: Real reason why Swiss rejected UBI Post by: BADecker on June 06, 2016, 01:27:16 PM Yeah. Basic income is a silly idea, and I hope this referendum has squashed it for good (though some will keep trying to push this in other places). Anyone can have a basic income if they are good at talking, and have a reasonable product or service. It's call multi-level marketing, or network marketing. Once it takes hold for you, you can almost sit back and let it run. 8) Title: Re: Real reason why Swiss rejected UBI Post by: dellboygold on June 06, 2016, 01:43:57 PM I agree with you. That could be the main reason.
Title: Re: Real reason why Swiss rejected UBI Post by: xht on June 06, 2016, 11:06:28 PM I agree with you. Yes and why not just give every one a million dollars per month and see where it leads...money has no value? government must borrow it all ? from who? no they print it and the government collapses and there is no income for anyone.Also, nobody explain from where this money will come, probably from increased taxes. Why give basic income to people who can work and earn enough for their living? It doesn't make sense really. Of course we should help disabled people, but through existing state aid, not through basic income. Title: Re: Real reason why Swiss rejected UBI Post by: Spendulus on June 07, 2016, 12:22:36 AM I agree with you. Yes and why not just give every one a million dollars per month and see where it leads...money has no value? government must borrow it all ? from who? no they print it and the government collapses and there is no income for anyone.Also, nobody explain from where this money will come, probably from increased taxes. Why give basic income to people who can work and earn enough for their living? It doesn't make sense really. Of course we should help disabled people, but through existing state aid, not through basic income. Hey, it could be a great party. While it lasts. Title: Re: Real reason why Swiss rejected UBI Post by: bryant.coleman on June 07, 2016, 01:08:26 AM I would not have objected to a basic income of CHF 100 or CHF150. But at CHF 2,500 per adult per month, the proposal is not practicable and if it is implemented, then Switzerland will become bankrupt like Greece in less than 10 years. Also, since Switzerland is a part of the Schengen Zone, there will be a massive inflow of third world immigrants to that country, if the measure is adopted.
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