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I say no.

I think LISK is a damp squib and WAVES will be even worse. I don't see WAVES overtaking LISK in marketcap. Maybe day 1 (if even that), but that will be it. I see it two-stepping with Dogecoin at position 9/10 in the first few weeks.

I'm not even sure it will be able to stand against DOGE. Might even drop to start sparring with Monero. Crowdsale hype is starting to hit the skids (and about time too).

We cannot really predict these things.  But what do you mean in saying 'do better'?  Do you mean their coin/tokens do well in the market or do you mean will the platform get enough users to become successful?

I mean how well their tokens will do on the market in terms of price and overall marketcap.

Of course we can't really predict these things as a certainty.

If you mean the price and market cap, then the question is, when? In the first days, when the initial dump by the day traders is happening to waves while lisk has more or less passed that stage, maybe waves will have less market cap for a while. At the end of 2016 I believe waves will be bigger than lisk and have a higher market cap though. :)

Ah then it's just a matter of common people and the big whales buying in, thereby increasing their marketcap.  That can be manipulated...  Easily.

On the other hand if their respective platforms do get enough meaningful users, that's a more solid statement that they 'did well'.  A lot of platforms were created and tried, but I have yet to see a truly successful platform in wide use today.

It's a very smooth looking project, best contact to the userbase I've seen so far

That's the thing. I'm not sure it will. The potential is there but the market will always do what it wants to do regardless of potential.

I remember NXT in the early days, now look at it.

I don't know why you are comparing Lisk with Waves if they are totally different projects with different purposes. It would make sense comparing ETH with Lisk or Waves with NXT or BTS. Waves is a token platform that aims for fiat integration via gateways while Lisk aims for blockchain applications.

That may be so, but they will ultimately be judged by this
http://coinmarketcap.com/

WAVES will be bigger coinmarketcap. great platform.

i think YES, because Waves team is more market oriented  ???

waves have no substance, just scammer easy pocketing from morons missing lisk ico. waves crazy promises of paycoin and eth scam play book with no substance
these moron will hype the craps out of this soon in hope of double or triple their investment in short 2 weeks.

Agree with you.
Maybe not at the begining but waves will be bigger then lisk. The ICO already was bigger than lisk ico.

Waves have a better project too, with more use than dapps so.. i'm betting in waves for now.

ps: as a trader, i do have a few lisks at the moment, because lisk will grow for now, i just dont think lisk will be bigger than waves.

I support you. >:(

Waves will surpass Ripple on Coinmarketcap. Waves is an evolution of what Ripple attempted to be, its blockchain and banking in one platform so dont compare it to Lisk.

WAVES will be great! LISK not so well (because it is ripoff from another coin).  :)

Whichever he mean, they don't categorically be compared but since he did. i think Lisk is no match to WAVES.

And this is the issue. Great tech, innovation, and outlook doesn't always mean a high marketcap in this industry. As I wrote earlier, look at NXT. I see waves as a kind of Crypto 2.0 version of NXT.

I think LISK might have been the last properly profitable crowdsale in market terms. Lisk raised approx $6m and now has marketcap of $45m, The DAO raised $168m and now has marketcap of $150m. Even though WAVES has raised $16m I'm not sure it'll break $50m (or even $30m)

This is not based on science, just based on what's been going on recently. And to be real about it, most people invest in these ICO/crowdsales for profit on the markets. That's what I'm looking at.

Longterm lisk will be trending to 0 and waves will be trending towards billion$ marketcaps.

How the launch goes is impossible to say though, i'm guessing it'll be a flat launch.

This is purely a market performance question. I am not comparing the two on a tech level.

I don't think, waves rised more just because lisk got pumped after the release, and since they were something like antagonist, it's ok compare them, but I don't think waves will do it much better!

Bitcoins biggest wallet partners with waves, nuff said. Lisk can only dream of such thing. Waves going to be third on coinmarketcap, you heard it here first.

I think this both the same.. they are just good and high price value in the first time and it will reduce the price sooner or few weeks.. just like the other shitcoin they are starting high price until low price to sell all ico coins..

Have you been following Ripple? Ripple is deeply involved with many many banks and they just received a BitLicense to start selling XRP directly to financial institutions: http://www.coindesk.com/new-york-bitlicense-ripple/

MIT is now running one of their validating nodes, so is Microsoft. There's talk of R3 partnering with Ripple.

SBI Holdings is getting ready to sell XRP on their securities exchanges.

The list goes on...

Buy and HODL.

Waves is Ripple without the baggage. Cya Ripple.

I thought waves was supposed to be getting integrated into mycelium wallet as well? surely if thats the case then it should be a massive boost to waves when they can be stored and traded in one of the most successful android platform wallets? Or did i miss read that somewhere?

Probably about the same for the first week.

Comparing them on a technical level doesn't make much sense. They both have different usecases, both interesting, both with huge potential. How they will do in the long run compared to each other depends on how well both teams can deliver. My absolutely non technical gut feeling is that Waves has the shorter way to go to become big, but if Lisk pulls it off, it's gonna be HUGE. And at that point, hopefully, blockchain technology as a whole has grown so much, that the two projects don't have to fight over meager millions of dollars ;) .

I think in the beginning, price will be comparable to LSK, which means between 60-80k. Waves can only grow so much and a lot of it's growth happened during the ICO. I think it is foolish to disregard that fact and just say "Waves collected more funds, so it's going to be bigger". No. The growth started when the ICO was announced.

I think the launch will be met with selling.
The same way the Lisk launch was.

Did you see the ripple price today?

of course waves is better. look how pro the devs compare to lisk. did you ever saw how they distribute their waves on their platform itself?
the new ECHO isn't even something to compare with.

I agree.

The first 2 days of ico waves raised like $4m, over 2x what Lisk did it's first week. These 2 days occurred well before Lisk hit the market, so the argument that Waves raised so much because of Lisk missers is completely invalid. I predict Waves does very well long term, but it's not going to be a pump from the start like Lisk - holders will earn their profit with patience. Over 1% of the coin was given away, so combined with the btc increase I think the first days are going to be rough.

I disagree, I think that a ton of BTC is ready and waiting to buy up that 1 million waves that was given away free, first barrier will be breaking 75k sat, but if it does that earnestly as in with volume of 10- 20k BTC/day for two to three days expect a rise of magnificent proportion.

I think it can be expected Waves market cap will be higher than Lisk. It raised more then Lisk did and with the surge in Bitcoin it has some amazing potential once it gets listed. Only time will tell.

I expect WAVES will definitely have a higher market cap since it is far more innovative than LISK with much larger following.

talking only about the project, i think waves will be much better... but
Marketcap and inicial price might not be good because of bitcoin pump(even lisk is losing price).

If we see a good initial price, i'll dump my waves without a doubt. buy i'll buy again latter.

Let's wait and see bitcoin movements... it's losing strength for now so it might have a little dump and if that happens waves will shine from day 1.

Even if it is impossible to compare Waves and Lisk, I think both will have a similar performance in the next few months on the market.
And then in 2 years, who knows? Time will tell.

Wave far more innovative of nothingness and the failed at launch.

how has the launched failed? the main net is online and you can move coins around. You cannot force exchanges to add you, you can only help them with the process of adding. waves isn't just a clone...

The not being on any exchanges yet problem definitely made Waves lose
some momentum and hype, but if it gets added in the next few days
it should be able to recover the lost hype and after shaking out the weak hands
that are just waiting to dump their coins, the price should stabilize at at least 2x ICO price imo.

Well well well...

What did I say? Check OP for the prediction. WAVES isn't even sparring with DOGE. WAVES being listed on coinmarletcap is the biggest anti-climax of the year, but it don't matter. Everyone probably so dejected right now that devs can make off quietly with the money.

LISK is about to also drop beneath DOGE. Looks like both cryptos are on their way to have a big fight with Monero. All the corny crypto hype language in the forums did nothing to hype the price. Don't worry, the weak hands are being shaken out, whales taking profit, devs are on the case, once they release the kraken everybody goes to moon.... No, the only place anyone's going is to the bank to ask for more time to repay the overdraft.

I really need to find a way to get that BTC/ETH/FIAT in a hyped crowdsale and make my way outta here like the smart devs. People are just begging to give anyone who asks their money.

This industry is going nowhere fast. Time for an exit strategy, and I've already seen a nice Ferrari that I want parked on my drive.

Sorry everyone. I think I'm having a cynical day. I'll cheer up when the shitbags I'm holding start showing green on coinmarketcap.

 ;D ;D ;D

I don't know will waves do better than lisk on the market because i don't have any valid data about that,
it depending on the community, the traders, investors to addopt it on fortofolio investment.
I have saw the waves coin be traded on Indonesian exchangers and wave coin can be traded on exmo
WAVES/RUB trading is available on Exmo.com https://exmo.me/ru/trade#?pair=WAVES_RUB ,
i don't know it will be impact on the market or not. Let's wait and see.

the problem with waves though is that there is no token within its network that's being traded heavily unlike the tokens on ETHereum network. until there is no token that's useful enough that people will find it very needed in the future, waves token might not be taken seriously although there were people collecting it as they see some future with it,.

Wave seem to be developing in geometric pace but somehow is not getting ahead in adoption! I will like to believe that the wave dev is lacking in marketing and networking skill! Look at the project that have done so well so far in crypto. One thing is common to all of them which  is proper marketing and networking. They collaborate with other growing project!

Lisk was succesfull as an ICO but waves is bigger than lisk as it is a token creator.Waves will have higher marketcap compare to lisk.No comparision of waves and lisk.They are both different.

Yes you are right ethereum has more popular than waves coin for token projects and many projects of ICOs on ethereum's platform than waves platform, i have knew about it, the problem now is waves and lisk they are competitors in smart contact platform same with ethereum and ethereum classic, waves doesn't have many token, how about the lisk? Do you have any data about it? I think it is true the problem. We don't have enough data about taken on waves and lisk, not on ethereum's platform.

we cant compare this 2 but i think both of them they made a good road up to now