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Some two or three weeks ago (approx.) BTC was languishing in the mid $400s or so.  Participating in a Signature Campaign looked like a way to make a little bit of Easy Money.  Looks a little bit better now, no?

I do understand that there is always the risk of lower BTC payouts with the price up so high (relative to recent years), but still, the Campaigns do seem more compelling now.  But, perhaps they will continue to pay in BTC and not "adjust" for the increased US$ value of each Bitcoin's price.  We'll see.

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as I remember it well few weeks ago secondstrade already drop down they rewards for their campaign because bitcoin started to rise up, I don't know if others will do the same, but it will be their option instead of freezing their campaign as bitcoin continues to rally up price is unpredicted now 600 going to 700 maybe and what next for tomorrow no one can tell. good luck to us who believes.

Im sure they will adjust their price, who wants to pay their member 0.05/week when the price is at $600-ish :P
The better way to deal with this price is to use fixed payment using $  :)
So when the price suddenly increased to $1000 you still get the same amount of coins when converted to $

Next week all campaigns should be rolling in with their new rates ;D

Lucky for a guy who have stash of bitcoins somewhere :P

Yes they do but if it's a problem for them I don't think people would mind if they dialed it back to previous levels of fiat. Better for the members to keep earning what they are used to then the sig campaign to stop because the price is too much.

The fact there is sig campaigns are affected by this price rise as we can see for past week and even this week there are sig campaigns are starting to close down and thats very bad to us and for this week the manager of luckybtc announce that this is their last week of campaign and theyre gonna close and maybe we can see more campaign will close because they can  really affected by this price rally.

i think its time for the managers to adjust their rates. at this btc price level, the current rates of all campaigns arw very very high. i think all the managers will lower their rates very soon.

Well not really. I'd actually like the bitcoin price to go down right now. I have conflicting interests lol. It's hard to explain. I have current bitcoin holdings, but I also earn some extra cash from sig camp.

Coinroll is based on USD so... Actually getting paid less.

You are right :) The Earnings are rising with the Bitcoin Price and you get maybe already paid like you should be ;) Maybe  ;D
Anyways i really like the People still interested in the activities on BTC and posting quality posts and this also helps the Bitcoin to grow up like it grows!

If there would be no room for such a "cool" stuff like signatures on the btc network i think the btc wouldnt be that greatfull on his rising challange :)
What do you guys think

Same here i want the price of bitcoin to go down.. because of many reason.. i would like it because i have only few bitcoins holding in my wallet.. and can not make a huge profit unlike other people here that they are holding too much bitcoins..
Honestly if i know bitcoins before and earn much bitcoins before in siganture campaign or other task here in our forum its ok for me now even the price of bitcoin will increase today.. well there's no benefits that i get for me if the price today will increase.. signature campaign it helps a lot with us.. to hold even a small amount of bitcoin. but they are just decrease the rate because of price increase ,, and i think we will see this again they are decreasing it again because of price increase.. but i am sure the price will reduce again in few months.. because if you thinking for price will increase or above 1k value its impossible to happen people are greedy even the price is increase a bit they are selling it..

The price rise for today is totally had bad effect on sig campaigns because some other campaigns are really closing down and some other also is lessen their fee and thats ok unless there not totally closing and that very bad really for us sig campaigners because we might gonna lose our very prestigious campaign here because they dont want to lose big money just to pay big amount in advertising.

And that is the bad effect of price rise of bitcoin for today id rather prefer for bitcoin to stable at 500$ if it well reach above for that price theirs no really doubt that sigs are totally gone.

Yeah its always happen thats why its better to live in 2014 and join in signature campaign they are i think paying much bitcoin because price of bitcoin before is 300 or below.. so if you are olders sig campaign  earner.. i think you have so much bitcoin right now and you can make more profit this time..

Why they should lower their payment ? As far as I see , signature campaigns are mixers, trading platforms, and gambling websites. All of those three receive daily btc and receive daily profit based in btc, so should be no problem to keep the same rates. Regarding secondstrade signature campaign they do it all the time, they lower the payment with the first thing happening, I wonder what kind of people accept to promote such a super low paying signature campaign.

I agree with this but they do not generate(mine) the bitcoins. They get Bitcoins from the customers that use these services. With the Bitcoin's price increasing rapidly the volume of BTC transactions by these customers may get lower and that may affect our earnings from signature campaigns.

The thing about decreasing the rates is that most campaigns are not being fair with it. They are decreasing the rates to almos half when price increased but they never increase their rates when the bitcoin price drops.

Don't be too happy about your future signature payments, most of the campaigns will lower their rates and you may end up receiving less $ than before. People will flock to the exceptions and get a higher payment will be really hard

Yup, either the service providers will change rates or they'll suddenly 'stop working' until the price stabilizes...i wonder if yobit payouts are still working lol

It have seen also before that signature campaign reducing their rate after price rise and i think majority of the campaign will may adjust there rate per post but some may not change.

Well why dont you just keep quite about it. Or do you want them to lower their prices ? Your logic is fallacy.

Campaigns that get their revenue and profit solely in Bitcoin will most likely not reduce or upgrade prices accordingly.

Signature payout of 0.05 BTC is and will always stay 0.05 BTC. Price doesn't change anything for these kind of companies/services.

Well I guess that's true, can't value BTC against fiat, that's the whole point here right?

Now when bitcoin price increased, signature campaigns didn't lowered payment rates (except secondstrade I think). It's good for us, because we can earn more, but I think it could be not very good for companies which running sig. campaigns. I think in near future more signature campaigns will make their payment rates based on USD, like on Coinroll campaign, because we can see that bitcoin price unstable and companies don't want to loose money.

Some campaigns are way, way more reactive to price than others. But don't expect the BTC only businesses to maintain their payouts. Even if they themselves stay in BTC, their customers don't and the dollar price is what commands their fee.

You might be tumbling 0.1 for your gambling one week and 0.05 the next for the same initial outlay.

Without any doubt there will be some shape up of pay outs because the value of btc have increased more than 50%, i checked freebitco.in right now and i discovered that they are paying 400+ sats instead of the usual 1000+ sats they used to pay.

Well i don't think so that the campaigns will lower their rates because these rates are running from many months no matter what is the price of bitcoins . I would say that the rates of campaign per post are universal rates So we will not see any change .

But ive seen some campaign starting to close down maybe they are affected to it and others really lowered their payments because their payments are based on USD and thats totally ok as long as they will continue their campaign and we are still payed.

Well just tell me if bitcoin price hits 100$ the campaign will not higher the rate for Example if btc hits 100$ my campaign will keep the rate of 0.035/week because it is stated in OP that you will earn 0.035/week for your post no matter what is the price of bitcoin if they want to vary the rates then it should be stated in OP we have rights to change the rate of campaign with the increase or decrease of bitcoins price in USD.


Maybe their site is not so interested for bitcoin forum users ? Or maybe they are done here ?

Have you read this ?

Secondstrade is decreasing their payout. Maybe it's because of the huge amount of members that they have, the present price of BTC, or both. Other signature campaigns have closed down but not because BTC's price. They have their reasons.

Signature campaign is surely a really good thing right now because it makes us get more BTC right before the halving comes. We can have a decent amount of money when the halving comes. Actually, signature campaign isn't the only good thing right now. Every work that is paid in terms of BTC and do not change the pay rate despite of BTC's price is a good thing to fill in our stash for the incoming halving.

Of course they will. Why would they bankrupt themselves? I don't think those guys have a few thousand coins put aside to supply sig campaigns for the next few years. It goes out as fast as it comes in. And they're gonna be taking in less bitcoins with a higher price.

Some of them will drop prizes and not only because Bitcoin price rises. It is also about supply and demand - it looks like now more people is interested to earn from signature campaigns, so automatically rates will goes down.

It's nearly impossible to not pay your bills in fiat. Most businessed have to sell at least as many coins to keep the lights on and rent paid...

maybe they will make an adjustment for their payouts because bitcoin is still raising it's price so it will be not good for the companies who are running signature campaign . we don't know and we're not sure when they will lowered their payout but let's hope that they will let the bitcoin halving pass before they make an adjustment for their payment .

If the money that is for the payment of signature campaign was in BTC before the price has increased, then the campaign manager will surely not decrease their payment. 1BTC is still 1 BTC for them. But if they have to exchange USD to BTC to pay the members of their campaign, then there's a chance that the campaign manager would decrease the payment especially now that the price of BTC will surely rise up.

There is a possibility that they are gonna do this but right now I did not see any signs to be honest.
I honestly also not hope this because this is just so nice.

Surely they will made some adjustment just like what secondstrade do now they lowered there btc payments since their payments is based in USD dollars and thats good for now as long as campaigns are not closing down they can still earn with their campaign but sadly some other campaigns decided really to shut down forever since they cannot shoulder the payments of the participants since the bitcoins price is continously rising.

They are looking great in my opinion for sure due to the fact that they are profitable right now and the payouts are good and higher now..

And they should continue to remain so, the signature campaigns, almost all of them are btc related sites so their income is in btc and they don't care a lot regarding btc price, for example a casino have no reason at all to lower the payments since their net profit is the same if not more because of people promoting their websites through their signature. Same with trading houses too or exchanges or mixers. So cannot really understand what is all the hype people here to influence the price of sig campaigns going down, luckybtc campaign is ending tomorrow and its members will look for new  campaigns tomorrow.
Brace yourselves a lot of applications to join a signature campaign will be on tomorrow.

It also is corresponding with the higher number of accounts being sold, because there's too few campaigns to join nowadays. If you're like me and have left just about every single major campaign on the forum, you're fcked, and the only profitable way out is to sell your account. AFAIK almost every single campaign has changed their payout , and most of it is going lower. Some campaigns have now put a cap on the maximum posts, and it gets lower and lower. One upside to this is that there's much less spamming going on in the forum, but there's also a huge flood of people that want to earn 'easy' bitcoin on the forum, and so high-paying campaigns are hard to get into- a campaign paying 0.05btc/month or up with 20 slots will literally fill up in less than 5 minutes. Definitely a good time if you're in a higher paying campaign, but most of the bigger ones are lowering their pay because they can- it's still the same USD value, but less bitcoin. Guess they wanna save money.

What the hell? If you're a gambler that probably means you're getting through your money as it comes in. That money starts off in dollars or euros or whatever. Because bitcoin now costs more you buy less of it. The gambling site makes less bitcoin.

If you're selling stuff then more than likely dollars are going out the door eventually. That means you're taking in less bitcoin for the same dollars.

It's not rocket science.

Yes, as long as the rates do not get cut, then this is a big time to be participating in quality discussions.

The one that really blows my mind is bit-x/coinsbank. With the price as it is now they're paying out nearly $85 a week to each of the high rankers. That's a ton of money to be parting with.

Well, they're willing to pay the price, and not every person will max out the number of posts they can get. It's usually not nearly as much as you think; with daily campaigns, a cap of 20 posts like yobit is pretty generous. It's difficult to max out the number of posts you can get in most campaigns, because most people only have so much time in a day. Yeah, it's true that they're giving that much to them, but like I said, it's difficult to make the maximum. Some people might be, but they probably have lower quality posts. There's a reason behind everything, you just have to find out.

Indeed to hit such numbers you need a lot of spare time and people are just on the forum for information.
This means that the most will never hit this limit..

I used to consider myself pretty aggressive in posting (I do have spare time), yet in the year or so that I have been in my Signature Campaign I have hit my weekly limit only ONCE.  That was months ago.  Even with BTC price rather high (currently some $710), I only posted some 18 times or so last week, and perhaps 12 or so this week so far.  Weekly limit for me is 50.

Yes I also do not think that people will hit such limits, if people do they will almost spam the whole forum in my eyes.
These limits can simply with a job not be reached..

With the bitcoin price increasing too fast, i think that signature campaigns will lower its pay per post or will limit the max number of post, like they did before. Its possible that some campaigns fixed its rate to $ per post like coinroll is doing now.

They are looking pretty nice right now but it changes nothing in my eyes, its that its worth more but I must say that if they will stay like this they will change it for sure.
Its just a matter of time for sure.

Spots are too limited. Im sure they will lower payments as always when BTC price hit the moon.

Of course they will and this is of course normal, it would be weird if they would not do this in my eyes.
They cannot only give money away right.... they are always changing the rates when such thing happens.

now its simply going for 800$ eze :D
I really like Bitcoin but its also not easy to get them. So iam finally very hard on the Mining Game on active on the Community where i can help :P
What do you guys do for the bctcommuntiy for the help?

It is good if they lowered the payment aslong as they will continue their campaign but really this price hike can effect of those existing campaigns because of it some other are closing down like luckybtc,betbtc  and betking and that is the one of bad effects happened, maybe we can see more close downs of campaign if the price will be to much high and advertisers cannot sustain his budget for the campaign and thats very bad  for some people relying on campaigns to earn some free btc

i think it is good think to lowering payout for campaign because nothing change when i want to exchange my bitcoin into fiat. and it can keep the campaign going steady although bitcoin price rising like now

One cannot expect to make a living out of these campaigns, no question there. This can be only a bit of hobby, earning money aside for things you do anyway.

Having said that, it s normal to expect campaign managers will adjust their rates.

I think members of secondstrade signature do not need  to worry at all of campaign rates being adjusted, since secondstrade is always a pioneer in lowering rates when bitcoin prices go up, but they never care to raise their rates when bitcoin price goes down. I guess they are "the only smart persons here and all of us others are the stupid ones" by their mentality, a communist one if you ask me.

As the price is rising many campaign are closed/closing and rest of them have reduce their payouts in order to be still active and make a payout. Since halving is coming closer price is rising . Let us see till which level it rises before it start  making other way fall.

Now its looks like we can earn some serious money from campaign`s. I count in my head that high payouts now, where 0.15 is 150 dollars. So someone make that in a 2 weeks with higher rank. I think they will lower payouts for sure. Who can keep up with btc rising?

But lets not forget that this sites also earn more when btc price is rising. I think its win win situation for everyone, when btc is rising. Its gonna be crazy for everyone until this halving passes, and for sure in some weeks after that.

Maybe thats the reason why his campaign have no limits for participants so he can create more spam and more advertisement for low cost and hes succesfull with that since hes campaign is running for quite long time, and for now its ok since some other campaign are full and secondstrade have open doors to adopt those members who dont have campaign.

Indeed they are reducing their pay out but its in my eyes also normal that they are doing it otherwise you would make a lot more profit just because of the risings right now..
Th halving is also coming so we have to see what is gonna bring it also.

I'm also hoping for the best too, but the campaigns that I was/am enrolled in (PrimeDice, Bit-X) always lowered their rates whenever there had been a significant rise in Bitcoin price (though with a delay)

I can answer this question with surety. These are the lowest level posters (maybe, just above compulsive spammers only) who might not even speak (understand) English at all and can only copy other users' posts. Yesterday I caught one from that campaign who started copying my own posts, lol...

Which I don't recommend doing, since I remember what I had been posting years ago

You have one good memory for remembering what you've posted years ago :P
Did you report him to the campaign manager ?
It's good to have him out of the campaign, it's obvious that his sole purpose coming here is to make money ;)


Well, campaign slot nowadays are really hard to get they get filled in just a few hours, so anyone will advertise those campaign for just a penny :)

The most will just change the payout rates but its looking nice for sure, I really have no doubts about that.
I think the bitcoin has a very good future a head these days and it will stay rising.

In fact, I was rather surprised by the quality of that (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1003429.msg15233174#msg15233174) post (amidst the usual garbage posted here and there), and it looked somewhat familiar to me, perfectly resonating with my own thoughts, lol. Then I had a sneaking suspicion, and wtf, my suspicion proved right (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1003429.msg11496312#msg11496312)!

Yes, that user got kicked from his campaign immediately