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... Does not exist.

Looking through the recent pump scam. Please all remember that the price does not matter, the systems fundamentals do. Anything else is just hype.
Let's consider for a moment that the network is slowly stagnating as blocks reach their maximum size. Bitcoin still does not scale.

We have been promised 'everything will be fixed in time', this 'time' has long passed.

The community has been taken over by scammers, many developers have ran away to more promising projects, development in general has halted, mining has become centralized by the Chinese.

IF we want bitcoin to survive in one form or the other, we have to work together and address all its problems.

I want to propose a fork to address all the big issues in bitcoin, mainly scaleability, anonymity, speed and security.

Please send me a PM if you are a skilled experienced programmer or cryptography expert, also we will need people to promote the new fork but let's work on the actual fork first.

Let's show everyone how bitcoin was supposed to be right from the start.

You....will be our leader?  ;D

well many people told same things few years ago, that bitcoin is a scam, that bitcoin is another ponzi scheme and such, but bitcoin is alive to this day, and will be alive in future

so i think that bitcoin will have very, very clear future : it's price will be large, more people will use it and of course more stores will accept it so people will like bitcoin even more than now

Sure, except you're forgetting the network will stop working once blocks are full all the time. Nobody in his right mind want to use a fully NSA traceavle currency anyway. We have to improve on these points as many alts already have.

It's quite simple to be honest. Instead of constantly throwing with hate and negativity, why don't you just simply leave this "horrible" "broken" "NSA traceable" "worthless" currency? Abandon your account, and you're done! Easy. :)

The Mother Of All Trolls wants us to fork bitcoin and he will lead us to a better tomorrow. Pure comedy gold here. Looks like desperation has reached a new level.

As you say most of the threads are here and i have read it but now bitcoin is still alive and of course we all know that bitcoin will be remain in future.
As you say, we should do something for bitcoins. It is a big proof we all are here and still we all are using the bitcoins, instead of negative thinking, and kind for information recently i can't hear anything wrong as you say, may be you are right and may be i am right.       

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Well i can join as your supporter if you can increase the speed of transaction.. i can only promote it other skills like program i have a little knowledge but better to find other high knowledge about programming crypto.

Are you seriously expecting to be taken seriously ?  ;D

The most consistently-wrong, fear-mongering, doom-preaching, rationally-challenged baby bear with the all time forum track record of the highest inverse ratio of "fact" pronouncements vs credible evidence, and *you are going to lead a new bitcoin fork ? Hahahaa

As I have said before, Mate, you couldn't be any *less believable if you wore a squirting flower and a propellor tie and sat on a whoopee cushion.

I really wonder why you bother sometimes.  

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Remember to always listen to kwukduck, the guy that has been saying Bitcoin would go down for ages now and making all kind of wrong predictions.

You can find his latest hits here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1492374.0

So the ultimate question begs to be asked, does the halving finally get canceled or what?

Whoever is paying kwuckduck to make these shill posts should fire him.  Price keeps going up.  He has no credibility.

Says the guy who was trying to talk the price down on multiple occasions.  ::)

It is really hard to predict for what will happen in the future with Bitcoin and that is because Bitcoin is a currency so you dont even know what will happen.
But the best thing that you have to do is that people must know that it is always changing so holding will be not that bad.

yeah the price is still going up and it seems that it will go up for a while

the future of bitcoins will surely be bright in my opinion thus allowing people to make good investments

So how do you think bitcoin not have good start and in your opinion how a good start for bitcoin, leader :D

why it should? the halving currently it's the only reason why the price is increasing

without the hype for the halving will be stuck at 4xx level for unknown and unnecessary long time

The best support to bitcoin is that we should have to create more stores for bitcoin payment system, in that people will remain on bitcoin for longer time and they will not face any problem while purchase with bitcoin. and we should have to spread this technology to every person on the world.

so you just change the way you put your message into words? right? every single post of yours is about bitcoin being doomed. back when price was stable with little movements you said this directly by saying it is going to get dumped and reach $100 and now you say the same thing indirectly.

all the while bitcoin is rising directly :D

The future of bitcoin is guaranteed, in one form or another. it is just a matter of time before dollar goes up or down, euro goes to crapper, and same will happen with other currencies. look at what happened in Russia , or Island. now China is doing something similar, and with worlrd trade it will end up beeing easier to have same currency everywhere, and all will be able to benchmark countries with top lists. It may not be called bitcoin, but it will be some form of non paper, non gold related currency.

So? Remember the tulip mania? Just because something is being hyped doesn't mean it's fundamentals are right or effective or even functional for its purpose.

Realize bitcoin does not scale first and that there is no solution in sight, even though we've been promised it will be solved in time. Currently any solution would cause a hardfork bringing a whole shtload of drama and 'sides' with it.

And that's only one of the big issues that just need to be addressed before bitcoin can really be a thing with a future.

It is so nice to see people with Bitcoin now because you see also that it is becoming more popular and more used and that is perfect for the currency itself and also even for the future so that is really nice.
But buying Bitcoins will be not that bad and that is because you also can see now that the price has started to rise slowly so that is nice for the people that has waited for a price increase.

the future of the bitcoin would be very nice the price of the bitcoin would be very high look at the price right now so i think that the price in the future would be many times higher than he is right now.

i dont think the future will bring allot of good things with them for the bitcoin only becasue there are allot of people who never want to sell their coins and coins need to be spent for price increases

Without the cancellation of halving, the fork proposed would be incomplete. As you say, the price keeps increasing for the singular reason of the coming halving, but the OP says that the price (its rise) is nothing more than just sheer hype, so the removal of halving seems to be the right (if not the best) thing to get done in the fork, right?

In short, you can't eat your cake and have it (though you can still try to eat it twice, lol)

But you keep on speculating and the opposite event happen, so I say this is a good news for bitcoin then because future of bitcoin does really exist?(Opposite of what you say)

I'll take my chances. I actually agree with you that fundamentals are all that matters, which is why bitcoin is crushing it. I fully expect to make millions more ignoring nonsense about ponzis, whales, and other ignorant ideas. Not that I'm complaining. Maybe this does suppress the price a bit and allow me to amass more. I could not be happier with my returns.

OP is the tool that recommended everyone sell at $200, $300, $400 and now... just a reminder to noobs who sees "legendary" and thinks they know what they're talking about

Everyone visiting this corner have to know kwukduck and his epic fail predictions  ;)


Well i would agree with the mining part but for the developers dunno if it was better for the community or not  :)

The future will be very good to the bitcoin and that is becasue there will always be peole investing with bitcoins and that is really good for the future of the bitcoin.

True that. We became "legends" by wasting our time on these forums.  ;D
I base my optimism on facts and encourage anyone to ignore things like my status. The reality is that:

1. Sentiment about bitcoin is higher than ever.
2. More people use it than ever.
3. There are more use cases than ever.
4. There is more money in the network than ever.
5. It is more broadly accepted for payments than ever.
6. There is more investment in supporting the network than ever.

Like I said earlier, the war is over. ;)





 

The future of bitcoin is very bright for sure as we will see many new users and investors will invest their money into and many sites and companies will start accepting bitcoin as a payment method.

Yeah, fiat didn't come

yes, as more and more people jump into the bitcoin the better it is for it because in my opinion it allows the price grow more and attracts more new investors and companies to bitcoin

i hope that the future of bitcoin will be really bright and we will see huge numbers pretty soon, in my opinion fiat will have no future compared to bitcoin as it is perfect

assuming that the op is right, and he isn't, saying that it is only about hype it's half correct, without it the hype would not be there and the price would not skyrocket so much, also there would be even more dumping because miners do not care and they still would have 50 btc block

the halving reduce that dumping from miners, allowing for a natural increase of the price, besides the "sheer hype"...

If you assume that the OP is right, you can't at the same time assume that he is only half correct, lol. Your logic is incomprehensible as well as your language

Fiat and bitcoin will go in hand in hand, as people who are not comfortable with digital world will continue to use fiat and rest will use bitcoin, both of them have great scope in future.

the future of bitcoin is definitely great this currency is the best and this will surely be a really great currency in the future in my opinion

Are you really all too ignorant about flawed fundamentals?

I think somebody needs to put down the crazy doomsaying pills and look at everything. Some of the world's greatest developers are working on a fix for the block size. This can be expected in 6 months I feel like as they just had a conference on it. It's not a pump scam, the supply is going down by 50% and people are buying speculating on the change it will have.

if you want us to work together and address all the btc problems, you would have to manipulate btc price to get us involve though. just look at its value today.
i don't think you can convince to join for now, maybe after halving.

With friends like kwukduck, who needs enemies?

your lack of understanding or possible trolling is concerning me some times, saying that he is not right have more than 1 meaning, in this case he is not fully right but only partially....

the price is increase because of the hype around the halving for now and subsequently because of the less reward that will be present in few weeks, so not only because of pure hype like many think

also i suspect that this increase has to d0 with other big things, like yuan getting worthless and chinese moving their funds to bitcoin and brexit...

It is really hard to predict the future of Bitcoin and that is because you have to know that Bitcoin is a currency so you almost never know what will happen in the future.
But the best thing that you can do now with Bitcoin itself is that you have to hold it for a moment and wait for the right moment to sell it.

The future will be verry nice for the bitcoin because there will always be people who are investing in bitcoins and i dont think they would stop doing that.

The bitcoin would be verry popular in the future for sure if you see right now there are so many people interested in the bitcoin so the future must be bright for this cryptocurrencie.

The future will be veery nice to the bitcoin because in the future there will be many more peopel are using the coins for sure.

The future of the bitcoin what will it bring i think that the future will bring good things for the bitcoin and i think that the price will be that high that no body is interested to buy and only investments are popular.

But you assumed that he was right, not that he was wrong (or right only in part to a limited extent)


That's why I'm asking if the OP is going to cancel halving, since it is the first thing that should be done, assuming he is right, i.e. that much of the price increase (say over 90%) is due to sheer hype and heavy brainwashing linked to halving...

Isn't this the same what you were assuming too?

Even if price goes higher people will prefer to buy as they know it can go much higher in future too, so I don't think we need to worry about the future of bitcoin, its pretty good.

i think the op is just talking from his ass, he don't know if he is right or not, and hopefully he can not cancel any halving, or we would be screwed

also i believe the current price increase it's due probably to 50% halving, another 30% chinese moving from yuan, and 20% brexit, then the 50% will reduce to 40% and you have that 10% because of the halved block reward as you speculated

You are playing with percentages a bit too loosely. You just can't take one percentage, subtract it from another and then claim the difference to represent a ratio. Just for your educational purposes, if you subtract two percentages, as a result you get percentage points, not percents...

As I once told you, you shouldn't have skipped classes in school, since the lack of basic education severely betrays you

As technology keeps on developing, I can say that its true that in the future bitcoin will be spread and be use internationally by different countries and I hope this soon will not take so long.

don't lose yourself too much into semantic, it's worth shit, not worth debating and not worth my time with that

what i said it's just to give you an idea, no need to be the "finicky guy"....that's what i call useless precision...

future belongs to the new technologies and bitcoin is one of the most promising one of them, and in the near future we will definitely see bitcoin grow so much bigger and become accepted all over the world and  even by those who haven't even heard about bitcoin yet.

Then don't get surprised if you are being constantly misunderstood due to your indiscriminate use and promiscuous confusion of diverse notions, concepts and ideas, i.e. the opposite of what you call "useless precision"...

Though, as I said, it is no more than a lack of basic education and thought discipline

I have been consistently wrong and missed out of tons of profits over time.. however, one pattern i've noticed are these incredible pumps before big auctions.

I would not be surprised if this pump is orchestrated by vested interests in BTC to make sure auction bidderds buy the 25,000 BTC as high as possible so they can't manipulate the price as well as the current whales can. 

I would not be surprised if the price tanks around june 20 / June 21.

it's not a lack of basic education, it's just a way to teach thing faster like you do with your code in programmer area

you will optimize it by removing the useless things to make it faster, i do it in the same way with our language, certain things do not need to be explained with an eli5, they can be understood easily it depend on the context

So you are a teacher, wtf?

There is a saying in English (and I guess in many other languages too) about those who can that do, and those who can't that teach