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Title: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: cryptohustla on June 21, 2016, 12:56:30 PM
guys can you explain pls how does roll over and roll under means and when to use it?

and because i am having issue with satoshidice i searched for a good review dice game and i am currently playing primedice and safedice this made me confuse in satoshidice there is no such thing its very straight forward or i just dont really know what it means so pls help and explain to me pls :D


Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: fullypak on June 21, 2016, 06:28:35 PM
guys can you explain pls how does roll over and roll under means and when to use it?

and because i am having issue with satoshidice i searched for a good review dice game and I am currently playing primedice and safedice this made me confuse in satoshidice there is no such thing its very straight forward or I just dont really know what it means so pls help and explain to me pls :D

In Dice game, this is the main problem when we go for high, and when we go for low, we are not sure. This Dice game is purely based on luck only so here you will not find any safe method how to play Dice game. But what you choose sites to play Primedice and Safedice is good sites for Dice game. Here the only method checks your luck with Dice game.


Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: Nixtren on June 21, 2016, 06:38:13 PM
Usually when you play at dice games a random number is generated. Let's suppose the website generates a number from 1 to 100 and you're playing with 50% win chance.

Generated number: 34

If you bet "high", you will win the bet if the generated number is above 50. If you bet "low", you will win the bet if the generated number is under 50.

So in this case, you would win the bet if you choose "low", because the generated number is less than 50.



Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: DarkStar_ on June 21, 2016, 06:57:49 PM
guys can you explain pls how does roll over and roll under means
It mean what number you have to roll over/under, based on what you picked to win. If you were playing with a 1.5x multiplier, you would have to roll over 33.33 to win if you picked over, or under 66.66 if you picked under.
when to use it?
You don't know when you use it. If you did, then the whole point would be ruined, since you would be able to win every roll. Maybe if you kept rolling low numbers and bet on high, then switch it to under, or if a number feels unlucky.
and because i am having issue with satoshidice i searched for a good review dice game and i am currently playing primedice and safedice this made me confuse in satoshidice there is no such thing its very straight forward or i just dont really know what it means so pls help and explain to me pls :D
Satoshidice makes your roll under, because of how the website is set up. You are always rolling under, and can't change it.


Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: JasonXG on June 22, 2016, 02:28:53 AM
guys can you explain pls how does roll over and roll under means and when to use it?

and because i am having issue with satoshidice i searched for a good review dice game and i am currently playing primedice and safedice this made me confuse in satoshidice there is no such thing its very straight forward or i just dont really know what it means so pls help and explain to me pls :D
Rollover means you bet through what you have once. So if you risk a total of 100btc and start with 100btc then that's once. But remember it goes back and forth because you win and lose all the time.


Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: pooya87 on June 22, 2016, 04:03:31 AM
guys can you explain pls how does roll over and roll under means and when to use it?

and because i am having issue with satoshidice i searched for a good review dice game and i am currently playing primedice and safedice this made me confuse in satoshidice there is no such thing its very straight forward or i just dont really know what it means so pls help and explain to me pls :D

dice is the same everywhere, if you are playing on primedice it is the same rules everywhere else too. the only difference can be in the house edge that will result in different numbers for higher than or lower than. and also some of them have decimal for example it is higher than 49.52 instead of 49 which will increase the number of results you may get.


Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: Erza on June 22, 2016, 04:26:20 AM
Usually when you play at dice games a random number is generated. Let's suppose the website generates a number from 1 to 100 and you're playing with 50% win chance.

Generated number: 34

If you bet "high", you will win the bet if the generated number is above 50. If you bet "low", you will win the bet if the generated number is under 50.

So in this case, you would win the bet if you choose "low", because the generated number is less than 50.



Nope you are wrong on this. In gambling game there is no 50% chance of winning because there is always houseedege which means if you do 2x multiplier with 1% house edge you will bet 50.5 for high and 49.5 for low. This is what i know, so it doesnt mean 2 times thar next one you will win because sometimes you will get the number between 49.5 and 50.5


Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: relq on June 22, 2016, 06:42:18 AM
When to use it ? I think it's pure luck on dice game and it's no method that is the right time to use hi or low. Buy my method is always change hi and low.


Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: Caladonian on June 22, 2016, 06:57:16 AM
only house knows dice game is only a game of luck no is sure how did the results happen, i think no explanation about it,
and the results only dictates by the system so whatever happen it is only the computer/system will tell.


Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: fulgdenea on June 22, 2016, 07:07:43 AM
There is calculation method for dice game which can predict for us that roll will go high or low with 2x payout, dice game is based on luck so if we had a lucky day than we can make profit otherwise it is reaaly hard to go with exact prediction.


Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: Nixtren on June 22, 2016, 07:18:08 AM
Usually when you play at dice games a random number is generated. Let's suppose the website generates a number from 1 to 100 and you're playing with 50% win chance.

Generated number: 34

If you bet "high", you will win the bet if the generated number is above 50. If you bet "low", you will win the bet if the generated number is under 50.

So in this case, you would win the bet if you choose "low", because the generated number is less than 50.



Nope you are wrong on this. In gambling game there is no 50% chance of winning because there is always houseedege which means if you do 2x multiplier with 1% house edge you will bet 50.5 for high and 49.5 for low. This is what i know, so it doesnt mean 2 times thar next one you will win because sometimes you will get the number between 49.5 and 50.5

You're right, I forgot to say "house edge not included" ;D
Though with 1% house edge it should be 49/51 instead of 49.5/50.5 (that's 0.5% house edge).


Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: JasonXG on June 23, 2016, 06:21:06 PM
Usually when you play at dice games a random number is generated. Let's suppose the website generates a number from 1 to 100 and you're playing with 50% win chance.

Generated number: 34

If you bet "high", you will win the bet if the generated number is above 50. If you bet "low", you will win the bet if the generated number is under 50.

So in this case, you would win the bet if you choose "low", because the generated number is less than 50.



Nope you are wrong on this. In gambling game there is no 50% chance of winning because there is always houseedege which means if you do 2x multiplier with 1% house edge you will bet 50.5 for high and 49.5 for low. This is what i know, so it doesnt mean 2 times thar next one you will win because sometimes you will get the number between 49.5 and 50.5

You're right, I forgot to say "house edge not included" ;D
Though with 1% house edge it should be 49/51 instead of 49.5/50.5 (that's 0.5% house edge).

Yes that's true or vice versa. Meaning your payout is not 2x but a little less and the odds are 50/50 .


Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: minime0105 on June 24, 2016, 03:51:21 AM
It's more of luck because rolls are already set by the server seed, and your preferred client seed. There's no way to know what will be the next roll unless you know the server seed.


Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: Superhitech on June 24, 2016, 04:03:22 AM
and because i am having issue with satoshidice i searched for a good review dice game and i am currently playing primedice and safedice this made me confuse in satoshidice there is no such thing its very straight forward or i just dont really know what it means so pls help and explain to me pls :D
Satoshidice makes your roll under, because of how the website is set up. You are always rolling under, and can't change it.

Honestly OP, there is no point in changing the hi/low, as it won't make much of a difference, as the odds are still 50/50, (Or as close as they get to 50/50 depending on how big the house edge is).

It's kind like flipping a coin, regardless if you bet heads or tails, it won't make much of a difference in the end. More of a psychological thing, giving the illusion of letting people have more "control" on their bets.


Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: janggernaut on June 24, 2016, 04:14:41 AM
It's more of luck because rolls are already set by the server seed, and your preferred client seed. There's no way to know what will be the next roll unless you know the server seed.
i think we all already know if theres just a luck in gambling, but OP didn't ask that question, he asked whats "roll hi and low". and for OP, i think the best way how you know it just try betting by yourself, and you'll know whats that means.


Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: JasonXG on June 24, 2016, 05:42:11 PM
guys can you explain pls how does roll over and roll under means and when to use it?

and because i am having issue with satoshidice i searched for a good review dice game and i am currently playing primedice and safedice this made me confuse in satoshidice there is no such thing its very straight forward or i just dont really know what it means so pls help and explain to me pls :D

Try a free dice site and practice till you understand I dont see the big deal here?


Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: minime0105 on June 24, 2016, 05:48:33 PM
It's more of luck because rolls are already set by the server seed, and your preferred client seed. There's no way to know what will be the next roll unless you know the server seed.
i think we all already know if theres just a luck in gambling, but OP didn't ask that question, he asked whats "roll hi and low". and for OP, i think the best way how you know it just try betting by yourself, and you'll know whats that means.

I just said it because he also told in Op's statement----when to use the high and low. Anyways, yeah, better go in a dice site and try it yourself, it can be easily learned.


Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: cryptohustla on July 02, 2016, 03:03:47 AM
guys thank you so much for an informative inputs.. anyway i tried safedice and primedice and yeah hi and lo is just the same i mean when we based it in luck so i think its really just an illusion and no point using hi and lo because you dont know when to use it


Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: Patatas on July 02, 2016, 03:58:27 AM
guys thank you so much for an informative inputs.. anyway i tried safedice and primedice and yeah hi and lo is just the same i mean when we based it in luck so i think its really just an illusion and no point using hi and lo because you dont know when to use it
No.Basically,people use high/lows to predict the next outcome by studying the previous patterns which technically we refer to as "martingles".If you're playing at 50% winning chances ,and your first roll is low ,you can assume your second roll could be either high or a low.Assuming you get 2 lows in a row ,you can 100% sure in this case your third roll would be a high,but again that's not true as long as the site is provably fair.


Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: Daffadile on July 04, 2016, 02:41:29 AM
guys thank you so much for an informative inputs.. anyway i tried safedice and primedice and yeah hi and lo is just the same i mean when we based it in luck so i think its really just an illusion and no point using hi and lo because you dont know when to use it
No.Basically,people use high/lows to predict the next outcome by studying the previous patterns which technically we refer to as "martingles".If you're playing at 50% winning chances ,and your first roll is low ,you can assume your second roll could be either high or a low.Assuming you get 2 lows in a row ,you can 100% sure in this case your third roll would be a high,but again that's not true as long as the site is provably fair.

If it went from 2 lows then to a high and you knew it then it wouldn't have provably fair it would be in your favor. But I know what you mean xP
Even after 10000 rolls then next roll still has a 50/50 chance. Very complex and interesting maths behind it.

guys thank you so much for an informative inputs.. anyway i tried safedice and primedice and yeah hi and lo is just the same i mean when we based it in luck so i think its really just an illusion and no point using hi and lo because you dont know when to use it

Pleasure !! <3


Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: Erza on July 04, 2016, 02:49:34 AM
guys thank you so much for an informative inputs.. anyway i tried safedice and primedice and yeah hi and lo is just the same i mean when we based it in luck so i think its really just an illusion and no point using hi and lo because you dont know when to use it
No.Basically,people use high/lows to predict the next outcome by studying the previous patterns which technically we refer to as "martingles".If you're playing at 50% winning chances ,and your first roll is low ,you can assume your second roll could be either high or a low.Assuming you get 2 lows in a row ,you can 100% sure in this case your third roll would be a high,but again that's not true as long as the site is provably fair.

That is impossible to predict that kind of outcome because hi or low games doesnt have 50% winning chance, although it has 50% chance the payout must not be 2x because there is still house edge which mean you can't win so easily. Sometimes you can suffer some red streak so like you said 100% on the third roll is impossible thing. If that is the case people will not suffer much loss anymore


Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: Dajackal on July 04, 2016, 02:51:00 AM
When im playing dice I always go low. Because im born in the beginning of a month.


Title: Re: Dice game roll hi and lo what is it and when to use?
Post by: Daffadile on July 08, 2016, 06:40:13 PM
Usually when you play at dice games a random number is generated. Let's suppose the website generates a number from 1 to 100 and you're playing with 50% win chance.

Generated number: 34

If you bet "high", you will win the bet if the generated number is above 50. If you bet "low", you will win the bet if the generated number is under 50.

So in this case, you would win the bet if you choose "low", because the generated number is less than 50.



Nope you are wrong on this. In gambling game there is no 50% chance of winning because there is always houseedege which means if you do 2x multiplier with 1% house edge you will bet 50.5 for high and 49.5 for low. This is what i know, so it doesnt mean 2 times thar next one you will win because sometimes you will get the number between 49.5 and 50.5

Not exactly. The house edge can effect the odds like you have said, or the edge can effect the payout. I'ts really the same thing. Like when you do a 2x you get a 1.98 for the win. Oh and I'm not sure why you think you can get between 49.5 and 50.5 that is not possible as there are only 2 possible outcomes not 3 like you claim.