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Between you and CfB, who is the evil guy?

It would be simpler to understand if you said buy some nxt, hold them, and you get some free Ardor coins. Explain how anyone holding nxt in his wallet during the following three months gets a share of the new Ardor coin proportional to the number of nxt he holds.

Saying "the Nxt core dev team is letting anyone get into the blockchain space with a new child chain platform, Ardor" is too technical to understand.

I have bought some nxt and want my free Ardor coins, and the nxt price chart shows others are buying nxt to get their share of the free Ardor coins.

I think Ardor is a good idea but it could be promoted better with simpler explanations of how to get free Ardor coins.

Ardor in Forbes

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogeraitken/2016/06/21/nxt-crypto-blockchain-team-prepares-ardor-scalable-child-chain-platform/#32e4edc3349b

Wow, impressed guys! :) Great job!

Great features but I doubt it will gain any traction.

Why would that be? Everything is gaining traction these days, justified or not

For all the people that complain about ICOs, I'm surprised they are not coming aboard yet.

People did not like the distribution of NXT and it was a major concern, now ARDOR is to be obtained by using NXT, how does this solve the distribution issue?  NXT whales will get a major chunk of ARDOR right? BTW I like nxt, bought some more after the announcement of ARDOR but am curious about this issue.

Final question: why do we need ardor when we have nxt, is it to just raise funds or will ardor be significantly better than nxt?

all for community currencies or game currencies that are targeted to "ordinary people" and not to experts or cryptocurrency nerds.

Hope we will get a similar graph today... but I expect a small dump and tomorrow another pump. Up and down we go!  ;D

for now it looks like a good rollercoaster, small pumps and dumps.

WAVES is also by the NXT team right? I think i heard something like that.

Not really by the NXT team. Waves is created by a few members of the Nxt Community (Coinomat).

for real? buhahaha

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Scorex is less than _4K lines of Scala code_. Transactions layer is as simple as just tokens transfers. Consensus algo  could be switched easily(with two consensus algos out of the box,  one could be replaced with an another with just one line of code edited!)

* Major coins forks are trying to make IPO immediately, often having just one or two pretty controversial features introduced. **Scorex is intentionally not production-ready**, so please participate in any  non-commercial experiments built on top of it, but don't buy tokens unless you are 100+% sure what are you doing.
 

Features

* Two 100% Proof-of-Stake consensus algos out of the box, Nxt-like and Qora-like. One algo could be replaced with an another with just one line of code edited (in Constants.scala)

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Any ETA for Ardor release?

http://nxt.org/roadmap/

thanks


can you please tell me what "fxt snapshot period" is?

The fxt isn't correct anymore. It's called Ardor now. You will get Ardor tokens for average amount of NXT you hold in your account in the snapshot period. Every hour a snapshot is made and after 3 months you will get the average amount in Ardor tokens (Nxt2.0).

https://nxtforum.org/core-development-announcements/(ann)-ardor-or-nxt-2-0-a-scalable-child-chain-platform

I am very interested in ARDOR NXT, so I will keep a close eye on this one.

Is the snapshot hour known?

Snapshots will start be taken on an hourly basis, starting on July 14th to October 12th. Then, your total NXT will be averaged, and you'll receive that amount in Ardor tokens on October 12th, which will be freely tradeable up until the Ardor system launches.

At block 1,000,000 on October 12th, 2016, snapshotting will stop, and you'll be allowed to trade your Ardor tokens in NXT 1.9 in preparation for the launch of the Ardor blockchain.

New name is pretty weird. I  just hope most of original BCNext ideas would remain.

He personally agreed with it!  :)

https://nxtforum.org/core-development-announcements/(ann)-ardor-or-nxt-2-0-a-scalable-child-chain-platform/msg219417/#msg219417

Very interesting. This is big news.

What Do You Think About ARDOR / NXT2.0? Are you looking forward to it? Do you want to have it? Or are you just like what?

I want ARDOR / NXT2.0 so badly I spent most of my bitcoins buying NXT so I can get my share of ARDOR / NXT2.0 for hodling them. ARDOR will be a top ten coin with all the cool new stuff it will have, and i want to be an early adopter of it who bought in at the bottom.

Good decision, when we have been our Ardor, its price round about 20x

i voted up for ardor Yes, give me Ardor.but try to enhance the security with the blockchain and not to repeat the story of DAO & eth.

The comparison with Ethereum is that Ethereum tries to do smart contracts, where the Ardor child-chains do smart (phased) transactions, which is a lot easier (and thus more secure).

i voted up for ardor Yes, give me Ardor.but try to enhance the security with the blockchain and not to repeat the story of DAO & eth.

how are smart phased transactions different from smart contracts?

In a nutshell, a smart contract allows you to write code to do just about anything (including potential dangerous stuff).
Advantages are you have a lot more freedom to do whatever you want, the drawbacks is obviously security (if you have a bug in your contract someone could exploit that), and thus it will require more time to learn to code properly & test your contracts.

With smart transactions you don't write any code, the functions are already pre-defined within the protocol. You just pass in your desired parameters.
The advantages are the opposite of smart contracts, it's more secure, it takes less time for you to learn, code & test.
The drawbacks is that you are limited to the functions that exists in the core client.

Not sure if that makes any sense, or if it is even the correct definitions.
It is my understanding anyway.

Update to this release on mainnet is optional up until block 1000000 (Oct 12), however users are advised to do it earlier, as after July 14th updating will trigger a blockchain rescan.

Update to NXT client 1.9.2
https://nxtforum.org/nrs-releases/nrs-v1-9-2/

Do we still get Nxt 2.0 for holding Nxt if we don't update to Nxt client 1.9.2 until after the snapshots stop? I sent my Nxt to an address, and intend to leave them in it for the full three months of snapshots without updating or syncing my wallet.

Do we still get Nxt 2.0 for holding Nxt if we don't update to Nxt client 1.9.2 until after the snapshots stop? I sent my Nxt to an address, and intend to leave them in it for the full three months of snapshots without updating or syncing my wallet.

In the new Nxt Client (1.9.2 (https://nxtforum.org/core-development-announcements/(ann)-ardor-or-nxt-2-0-a-scalable-child-chain-platform)) you can see how much Ardor you are getting realtime.

https://i.imgur.com/yfJ1CSD.png

ARDOR NXT is better than the ICOs that are everywhere. Most ICOs lose investors money like with the WAVES and RISE ICOs, but the devs get paid thousands of BITCOINS even if their coin flops. ARDOR will make investors money because it's in the devs interest to make it successful.

I don't understand how is that different.

Now you can keep your NXT.

can u guys tell me what can be done with the nxt-ardor in the real life at this point of time?

~CfA~

We can't give away too much until the final features of Ardor are tested repeatedly.

But, here are a few of the features coming with the new Ardor release:

1. Offering Blockchain as a Service - Ardor will open blockchain development to organizations and individuals across the world. The high barriers to getting started with blockchain are about to vanish.

2. Manageable Blockchain Size - Ardor will solve the problem of scalability by separating transactions and data that do not affect security from those that do, and moving all of those that don't affect security onto child chains. The Ardor team will create the first child chain to house many Nxt 1.0 tools as well as future features. This small size also comes with short transaction times so processes need only a fraction of time compared to Bitcoin to execute functions.

3. A Decentralized Asset Exchange - Building off of the Asset Exchange on Nxt, Ardor will enable the ability to trade assets on any child chain for any of the child chain tokens. This allows child chains to interact with each other and opens up numerous opportunities for collaboration as well as allow cross chain asset trading, a long-requested feature within the Nxt ecosystem.

4. Decentralized Voting and Governance Systems - Ardor will be at the core of decentralized consensus in the future. Secure and anonymous voting will be an available feature on all child chains as it is on the Nxt platform.

5. Phased Transactions - Users can set multiple conditions before a transaction is executed, such as a minimum number of votes and a set amount of time. Like Nxt, Ardor will use Smart Transactions. With this, users will only need to submit the parameters necessary for the transaction and the ID of the functionality they want to use. The transaction process is also completely decentralized. No centralized server, service, or application, like Ethereum’s Oracle, is needed.

“Rather than providing smart contracts, NXT is focused on implementing the important use cases and functions directly into the core of both Nxt and Ardor. This approach has proven to be scalable and secure and will become more so when Ardor is released” – Riker

These are a few of the things Ardor will give you and the cryptocurrency community. As development continues and testing is finalized, you'll get a detailed analysis of each of the new tools, as well as the core features built into Ardor. We'll also reveal, step-by-step, a list of our partners and what they're doing with our technology.

What does the ardr coin do exactly?

What does the ardr coin do exactly?

Nxt and Ardor very specifically did not go for scriptable Smart Contracts. There are several reasons for not doing so:

1. You have no way of controlling the quality of the code. This can lead to unfortunate results and create huge problems.
2. A large portion of the market has need for out of the box solutions, not custom ones. Nxt and Ardor offer hardcoded and modular Smart contracts (or smart transactions) which are tested and secure. For most SME's these cover a lot of use cases and are more cost effective.
3. Lisk is still in development: Nxt already works, and has been operational for 2,5 years. Ardor will use the same tech. If a company wants to use software that's tested and tried, it should go to Nxt or Ardor (depending on the use case).
4. Waves is also still in development. Same argument as before. The idea might be sound, there is no way to predict now whether it will pull off its promise.

The child chain architecture is unique to Ardor. Lisk and Waves do not have it, neither does Ethereum. Bloat is a problem that all of them have and Ardor is the system that is concentrating on it.

is this online wallet called mynxt wallet ( https://wallet.mynxt.info ) part of nxt org, can I store my nxt there and receive ardor safely.

Thanks for your help  :) in advance

p.s Also whats the difference between installing nxt client and web wallet. Installing the nxt client takes a lot of bandwidth making it a bit expensive and time consuming.

how to coount ARDOR dristributions if not full day NXT stake (for example: 1 month nxt stake) ?

I have not fully read the Ardor concept. Will there be a new wallet for Ardor or can we still use the current updated Nxt wallet? If not, will the API change? I am currently designing a addon and I do not want to reprogram the whole stuff later again.

The MyNxt Wallet Server is Under Maintenance

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I have not fully read the Ardor concept. Will there be a new wallet for Ardor or can we still use the current updated Nxt wallet? If not, will the API change? I am currently designing a addon and I do not want to reprogram the whole stuff later again.

Don't know whether this is the right place to ask, but I'm gonna do it anyway:

I'ver read somewhere that Bittrex and Poloniex stated that they will distribute Ardor to people keeping NXT at their exchange. Is that true? They probably keep track of it themselves then, don't they? (since they don't have one wallet per user)

Why is the price for nxt rising now?? ??? Thought it should be falling a little each day as ardor snapshot approaches finish date?

Why is the price for nxt rising now?? ??? Thought it should be falling a little each day as ardor snapshot approaches finish date?

This is the oldest scam in crypto. You wait till a shitcoin dies. You buy up all the coins for nothing. You design a clever marketing plan and your PUMP PUMP PUMP.

I have saw the codes. You can not scams an African. You say "enterprise blockchain" ahahaha. Yes because Microsoft wants to use your shit ICO coins.

People are realizing they must buy NXT now if they want a slice of Ardor.

Probably in the last days of snapshoting the price will crash.

"The Nxt core dev team is letting anyone get into the blockchain space with a new child chain platform, Ardor, which will incorporate the technologies proven for years by the Nxt 1.0 cryptocurrency and blockchain. Soon, anyone will be able to create their own solutions using the blockchain technology with the Ardor child chains."

What Do You Think About ARDOR / NXT2.0? Are you looking forward to it? Do you want to have it? Or are you just like what?

~CfA~

Check out the presentation from last week from Lior Yaffe (username Riker).
He's one of the core developers of Nxt/Ardor and he talks about the future.

https://i.imgur.com/vydLKuW.png (https://youtu.be/soHe4UMyCCk)

https://youtu.be/soHe4UMyCCk

Slides: https://bitcoil.co.il/files/Advanced.Concepts.in.Blockchain.Design.pptx and http://prezi.com/x8jyard5-h51/

Filmed during Israel Bitcoin Meetup in Tel Aviv on 27 July 2016