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Title: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Spoetnik on June 22, 2016, 06:12:43 AM
Do you think you are a Satanist ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Satan

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The Church of Satan describes its structural basis as a cabal that is "an underground cell-system of individuals who share the basis of [our] philosophy"

The church does not believe in or worship the Devil or a Christian notion of Satan.[4] High priest Peter Gilmore describes its members as "skeptical atheists", embracing the Hebrew root of the word "Satan" as "adversary". The church views Satan as a positive archetype who represents pride, individualism, and enlightenment, and as a symbol of defiance against the Abrahamic faiths which LaVey criticized for what he saw as the suppression of humanity's natural instincts

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The Church does not espouse a belief in Satan as an entity who literally exists,[10] and LaVey did not encourage the worship of Satan as a deity.[11] In an interview with David Shankbone, High Priest Peter Gilmore stated "My real feeling is that anybody who believes in supernatural entities on some level is insane. Whether they believe in the Devil or God, they are abdicating reason".[12] Gilmore defines the word "Satan" as "a model or a mode of behavior", noting that in Hebrew the word means "adversary" or "opposer", which can be regarded as "one who questions".[12] Gilmore describes Satanism as beginning with atheism, and taking the view that the universe is indifferent: "There’s no God, there’s no Devil. No one cares!"[12]

VOTE !

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Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: fiscorcle on June 22, 2016, 08:11:34 AM
i voted for no, i would vote for NO too if the question was Do you believe in God? I'm into karma stuff ;D


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: macartem on June 22, 2016, 08:29:23 AM
Why would such surveys?


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Spoetnik on June 22, 2016, 09:13:29 AM
If you can read you *should* see why i posted.

And i too believe in Karma guy (this prob goes against the Satanic church i bet)

All i was hoping is you would all read the small info i quoted.
I personally found the Wikipedia article to be an interesting read.
Like it says that some crazy kid contacted the leader of the church
muttering some crap about wanting to kill for Satan..
So the church called the FBI on him and he was arrested.
They do not support wacko crap like that.

Read it and understand what you oppose people !
Forget about the stigma associated with the term Satanist..
and just read it !

It's about learning people.. scared of knowledge ?

Oh and that other topic is from last year guys ;)


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Vod on June 22, 2016, 09:17:07 AM
i voted for no, i would vote for NO too if the question was Do you believe in God? I'm into karma stuff ;D

Believing in karma is the same as believing in a god.

Both are machines/mechanisms that deliver good things to good people (and bad to bad) without any kind of scientific reasoning.


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: fiscorcle on June 22, 2016, 09:30:22 AM
i voted for no, i would vote for NO too if the question was Do you believe in God? I'm into karma stuff ;D

Believing in karma is the same as believing in a god.

Both are machines/mechanisms that deliver good things to good people (and bad to bad) without any kind of scientific reasoning.
not true, karma stuff is more like subjective philosophy in my opinion. And also it's logical when you do bad things you can't expect good things happening to you "for free" :)


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Vod on June 22, 2016, 09:34:26 AM
And also it's logical when you do bad things you can't expect good things happening to you "for free" :)

You can't expect good or bad things to happen to you based on your previous actions.

Karma is just a imaginary way for wronged people to feel better about themselves.   :-\


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Spoetnik on June 22, 2016, 03:28:09 PM
i voted for no, i would vote for NO too if the question was Do you believe in God? I'm into karma stuff ;D

Believing in karma is the same as believing in a god.

Both are machines/mechanisms that deliver good things to good people (and bad to bad) without any kind of scientific reasoning.

According to the Church of Satan in that scenario it can be explained as.
The underlying Scientific procedure just has not been discovered yet.
(or would be to hard to explain)

Further more it does work as intended ..like it or not.
I can provide real world examples in my life.

For one thing your own mind can MAKE it happen.
If you think you deserve to fail you are far more likely to do so.
Basketball is a good example.. much of it is mental.

Also others SEE what you do.. and then you get treated accordingly.
I made some recent kind gestures for someone i know recently..
And a friend of mine did nothing but bend over backwards hiding.
I got rewarded and he got shit on big time.
I have a good reputation of being a positive person and he has a rep of being a negative douche.

What comes around goes around.. it IS actually a real thing !

Care to explain Quantum entanglement ?
We don't know everything..


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: BADecker on June 22, 2016, 05:37:09 PM
No. But Spoetnik is. fiscorcle even says so - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1522892.0.

 :D ;D :D... ;)


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Spoetnik on June 22, 2016, 07:46:54 PM
If you are here arguing and you do not believe in god and have much of the same philosophy in life
then you are LOL

Your posting here to say you are "NOT" is proof you ARE !

For the 10th time.. read the definition ;)


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: BADecker on June 22, 2016, 08:01:23 PM
If you are here arguing and you do not believe in god and have much of the same philosophy in life
then you are LOL

Your posting here to say you are "NOT" is proof you ARE !

For the 10th time.. read the definition ;)

When you become a true Christian, God blocks the Satanic quantum entanglement out of your life to a great extent. God opens up freedom for you. It doesn't mean that you will never sin again, nor that you stop looking at sin. What it means is that satanism doesn't have nearly as much control over you. And the control that it has will not deprive you of eternal life in Heaven.

8)


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Spoetnik on June 23, 2016, 03:14:06 AM
@BADecker

In other words you get a holy get-out-of-jail free card that never expires.

I sin ?
Such as using a condom which the Vatican declared a sin then i burn in hell for eternity.
..and worse i get smug attitude from Christians who think they are better than me.

They sin ?
No problem.. They repent & ask for forgiveness, problem solved.

Ya no wonder Christianity is so popular LOL

PS:
Crusades..

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The first of the Crusades began in 1095, when armies of Christians from Western Europe responded to Pope Urban II's plea to go to war against Muslim forces in the Holy Land.

Sound familiar ? cough cough Muslims (Middle East War ?)

Who now has been responsible for untold amounts of deaths world wide for ages ?
..not the Church of Satan it was founded in the 60's and no other group existed like it before hand.

But i am curious you are all eager to have your little opinions..
But did you even bother to read what i posted or go to the Wikipedia link ?

..no i didn't think so LOL

That is mighty "intelligent" of you all and super duper Christian like LOL
..stereo-typing and condemning people you won't even listen to when they say what they are about.


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: bitboy11 on June 23, 2016, 05:07:07 AM
This is interesting...even though I would not call myself Satanic, the definitions which were posted all describe me perfectly!

I call myself an Atheist but I guess according to the Church_of_Satan, I am long past that stage. ;D


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Spoetnik on June 23, 2016, 05:57:28 AM
This is interesting...even though I would not call myself Satanic, the definitions which were posted all describe me perfectly!

I call myself an Atheist but I guess according to the Church_of_Satan, I am long past that stage. ;D

yup.. me too basically.

i always been a big fan of Heavy Metal / Death Metal / Grindcore etc etc
SO i grew up with a special place in my heart for the dark side LOL
Now i see why !

..turns out all these years i was a Satanist and never knew it.

Well fuck me eh ? LOL

Praise Satan ..i guess  :D


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: xavier77 on June 23, 2016, 06:03:30 AM
I am agnostic.


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Spoetnik on June 27, 2016, 10:21:26 AM
I am agnostic.

Is that your way of telling us you are a Satanist ?


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Attilaloe on July 04, 2016, 06:36:33 AM
No, I'm not!


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Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Ryanteck on November 11, 2016, 10:50:33 AM
no, I am not satanists. I believe in God almighty one. I believe that Satan is a creature of the damned.


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Spoetnik on November 12, 2016, 03:02:45 AM
If you guys read the Wikipedia page on The Church of Satan..
You would have noticed the church does not believe there is a real God or Satan.
Really it is a group that advocates common sense and science.

Seriously you guys really should do your homework.
This topic has showcased how much ignorance there is about Satanists.

It's pathetic because you chose to take one side over the other but..
did not bother trying to find out information on one of the sides.


In science that is called retarded.  :D

Never the less you are all surrounded but a huge percentage of Satanists !
Look at the Poll results.. we are EVERYWHERE  8)  :o


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Zisove28 on November 13, 2016, 05:07:37 PM
I am ready to become a Satanist and serve the dark forces, and even sell my soul in exchange for the achievement of the goals I have. I asked God, he does not hear me.


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Indijanos on November 13, 2016, 11:46:35 PM
I've been reading lately a lot about LaVey's atheistic satanism and I can tell you, it a lot more reasonable in some ways than any other religion.


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Indijanos on November 13, 2016, 11:48:30 PM
I am ready to become a Satanist and serve the dark forces, and even sell my soul in exchange for the achievement of the goals I have. I asked God, he does not hear me.

That's a theistic satanism, and it's as stupid as any other theistic religion. LaVey's satanism is more of a philosophy than a religion. I'd suggest you to read a little about it.


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Spoetnik on November 14, 2016, 04:11:25 AM
He made a fair point though.. i agree.
You would not need to read too much either people ..at least read the Wikipedia page.

Also this Church of Satan with LaVey etc was only founded i think like 60+ years ago.
It's said that is the oldest known organized religious group claiming to be "Satanists"
Where as the other Christianity ones are way older of course.

The so called "good" side gets a lot of attention.. the bad side is always just assumptions and guessing.
What would be the opposing side of Christianity ? LOL
I would say i oppose it.. i sure as hell don't believe the Bible.
It's full of things that are fantasy or lies etc

Doing good things is not what i object to.. it's the Pope telling me i will burn in hell for using a condom.

This topic could have been an attempt to try and discredit the other side.. i didn't go there.
I simply requested people look at the info available before making judgments.
Why only hear from one side of the story ?


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: usefrees on November 14, 2016, 06:49:47 PM
He made a fair point though.. i agree.
You would not need to read too much either people ..at least read the Wikipedia page.

Also this Church of Satan with LaVey etc was only founded i think like 60+ years ago.
It's said that is the oldest known organized religious group claiming to be "Satanists"
Where as the other Christianity ones are way older of course.

The so called "good" side gets a lot of attention.. the bad side is always just assumptions and guessing.
What would be the opposing side of Christianity ? LOL
I would say i oppose it.. i sure as hell don't believe the Bible.
It's full of things that are fantasy or lies etc

Doing good things is not what i object to.. it's the Pope telling me i will burn in hell for using a condom.

This topic could have been an attempt to try and discredit the other side.. i didn't go there.
I simply requested people look at the info available before making judgments.
Why only hear from one side of the story ?

Just everyone is trying to talk about what is important to him at the moment. And sometimes some people are very rude about someone else's opinion expressed.

And about the question - I'm not a Satanist. I do not like bigotry


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: sportis on November 14, 2016, 08:52:01 PM
The question is 'Are You Satanic ?' isn't?
 
It's easier to carry out a poll. If you still care about my answer this is no I'm not.


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Bubusak on November 15, 2016, 06:44:02 PM
No, I'm not satanic. People should just believe in themselves.


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Dank14 on November 15, 2016, 10:12:20 PM
I am ready to become a Satanist and serve the dark forces, and even sell my soul in exchange for the achievement of the goals I have. I asked God, he does not hear me.


God is more interested in you making heaven.
Seek first the kingdom of God and follow His commands (believe in Jesus) and you will receive everything you need to fulfill your destiny on earth Plus you will go to heaven and not hell after death.


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: CryptoCoinNews on November 15, 2016, 10:34:15 PM
iam not satanic
i love in peace


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Kanapka on November 16, 2016, 04:43:55 AM
where is the test ???

all I can see is a wikipedia link

not the most scholar resource in my opinion


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Spoetnik on November 16, 2016, 06:09:19 AM
where is the test ???

all I can see is a wikipedia link

not the most scholar resource in my opinion

90% of you fail to get it..
The point was to read the link.
Got it now ? I did say this 6 times already LOL

Guy earlier.. Biggotry ? and where exactly did you get that from ?
See why i said read ?

Sorry but MOST of you do not possess enough intelligence to fathom what is going on here.
Which explains the God stuff.. it feeds answers to the inept.
Rather than thinking for yourself.

I have never had a problem with most of the points / goals of the Bible.
Do good ? ya for sure.. i have no problem with that.
It's taking it to extreme lengths with a book of "facts" that get silly.

I will burn in hell according to the Vatican / Pope if i use a condom because it's a sin.
Like really ? Seriously ?

There may have been some grains of truth in the bible but i think it's mostly made up bullshit.
It is simply a collection of stories ripped off from other sources.
Such as the entire premise of Christianity which was stolen from Egyptians and many others.
Who all had their own baby Jesus and single god etc.. many hundreds of years before Christianity thought of it.

The arc of the covenant was already made by others hundreds of years before the Christians made one.
We know because we dug them out of pyramids etc.

I could go on for ages about the crap exposed with the bible..
I think a lot of it is simply made up and the timing of things are shifted.
There was a star in the sky when Jesus was born ?
Nope.. there was some other time and people just said it was like that to add credibility to their religion.
Proof ?
We have seen them adjust when they think Christ was born more than once.
The original data from way back was proven to be wrong.

Sorry but your bible bullshit is simply not believable.
And a lot of money changes hands to surround the concept too !
Go buy a Robert Tilton "prayer cloth" about it  :D


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: transabox on November 16, 2016, 06:50:19 AM
I do not believe in Satan or Jesus. These are two different facets of the same religion. And I am not part of any religion. Im free person


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Spoetnik on November 16, 2016, 02:37:44 PM
I do not believe in Satan or Jesus. These are two different facets of the same religion. And I am not part of any religion. Im free person

No actually they are not and that proves for the 8th time here you can't read.
AND have done what all the other idiots did.. assume things.

You see why i am 1,000% smarter than all of you here yet ?

I can read.. and DO :D

A key part of the assumption is Christians believe in God, Jesus and Heaven being real.
Members of "The Church of Satan" do not..

This show cases how utterly fucking inept people around the globe are.
They hear one silly stupid side of the story and then jump to conclusions
and then..... discriminate others based on your silly moronic views.

Just because you assume things about others does not make it true.
You can't justify your trashing and posting insulting crap about Satanists simply because "you think" you know things.
If you did not take the time to hear from both sides then your opinion is dog shit.
And that applies to anything.

You all should make even a small effort to get smart.. it would benefit you.  :D
Must be tough going through life as an idiot.


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: usefrees on November 16, 2016, 05:10:16 PM
And who are Satanic?
There is a clear definition?
The list of features, functions, rights, duties?


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: ZACHM on November 16, 2016, 05:23:50 PM
Your OP is in vague in regards to what you consider the alternative of Satanism.
Based on your replies you are indicating that you want to argue Satanism vs Christianity (more specifically Catholic Christianity).

Just because someone does not consider themselves a Satanist, does not mean they are Christian or believe in God, or any other particular religious entity.

I do not believe in Satan or Jesus. These are two different facets of the same religion. And I am not part of any religion. Im free person

No actually they are not and that proves for the 8th time here you can't read.
AND have done what all the other idiots did.. assume things.

Yes, they are. Satan and Jesus are part of the same religion, and the Church of Satan does not believe in either of them as a supernatural deity.

This thread was not a poll, but an attempt to start arguments i.e. trolling.

Maybe the title of the thread should have been:   "I'm smarter than you because I'm going to join the Church of Satan!"
The first post could have been something like this:

I recently read an article on Wikipedia (the be all and end all to knowledge) and discovered that the Church of Satan does not actually worship Satan, but is a church that is the adversary and opposition to all other religions. So if you are a Christian, you are an idiot. Please tell me if you are an idiot. Then I can tell you how dumb you are because you can't read.

I feel this thread is the same as the ones Christians post telling us how we are all going to hell and need to believe in God, but then when we try and state our opinion they call us an idiot.

Calling people names and being derogatory to them is not the way to win them to your side (I'm not trying to win anyone to my "side").

I'm not saying you are right or wrong in your opinion about the Church of Satan.
I'm just pointing out as you said many times, do some reading and research.
One Wikipedia article does not a firm foundation make.

Just out of curiosity have you sent in your application yet?
Here is the link for you: http://www.churchofsatan.com/docs/CS-Basic.pdf

Make sure you read it and make the check or money order out to HELL'S KITCHEN PRODUCTIONS, INC., or you can PayPal them if you wish.
I get a kick out of the fact that it is a business, not an organization as most "churches" are.



Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: Spoetnik on November 17, 2016, 01:13:06 AM
I stopped watching that show.. i use to download them etc.
Not sure about your connection to the Church of Satan or Satanist in general though.

Trolling ?
Nope i was pointing out how the reality of something is far different..
And people can't even take 2 minutes to read a Wikipedia link.

And spare me the old retort of Wikipedia is not a reputable source routine.. been there and done that. LOL
Playing that card does not invalidate the info found on Wikipedia.

And no i have no interest in "winning them over"
I am vaguely interested in getting people to get more information.. on everything (both sides)
I never said go to Wikipedia and Wikipedia ONLY.
I posted that as example assuming people would put 2 & 2 together and realize if they wanted more info then to seek it out.

Trolling or enlightenment ?
And i laugh and say people are stupid because they act like it.
I am not going to be apologetic about it.. sorry ;)

It is about far more than believing in a real Hell + Satan.
It's about a way of life or philosophy etc.

I posted this because if you took away the stigma associated with the word "Satanist"
I know many more people would vote yes i am one.. count myself in that group too.
As well as people on this topic who agreed with me.

So nope ..i was clearly not "Trolling"
And i will call a spade a spade.. deal with it.  8)


Title: Re: [TEST] Are You Satanic ?
Post by: ZACHM on November 17, 2016, 04:36:07 AM
I stopped watching that show.. i use to download them etc.

Not sure what show you are talking about? I didn't mention anything about a show, did I?

Not sure about your connection to the Church of Satan or Satanist in general though.

I have no connection to the Church of Satan or Satanist in general, did I imply such?

Trolling ?
Nope i was pointing out how the reality of something is far different..
And people can't even take 2 minutes to read a Wikipedia link.

Fair enough.

And spare me the old retort of Wikipedia is not a reputable source routine.. been there and done that. LOL
Playing that card does not invalidate the info found on Wikipedia.

I agree, my point was that Wikipedia should not be the only source.

And no i have no interest in "winning them over"
I am vaguely interested in getting people to get more information.. on everything (both sides)
I never said go to Wikipedia and Wikipedia ONLY.
I posted that as example assuming people would put 2 & 2 together and realize if they wanted more info then to seek it out.

The issue that I had with it is the attitude of the presentation being forceful.
"Here is this information, you are an idiot if you don't read it. You are also an idiot if you don't believe it."

I prefer to lead the horse to the water and let them decide if they want to drink.
I might take a drink myself to show them, but I try not to force them to drink by drowning them.

Trolling or enlightenment ?
And i laugh and say people are stupid because they act like it.
I am not going to be apologetic about it.. sorry ;)

It is about far more than believing in a real Hell + Satan.
It's about a way of life or philosophy etc.

I posted this because if you took away the stigma associated with the word "Satanist"
I know many more people would vote yes i am one.. count myself in that group too.
As well as people on this topic who agreed with me.

I agree. Many people are ignorant about many things. But the way to educate them is not by telling them they are an idiot.
That will immediately turn them away from whatever it is that you are trying to enlighten them to.

So nope ..i was clearly not "Trolling"
And i will call a spade a spade.. deal with it.  8)

I agree, but I try not to let the cover render my judgment. I try to live by: A heart until proven a spade.

I do like what you are trying to do (show people a different way to think about things), I just felt the delivery was a little off-putting.


A little disclaimer:
As I re-read this before I post, I realize that I sound like I think I'm better than other people(I'm not),
but notice I say throughout this post "I try", well, in the "real world" I don't "try" that hard and I'm pretty much an asshole.  :D