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Economy => Speculation => Topic started by: marchitcher on June 22, 2016, 05:48:29 PM



Title: Brexit/Bremain
Post by: marchitcher on June 22, 2016, 05:48:29 PM
Will brexit or bremain have some influence on btc? Is this drop because people think bremain will win? What do u think?


Title: Re: Brexit/Bremain
Post by: r0ach on June 22, 2016, 06:13:31 PM
The BTC price wasn't actually rising due to this Brexit nonsense in the first place.  It was rising due to the halving.  I don't believe the Brexit vote was legally binding or anything, and was just an "advisory" to what the govt "can" do.  When is the last time the government cared what the people want to do?  They would either rig the vote or just ignore it because the behind the scenes govt/bankers want to force people to stay in.


Title: Re: Brexit/Bremain
Post by: Ted E. Bare on June 22, 2016, 06:14:02 PM
No influence at all.


Title: Re: Brexit/Bremain
Post by: mindrust on June 22, 2016, 06:26:08 PM
I don't think it has anything to do with bitcoin, but i would keep an eye on the eur/usd and gbp/eur. If you be careful enough, you can make some fat bucks out of those pairs. They will be more volatile on upcoming days. Since you trade money for money, it is a win/win situation. I always buy the cheaper currency, when my cheaper currency becomes the expensive one, i sell and get the other cheap one. :)

Making money out of nothing :)


Title: Re: Brexit/Bremain
Post by: marchitcher on June 22, 2016, 06:35:52 PM
I made this question because the first big drop happened 17jun a day after jo cox  murder. So I was think there was connection between the rise and brexit. Now I think bremain will win so price still dropping a little and sometime it will stabilize around 600 or lower until the halving.
After the halving market will need some time to notice the reduction of supply.


Title: Re: Brexit/Bremain
Post by: spiz0r on June 22, 2016, 06:43:06 PM
I made this question because the first big drop happened 17jun a day after jo cox  murder. So I was think there was connection between the rise and brexit. Now I think bremain will win so price still dropping a little and sometime it will stabilize around 600 or lower until the halving.
After the halving market will need some time to notice the reduction of supply.


I also think there is a small corelation. Until that point betfair had an odds of 2.3 for brexit. After the murder it went down to 4.1. I think if brexit wins, we will get a new high in the price. But the main cause of bitcoin raising is the capital controlls of China and the bad economy there. Maybe I am the only one who thinks the halving already priced at 400 usd.


Title: Re: Brexit/Bremain
Post by: zimmah on June 22, 2016, 06:52:42 PM
Will brexit or bremain even have a large impact on any economy at all?
 
Brittian never used the euro in the first place, so what will leaving the eurozone actually do?

It might make travel a bit more expensive and cumbersome, or will it?

Maybe import/export will be a bit more expensive, or will it?

I doubt it makes much a difference either way, except on a political level.


Title: Re: Brexit/Bremain
Post by: criptix on June 22, 2016, 07:15:25 PM
Will brexit or bremain even have a large impact on any economy at all?
 
Brittian never used the euro in the first place, so what will leaving the eurozone actually do?

It might make travel a bit more expensive and cumbersome, or will it?

Maybe import/export will be a bit more expensive, or will it?

I doubt it makes much a difference either way, except on a political level.

Brits habe to renogotiate all existing multilateral contracts. From economy over politics to science.

But they gonna have 2 years for it - that is the timeline for an exit from the EU.


Title: Re: Brexit/Bremain
Post by: Raimonn on June 22, 2016, 10:20:45 PM
I think that brexit could increase the price of bitcoin, but more for speculation than for real thing. There are other european countries that aren't on "euro" economy and have special contracts with the other "euro" countries.


Title: Re: Brexit/Bremain
Post by: smoothie on June 22, 2016, 10:21:54 PM
BRENTRANCE vs BREXIT.....


Title: Re: Brexit/Bremain
Post by: afbitcoins on June 22, 2016, 10:27:07 PM
I think brexit has had an effect on markets such as gold and bitcoin, not to mention relevant fiat markets too. Gold / bitcoin up when exit looks likely, fiat up when remain looks likely. But in bitcoin there is the halving also influencing it and probably moreso than the brexit vote. At the very least brexit referendum has increased volatility

I will vote leave.


Title: Re: Brexit/Bremain
Post by: uki on June 22, 2016, 10:38:54 PM
No influence at all.
Fully agree. Why, on Earth any single event in the world that mostly does not know Bitcoin at all, has to have an influence on Bitcoin.
More adoption first, then the news and not the other way round.


Title: Re: Brexit/Bremain
Post by: afbitcoins on June 22, 2016, 10:52:12 PM
No influence at all.
Fully agree. Why, on Earth any single event in the world that mostly does not know Bitcoin at all, has to have an influence on Bitcoin.
More adoption first, then the news and not the other way round.


First, global markets are all interconnected, one domino can upset the lot, look at Lehman Bros in 2008. Second bitcoin is acting as a safe haven and has been seen to go up during Cyprus bailins or China capital controls for example.


Title: Re: Brexit/Bremain
Post by: glendall on June 22, 2016, 11:05:07 PM
The UK vote (brexit IMHO is such a dumb term) was part things, but only a small part. The halving is a much bigger part. But the biggest part? Speculation and confidence and mood.


Title: Re: Brexit/Bremain
Post by: uki on June 23, 2016, 06:55:57 PM
No influence at all.
Fully agree. Why, on Earth any single event in the world that mostly does not know Bitcoin at all, has to have an influence on Bitcoin.
More adoption first, then the news and not the other way round.


First, global markets are all interconnected, one domino can upset the lot, look at Lehman Bros in 2008. Second bitcoin is acting as a safe haven and has been seen to go up during Cyprus bailins or China capital controls for example.
Bitcoin has yet to establish its mark as a safe haven, similar to that PM (gold, silver, etc.) have.
We are quite far from there, as at the moment Bitcoin is merely a speculation vehicle, that is exclusively driven by speculative pumps and dumps.
Mass adoption is still a remote dream, myself would love to see it happening, but there is still plenty to be done.
If the crash, similar or worse that the one from 2008 would happen today, only a very tiny amount of money would flow into Bitcoin. An average Joe is still very far away from putting all his savings into Bitcoin. Would you?

PS. With Brexit we are talking about an event organized entirely for the needs of the internal UK politics. It hould have no impact on Bitcoin at all.