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Title: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: mOgliE on June 26, 2016, 10:59:10 AM
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/leave-remain-brexit-uk-google-trends-what-is-eu-european-union-referendum-what-happens-now

"What is the EU?" is the second top UK question on the EU since the #EURefResults were officially announced

Voters on the day of the referendum were uninformed and didn't take into consideration the real situation. I'm not saying it's why there was a Brexit, because nothing proves that people voting "leave" were the most googling this questions (no data can exist on such affirmation).
It just proves that Britains were not informed on the day they voted, that they didn't grasp the importance of the situation and that they made a hastly, unthought decision.



Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: poptok1 on June 26, 2016, 11:18:41 AM
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/leave-remain-brexit-uk-google-trends-what-is-eu-european-union-referendum-what-happens-now

"What is the EU?" is the second top UK question on the EU since the #EURefResults were officially announced

Voters on the day of the referendum were uninformed and didn't take into consideration the real situation. I'm not saying it's why there was a Brexit, because nothing proves that people voting "leave" were the most googling this questions (no data can exist on such affirmation).
It just proves that Britains were not informed on the day they voted, that they didn't grasp the importance of the situation and that they made a hastly, unthought decision.



But we don't know how many specific query's there actually was.
There could be like 1000 of them or 10K or maybe 5... Those charts prove nothing.
Without specific numbers your claims are just good as predictions for etherum...
Bad thing is that you are not wrong, of course majority of people dont give a dime about current geopolitical situation. Why? Because is very hard and the amount of data is overwhelming for one person. 


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: Fortify on June 26, 2016, 11:22:10 AM
I do agree, a lot of people did not have a clue about the scale and economics involved in what they were voting against. It came down to a "dem stoopid foreigners must pay" mentality. You should be careful not to lump them all together as it was a very close result - 16million wanted to remain, 17 million wanted to leave. British politicians were arrogant and didn't put in any thresholds like 75% of the population must vote or the leave vote must achieve at least 60%. Unfortunately it means around half the population will not be happy with the result


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: Lethn on June 26, 2016, 11:45:04 AM
Enough with the fear mongering, I'm getting pretty sick of it now, especially with the fact that the media seem to be collectively denying my existence by claiming young people only voted remain. I knew full well the political and economic ramifications of a Leave vote and that's precisely why I voted for it, in the long run the UK is going to be better off especially compared to Europe and we will have ended the stranglehold the EU has on this continent. The fact that you two in particular are out spamming this shit is particularly obnoxious and arrogant, why the fuck can't you just accept the results? It's ridiculous because I just know that if remain had won you'd all be telling me to fuck off if I complained the way you are.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: catch.me.if.you.can on June 26, 2016, 11:49:05 AM
Britains, is democratic people and they dont like to take orders from unelected people in EU. That simple.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: mOgliE on June 26, 2016, 11:58:47 AM
Enough with the fear mongering, I'm getting pretty sick of it now, especially with the fact that the media seem to be collectively denying my existence by claiming young people only voted remain. I knew full well the political and economic ramifications of a Leave vote and that's precisely why I voted for it, in the long run the UK is going to be better off especially compared to Europe and we will have ended the stranglehold the EU has on this continent. The fact that you two in particular are out spamming this shit is particularly obnoxious and arrogant, why the fuck can't you just accept the results? It's ridiculous because I just know that if remain had won you'd all be telling me to fuck off if I complained the way you are.

Ahahah ^^

Funny how you get angry for nothing. Especially as this post is not about denying the result, just about showing how incredible it is to see that Britains seem to wonder what does Brexit mean AFTER voting it.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: Fortify on June 26, 2016, 12:01:24 PM
Enough with the fear mongering, I'm getting pretty sick of it now, especially with the fact that the media seem to be collectively denying my existence by claiming young people only voted remain. I knew full well the political and economic ramifications of a Leave vote and that's precisely why I voted for it, in the long run the UK is going to be better off especially compared to Europe and we will have ended the stranglehold the EU has on this continent. The fact that you two in particular are out spamming this shit is particularly obnoxious and arrogant, why the fuck can't you just accept the results? It's ridiculous because I just know that if remain had won you'd all be telling me to fuck off if I complained the way you are.

I have no problem accepting the results, but the leave vote never had a plan for afterwards. Businesses are already starting to leave, it has divisively split the UK, France will stop processing immigrants in Calais - I don't see the leave campaign offering any solutions to these problems, but sticking their fingers in their ears shouting "la la la, it'll be alright". You should be afraid because we're holding a grenade and the pin fell out.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: Masha Sha on June 26, 2016, 12:03:41 PM
Enough with the fear mongering, I'm getting pretty sick of it now, especially with the fact that the media seem to be collectively denying my existence by claiming young people only voted remain. I knew full well the political and economic ramifications of a Leave vote and that's precisely why I voted for it, in the long run the UK is going to be better off especially compared to Europe and we will have ended the stranglehold the EU has on this continent. The fact that you two in particular are out spamming this shit is particularly obnoxious and arrogant, why the fuck can't you just accept the results? It's ridiculous because I just know that if remain had won you'd all be telling me to fuck off if I complained the way you are.

I have no problem accepting the results, but the leave vote never had a plan for afterwards. Businesses are already starting to leave, it has divisively split the UK, France will stop processing immigrants in Calais - I don't see the leave campaign offering any solutions to these problems, but sticking their fingers in their ears shouting "la la la, it'll be alright". You should be afraid because we're holding a grenade and the pin fell out.

The biggest difficulty is that the UK is still in the EU and can't yet do anything... Breaking the shackles is the easiest part learning to be a free man is another story completely.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: mOgliE on June 26, 2016, 12:07:14 PM
Enough with the fear mongering, I'm getting pretty sick of it now, especially with the fact that the media seem to be collectively denying my existence by claiming young people only voted remain. I knew full well the political and economic ramifications of a Leave vote and that's precisely why I voted for it, in the long run the UK is going to be better off especially compared to Europe and we will have ended the stranglehold the EU has on this continent. The fact that you two in particular are out spamming this shit is particularly obnoxious and arrogant, why the fuck can't you just accept the results? It's ridiculous because I just know that if remain had won you'd all be telling me to fuck off if I complained the way you are.

I have no problem accepting the results, but the leave vote never had a plan for afterwards. Businesses are already starting to leave, it has divisively split the UK, France will stop processing immigrants in Calais - I don't see the leave campaign offering any solutions to these problems, but sticking their fingers in their ears shouting "la la la, it'll be alright". You should be afraid because we're holding a grenade and the pin fell out.

The biggest difficulty is that the UK is still in the EU and can't yet do anything... Breaking the shackles is the easiest part learning to be a free man is another story completely.

I'm still waiting to see anything the UK wants to do the the EU forbids as you're claiming. But the vote is made so we'll soon see what your "freedom" will bring, I just don't see how it could compensate your isolation.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: Masha Sha on June 26, 2016, 12:12:22 PM
Noo this is the problem... the EU commission say that they will be nice... Don't think for one second that it will be the case. They want more power. A group of people said no to them. This is in their view intolerable! They want more control, more power, bigger perks, and so on. Never in the interests of the people they should be representing but in their own first and foremost.

Just what European Commission must remember is that the people will watch and behaving like dishonestly is seen.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: Jet Cash on June 26, 2016, 12:15:13 PM
Given that the leavers are all old farts with no knowledge of technology, I guess it was the remainers with no knowledge of world affairs or economics.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: mOgliE on June 26, 2016, 12:17:16 PM
Given that the leavers are all old farts with no knowledge of technology, I guess it was the remainers with no knowledge of world affairs or economics.

Ahahah xD
Good point here! If we could link age to research we would have a good idea of who from leaver or remainer voted like zombies.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: Lethn on June 26, 2016, 12:22:03 PM
Enough with the fear mongering, I'm getting pretty sick of it now, especially with the fact that the media seem to be collectively denying my existence by claiming young people only voted remain. I knew full well the political and economic ramifications of a Leave vote and that's precisely why I voted for it, in the long run the UK is going to be better off especially compared to Europe and we will have ended the stranglehold the EU has on this continent. The fact that you two in particular are out spamming this shit is particularly obnoxious and arrogant, why the fuck can't you just accept the results? It's ridiculous because I just know that if remain had won you'd all be telling me to fuck off if I complained the way you are.

I have no problem accepting the results, but the leave vote never had a plan for afterwards. Businesses are already starting to leave, it has divisively split the UK, France will stop processing immigrants in Calais - I don't see the leave campaign offering any solutions to these problems, but sticking their fingers in their ears shouting "la la la, it'll be alright". You should be afraid because we're holding a grenade and the pin fell out.

While I think it took many Leave supporters by surprise I don't think it's going to be as such a disaster as people like you claim, we have done trade without the likes of the EU for thousands of years and we will do so again, christ, maybe I need to go to number 10 myself and help them out, I can't stand incompetency.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: criptix on June 26, 2016, 12:32:02 PM
Given that the leavers are all old farts with no knowledge of technology, I guess it was the remainers with no knowledge of world affairs or economics.

Coming from the guy that though brexit was the cause for cheap gasoline... :)


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 26, 2016, 12:35:09 PM
Given that the leavers are all old farts with no knowledge of technology, I guess it was the remainers with no knowledge of world affairs or economics.

The only age group which favored Bremain were those who aged between 18 and 24 (44% margin). All other age groups favored Brexit, including the 25 to 30 years age group (4% margin in favor of Brexit). So according to you, everyone who is older than 24 is an old fart? And what about the 28% among the 18-24 group which voted for Brexit? Perhaps they are old farts too.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: criptix on June 26, 2016, 12:38:53 PM
It's not 40% you know, 72% of youngs voted remain.

So for you, "young" means just those in the 18-24 age group? For me, it also includes those in the 25-30 age group. And the latter voted in favor of Brexit by a 4% margin (probably close to 10% in reality, as the exit polls undercounted the LEAVE vote by 4 to 6 points). A majority of those aged between 25 and 30 voted in favor of Brexit.

Lier.

If only people aged to 64 could have vote, remain would have won by a really big margin: 10-15%

https://mobile.twitter.com/POLITICOEurope/status/746255941331488768

But well, what would expect from someone who cant even read a yes/no poll correctly ::)


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: mOgliE on June 26, 2016, 12:46:46 PM
Given that the leavers are all old farts with no knowledge of technology, I guess it was the remainers with no knowledge of world affairs or economics.

The only age group which favored Bremain were those who aged between 18 and 24 (44% margin). All other age groups favored Brexit, including the 25 to 30 years age group (4% margin in favor of Brexit). So according to you, everyone who is older than 24 is an old fart? And what about the 28% among the 18-24 group which voted for Brexit? Perhaps they are old farts too.

Are you really trying to deceive people or do you not know how to read or google something?

Please, anyone believing Bryant.coleman... Well first look at his history of posts to understand his notion of "objectivity" and "proof". Then go on google and write "Brexit vote by age" and read any of the link to see that what he says is completely false.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: mOgliE on June 26, 2016, 12:54:55 PM
Enough with the fear mongering, I'm getting pretty sick of it now, especially with the fact that the media seem to be collectively denying my existence by claiming young people only voted remain. I knew full well the political and economic ramifications of a Leave vote and that's precisely why I voted for it, in the long run the UK is going to be better off especially compared to Europe and we will have ended the stranglehold the EU has on this continent. The fact that you two in particular are out spamming this shit is particularly obnoxious and arrogant, why the fuck can't you just accept the results? It's ridiculous because I just know that if remain had won you'd all be telling me to fuck off if I complained the way you are.

I have no problem accepting the results, but the leave vote never had a plan for afterwards. Businesses are already starting to leave, it has divisively split the UK, France will stop processing immigrants in Calais - I don't see the leave campaign offering any solutions to these problems, but sticking their fingers in their ears shouting "la la la, it'll be alright". You should be afraid because we're holding a grenade and the pin fell out.

While I think it took many Leave supporters by surprise I don't think it's going to be as such a disaster as people like you claim, we have done trade without the likes of the EU for thousands of years and we will do so again, christ, maybe I need to go to number 10 myself and help them out, I can't stand incompetency.

Exactly the problem with old people. And you're an old people, at least in your head xD
You don't understand something incredibly simple, something that is the basis of evolution, humanity and the world itself: YOU CAN'T GO BACKWARDS!

That's an incredible mistake of the "good old days"... You just can't "do it like we did for centuries" it doesn't work :'(

Anyway, I hope it won't be a complete disaster, not for you because you voted out so you've got to assume your responsability, but for the millions of people who chose to go forwards and are kept backwards by nostalgics nationalists.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: criptix on June 26, 2016, 12:58:19 PM
Enough with the fear mongering, I'm getting pretty sick of it now, especially with the fact that the media seem to be collectively denying my existence by claiming young people only voted remain. I knew full well the political and economic ramifications of a Leave vote and that's precisely why I voted for it, in the long run the UK is going to be better off especially compared to Europe and we will have ended the stranglehold the EU has on this continent. The fact that you two in particular are out spamming this shit is particularly obnoxious and arrogant, why the fuck can't you just accept the results? It's ridiculous because I just know that if remain had won you'd all be telling me to fuck off if I complained the way you are.

I have no problem accepting the results, but the leave vote never had a plan for afterwards. Businesses are already starting to leave, it has divisively split the UK, France will stop processing immigrants in Calais - I don't see the leave campaign offering any solutions to these problems, but sticking their fingers in their ears shouting "la la la, it'll be alright". You should be afraid because we're holding a grenade and the pin fell out.

While I think it took many Leave supporters by surprise I don't think it's going to be as such a disaster as people like you claim, we have done trade without the likes of the EU for thousands of years and we will do so again, christ, maybe I need to go to number 10 myself and help them out, I can't stand incompetency.

Exactly the problem with old people. And you're an old people, at least in your head xD
You don't understand something incredibly simple, something that is the basis of evolution, humanity and the world itself: YOU CAN'T GO BACKWARDS!

That's an incredible mistake of the "good old days"... You just can't "do it like we did for centuries" it doesn't work :'(

Anyway, I hope it won't be a complete disaster, not for you because you voted out so you've got to assume your responsability, but for the millions of people who chose to go forwards and are kept backwards by nostalgics nationalists.

I dont think he realizes that in his restricted world view.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: densuj on June 26, 2016, 01:01:00 PM
Brexit is right of people great Britania, they know what is they doing, of course there are risk must be taken by them. We just can wait and see what will happen with England. Because Google just mades opinions.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: Lethn on June 26, 2016, 01:01:07 PM
Yes, that's right, ignore all the other independent countries who have no problem trading with the outside world even in today's society, again, the idea that you need a giant organisation for free trade is a fucking joke, yet you still push it even after the referendum results.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: mOgliE on June 26, 2016, 01:05:59 PM
Yes, that's right, ignore all the other independent countries who have no problem trading with the outside world even in today's society, again, the idea that you need a giant organisation for free trade is a fucking joke, yet you still push it even after the referendum results.

Please give me such country. I'm waiting for a name because the vast majority of countries are doing ALL THEY CAN to create free trade organisations.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: criptix on June 26, 2016, 01:06:40 PM
Yes, that's right, ignore all the other independent countries who have no problem trading with the outside world even in today's society, again, the idea that you need a giant organisation for free trade is a fucking joke, yet you still push it even after the referendum results.

There is an easy reason for that:

The bigger markets make the rules. It means every independent country making deals with china, eu, usa have to play by their rules.
That is why we have an EU, an Asean and soon an North American Union. Bigger equals more negotiating power - always!


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: Lethn on June 26, 2016, 01:46:17 PM
Yes, that's right, ignore all the other independent countries who have no problem trading with the outside world even in today's society, again, the idea that you need a giant organisation for free trade is a fucking joke, yet you still push it even after the referendum results.

Please give me such country. I'm waiting for a name because the vast majority of countries are doing ALL THEY CAN to create free trade organisations.

China, Russia, America, Canada, you were saying? Also, these are not free trade organisations, that's a lie, they're called trading blocs and that's a different thing entirely.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: criptix on June 26, 2016, 01:48:30 PM
Yes, that's right, ignore all the other independent countries who have no problem trading with the outside world even in today's society, again, the idea that you need a giant organisation for free trade is a fucking joke, yet you still push it even after the referendum results.

Please give me such country. I'm waiting for a name because the vast majority of countries are doing ALL THEY CAN to create free trade organisations.

China, Russia, America, Canada, you were saying? Also, these are not free trade organisations, that's a lie, they're called trading blocs and that's a different thing entirely.

Now tell me whos stronger in a negotiation with china and the usa: UK or EU?

I dont think you understand how world economics work.
Would be nice if we live in a fantasy world but truth is reality looks much different.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on June 26, 2016, 01:53:48 PM
Britains, is democratic people and they dont like to take orders from unelected people in EU. That simple.

75% of your democratically elected representatives in Parliament voted to remain. 'Direct democracy' by referendum is a populist circus.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: mOgliE on June 26, 2016, 01:54:35 PM
Yes, that's right, ignore all the other independent countries who have no problem trading with the outside world even in today's society, again, the idea that you need a giant organisation for free trade is a fucking joke, yet you still push it even after the referendum results.

Please give me such country. I'm waiting for a name because the vast majority of countries are doing ALL THEY CAN to create free trade organisations.

China, Russia, America, Canada, you were saying? Also, these are not free trade organisations, that's a lie, they're called trading blocs and that's a different thing entirely.

America and Canada are part of the NAFTA so they're not on your list. CHina is in the ASEAN so not on your list neither.

Well, you still have Russia that's right. Wanna compare Russia and UK? ::)
Oh and just for your culture, Russia is actively negotiating for a free trade organization with its neighboors.

Seems like the whole world is trying to do exactly the opposite of what UK just done...


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: criptix on June 26, 2016, 01:55:29 PM
Britains, is democratic people and they dont like to take orders from unelected people in EU. That simple.

75% of your democratically elected representatives in Parliament voted to remain. 'Direct democracy' by referendum is a populist circus.

No no, they are all corrupt illuminati or reptilians and such.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: criptix on June 26, 2016, 01:57:19 PM
Yes, that's right, ignore all the other independent countries who have no problem trading with the outside world even in today's society, again, the idea that you need a giant organisation for free trade is a fucking joke, yet you still push it even after the referendum results.

Please give me such country. I'm waiting for a name because the vast majority of countries are doing ALL THEY CAN to create free trade organisations.

China, Russia, America, Canada, you were saying? Also, these are not free trade organisations, that's a lie, they're called trading blocs and that's a different thing entirely.

America and Canada are part of the NAFTA so they're not on your list. CHina is in the ASEAN so not on your list neither.

Well, you still have Russia that's right. Wanna compare Russia and UK? ::)
Oh and just for your culture, Russia is actively negotiating for a free trade organization with its neighboors.

Seems like the whole world is trying to do exactly the opposite of what UK just done...

Russia is in the Eurasian Economic Union.

Only UK is alone trololol


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 26, 2016, 02:01:12 PM
Britains, is democratic people and they dont like to take orders from unelected people in EU. That simple.

75% of your democratically elected representatives in Parliament voted to remain. 'Direct democracy' by referendum is a populist circus.

The Brits elected their MPs to govern the United Kingdom. These people don't have the right to cede the British sovereignty to someone else. For example, if tomorrow, a majority of the MPs decide that they want the UK to merge with the United States, they will be unable to implement it. The same case here as well.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on June 26, 2016, 02:04:29 PM
What United Kingdom? Scotland has one foot out the door. Moral highground makes good political capital, and Britain just gave it away.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: Lethn on June 26, 2016, 02:07:21 PM
Yes, that's right, ignore all the other independent countries who have no problem trading with the outside world even in today's society, again, the idea that you need a giant organisation for free trade is a fucking joke, yet you still push it even after the referendum results.

Please give me such country. I'm waiting for a name because the vast majority of countries are doing ALL THEY CAN to create free trade organisations.

China, Russia, America, Canada, you were saying? Also, these are not free trade organisations, that's a lie, they're called trading blocs and that's a different thing entirely.

America and Canada are part of the NAFTA so they're not on your list. CHina is in the ASEAN so not on your list neither.

Well, you still have Russia that's right. Wanna compare Russia and UK? ::)
Oh and just for your culture, Russia is actively negotiating for a free trade organization with its neighboors.

Seems like the whole world is trying to do exactly the opposite of what UK just done...

The point is these countries are trading with places like Europe without the need for these organisations, you also have Norway and Sweden who are definitely independent of the EU and have been trading absolutely fine, all people like you're doing is scaremongering and it pisses me off.

Edit: I meant Switzerland, not Sweden.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: mOgliE on June 26, 2016, 02:15:13 PM
Yes, that's right, ignore all the other independent countries who have no problem trading with the outside world even in today's society, again, the idea that you need a giant organisation for free trade is a fucking joke, yet you still push it even after the referendum results.

Please give me such country. I'm waiting for a name because the vast majority of countries are doing ALL THEY CAN to create free trade organisations.

China, Russia, America, Canada, you were saying? Also, these are not free trade organisations, that's a lie, they're called trading blocs and that's a different thing entirely.

America and Canada are part of the NAFTA so they're not on your list. CHina is in the ASEAN so not on your list neither.

Well, you still have Russia that's right. Wanna compare Russia and UK? ::)
Oh and just for your culture, Russia is actively negotiating for a free trade organization with its neighboors.

Seems like the whole world is trying to do exactly the opposite of what UK just done...

The point is these countries are trading with places like Europe without the need for these organisations, you also have Norway and Sweden who are definitely independent of the EU and have been trading absolutely fine, all people like you're doing is scaremongering and it pisses me off.

What we're trying to explain to you but you refuse to understand is that USA plus Canada can afford to trade with Europe because they're of similar power... But if you take UK alone, how do you think it will do trying to negotiate with monsters like EU, NAFTA or ASEAN?

It will smile, accept the ridiculous demands because it needs 17 billion of pounds of import and then cry in a corner.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: criptix on June 26, 2016, 02:28:57 PM
Yes, that's right, ignore all the other independent countries who have no problem trading with the outside world even in today's society, again, the idea that you need a giant organisation for free trade is a fucking joke, yet you still push it even after the referendum results.

Please give me such country. I'm waiting for a name because the vast majority of countries are doing ALL THEY CAN to create free trade organisations.

China, Russia, America, Canada, you were saying? Also, these are not free trade organisations, that's a lie, they're called trading blocs and that's a different thing entirely.

America and Canada are part of the NAFTA so they're not on your list. CHina is in the ASEAN so not on your list neither.

Well, you still have Russia that's right. Wanna compare Russia and UK? ::)
Oh and just for your culture, Russia is actively negotiating for a free trade organization with its neighboors.

Seems like the whole world is trying to do exactly the opposite of what UK just done...

The point is these countries are trading with places like Europe without the need for these organisations, you also have Norway and Sweden who are definitely independent of the EU and have been trading absolutely fine, all people like you're doing is scaremongering and it pisses me off.

Sweden is a member of the EU...
You probaly are talking of norway and switzerland.

And the most important they just dont trade freely with anyone. They all are part of trade agreements. Without bi/multilateral trade agreements you trade under the law of the WTO.

There are always rules and laws you have to abide by.

They arent in the EU but in the EEA.
They pay money to the EU, are part of the Schengen treaty and had to implement pretty much all EU laws just with the "tiny" difference that they have no political decision power in the EU.

MUCH GOOD, VERY SMART!


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: mOgliE on June 26, 2016, 02:32:58 PM
Yes, that's right, ignore all the other independent countries who have no problem trading with the outside world even in today's society, again, the idea that you need a giant organisation for free trade is a fucking joke, yet you still push it even after the referendum results.

Please give me such country. I'm waiting for a name because the vast majority of countries are doing ALL THEY CAN to create free trade organisations.

China, Russia, America, Canada, you were saying? Also, these are not free trade organisations, that's a lie, they're called trading blocs and that's a different thing entirely.

America and Canada are part of the NAFTA so they're not on your list. CHina is in the ASEAN so not on your list neither.

Well, you still have Russia that's right. Wanna compare Russia and UK? ::)
Oh and just for your culture, Russia is actively negotiating for a free trade organization with its neighboors.

Seems like the whole world is trying to do exactly the opposite of what UK just done...

The point is these countries are trading with places like Europe without the need for these organisations, you also have Norway and Sweden who are definitely independent of the EU and have been trading absolutely fine, all people like you're doing is scaremongering and it pisses me off.

Sweden is a member of the EU...
You probaly are talking of norway and switzerland.

And the most important they just dont trade freely with anyone. They all are part of trade agreements. Without bi/multilateral trade agreements you trade under the law of the WTO.

There are always rules and laws you have to abide by.

They arent in the EU but in the EEA.
They pay money to the EU, are part of the Schengen treaty and had to implement pretty much all EU laws just with the "tiny" difference that they have no political decision power in the EU.

MUCH GOOD, VERY SMART!


But... But...
Independance and all... Sovereignty? Britania rules? No? :'(


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: criptix on June 26, 2016, 02:37:30 PM
I think god just shaved the queen  :'(


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: alyssa85 on June 26, 2016, 03:13:36 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/leave-remain-brexit-uk-google-trends-what-is-eu-european-union-referendum-what-happens-now

"What is the EU?" is the second top UK question on the EU since the #EURefResults were officially announced

Voters on the day of the referendum were uninformed and didn't take into consideration the real situation. I'm not saying it's why there was a Brexit, because nothing proves that people voting "leave" were the most googling this questions (no data can exist on such affirmation).
It just proves that Britains were not informed on the day they voted, that they didn't grasp the importance of the situation and that they made a hastly, unthought decision.



I would say those are under 18's who were doing assignments on it in school on Friday.

You guys know that kids use Google too, right?


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: Lethn on June 26, 2016, 03:30:23 PM
Yes, that's right, ignore all the other independent countries who have no problem trading with the outside world even in today's society, again, the idea that you need a giant organisation for free trade is a fucking joke, yet you still push it even after the referendum results.

Please give me such country. I'm waiting for a name because the vast majority of countries are doing ALL THEY CAN to create free trade organisations.

China, Russia, America, Canada, you were saying? Also, these are not free trade organisations, that's a lie, they're called trading blocs and that's a different thing entirely.

America and Canada are part of the NAFTA so they're not on your list. CHina is in the ASEAN so not on your list neither.

Well, you still have Russia that's right. Wanna compare Russia and UK? ::)
Oh and just for your culture, Russia is actively negotiating for a free trade organization with its neighboors.

Seems like the whole world is trying to do exactly the opposite of what UK just done...

The point is these countries are trading with places like Europe without the need for these organisations, you also have Norway and Sweden who are definitely independent of the EU and have been trading absolutely fine, all people like you're doing is scaremongering and it pisses me off.

Sweden is a member of the EU...
You probaly are talking of norway and switzerland.

And the most important they just dont trade freely with anyone. They all are part of trade agreements. Without bi/multilateral trade agreements you trade under the law of the WTO.

There are always rules and laws you have to abide by.

They arent in the EU but in the EEA.
They pay money to the EU, are part of the Schengen treaty and had to implement pretty much all EU laws just with the "tiny" difference that they have no political decision power in the EU.

MUCH GOOD, VERY SMART!


But... But...
Independance and all... Sovereignty? Britania rules? No? :'(

Sorry, that was a major typo, yes I did mean Switzerland lol I'm just watching the news a lot right now, multitasking -_-


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: escrowboy on June 26, 2016, 03:34:42 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/leave-remain-brexit-uk-google-trends-what-is-eu-european-union-referendum-what-happens-now

"What is the EU?" is the second top UK question on the EU since the #EURefResults were officially announced

Voters on the day of the referendum were uninformed and didn't take into consideration the real situation. I'm not saying it's why there was a Brexit, because nothing proves that people voting "leave" were the most googling this questions (no data can exist on such affirmation).
It just proves that Britains were not informed on the day they voted, that they didn't grasp the importance of the situation and that they made a hastly, unthought decision.


It is a dumb action because it weakens EU's economy and it really affect the world market thus it will affect as too.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: criptix on June 26, 2016, 03:42:49 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/leave-remain-brexit-uk-google-trends-what-is-eu-european-union-referendum-what-happens-now

"What is the EU?" is the second top UK question on the EU since the #EURefResults were officially announced

Voters on the day of the referendum were uninformed and didn't take into consideration the real situation. I'm not saying it's why there was a Brexit, because nothing proves that people voting "leave" were the most googling this questions (no data can exist on such affirmation).
It just proves that Britains were not informed on the day they voted, that they didn't grasp the importance of the situation and that they made a hastly, unthought decision.



I would say those are under 18's who were doing assignments on it in school on Friday.

You guys know that kids use Google too, right?

Well if you look at the leave campaign and here at the brexit threads ( under the premise that the ppl who said  that they are UK inhabitants really are) i think moglie's post is pretty much spot on.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: alyssa85 on June 26, 2016, 04:03:13 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/leave-remain-brexit-uk-google-trends-what-is-eu-european-union-referendum-what-happens-now

"What is the EU?" is the second top UK question on the EU since the #EURefResults were officially announced

Voters on the day of the referendum were uninformed and didn't take into consideration the real situation. I'm not saying it's why there was a Brexit, because nothing proves that people voting "leave" were the most googling this questions (no data can exist on such affirmation).
It just proves that Britains were not informed on the day they voted, that they didn't grasp the importance of the situation and that they made a hastly, unthought decision.



I would say those are under 18's who were doing assignments on it in school on Friday.

You guys know that kids use Google too, right?

Well if you look at the leave campaign and here at the brexit threads ( under the premise that the ppl who said  that they are UK inhabitants really are) i think moglie's post is pretty much spot on.

There was an opinion poll out yesterday which showed Leave voters were happy with their decision. All adult voters in Britain know what the EU is because we've been literally arguing about it for forty years, constantly. It has been in every newspaper, every day, for forty years.

The people who might not know are the kids in school on Friday doing assignments on the exciting developments unfolding, and some of our non-EU migrant workers who were probably wondering how it all affected them.

I get that some Europeans are terrified that the UK has lit a fire under them, but this decision is final. Britain is fed-up to the back teeth of the EU. The EU is also wrong for our economy - we specialise in financial services, but they've been refusing to allow a single market in financial services for 40 years, mainly because they fear British companies will crowd out local firms. So we lose nothing from extricating ourselves from the corpse that is the EU. Getting out now before the rotting corpse explodes and spews stink everywhere is the smart thing to do.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 26, 2016, 04:24:07 PM
There was an opinion poll out yesterday which showed Leave voters were happy with their decision. All adult voters in Britain know what the EU is because we've been literally arguing about it for forty years, constantly. It has been in every newspaper, every day, for forty years.

This one?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brexit-opinion-poll-reveals-majority-8283139

Quote
In a poll of 1,069 British adults aged 18 and over taken yesterday, just 39% said they felt a second referendum should be held.

The support level for a second referendum is even lower than the remain (48%) vote.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: criptix on June 26, 2016, 04:25:49 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/leave-remain-brexit-uk-google-trends-what-is-eu-european-union-referendum-what-happens-now

"What is the EU?" is the second top UK question on the EU since the #EURefResults were officially announced

Voters on the day of the referendum were uninformed and didn't take into consideration the real situation. I'm not saying it's why there was a Brexit, because nothing proves that people voting "leave" were the most googling this questions (no data can exist on such affirmation).
It just proves that Britains were not informed on the day they voted, that they didn't grasp the importance of the situation and that they made a hastly, unthought decision.



I would say those are under 18's who were doing assignments on it in school on Friday.

You guys know that kids use Google too, right?

Well if you look at the leave campaign and here at the brexit threads ( under the premise that the ppl who said  that they are UK inhabitants really are) i think moglie's post is pretty much spot on.

There was an opinion poll out yesterday which showed Leave voters were happy with their decision. All adult voters in Britain know what the EU is because we've been literally arguing about it for forty years, constantly. It has been in every newspaper, every day, for forty years.

The people who might not know are the kids in school on Friday doing assignments on the exciting developments unfolding, and some of our non-EU migrant workers who were probably wondering how it all affected them.

I get that some Europeans are terrified that the UK has lit a fire under them, but this decision is final. Britain is fed-up to the back teeth of the EU. The EU is also wrong for our economy - we specialise in financial services, but they've been refusing to allow a single market in financial services for 40 years, mainly because they fear British companies will crowd out local firms. So we lose nothing from extricating ourselves from the corpse that is the EU. Getting out now before the rotting corpse explodes and spews stink everywhere is the smart thing to do.

Most of the arguments we already talked about. So just ralk about the terrified europeans for now.
You know there are atleast 16.1 million terrified europeans in the more or less United Kingdom?

I really think you guys are in more trouble then continental europe is.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: criptix on June 26, 2016, 04:27:15 PM
There was an opinion poll out yesterday which showed Leave voters were happy with their decision. All adult voters in Britain know what the EU is because we've been literally arguing about it for forty years, constantly. It has been in every newspaper, every day, for forty years.

This one?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brexit-opinion-poll-reveals-majority-8283139

Quote
In a poll of 1,069 British adults aged 18 and over taken yesterday, just 39% said they felt a second referendum should be held.

The support level for a second referendum is even lower than the remain (48%) vote.

Na this:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/669935/80-per-cent-Brits-move-UK-to-RUSSIA-Putin-offers-free-land


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: Jet Cash on June 26, 2016, 05:24:57 PM
The US should be really concerned about that article.
First it looks as if it was reporting on British life under the EU  tyrants, not the new vibrant Britain.
Putin is expanding Russian agriculture as a direct result of US sanctions. He is introducing capitalism to Russian farming, and they now export more grain than the US.
They have also banned GM crops and are focusing on healthy food. This is an emerging world trend, and they are in the forefront. Britain is also a part of this. American meat is banned in many countries because it is loaded with poisons. EU restrictions made it difficult to produce healthy food.
There is a certain amount of disenchantment here because support for banksters has pushed up house prices. Hopefully the new UK government will stop this support, raise interest rates, and bring house prices back to realistic levels.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: Masha Sha on June 27, 2016, 01:48:04 AM
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/leave-remain-brexit-uk-google-trends-what-is-eu-european-union-referendum-what-happens-now

"What is the EU?" is the second top UK question on the EU since the #EURefResults were officially announced

Voters on the day of the referendum were uninformed and didn't take into consideration the real situation. I'm not saying it's why there was a Brexit, because nothing proves that people voting "leave" were the most googling this questions (no data can exist on such affirmation).
It just proves that Britains were not informed on the day they voted, that they didn't grasp the importance of the situation and that they made a hastly, unthought decision.



I would say those are under 18's who were doing assignments on it in school on Friday.

You guys know that kids use Google too, right?

Well if you look at the leave campaign and here at the brexit threads ( under the premise that the ppl who said  that they are UK inhabitants really are) i think moglie's post is pretty much spot on.

There was an opinion poll out yesterday which showed Leave voters were happy with their decision. All adult voters in Britain know what the EU is because we've been literally arguing about it for forty years, constantly. It has been in every newspaper, every day, for forty years.

The people who might not know are the kids in school on Friday doing assignments on the exciting developments unfolding, and some of our non-EU migrant workers who were probably wondering how it all affected them.

I get that some Europeans are terrified that the UK has lit a fire under them, but this decision is final. Britain is fed-up to the back teeth of the EU. The EU is also wrong for our economy - we specialise in financial services, but they've been refusing to allow a single market in financial services for 40 years, mainly because they fear British companies will crowd out local firms. So we lose nothing from extricating ourselves from the corpse that is the EU. Getting out now before the rotting corpse explodes and spews stink everywhere is the smart thing to do.

Behind Merkel there is the one German bank... Deutsche Bank. She does everything for this bank... Sacrificed Greek people, and what you are saying. She wants Frankfurt to be the financial hub of Europe to feast on tax generated to finance her social democracy. It has never been fair... Deutsche Bank uber alles.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 27, 2016, 02:21:29 AM
The US should be really concerned about that article.
First it looks as if it was reporting on British life under the EU  tyrants, not the new vibrant Britain.
Putin is expanding Russian agriculture as a direct result of US sanctions. He is introducing capitalism to Russian farming, and they now export more grain than the US.
They have also banned GM crops and are focusing on healthy food. This is an emerging world trend, and they are in the forefront. Britain is also a part of this. American meat is banned in many countries because it is loaded with poisons. EU restrictions made it difficult to produce healthy food.
There is a certain amount of disenchantment here because support for banksters has pushed up house prices. Hopefully the new UK government will stop this support, raise interest rates, and bring house prices back to realistic levels.

The British agriculture is mostly dead. The sector employs just around 1.5% of the British workforce, and this proportion has been going down for the past many years. The agricultural production is on the decline, as GM products from the US are flooding the local markets. Still... the Brexit referendum will have no effect on trade with the US.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: Masha Sha on June 27, 2016, 02:32:05 AM
The US should be really concerned about that article.
First it looks as if it was reporting on British life under the EU  tyrants, not the new vibrant Britain.
Putin is expanding Russian agriculture as a direct result of US sanctions. He is introducing capitalism to Russian farming, and they now export more grain than the US.
They have also banned GM crops and are focusing on healthy food. This is an emerging world trend, and they are in the forefront. Britain is also a part of this. American meat is banned in many countries because it is loaded with poisons. EU restrictions made it difficult to produce healthy food.
There is a certain amount of disenchantment here because support for banksters has pushed up house prices. Hopefully the new UK government will stop this support, raise interest rates, and bring house prices back to realistic levels.

The British agriculture is mostly dead. The sector employs just around 1.5% of the British workforce, and this proportion has been going down for the past many years. The agricultural production is on the decline, as GM products from the US are flooding the local markets. Still... the Brexit referendum will have no effect on trade with the US.

Uneducated fools... I am sure that all in it costs more to have toxic food in a socialist nation than it brings. Loss of productivity and health cost exceed the price gains from total unsustainable industrial food production


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: Fortify on June 27, 2016, 05:59:06 PM
The British agriculture is mostly dead. The sector employs just around 1.5% of the British workforce, and this proportion has been going down for the past many years. The agricultural production is on the decline, as GM products from the US are flooding the local markets. Still... the Brexit referendum will have no effect on trade with the US.

That's a false premise really, as that 1.50% workforce generates around 60% of the food consumed in the UK for a year. All that number represents is that farming and agricultural practises are very efficient that you need to employ so few people in the sector - but you're still talking hundreds of thousands of people. Agricultural may very well be on the decline, but that is because so many fields are being consumed by the current housing and population boom.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: alyssa85 on June 27, 2016, 06:32:15 PM


The British agriculture is mostly dead. The sector employs just around 1.5% of the British workforce, and this proportion has been going down for the past many years. The agricultural production is on the decline, as GM products from the US are flooding the local markets. Still... the Brexit referendum will have no effect on trade with the US.

Actually, according to the New York Times, last month Britain exported the biggest tonnage of wheat to the USA in twenty years - all thanks to the pound falling as the Leave side moved ahead in the polls. That should improve even more this month.

I personally know of a business that exports healthcare software to the Caribbean that is over the moon at the pound falling - the Caribbean dollar is pegged to the USD and when they buy British stuff it converts back to 8% more sterling. If your costs are in sterling but earnings are in dollars or anything pegged to dollars, this is a windfall.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: mOgliE on June 27, 2016, 09:26:19 PM


The British agriculture is mostly dead. The sector employs just around 1.5% of the British workforce, and this proportion has been going down for the past many years. The agricultural production is on the decline, as GM products from the US are flooding the local markets. Still... the Brexit referendum will have no effect on trade with the US.

Actually, according to the New York Times, last month Britain exported the biggest tonnage of wheat to the USA in twenty years - all thanks to the pound falling as the Leave side moved ahead in the polls. That should improve even more this month.

I personally know of a business that exports healthcare software to the Caribbean that is over the moon at the pound falling - the Caribbean dollar is pegged to the USD and when they buy British stuff it converts back to 8% more sterling. If your costs are in sterling but earnings are in dollars or anything pegged to dollars, this is a windfall.

I'll try to explain to you simply:
Low pound is good for export, bad for import.
Problem: UK import 17 Billions more than it export.
Conclusion: Low pounds is extremely bad for UK.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: catch.me.if.you.can on June 27, 2016, 09:48:05 PM
UK import 17 Billions more than it export because of the laws of germanic EU. Long term, the loser will be Germany.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: BADecker on June 28, 2016, 07:26:15 AM
Brexit: Truth And Consequences (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDkTwIQpxvM)


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VDkTwIQpxvM/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=320&h=180&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=BQH8qgVvsSEqJefofR5eRyAjaDI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDkTwIQpxvM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDkTwIQpxvM)


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• Doesn't the Texas Constitution reserve the right of Texas to secede?
• Didn’t the outcome of the “Civil War” prove secession is not an option for any State?
• Didn’t the U.S. Supreme Court in Texas v. White prove secession is unconstitutional?
• Is Texas really ripe for a secession movement?
• How would Texas—and Texans—benefit from secession?
• Are there any organized efforts to promote a Texas secession?
• Why exactly are y'all selling bumper stickers?


Read more at https://www.texassecede.com/faq.php. (https://www.texassecede.com/faq.php)


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Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: mOgliE on June 28, 2016, 09:19:50 AM
UK import 17 Billions more than it export because of the laws of germanic EU. Long term, the loser will be Germany.

Please explain us how EU regulations make you buy Apple and BMW. ...


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: Jet Cash on June 28, 2016, 01:27:30 PM
UK import 17 Billions more than it export because of the laws of germanic EU. Long term, the loser will be Germany.

Please explain us how EU regulations make you buy Apple and BMW. ...

I can understand why you posted that, and I agree with your motivation. However, there is an element of truth in the statement. We are forced to buy foreign goods because government policy and EU regulations have decimated British industry. Now that we are out of the EU, lets get on with rebuilding our manufacturing base.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: Masha Sha on June 28, 2016, 03:10:45 PM
UK import 17 Billions more than it export because of the laws of germanic EU. Long term, the loser will be Germany.

The market will always readjust.

Texas session what a joke... Hard to find bigger patriots in the Union... However I am sure that the ennemies of USA (China/Russia) must be plotting some nefarious activities to break the Union. And with this weak Marxist they have an open field... But who knows it may be a trap ;)


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: Dinki on June 28, 2016, 08:47:13 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/leave-remain-brexit-uk-google-trends-what-is-eu-european-union-referendum-what-happens-now

"What is the EU?" is the second top UK question on the EU since the #EURefResults were officially announced

Voters on the day of the referendum were uninformed and didn't take into consideration the real situation. I'm not saying it's why there was a Brexit, because nothing proves that people voting "leave" were the most googling this questions (no data can exist on such affirmation).
It just proves that Britains were not informed on the day they voted, that they didn't grasp the importance of the situation and that they made a hastly, unthought decision.





Do you think people should vote again?


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: Spendulus on June 28, 2016, 11:12:54 PM
Enough with the fear mongering, I'm getting pretty sick of it now, especially with the fact that the media seem to be collectively denying my existence...
If not the mongering of fear then what is left to monger?

The many mongerers must make money. 



Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 29, 2016, 02:49:33 AM
UK import 17 Billions more than it export because of the laws of germanic EU. Long term, the loser will be Germany.

The UK imports $31 billion worth of automobiles, $13 billion worth of machinery, and $7 billion worth of pharmaceutical products from Germany every year. This is going to decrease, once the UK cancels its European Union membership. On the other hand, more automobile manufacturing units and machinery assembling centers will be established in the UK.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: Xenoph0bia on June 29, 2016, 06:47:19 AM
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/leave-remain-brexit-uk-google-trends-what-is-eu-european-union-referendum-what-happens-now

"What is the EU?" is the second top UK question on the EU since the #EURefResults were officially announced

Voters on the day of the referendum were uninformed and didn't take into consideration the real situation. I'm not saying it's why there was a Brexit, because nothing proves that people voting "leave" were the most googling this questions (no data can exist on such affirmation).
It just proves that Britains were not informed on the day they voted, that they didn't grasp the importance of the situation and that they made a hastly, unthought decision.




It was really shocking as people were unaware with the consequences if they they opted to leave or remain in the European Union. I think government failed to provide proper information to the citizens and which was really required. The decision has been made now and it will be really interesting to see what will be impact of this historic development.


Title: Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action
Post by: Fortify on June 29, 2016, 04:50:37 PM
It was really shocking as people were unaware with the consequences if they they opted to leave or remain in the European Union. I think government failed to provide proper information to the citizens and which was really required. The decision has been made now and it will be really interesting to see what will be impact of this historic development.

I think a lot of people were aware of the consequences, that is why it was such a close vote. To be fair, the EU has had it's fair share of screw ups - Greece and the current immigration crisis are far from solved.

The trouble is when you are doing so well as a country, a lot of people want to move in. This is fine for a little while, but a constant inward migration will cause a lot of problems - traffic, lack of housing, public services struggling to cope. You could say this is unfair to the generations that have lived there before.

Freedom of movement can only work when the outer layer is strictly controlled and everywhere within has equalized so there is no strain on one area. There is a finite amount of land and shared resources, when you start to abuse or overuse them it can quickly drag society down.

When you hear stories of massive upheaval of European MP's travelling between Brussels and Strasbourg each year, it is really disconcerting that EU MP's are getting free reign to waste away people's money and are basically unaccountable.