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Title: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: DogeMajestic on June 26, 2016, 11:54:52 PM
This is a question often posed by altcoin fanatics. It betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of evolutionary theory. To make matters worse, in this particular case, the entire premise of the question is false. So let's knock it on the head right away:

Monero did not evolve from Bytecoin; Monero and Bytecoin both evolved from an extinct common ancestor.

To ask a question of the form ‘If Coin X evolved from Coin Y, how come Coin Y still exists?’ is to misunderstand how evolution works. Entire coins do not evolve into new coins; new coins tend to evolve as isolated offshoots of existing (parent) coins.

In some cases, newly evolved coins can end up out-competing their parent (or sibling) coins, driving them to extinction, but by no means in all cases (ie. in the Monero case). So, even if Coin X evolved from Coin Y, there is no reason why Coin Y should not still exist.


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: Spoetnik on June 27, 2016, 12:07:44 AM
Because there was a Bytecoin waaaay before Monero existed


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: meme magic on June 27, 2016, 12:18:36 AM
Because there was a Bytecoin waaaay before Monero existed

whats that an a for every week?


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: Spoetnik on June 27, 2016, 12:25:01 AM
Because there was a Bytecoin waaaay before Monero existed

whats that an a for every week?
http://cs.rin.ru/forum/images/smilies/JC_goodpost.gif


..just when i thought it was safe to come out and FUD a little LOL


so..


http://cs.rin.ru/forum/images/smilies/viannen_96.gif


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: TheMage on June 27, 2016, 04:30:37 AM
I cant tell if you are asking a serious question or not, because im a nice guy ill answer you seriously :).


Just because coin X was forked from coin Y and coin X may be better, the "markets" would disagree. The more options that are out there to make money off of the better they are. Hence part of the reason there was such an influx of alt coins a year or two ago.

Cheap money and greed, thats one of the major factors of why coins still exist. In addition to that, there are other factors such as a coins notoriety. Bitcoin arguably is behind the curve in terms of technology, yet its much more well known therefore people are attracted to it more.


Also I will add that even though I am heavily involved in Litecoin, I support Bitcoin and many other alts. Although I personally know little about Bytecoin and Monero.


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: slapper on June 27, 2016, 05:02:41 AM
I like Gold and Bitcoin.

I must admit though I know very little about Tenebrix and Litecoin. Somehow I felt very elitist writing this line. Now if BCX could take it out of everyone's bungholes, we could start "learning" about Tenebrix and Litecoin. Google is a bitch. I hate learning.


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: Spoetnik on June 27, 2016, 05:10:56 AM
I figured you would all take my word for it or.. Google it.
So i went on Google for you (to find my own comments)

..you are welcome.

i HAD heard of Bytecoin many years earlier.

What you heard of was probably the original Bitcoin-clone Bytecoin (BTE), not BCN. Different coin.

Don't ever forget.. i am always right  8)


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: freebitcoins4u on June 27, 2016, 06:09:33 AM
i think that somewhere i read that the us dollar evolved from the spanish dollar. people are still holding old coins the same as people still holding byte coins in their wallets.


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: Spoetnik on June 27, 2016, 07:30:19 AM
i think that somewhere i read that the us dollar evolved from the spanish dollar. people are still holding old coins the same as people still holding byte coins in their wallets.

The words Bytecoin & Bytecoin are the same.

The words Spanish and US are not the same.

Class is out of session. (Tomorrow we work on shapes & numbers)


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: Febo on June 27, 2016, 07:30:19 AM
This is a question often posed by altcoin fanatics. It betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of evolutionary theory. To make matters worse, in this particular case, the entire premise of the question is false. So let's knock it on the head right away:

Monero did not evolve from Bytecoin; Monero and Bytecoin both evolved from an extinct common ancestor.

To ask a question of the form ‘If Coin X evolved from Coin Y, how come Coin Y still exists?’ is to misunderstand how evolution works. Entire coins do not evolve into new coins; new coins tend to evolve as isolated offshoots of existing (parent) coins.

In some cases, newly evolved coins can end up out-competing their parent (or sibling) coins, driving them to extinction, but by no means in all cases (ie. in the Monero case). So, even if Coin X evolved from Coin Y, there is no reason why Coin Y should not still exist.


Maybe check this here:

http://mapofcoins.com/bitcoin


Coins dont change from one in another but new coin takes all from previous one and then start its own path.

As you see TBX was made out of BTC and LTC was made out of TBX. JKC was made out of LTC and LKY was made out of JKC.   DOGE was made out of LKY.

So BTC is  grand grand grand grandfather of DOGE and BTC still exist.  Coins dont die because they have babies, but because no one cares for them.


You can also see most/all Cryptonote coins http://mapofcoins.com/bytecoin


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: Spoetnik on June 27, 2016, 07:33:55 AM
Lets hammer it home kids..

Let me pose a scenario.

Lets say there is a coin called Bitcoin..
THEN !
I created right now today a brand NEW coin called "Bitcoin"
..that has no similarity in code.

Now what we have is an item that was created BEFORE the other.
with matching names.

Are you all following me here yet ?

The fact you all can not wrap your head around this basic simple concept is disturbing.
Seriously you are all THAT god damn stupid yet rail on like Financial experts all the the time ?

WOW.


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: Febo on June 27, 2016, 07:37:55 AM


Lets say there is a coin called Bitcoin..
THEN !
I created right now today a brand NEW coin called "Bitcoin"
..that has no similarity in code.


There is Cryptonote coin named Dashcoin (DSH) and there was Darkcoin (DRK). Then suddenly Darkcoin steal Dashcoin name and become DASH.  No Cryptonote inside.



Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: meme magic on June 27, 2016, 07:46:52 AM
I laughed a little, ty for funnies.


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: Spoetnik on June 27, 2016, 08:35:35 AM
This topic show cases the mind blowing stupidity here.
Are you all fucking Trolling me or what ?
You can't be THAT dumb  :D


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: VERUMinNUMERIS on June 27, 2016, 09:07:54 AM
This topic show cases the mind blowing stupidity here.
Are you all fucking Trolling me or what ?
You can't be THAT dumb  :D

Was thinking the same thing.  Hundreds of coins "evolved" from Bitcoin so why is still Bitcoin still around?  lol


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: Spoetnik on June 27, 2016, 11:04:01 AM
This topic show cases the mind blowing stupidity here.
Are you all fucking Trolling me or what ?
You can't be THAT dumb  :D

Was thinking the same thing.  Hundreds of coins "evolved" from Bitcoin so why is still Bitcoin still around?  lol

Never Troll a Troll ! ..that is how Troll-Babies are born !


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6f/69/7e/6f697ee501b5c94de4157a4e17740bbb.jpg

..or Penguins with AK's



Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: TheMage on June 28, 2016, 03:08:34 AM
This is a question often posed by altcoin fanatics. It betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of evolutionary theory. To make matters worse, in this particular case, the entire premise of the question is false. So let's knock it on the head right away:

Monero did not evolve from Bytecoin; Monero and Bytecoin both evolved from an extinct common ancestor.

To ask a question of the form ‘If Coin X evolved from Coin Y, how come Coin Y still exists?’ is to misunderstand how evolution works. Entire coins do not evolve into new coins; new coins tend to evolve as isolated offshoots of existing (parent) coins.

In some cases, newly evolved coins can end up out-competing their parent (or sibling) coins, driving them to extinction, but by no means in all cases (ie. in the Monero case). So, even if Coin X evolved from Coin Y, there is no reason why Coin Y should not still exist.


Maybe check this here:

http://mapofcoins.com/bitcoin


Coins dont change from one in another but new coin takes all from previous one and then start its own path.

As you see TBX was made out of BTC and LTC was made out of TBX. JKC was made out of LTC and LKY was made out of JKC.   DOGE was made out of LKY.

So BTC is  grand grand grand grandfather of DOGE and BTC still exist.  Coins dont die because they have babies, but because no one cares for them.


You can also see most/all Cryptonote coins http://mapofcoins.com/bytecoin


You are amazing! I was JUST talking about this last night with someone but I couldnt remember the website. Thank you


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: DogeMajestic on January 18, 2017, 05:14:56 PM
and the Monero and Bytecoin scam is still flourishing today. It's truly AMAZIN! ! !


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: arielbit on January 19, 2017, 11:14:27 PM


Lets say there is a coin called Bitcoin..
THEN !
I created right now today a brand NEW coin called "Bitcoin"
..that has no similarity in code.


There is Cryptonote coin named Dashcoin (DSH) and there was Darkcoin (DRK). Then suddenly Darkcoin steal Dashcoin name and become DASH.  No Cryptonote inside.



and there is still monero, bytecoin, bitcoin, DASH/darkcoin and dashcoin the true dash..

maybe its a side effect of open source, decentralization, and being human ( greed, innovation, copycats, FOMO, etc. )


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: Paxful_Marketing on January 20, 2017, 05:18:34 PM
Dogs were bred and evolved - manually, but there are other natural occurrences as well - from wolves. This doesnt mean that wolves had to die out. If it works, it works. Darwin's theory of evolution kicks in here.


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: Boobies00 on January 20, 2017, 06:35:15 PM
Because there was a Bytecoin waaaay before Monero existed

On the darknetz right? ::)

Yeah it was sekretly mined on the darknetz by lots of peeps for 3 yurs. . .  oh. kaaaaay .. suuuuure .   ;D :P


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: _nur on February 03, 2017, 03:23:34 AM
this will answer you

https://bytecoin.org/blog/cryptocurrency-as-business-platform/


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: DogeMajestic on February 15, 2017, 05:25:20 PM
Dogs were bred and evolved - manually, but there are other natural occurrences as well - from wolves. This doesnt mean that wolves had to die out. If it works, it works. Darwin's theory of evolution kicks in here.

So in a nutshell you could say that you think fluffy pony is a manually bred dog or something, hun?


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: MoneroClassic on April 13, 2018, 09:03:12 AM
After Monero hard forked on April 6th, there are XMR (the new Monero chain) and XMC (original chain).

Supporters of XMC:
Community: AMT community, LoMoStar community
Mining pool: Antpool, Poolin, Frogpool, 91pool, F2POOL
Exchange: CoinEx, Xstar, gate.io
Wallet: LoMoStar

Website: monero-classic.org (http://monero-classic.org)
Telegram group: t.me/xmccurrency (http://t.me/xmccurrency)
Twitter:https://twitter.com/xmccurrency (https://twitter.com/xmccurrency)

XMC in Exchanges:
CoinEx: https://www.coinex.com/trading?currency=bch&dest=xmc&tab=limit (https://www.coinex.com/trading?currency=bch&dest=xmc&tab=limit)
Gate.io: https://gateio.io/trade/XMC_BTC (https://gateio.io/trade/XMC_BTC)
Xstar: (trade will be open soon).

Monero Classic team chose to maintain the original chain and did not follow the upgrade initiated by Monero team. We believe the emergence of specialized mining machines for a cryptocurrency is a normal market economy phenomenon and it could greatly improve network security. With specialized mining machines , the events like “Monero was attacked by more than 500,000 botnets” could be avoided. On the opposite, Monero developers' constant change of algorithm creates more centralization.


Title: Re: If Monero evolved from Bytecoin, how come there is still Bytecoin?
Post by: Coingram on April 13, 2018, 09:08:02 AM
Bytecoin is one of the dark horses I think) Everyone wants it to be 1$ ) You can buy now for 100$ around 30K of Bytecoins (like i did) and hope to see the price over 1$