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Economy => Reputation => Topic started by: WJohn on June 27, 2016, 01:53:08 PM



Title: False Negative Trade Score
Post by: WJohn on June 27, 2016, 01:53:08 PM
Hi

I have just been given a false negative score on my profile by user "lind82". This is his own trade page:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=552363

How it happened:
I have posted a topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=552363) for buying Amazon Gift cards. lind82 private messaged me. I added him on Skype and the discussion took place as follows:
https://postimg.org/image/w0fkdutox/
https://postimg.org/image/yj19ejff5/
https://postimg.org/image/5hwx54uz5/
https://postimg.org/image/rid9lrdn5/
https://postimg.org/image/69zl4bz69/


After which the user left this negative trade score on my profile. Please note that I did not give him my real bitcoin address. He gave me a random address so just to tell him that its not hard to get a random address with high BTC balance, I gave him one of the internet as well. This is screenshot of my trade score with the FALSE Trade Score Highlighted:

https://postimg.org/image/4595sejt3/

Dear Administrators please remove this false trade score from my page. I have had just 3 trades here and have been scammed twice already. I really want to contribute to this forum and become its long term member. With this false trade score, I won't be looked upon as trustworthy even if it is from a scammer.


Title: Re: False Negative Trade Score
Post by: Jhanzo on June 27, 2016, 01:59:32 PM
I'm afraid trust is not moderated.  The admin never deletes negative trust (even if they're false) unless the user who gave it is spamming negative trust really, really, bad (this guy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=31023) have spammed theymos' trust page and they don't get deleted.).

That user is not and never will be trusted anyway.  Just ignore it.


Title: Re: False Negative Trade Score
Post by: n691309 on June 27, 2016, 02:05:32 PM
I'm afraid trust is not moderated.  The admin never deletes negative trust (even if they're false) unless the user who gave it is spamming negative trust really, really, bad (this guy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=31023) have spammed theymos' trust page and they don't get deleted.).

That user is not and never will be trusted anyway.  Just ignore it.

It is not moderated, many people have this issue because anybody can give feedback to others and moderators can not take additional action. OP just ignore it, seems that the user who left you negative feedback has trust of -2, so you just ignore it, don't look back :)


Title: Re: False Negative Trade Score
Post by: owlcatz on June 27, 2016, 03:53:48 PM
That guy is a complete moron scammer who can't read or speak English at all.
 
He tried to rip me off on AWS codes once, you can see where he calls me the scammer back... Just ignore the pathetic waste of life & wear his red trust proudly as I do.  ;D


Title: Re: False Negative Trade Score
Post by: WJohn on June 27, 2016, 05:59:40 PM
I'm afraid trust is not moderated.  The admin never deletes negative trust (even if they're false) unless the user who gave it is spamming negative trust really, really, bad (this guy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=31023) have spammed theymos' trust page and they don't get deleted.).

That user is not and never will be trusted anyway.  Just ignore it.

I'm afraid trust is not moderated.  The admin never deletes negative trust (even if they're false) unless the user who gave it is spamming negative trust really, really, bad (this guy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=31023) have spammed theymos' trust page and they don't get deleted.).

That user is not and never will be trusted anyway.  Just ignore it.

It is not moderated, many people have this issue because anybody can give feedback to others and moderators can not take additional action. OP just ignore it, seems that the user who left you negative feedback has trust of -2, so you just ignore it, don't look back :)

The red color just looks bad there on my profile  :-\
But anyway, if theymos can endure it, who the hell am I :P

That guy is a complete moron scammer who can't read or speak English at all.
 
He tried to rip me off on AWS codes once, you can see where he calls me the scammer back... Just ignore the pathetic waste of life & wear his red trust proudly as I do.  ;D

Lol. I think that's what I will have to do as well :D


Title: Re: False Negative Trade Score
Post by: Lauda on June 27, 2016, 06:04:16 PM
As far as DT is concerned (i.e. the default trust list that people have), everything is fine on your end. This is what I see:
https://i.imgur.com/XRzfNqS.png

Fake feedback is really unavoidable (aside from DT members) here.


Title: Re: False Negative Trade Score
Post by: WJohn on June 27, 2016, 07:36:53 PM
As far as DT is concerned (i.e. the default trust list that people have), everything is fine on your end. This is what I see:
https://i.imgur.com/XRzfNqS.png

Fake feedback is really unavoidable (aside from DT members) here.

The negative feedback shows when you click on "Trust" beneath my username and go to my trade page. There you click on Show Untrusted feedback.


Title: Re: False Negative Trade Score
Post by: Lauda on June 27, 2016, 08:16:35 PM
The negative feedback shows when you click on "Trust" beneath my username and go to my trade page. There you click on Show Untrusted feedback.
I'm very well aware of how the trust system works. I'm telling you that it does not matter and that it does not have an influence on your trust rating (as seen by most people) on default.


Title: Re: False Negative Trade Score
Post by: Vod on June 28, 2016, 02:46:13 AM
Please note that I did not give him my real bitcoin address. He gave me a random address so just to tell him that its not hard to get a random address with high BTC balance, I gave him one off the internet as well.

So you two were scamming each other.  Now you are complaining that he scammed you worse than you scammed him?



Title: Re: False Negative Trade Score
Post by: Ice Man on June 28, 2016, 02:48:19 AM
I'm afraid trust is not moderated.  The admin never deletes negative trust (even if they're false) unless the user who gave it is spamming negative trust really, really, bad (this guy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=31023) have spammed theymos' trust page and they don't get deleted.).

That user is not and never will be trusted anyway.  Just ignore it.

Oh my god I never ever seen trust like those. Theymos was playing with the dude back and forth. That's real funny shit. Thanks for sharing it.


Title: Re: False Negative Trade Score
Post by: WJohn on June 28, 2016, 07:05:56 AM
Please note that I did not give him my real bitcoin address. He gave me a random address so just to tell him that its not hard to get a random address with high BTC balance, I gave him one off the internet as well.

So you two were scamming each other.  Now you are complaining that he scammed you worse than you scammed him?



If you read the whole conversation that happened between us then you will understand better. HE WAS selling. Not me. So HE WAS in the position to scam me. I never asked him to send first but instead suggested to use escrow.


Title: Re: False Negative Trade Score
Post by: cpfreeplz on July 02, 2016, 03:40:16 PM
I'm afraid trust is not moderated.  The admin never deletes negative trust (even if they're false) unless the user who gave it is spamming negative trust really, really, bad (this guy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=31023) have spammed theymos' trust page and they don't get deleted.).

That user is not and never will be trusted anyway.  Just ignore it.

Clearly trust isn't moderated. If it's untrusted feedback then who cares? Someone could say 'I hate this guy' say that he risked 21M bitcoins and there's nothing you can do about it. The thing is, no one will care.

Haha, look at the top one here. This is Theymos' trust.

http://i64.tinypic.com/x3tzx2.png