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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: jtp1109 on June 27, 2016, 11:48:06 PM



Title: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: jtp1109 on June 27, 2016, 11:48:06 PM
I have 70 BTC i am trying to withdrawl from cloudbet - they are very unresponsive and say this is the e-mail I received - seems very fishy - i dont see how manual withdrawls are a big deal - i did not see this coming - first withdrawl with them

John Keisler (Cloudbet)
Jun 27, 23:31 UTC

Hi user,

Please note, due to issues with a third party service provider we are currently manually processing withdrawals. This has been causing some delays in processing times. However, we expect to return to automatic withdrawals very soon.

My apologies for the inconvenience. Your patience and understanding is greatly appreciated.

If there's anything else I can do for you, please let me know.


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: SyGambler on June 28, 2016, 12:10:30 AM
well usually bitcoin sites don't process such withdrawals fast , many stories like yours happened and all the sites said that they need to review your account to make sure that you didn't cheat , and the results were positive in most cases
but what's weird is that the support isn't saying that , they are saying like there is a general issue in withdrawing
anyway grats for the winning and good luck with getting your coins , it may take time


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: jtp1109 on June 28, 2016, 12:31:01 AM
its was simple betsoft games and playngo - its been 12 hours - can someone help here


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: janggernaut on June 28, 2016, 12:37:29 AM
its was simple betsoft games and playngo - its been 12 hours - can someone help here
I think just cloudbet admin who can help you, did you already tried to post in cloudbet's thread?
*Edit : i think maybe you should wait a little time again because he already said if that took some time to process it


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: Cyaren on June 28, 2016, 01:03:43 AM
I wouldn't call it a scam yet. You should probably give it a day or two. If it doesn't come by then, then I would start to worry. I would recommend to contact support again and take screenshots of everything incase they do infact scam you. That way people will take your side if you have enough proof that they did in fact scam you. 70 BTC is worth around $46,110 at the time of this post and that is a large amount of money. So just give it some time. Make sure to update us when something happens.


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: Dajackal on June 28, 2016, 01:04:42 AM
Most cloudmining is a scam. Just invest in ICO's instead and leave the mining to the Chinese and Russians


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: janggernaut on June 28, 2016, 01:23:54 AM
Most cloudmining is a scam. Just invest in ICO's instead and leave the mining to the Chinese and Russians
hmm, seems you are misunderstood here, OP said about "cloudbet.com" its a bitcoin casino, i guess you thought it "cloudminning" (actually when the first time im see cloudbet, i was thought it a minning site too, lol), so cloudbet isn't related with minning site.


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: jtp1109 on June 28, 2016, 01:32:35 AM
here is the screenshot

https://postimg.org/image/rasamkchz/

http://screenshot.co/#!/e958908ac4

ii think i've been scammed enough to know one when i see one - i will say 70% chance i will not get my coins


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: Dajackal on June 28, 2016, 01:39:16 AM
Most cloudmining is a scam. Just invest in ICO's instead and leave the mining to the Chinese and Russians
hmm, seems you are misunderstood here, OP said about "cloudbet.com" its a bitcoin casino, i guess you thought it "cloudminning" (actually when the first time im see cloudbet, i was thought it a minning site too, lol), so cloudbet isn't related with minning site.

My mistake. Im sorry op. I must have read it too fast and because of the cloudmining scam that just happened for 3m I assumed this was it.
I really need to read more thoroughly before posting next time.


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: NLNico on June 28, 2016, 02:28:11 AM
its was simple betsoft games and playngo - its been 12 hours - can someone help here
Ouch.. there have been multiple reports about issues with BetSoft games. See:
- https://www.casinolistings.com/news/2016/06/warning-avoid-all-betsoft-slots-and-casino-games
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1517648.0
- etc etc


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: jtp1109 on June 28, 2016, 03:26:31 AM
sorry -for some reason the screenshot before wasnt clear

here is my withdrawls pending therr

https://i.imgsafe.org/1ec844dfd4.jpg


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: rindo on June 28, 2016, 05:09:35 AM
sorry -for some reason the screenshot before wasnt clear

here is my withdrawls pending therr

https://i.imgsafe.org/1ec844dfd4.jpg

im so sorry to hear bad news from cloudbet,,yeah 70 BTC is a lot,hope cloudbet will be procces the paymant soon


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: Yutikas_11920 on June 28, 2016, 05:15:39 AM
I think this is reasonable, because you make a withdrawal. Usually these sites doing analysis against your account, is there anything that is mecurigakan or not. So you don't have to worry, I'm sure your funds will be paid after they stated that it is real funds you


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: Daffadile on June 28, 2016, 05:32:09 AM
well usually bitcoin sites don't process such withdrawals fast , many stories like yours happened and all the sites said that they need to review your account to make sure that you didn't cheat , and the results were positive in most cases
but what's weird is that the support isn't saying that , they are saying like there is a general issue in withdrawing
anyway grats for the winning and good luck with getting your coins , it may take time

Claiming cheating is ironic since you would assume the casino cheats players not the other way around. It is hard enough as it is to win then when you do they say no you cheating. Just an excuse not to pay.


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: Cyaren on June 28, 2016, 05:35:57 AM
I think this is reasonable, because you make a withdrawal. Usually these sites doing analysis against your account, is there anything that is mecurigakan or not. So you don't have to worry, I'm sure your funds will be paid after they stated that it is real funds you

Yeah that is true, when withdrawing a  large amount of money, they will often check for any fraud or any signs of illegitimatetly acquired bitcoins and they will send it once they are positive you have earned it legit.


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: Darwin02 on June 28, 2016, 05:38:31 AM
Most cloudmining is a scam. Just invest in ICO's instead and leave the mining to the Chinese and Russians
I'm laughing with this answer 😂😂😂  cloudbet is not cloud mining  site it's gambling .


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: Rubberduckie on June 28, 2016, 05:40:20 AM
daaam... Hope you get paid

even with the most trustworthy sites like 5 dimes I always cash out after a couple thousand so
in the even they claim im a pro or some BS I dont lose all my money. Keeping 70 btc in one site
is a bit risky.

Hope after they review account they get you your btc


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: Javi_Anibarro on June 28, 2016, 05:42:17 AM
the withdrawal was the same day you made the complaint? give it at least one or 2, hope you get it without any problems


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: drwtsn32 on June 28, 2016, 06:58:35 AM
Most cloudmining is a scam. Just invest in ICO's instead and leave the mining to the Chinese and Russians

Lol. You were too ahead of yourself there. Cloudbet is a casino and sports betting site.
You might want to know what the topic is about before you enter your comment.  :D


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: minime0105 on June 28, 2016, 07:06:51 AM
I have 70 BTC i am trying to withdrawl from cloudbet - they are very unresponsive and say this is the e-mail I received - seems very fishy - i dont see how manual withdrawls are a big deal - i did not see this coming - first withdrawl with them

John Keisler (Cloudbet)
Jun 27, 23:31 UTC

Hi user,

Please note, due to issues with a third party service provider we are currently manually processing withdrawals. This has been causing some delays in processing times. However, we expect to return to automatic withdrawals very soon.

My apologies for the inconvenience. Your patience and understanding is greatly appreciated.

If there's anything else I can do for you, please let me know.
If its that big, it really could take time, but 12 hrs is too much, try emailing their support again and post in their thread for all admins to be aware of this. i hope you get it, Wis you all the best.


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: Cloudbet on June 28, 2016, 07:52:50 AM
Hi guys,

First of all, we would like to congratulate jtp1109 on their 70 BTC win! This was a seriously significant single pay-out made from playing Pimped in our casino!

In regards to jtp1109’s withdrawal issue, our security systems were alerted to the fact that OP had created multiple Cloudbet accounts to use on our site. Creating multiple accounts is prohibited under our Terms and Conditions (https://www.cloudbet.com/en/terms_and_conditions), which subsequently caused a delay in the withdrawal process while our security team reviewed the player’s accounts.

Jtp1109’s withdrawal has been approved, and the player has received their 70 BTC winnings.

While we are on this topic, it has come to our attention that our online interactions with players and the bitcoin community could be improved, and we are now working hard to ensure that future conversations are more open and transparent, in order to alleviate any concerns that may be raised in these forums.

In the meantime, feel free to try your own luck in our casino, and we look forward to interacting with you all very soon.

Cheers,

Dan Kelly
Customer Engagement Team


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: drwtsn32 on June 28, 2016, 01:32:07 PM
There you go OP. You just got your good news.  Congratulations mate!  :)


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: praprata on June 28, 2016, 02:16:48 PM
That is to bad that is why do not talk or do something with large amount of Bitcoin because then the chance of getting scammed or hacked.
So be aware en if you have large amount of Bitcoin keep that for your self en do not make your self a target.


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: enhu on June 28, 2016, 02:34:17 PM
70 BTC is a huge amount.  they might as well just check whether a player is doing something else they didn't know.
Tracking how you won such amount would sure take time but yeah.. if you didn't do something like cheating/fraud so nothing to worry.


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: Shinpako09 on June 28, 2016, 03:14:19 PM
As expected like what im thinking it just take time to process because they will review it first. Its considerably a huge amount of btc.

Anyway, since issue has been solved this thread should be CLOSED now, right?. and editing the title as well. As others might get it wrong(could be bad for the site since it was proven wrong) and qouting the Cloudbet post in op that the issue has been solved.


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: hua_hui on June 28, 2016, 04:04:13 PM
70 BTC is a huge amount.  they might as well just check whether a player is doing something else they didn't know.
Tracking how you won such amount would sure take time but yeah.. if you didn't do something like cheating/fraud so nothing to worry.

Yup, actually i also love how they make sure they put in enough effort to check out each big win. In this way, it increase the security levels and make us more secure to gamble on their site. And 70btc is really not a small sum. They willing to pay out such amount is indeed worth praising.


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: marioantonini on June 28, 2016, 05:24:14 PM
the most incredibole when i see your stat, you have deposited 12 bitcoin and later 30 minutes have withdraw 70. Generally i hate the btc casinò when delay the withdraw, but for this amount and this low time can is reasonable.


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: jtp1109 on June 28, 2016, 05:38:34 PM
cloudbet came through and paid all coins

thank you


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: Bitcoin_Mafia_Me on June 28, 2016, 07:35:50 PM
cloudbet came through and paid all coins

thank you

Congratulations :) Enjoy your BTC!


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: dantanas on June 28, 2016, 07:37:19 PM
I think they are taking long, reviewing your bets because of the amount.


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: TyfrTR on June 28, 2016, 09:22:40 PM
If they paid your bitcoins, then we should change this topic name. It looks like CloudBet is a scammer. I'm not making their promotion but any user may understand that cloudbet is a real scammer. By the way, congrats for your BTC and enjoy your profit.


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC (Cloud Bet Paid 70 Btc )
Post by: lolxxxx on June 28, 2016, 09:26:36 PM
Congratulations OP finally you received your winning .

@cloudbet you should post the Transaction id so everyone the OP is paid , Its good for reference.


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: Jasad on June 28, 2016, 09:42:22 PM
Congrats on your winnings, 70 BTC wow, that's like $45,000  :o   No wonder CloudBet took their time to pay you off.
you give unexpected response for some people ;D but logically you are right,if OP have scammed 70 btc by cloudbet,its mean he won first,before he cant witdraw his 70BTC he won that big amount,a massive trouble,you won and can't witdraw it,time to avoid cloudbet huh..


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: ingiltere on June 28, 2016, 09:55:06 PM
In regards to jtp1109’s withdrawal issue, our security systems were alerted to the fact that OP had created multiple Cloudbet accounts to use on our site. Creating multiple accounts is prohibited under our Terms and Conditions (https://www.cloudbet.com/en/terms_and_conditions), which subsequently caused a delay in the withdrawal process while our security team reviewed the player’s accounts.

Congrats OP and let us know if you really received your payment. I need to ask a question to Cloudbet when I see them.
Why is it prohibited to have multiple accounts in your site? Aren't your games provably fair? What scares you?


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: Shinpako09 on June 28, 2016, 10:15:44 PM
In regards to jtp1109’s withdrawal issue, our security systems were alerted to the fact that OP had created multiple Cloudbet accounts to use on our site. Creating multiple accounts is prohibited under our Terms and Conditions (https://www.cloudbet.com/en/terms_and_conditions), which subsequently caused a delay in the withdrawal process while our security team reviewed the player’s accounts.

Congrats OP and let us know if you really received your payment. I need to ask a question to Cloudbet when I see them.
Why is it prohibited to have multiple accounts in your site? Aren't your games provably fair? What scares you?
he said it earlier before you make a post in the same page that he got the 70btc.
cloudbet came through and paid all coins

thank you

again op kindly change the thread title just like what ive said in my previous post
As expected like what im thinking it just take time to process because they will review it first. Its considerably a huge amount of btc.

Anyway, since issue has been solved this thread should be CLOSED now, right?. and editing the title as well. As others might get it wrong(could be bad for the site since it was proven wrong) and qouting the Cloudbet post in op that the issue has been solved.
It wont consume time to changed and to be fair with the site and closed this thread after that.


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: Cloudbet on June 29, 2016, 09:04:54 AM
Hey guys,

We're glad this issue has now been sorted, but in the meantime we'd like to take a few moments to answer some questions before OP closes the thread.

@cloudbet you should post the Transaction id so everyone the OP is paid , Its good for reference.

Hey, lolxxxx! We'd usually love to post the transaction ID as proof, but for the sake of privacy we'll let jtp1109 decide whether he wants to make it public or not.

Congrats OP and let us know if you really received your payment. I need to ask a question to Cloudbet when I see them.
Why is it prohibited to have multiple accounts in your site? Aren't your games provably fair? What scares you?

Hey, ingiltere! Great questions, and thanks for asking.

1. We prohibit multiple accounts for a number of reasons, but namely it is to help prevent fraud, money laundering and general skullduggery.

2. When it comes to our casino, we are very strict about the games we provide to our users. We only partner with certified, industry-compliant vendors, so we can guarantee all our games are tested and fair.

3. To be honest, we're a little scared of spiders, but isn't everyone?

We hope this helps clear up any additional questions that arose from this post, and we look forward to chatting with you all soon!

Cheers!

Dan Kelly
Cloudbet Customer Engagement Team


Title: Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC
Post by: minime0105 on June 29, 2016, 09:41:18 AM
Congrats OP, enjoy that 70 btc winnings. and nicely done cloudbet. Cheers to all of you..