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Title: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: dirtycat on March 14, 2013, 09:37:53 AM
What really is the artificial watermelon flavor we are led to believe is watermelon?

Lets say you were about to taste an artificial watermelon flavored product but were never told what flavor it is and have never tasted said flavor.. what would it taste like?

I have tasted many a watermelon flavored consumables in my younger days and I must say not any one of them have ever tasted like any real watermelon.  But I was repeatedly told it was watermelon and I was shown wrappers with pretty watermelons on it so I just accepted it and went about my way naively.  I guess this could go well with many other flavors but watermelon seems to be the most obvious one for me.


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: Benson Samuel on March 14, 2013, 09:43:13 AM
Let me try to answer this.

If you cut a slice of watermelon and keep it outside a fridge for a few hours, it develops a distinct taste.

I assume that this is what is used when making watermelon confectioneries and once the sugar is added and hard boiling is over, the taste alters slightly.


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: dirtycat on March 14, 2013, 09:56:25 AM
Let me try to answer this.

If you cut a slice of watermelon and keep it outside a fridge for a few hours, it develops a distinct taste.

I assume that this is what is used when making watermelon confectioneries and once the sugar is added and hard boiling is over, the taste alters slightly.


you sir are clearly part of the artificial watermelon flavor conspiracy  :P


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: Benson Samuel on March 14, 2013, 09:57:16 AM
Let me try to answer this.

If you cut a slice of watermelon and keep it outside a fridge for a few hours, it develops a distinct taste.

I assume that this is what is used when making watermelon confectioneries and once the sugar is added and hard boiling is over, the taste alters slightly.


you sir are clearly part of the artificial watermelon flavor conspiracy  :P

That is not true. I request you to retract your vicious accusation! :P


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: greyhawk on March 14, 2013, 10:34:33 AM
What really is the artificial watermelon flavor we are led to believe is watermelon?

 3,4-dihydro-2H-1-benzoxepin-3-one


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: Benson Samuel on March 14, 2013, 10:39:44 AM
What really is the artificial watermelon flavor we are led to believe is watermelon?

 3,4-dihydro-2H-1-benzoxepin-3-one

http://www.chemicalbook.com/ChemicalProductProperty_EN_CB5111761.htm


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: dirtycat on March 14, 2013, 10:43:37 AM
artificial watermelon flavor is people!!!!!


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: Benson Samuel on March 14, 2013, 10:44:33 AM
with skin?


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: greyhawk on March 14, 2013, 11:00:55 AM

http://www.chemicalbook.com/ChemicalProductProperty_EN_CB5111761.htm


Good god, why would you do that.  :-\


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: dirtycat on March 14, 2013, 11:01:13 AM
with skin?

soylent green reference come on stay with me here

What really is the artificial watermelon flavor we are led to believe is watermelon?

 3,4-dihydro-2H-1-benzoxepin-3-one

exactly! it gives a watermelon like odor and taste.. BUT it doesn't smell or taste like watermelon.. now we are back to square one.  What flavor is it?


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: Benson Samuel on March 14, 2013, 11:02:34 AM
with skin?

soylent green reference come on stay with me here

What really is the artificial watermelon flavor we are led to believe is watermelon?

 3,4-dihydro-2H-1-benzoxepin-3-one

exactly! it gives a watermelon like odor and taste.. BUT it doesn't smell or taste like watermelon.. now we are back to square one.  What flavor is it?

people flavor?


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: dirtycat on March 14, 2013, 11:03:39 AM
with skin?

soylent green reference come on stay with me here

What really is the artificial watermelon flavor we are led to believe is watermelon?

 3,4-dihydro-2H-1-benzoxepin-3-one

exactly! it gives a watermelon like odor and taste.. BUT it doesn't smell or taste like watermelon.. now we are back to square one.  What flavor is it?

people flavor?

no idea I haven't eaten people.. have you?  plus I have yet to smell a human that smells like 3,4-dihydro-2H-1-benzoxepin-3-one


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: Benson Samuel on March 14, 2013, 11:04:39 AM
with skin?

soylent green reference come on stay with me here

What really is the artificial watermelon flavor we are led to believe is watermelon?

 3,4-dihydro-2H-1-benzoxepin-3-one

exactly! it gives a watermelon like odor and taste.. BUT it doesn't smell or taste like watermelon.. now we are back to square one.  What flavor is it?

people flavor?

no idea I haven't eaten people.. have you?  plus I have yet to smell a human that smells like 3,4-dihydro-2H-1-benzoxepin-3-one

lol, no people eating done yet!


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: greyhawk on March 14, 2013, 11:14:42 AM
with skin?

soylent green reference come on stay with me here

What really is the artificial watermelon flavor we are led to believe is watermelon?

 3,4-dihydro-2H-1-benzoxepin-3-one

exactly! it gives a watermelon like odor and taste.. BUT it doesn't smell or taste like watermelon.. now we are back to square one.  What flavor is it?

Interesting factoid: Watermelon taste and odor varies wildly depending on earth/sun/growth time, etc. In Middle to Northern Europe it's impossible to get a watermelon that tastes like anything much at all. In Greece you have watermelon that taste like highly sugared sun water. In Israel watermelon tastes intensely very much like the artificial flavor.

Interesting factoid 2: In Japan they salt their watermelon. :o


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: Sukrim on March 14, 2013, 11:35:16 AM
Lets say you were about to taste an artificial watermelon flavored product but were never told what flavor it is and have never tasted said flavor.. what would it taste like?

What if I told you...

...water melons are actually orange on the outside and blue on the inside, but since everyone else calls these colours "green" and "red" you think they are green and red?


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: vite on March 14, 2013, 12:09:36 PM
I like the watermelon flavored gatorade and it does not taste like watermelonwhich I dislike.


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on March 14, 2013, 05:15:33 PM
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3,4-dihydro-2H-1-benzoxepin-3-one

Fired up the 3D printer!

http://cdn.cakecentral.com/6/60/900x900px-LL-604e3f04_modulescopperminealbumsuserpics482623Watermelon.jpeg


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: tkbx on March 14, 2013, 05:25:00 PM
I've always noticed that. It's just a "fruity" flavor created, it tastes nothing like watermelon.


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: MysteryMiner on March 15, 2013, 12:09:59 AM
Only real tasty watermelons come from Astrakhan near Caspian Sea. All other are somewhat tasteless and taste more like water or cucumber.

The question itself if from The Matrix. Chicken taste.


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: whitenight639 on March 15, 2013, 02:31:51 AM
Did you know the compounds that give raspberries there raspberry taste are also present in a lot of other fruit flavours, the artificially created raspberry flavour is important in the flavouring industry for that reason.
yeh I read it somewhere im not providing links.


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: MysteryMiner on March 15, 2013, 03:40:54 AM
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Did you know the compounds that give raspberries there raspberry taste are also present in a lot of other fruit flavours, the artificially created raspberry flavour is important in the flavouring industry for that reason.
Probably they were called esters. Various products of organic oil and acid reaction. They all have fruit and other tasty smells. In chemistry lessons I did not get past nitroglycerin. I tested few grams of nitroglycerin in chemistry lab, blew up bookshelf and got kicked out of chemistry lab for remainder of semester. So I never got much on organic chemistry.


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: dirtycat on March 15, 2013, 08:56:04 PM
I guess I'm just trying to find out why we are forced to accept that artificial watermelon flavor is what watermelon tastes like.

Or perhaps I am wrong and maybe watermelon flavoring is actually what watermelons used to taste like and because of the all the sprays and pesticides and human intervention throughout the years has caused watermelons to taste nothing like the artificial flavor.



Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: whitenight639 on March 15, 2013, 09:01:36 PM
I guess I'm just trying to find out why we are forced to accept that artificial watermelon flavor is what watermelon tastes like.

Or perhaps I am wrong and maybe watermelon flavoring is actually what watermelons used to taste like and because of the all the sprays and pesticides and human intervention throughout the years has caused watermelons to taste nothing like the artificial flavor.




I dunno about watermellons but I know all the supermarket bought Tomatoes, onions and peppers are too big and shiney and taste nothing like they used to, so if thats happened to the taste over the years imagine whats happened to the vitamin and mineral content of these fruits and veg?

It's a shame that people buy food with there eyes and not there tastebuds anymore, but hey almost 7 billion people on the planet that is running out of oil, what can you do?

Did you know it takes 4x as much oil to produce 1x the amount of artificial fertillizer?


Title: Re: Watermelon flavor?
Post by: MysteryMiner on March 15, 2013, 10:21:25 PM
I have never tasted artificial watermelon taste sweets and bubble gums that taste like real, naturally grown high quality watermelon. I think this means that the artificial flavors are not good at the job.